British Juniors?

[robertg06]

My friend Myles Golding has a rating of 6.1 and he gets to miss school and stuff. God it's snowing and I have to play for my club soon :(

[Tofi]

theres this guy in the year above me and he gets to miss afew days off school to do tennis. i heared that he might play for britain even though he isnt in the top 10 in the country. Also for GCSE i might pick GCSE P.E. depends on afew other factors.

[SaunderS]

theres this guy in the year above me and he gets to miss afew days off school to do tennis. i heared that he might play for britain even though he isnt in the top 10 in the country. Also for GCSE i might pick GCSE P.E. depends on afew other factors.

I was going to do GCSE P.E but tennis is the only thing i'm good at, and my school doesnt take tennis seriously.

[SaunderS]

My friend Myles Golding has a rating of 6.1 and he gets to miss school and stuff. God it's snowing and I have to play for my club soon :(

Will they not wipe the snow off the courts

[robertg06]

GCSE PE is like a certain A* for me if I take it....I do football, tennis, badminton, swimming, basketball, table tennis, fitness....And I would only have to do 4. Plus, I heard that the theory is really easy and seeing as I'm like a boffin it should be easy for me :)

[robertg06]

Will they not wipe the snow off the courts

Well, it's raining now and most of the snow has melted. But the courts at Harrow have like little holes in them so rain drains through pretty quickly. It might be cancelled, but I'm still gonna head down for a knock.

[Tofi]

I was going to do GCSE P.E but tennis is the only thing i'm good at, and my school doesnt take tennis seriously.

My school take tennis seriousley. for the 2 sports that i'm good at i'd pick tennis and swimmimng and 2 thats i need to improve on will be football and i dont know for the second one. i'm not a great footy player....

[SaunderS]

GCSE PE is like a certain A* for me if I take it....I do football, tennis, badminton, swimming, basketball, table tennis, fitness....And I would only have to do 4. Plus, I heard that the theory is really easy and seeing as I'm like a boffin it should be easy for me :)

Yeah evryone in my year has like A* in P.E

[robertg06]

My school did take tennis real seriously, but then the Tennis Coach snapped his Achilles Tendent and now he can never play again...

[Tofi]

yeah BTEC's in sport are easier. they can't be failed its impossible to fail a BTEC sport. the only way to fail it is if you dont hand in any work. also 60% of the work you do in GCSE P.E. is practicle and 40% is a 2 hour exam(well thats what i heared). i might take that and creative media.

[SaunderS]

tournament today! thank god its indoors!

[Tofi]

lucky.... i still am waiting for my perents to buy me my equipment and for me to make enough money to buy the rest of my equipment.

[BestLefty UK]

Well, it's raining now and most of the snow has melted. But the courts at Harrow have like little holes in them so rain drains through pretty quickly. It might be cancelled, but I'm still gonna head down for a knock.

Do your courts have that little chess pattern with rectangle shaped holes? I remember playing some club league match against harrow on like green and red courts with tiny holes in them

EDIT: Are your courts right next to a large field and a school?

[Seblad2k8]

not sure but his name is Tommy Bennett

yea he was in my tournament yesterday lol :)

he isn't amazing at all he is a 9.1 and he was losing in the final to a 8.2 before the 8.2 got injured and he won but if he is only a 9.1 and he is getting coached 5 hours a day then he is not amazing not at all also if it was indoor and i was playing half decent i reckon i could beat him quite easily :)

aw wait theirs two bennett's who pulled out of school and play alot of tennis lol sorry did you mean the 6.1 lad ?

[SaunderS]

yea he was in my tournament yesterday lol :)

he isn't amazing at all he is a 9.1 and he was losing in the final to a 8.2 before the 8.2 got injured and he won but if he is only a 9.1 and he is getting coached 5 hours a day then he is not amazing not at all also if it was indoor and i was playing half decent i reckon i could beat him quite easily :)

aw wait theirs two bennett's who pulled out of school and play alot of tennis lol sorry did you mean the 6.1 lad ?

He is 6.1. a 9.1 would be pulled out of school to play tennis.
I know its sad but i was gonna ask if this is the guy

http://i35.tinypic.com/n3n7o7.jpg

[westy]

You don't have to be brilliant to miss some school for tennis. Both my brother and i used to miss some school. My bro missed an hour each day! he has stopped now though, as he is in his gcse years. Education is more important that tennis.

Yeh i got a* at GCSE PE. I got so many points out of practical and coursework that i needed to write my name on the exam to get a B! Don't consider it a doss lesson, though, or you wont get anything. put the work in and you will be rewarded.

[Tofi]

yeah i was told so by the P.E. teachers in a talk about it.....

[Seblad2k8]

He is 6.1. a 9.1 would be pulled out of school to play tennis.
I know its sad but i was gonna ask if this is the guy

http://i35.tinypic.com/n3n7o7.jpg

well the lad im on about has 5 hours of tennis every day in coaching from the former brazilian number 1 lol but he is only a 9.1 lol he should be something like a 7.2 or something but he isn't that good at all then again he has only been getting coached by brazil's former womens number 1 for a few months.

[Tofi]

yeah i wouldnt ask to be coached by a brazilian as they suck at tennis one of the best football teams in the world but one of the worst tennis players in the world

[Seblad2k8]

lol a former Brazilian number 1!!!! that probally top hundred and that sucks lol?

[Alexio92]

yeah i wouldnt ask to be coached by a brazilian as they suck at tennis one of the best football teams in the world but one of the worst tennis players in the world

That is a very ignorant view that they have the worst tennis players in the world...

Ever heard of Guga Kuerten?

[BestLefty UK]

yeah i wouldnt ask to be coached by a brazilian as they suck at tennis one of the best football teams in the world but one of the worst tennis players in the world

You realise your comparing brazilian tennis to a team that has won 5 world cups and is arguably the best national football team ever. Of course they're gonna suck compared to that but to me, producing one of the best clay-courters ever isn't too shabby.

[Tofi]

yeah true not too shabby but still they have no good tennis players atm so i dont see the point of having a former brazilian number 1 who was probabley ranked 100th for afew years maybe reached 80th but not further

[Alexio92]

yeah true not too shabby but still they have no good tennis players atm so i dont see the point of having a former brazilian number 1 who was probabley ranked 100th for afew years maybe reached 80th but not further

Do you realise how good they have to be to get that high :confused:

+ Good playing ability doesnt = good coach

[BestLefty UK]

yeah true not too shabby but still they have no good tennis players atm so i dont see the point of having a former brazilian number 1 who was probabley ranked 100th for afew years maybe reached 80th but not further

You obviously have no respect for the amount of work those "crappy" players put in to get into they top 100.

[BestLefty UK]

First of all I get the impression that you just started tennis & your in about year 9/10 which means unless your either a ridiculously fast learner or are sampras child then you probably won't go pro (unless you play until your like 25+) & second of all 1012007 that was a legend comment

[1012007]

Tofi - if you think being 80th in the world is ****, then good luck getting higher than that. Also, as 1 guy is from brazil you think he is **** at tennis. UK are **** at tennis, but murray isnt

[Alexio92]

im 13 and i started tennis when i was 11. also i could make it pro why not why are you all against me???? all i said was that the brazilians arent briliant tennis players and bearly have a great tennis history you could correct me but why the heck do you have to bloody insult me..... i'm a human i have feelings...... im not egoistic but still anyone could make it pro you just have to wait and play loads of tennis tournys.

and you have to train 6 hours a day 250 days a year on drilling, matchplay, fitness, and other stuff.

Not to mention the mental drain it has on you trying to make it on tour after all of that.

[1012007]

im 13 and i started tennis when i was 11. also i could make it pro why not why are you all against me???? all i said was that the brazilians arent briliant tennis players and bearly have a great tennis history you could correct me but why the heck do you have to bloody insult me..... i'm a human i have feelings...... im not egoistic but still anyone could make it pro you just have to wait and play loads of tennis tournys.

Definitely, if you play 50 tennis tournys, you are certain to become pro.

[Tofi]

Definitely, if you play 50 tennis tournys, you are certain to become pro.

not really you need to play loads and get international not 50 like lets say 100 - 150 and play good enough to get into like semis or quater finals to get good points to get into top ten in the uk then go international then start from there...... Which brazillian was 80th in the world????

[1012007]

1st of all you would need a very very good coach

Everything else would follow that

[Tofi]

i agree with you on that point.

[westy]

Tofi, I don't want to ruin your dreams, but let's be realistic, the chances of you going pro are slim. Sorry to bring this up but you made some ridiculous comments about your racket being the reason you lose matches etc. My brother is 14 and a 6.2, he is county champion for 14's and 16's and played 14's Wimbledon in the summer. Does he have a chance at going pro? No.

[Seblad2k8]

not really but depends who because that kid gets 5 hours training a day and he sucks so there you have it. I do get it but its true theres this guy whos 25th in britain who has played 77 tournys so there you have it.

correction i didn't say he sucks i said he isnt that good for someone who is getting trained that much he is still a good player

(not getting involved in this tho)

[Tofi]

wow who's your bro??? also good point. why did we start the argument anyway everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I agree west...

[Seblad2k8]

Tofi, I don't want to ruin your dreams, but let's be realistic, the chances of you going pro are slim. Sorry to bring this up but you made some ridiculous comments about your racket being the reason you lose matches etc. My brother is 14 and a 6.2, he is county champion for 14's and 16's and played 14's Wimbledon in the summer. Does he have a chance at going pro? No.

well their is a chance of going pro but not to a amazingly high level maybe like futures and so on

EDIT: then again he good suddenly get alot better in a short space of time no one really ever knows.

[westy]

Maybe, But if your not hitting the top 150 your not making ends meet financially. So playing futures your whole life doesn't make any sense.

Tofi, I'd rather not name names, but i'm sure Alexio92 will back me up about my brother.

[Tofi]

kk I understand....

[Seblad2k8]

westy your brother is a 7.1

although its pretty obvious he should be a 6.2 or even 6.1

[BestLefty UK]

Tofi, I don't want to ruin your dreams, but let's be realistic, the chances of you going pro are slim. Sorry to bring this up but you made some ridiculous comments about your racket being the reason you lose matches etc. My brother is 14 and a 6.2, he is county champion for 14's and 16's and played 14's Wimbledon in the summer. Does he have a chance at going pro? No.

I wouldn't entirely agree with that. If your brother put everything he had into tennis, had the backing of the lta & got a bit lucky he could go pro. Alternatively he could leave England now and attend an academy elsewhere and he would have a much higher chance of going pro. Here's a story to explain my opinion on this subject: My brother attended Sanchez-casal for quite a long time and he saw a young 13 year old kid (he was from a small country and his father was part of royalty) that played in the ITF/ATP group! Whereas if this kid was playing in England he wouldn't be half the player he is now; It's just how it is

[Tofi]

england should really start building acadamies and things because we used to the best at tennis and now we aren't the lta look like they have enough money to build a few acadamies.

[westy]

westy your brother is a 7.1

although its pretty obvious he should be a 6.2 or even 6.1

Do I know you? Yeh but we are appealing he go up, he had like a million wins and beat a 5.2 and 2 6.1's? For the mean time i'm calling him a 6.2! lol

[BestLefty UK]

Do I know you? Yeh but we are appealing he go up, he had like a million wins and beat a 5.2 and 2 6.1's? For the mean time i'm calling him a 6.2! lol

Well he rightfully deserves the title lol

[westy]

I wouldn't entirely agree with that. If your brother put everything he had into tennis, had the backing of the lta & got a bit lucky he could go pro. Alternatively he could leave England now and attend an academy elsewhere and he would have a much higher chance of going pro. Here's a story to explain my opinion on this subject: My brother attended Sanchez-casal for quite a long time and he saw a young 13 year old kid (he was from a small country and his father was part of royalty) that played in the ITF/ATP group! Whereas if this kid was playing in England he wouldn't be half the player he is now; It's just how it is

I can see your point. Right now, though its more important to be educated and get some GCSE's. Tennis is a hobby, it's great fun and him and I have both made some fantastic friends and have some great memories. That's what tennis is, not really a career option.

[Tofi]

yeah i better start my home work and start thinking about what to pick for GCSE... Man its so hard as we only get to pick 2 things out of 10 and theres loads of things i want to do.

[mozzer]

Definately pick GCSE PE, great fun compared to core PE which is more people just messing around. However, im in the group with all the chavs :|

[Seblad2k8]

Do I know you? Yeh but we are appealing he go up, he had like a million wins and beat a 5.2 and 2 6.1's? For the mean time i'm calling him a 6.2! lol

no i looked up the winner of the Devon county closed to see if you were telling the truth lol dont know why but yea he definatly should go up do you know how long they take to get back to you and if they always get back to you?

[westy]

I have no idea! Hopefully he will have a good winter and go up again anyway!

[SaunderS]

My first matchplays yesterday. Played 2 Won 2!!:):):)Sorry i didnt tell you yesterday, only got in late. I had to wait an hour btween my games! To be fair, my opponents were smaller than i was, but it was the first ever time I had played on those courts. You think there all gonna be the same but there not!
Anyway I was talking to the organiser and he said that you need 8 wins to get into the 9's. But how many to get to 10.1. Already got 2 in the bag. 6 more to go!

[1012007]

4 to get to 10.1, then another 4 to get to 9.2. After that, you need 7 wins and a 60% winning ratio to move to 9.1 and so on

[Tofi]

thanks for the info

[Tofi]

hey saunders when did you join the lta and when did you get your package because i havent got mine yet and this is my 8th week of joining the lta also where did you get the tennis n catalogue and the wilson catalogue.

[SaunderS]

hey saunders when did you join the lta and when did you get your package because i havent got mine yet and this is my 8th week of joining the lta also where did you get the tennis n catalogue and the wilson catalogue.

I've been part of the LTA for nearly a year. They sent me a package straight away. As for the other catalogues, i got them off there own website.

[SaunderS]

Tofi, i know ive asked this before but when are you getting your equipment??

[lk_keen]

Tofi = All the gear , no idea

[SaunderS]

The thing is though, he hasn't got the gear.
Whats your rating lk keen?

[Tofi]

but im getting it just before christmas holidays.

[lk_keen]

I dont have a rating im from la manga but have done a te in the uk and beat a 7.1

[Tofi]

whats a te?????

[SaunderS]

I dont have a rating im from la manga but have done a te in the uk and beat a 7.1

Oh right...

[lk_keen]

tennis europe

[SaunderS]

7.1 is good, but i would of thought players competing in Europe world be atleast 5.2

[Alexio92]

I dont have a rating im from la manga but have done a te in the uk and beat a 7.1

I have been to la manga club quite a few times over the last few years. How much do you play?

[BestLefty UK]

7.1 is good, but i would of thought players competing in Europe world be atleast 5.2

Mate don't get it twisted... UK's tennis standard is not that bad. Really just cuz someone plays tennis in Spain doesn't mean they are sick at tennis. I've played in Spain and I admit their standards are probably higher than the UK's & that I saw some brilliant players but you must remember we have some brilliant players too.

[SaunderS]

I'm not saying we don't have good players, but not anybody can play european tournaments.

[mozzer]

Of course, its hard for American's to travel to Europe all the time for matches LOL!!!
Sarcasm

[SaunderS]

ok then:???::???:

[Tofi]

hey guys.... i have an occasional day tomorow. i might go to my club and practise there....depends on afew things though

[SaunderS]

hey guys.... i have an occasional day tomorow. i might go to my club and practise there....depends on afew things though

Lucky, ive had GCSE mocks all week. got a four-hour art mock tomorrow:???:

[Tofi]

wow you really need to have a break.

[SaunderS]

I know. BTW you said you might go practice, but i depends on things. what does it depend on?

[Tofi]

it depends on if me and my friends plan on something and do that instead.also if my perents will let me.

[SaunderS]

How far is your club away from you. (don't take it the wrong way)

[Tofi]

its around a 20-30 min walk and 5-7 min drive.

[SaunderS]

its around a 20-30 min walk and 5-7 min drive.

Just bike it then. i would.

[SaunderS]

going for my sessions soon. can't wait.

[Tofi]

i just came back from my session..... i sustained and injury earlier this week so i dsidnt play great but its still training.

[robertg06]

Sorry about not being around, internet has been crazy. I played today and I played the tennis of my life.

[Tofi]

good how was your training session???

[robertg06]

Wasn't a training session, it was a U16 Match against another club, it was cold but I was really playing well.

[Tofi]

great. i'm getting better every week might have a slight injury but still. so did you win???

[robertg06]

No, I didn't lol. I played a kid who would absolutely thrash me on any normal day. He was just truly amazing. He could hit winners from anywhere on the court. But today, I was just as good :)

[Tofi]

wow is that kid in the lta??? if so where does he play??

[robertg06]

I'm not actually sure about his details, I'm planning to find out though.

[BestLefty UK]

No, I didn't lol. I played a kid who would absolutely thrash me on any normal day. He was just truly amazing. He could hit winners from anywhere on the court. But today, I was just as good :)

What club was it?

[robertg06]

Kenton Tennis Club

[SaunderS]

i did some amazing shots at my session today aswell. Shame i didn't do as good shots in my matches last week. oh well still won them:)

[robertg06]

Oh btw people, I phoned up dunlop, they're not accepting any more people until around the january mark.

[SaunderS]

Oh btw people, I phoned up dunlop, they're not accepting any more people until around the january mark.

Probably coz its thr new season, and the new rackets etc

[Tofi]

yeah aparently 4d's are sooo good. they have verry good pj i must add they also look sick only problem is they dont have a ag 4d 300 and 100 aparently from what i heard

[SaunderS]

TBH, i dont really want a sponsorship. I'm happy buying rackets that i think are better. But if you like dunlop, getting a package with a 4D would be great.

[Tofi]

true i'd only get sponsored if i become pro(which most probably wont happen) or around when 16 years old because thats when racket companies start looking at juniors. this is because then you could pick what matierials and tech and head size and wieght you want etc like vantage. vantage are got but sometimes i think they should put different tech in thier make a racket part.

[mozzer]

I think vantage are 100% graphite (or something like), way better than all the fake technology.

[Tofi]

i think all the tech is copied aero gel and micro gel and karophit black bit obviouse they are all copied but have diffrent names... they arent all fake they are real but mostly copied

[SaunderS]

I think vantage are 100% graphite (or something like), way better than all the fake technology.

I bet your thinking of babolats cortex system there. But i think it actually works.

[Alexio92]

I bet your thinking of babolats cortex system there. But i think it actually works.

Have you checked pictures of that guy who cut it in half at the cortex? Nothing there.

I really cant believe you could think it actually works, most technology is fake apart from maybe the prince o3 but even they make up a load of crap about it.

[Tofi]

cortex works and i know as i tried the APDC before. [K]arophite is aparently graphite but i dont see why 20% of all the [K] rackets composition have kevlar in. not like your gonna get shot on court and you use your kevlar coated racket to deflect bullets. also the new EXO3 prince line is most probabley not effective. maybe i will try the new EXO3 POG when i go to the USA next year and if it works i'll buy it. obviously there wont be nothing in the cortex system its a rubber thing thats on the out side of the racket

[Alexio92]

cortex works and i know as i tried the APDC before. [K]arophite is aparently graphite but i dont see why 20% of all the [K] rackets composition have kevlar in. not like your gonna get shot on court and you use your kevlar coated racket to deflect bullets. also the new EXO3 prince line is most probabley not effective. maybe i will try it when i go to the USA next year and if it works i'll buy it.

No offence but :confused:

You think the cortex works because youve tried it but you dont believe that big holes in the grommets would not. Its pretty obvious that having holes in the frame of the racquet would make it more aerodynamic and allow the strings to move more where as a piece of plastic around the throat will work? Why not just put an elastic band around the throat?

[Tofi]

no i didnt say they dont work... look at the EXO3 tech vid.... graphite gromets to channel the "energy" into your shots..... doesnt seem that real but i already own an o3 well semi o3 it has holes at 3 and 6 o'clock

[SaunderS]

Have you checked pictures of that guy who cut it in half at the cortex? Nothing there.

I really cant believe you could think it actually works, most technology is fake apart from maybe the prince o3 but even they make up a load of crap about it.
Yeah i have. He didnt prove much though as he cut above it, so you couldnt see. It doesnt do much itself, but it separates the racket into two parts, so the vibrations are absorbed by the top part only.

[mozzer]

cortex works and i know as i tried the APDC before. [K]arophite is aparently graphite but i dont see why 20% of all the [K] rackets composition have kevlar in. not like your gonna get shot on court and you use your kevlar coated racket to deflect bullets. also the new EXO3 prince line is most probabley not effective. maybe i will try the new EXO3 POG when i go to the USA next year and if it works i'll buy it. obviously there wont be nothing in the cortex system its a rubber thing thats on the out side of the racket
Here you say that none of them work, so whats the point in having different ones? Also, vantage would have to create their own technology because of copyright and patent laws ETC...

[Alexio92]

Here you say that none of them work, so whats the point in having different ones? Also, vantage would have to create their own technology because of copyright and patent laws ETC...
Marketing is the answer.

[Tofi]

i might make my own racket as a GCSE project. would be pretty cool..... i need to think of an idea. i've got to think about it though..... so hard. i'll draw some blue prints and stuff.

[robertg06]

Vantage are really cool. I wanna get a deal with them for Vantage Team, now that would be insanely cool. They have a 4D 300, and a 300 tour. The 300 Tour looks really good specwise and pj wise, might try demo it if I get a chance. Interestingly, ********** has the 4D Super-Lite but nothing else as of yet. I'll ask the owner's son when they're getting the rest in.

[SaunderS]

i might make my own racket as a GCSE project. would be pretty cool..... i need to think of an idea. i've got to think about it though..... so hard. i'll draw some blue prints and stuff.

Make your own racket? are you serious? What subjct is that? It'll cost loads to make one. 1000+.

[Tofi]

not really some graphite and a saw and stuff. might even use the laser cutter aswell. it wont. i think you can make your own racket in reasorceful materials.

[SaunderS]

how much are you willing to spend? you will need extremely special machines to make a tennis racket. what subject is this for?

[Tofi]

i just said the subject is resourceful materials. it wont take that much i dont think its not like 100 rackets its ony 1 racket. and i dont need special equipment to make a racket. a slb of graphite and some metel and stuff isnt expensive plus the school pays for the materials. they msot probabley do have graphite. i'll ask about it in my next tech lesson.

[SaunderS]

i just said the subject is resourceful materials. it wont take that much i dont think its not like 100 rackets its ony 1 racket. and i dont need special equipment to make a racket. a slb of graphite and some metel and stuff isnt expensive plus the school pays for the materials. they msot probabley do have graphite. i'll ask about it in my next tech lesson.

Calm down. I think you need to focus more in your English lessons...
And yes you really do need special machines to make a tennis racket. Think about how a racket is structured, the throat etc. you will need wood aswell. How can you make holes in the plastic without special machinery. And no you cannot just drill. Do some research on how a racket is made.

[Tofi]

yeah a drill.... my school has loads of drills and a laser cutter sorry for miss spelling.... i typed it out really fast and didnt check it.

[robertg06]

It would be like impossible to MAKE a tennis racket from scratch. What you could do is like do a paintjob or something like my friend made a old Head Prestige look just like a KBlade :)

[SaunderS]

It would be like impossible to MAKE a tennis racket from scratch. What you could do is like do a paintjob or something like my friend made a old Head Prestige look just like a KBlade :)

thanks for the backup Bobby:)

[Tofi]

oh.but still it would be good for future references right i mean it would help you make a racket in the future when you can get your hands on the equipment. im also doing ict and buisness next year most probably so that would also help.

[robertg06]

thanks for the backup Bobby:)

No problems, although it would be interesting to find out what sort of equipment is needed to make a tennis racket. And how much it would cost...Personalized to the ultimate level :)

[Dave M]

Vantage are really cool. I wanna get a deal with them for Vantage Team, now that would be insanely cool. They have a 4D 300, and a 300 tour. .
Do you mean Vantage or Dunlop?Didnt think Vantage names their frames?
No offence but :confused:

You think the cortex works because youve tried it but you dont believe that big holes in the grommets would not. Its pretty obvious that having holes in the frame of the racquet would make it more aerodynamic and allow the strings to move more where as a piece of plastic around the throat will work? Why not just put an elastic band around the throat?
I was under the impression that although the plastic is on the outside the "tech" of cortex is inside and basically is something they use to dampen vibrations/join two parts of the frame differently.Dont believe the hype if most as you say but some of the stuff works and stays around.

i might make my own racket as a GCSE project. would be pretty cool..... i need to think of an idea. i've got to think about it though..... so hard. i'll draw some blue prints and stuff.
Errr, make one from scratch, its not just a slab of graphite, that wouldn't really work, thats why racquets are "braided" or multiple materials interlaced with one another, stiffness, strength etc.You could make a frame but i doubt it'd be useable speak to your teachers, i'd like to know where you goto school as if you can do it you must have some impressive kit there!
Tofi, did you say you are in Herts?Friend of mine plays in a couple of clubs there (lives in Hereford) which one are you at and whats the club scene like up there?

[Tofi]

its obvious what i was thinking. a inch thick slab of grphite and mark out the head length then cut it out round off the edges and drill the holes in. stick the metal bar on with the faomy stuff for the grip and cover up with a replacement grip and give to a stringer to string there. sems simple might be harder and stuff though than i said it. my school is a tech college so we have all the high tech gear for making tech things. i might be able to make one but it wont be that playable i dont think. i live in hertfordshire otherwise known as herts. dave i dont wanna say but my town is a 30 min drive away from centeral london.

[SaunderS]

Tofi ypu think making a tennis racket will be simple? you really dont understand. And Dave, He wont tell you his club, he sees it as 'personal':confused:

[Tofi]

it seems simple enough dont you think. it might be hard i'll think about a different project later on.

[robertg06]

Do you mean Vantage or Dunlop?Didnt think Vantage names their frames?

I mean I want to join the vantage team. PERIOD. TN have the dunlop 4d super lite but none of the other ones. :)

[Dave M]

i might be able to make one but it wont be that playable i dont think. i live in hertfordshire otherwise known as herts..

WEll good luck, if you decide to make one hope it goes well.Ahh i misread i see mow ypu wrote Herts!Sorry:oops:

[westy]

I hope you realise rackets aren't just "inch thick peices of graphie". they are hollow and have to be moulded.

[SaunderS]

I hope you realise rackets aren't just "inch thick peices of graphie". they are hollow and have to be moulded.

My point exactly.

[BestLefty UK]

You realise you have to:
-Calculate the headsize and shape
-Space the grommet holes perfectly to match a set
-Get the measurements of gripsize correct
-balance it
-Shave off the right amount of graphite to get the weight down
-Put a pallet on the grip

You really have no idea about the specification of a tennis racket do you? Just admit you can't and won't be able to make a tennis racket.
And another thing what does living 30 mins away from Central London have to do with making a racket.

[BestLefty UK]

Anyways... robert, what winter tournaments are you playing?

[mozzer]

Surely you would either need to make a mould and pur liquid graphite (if that exists) into it or get a graphite tube or the like and heat it up and bend it into shape. You must have a pretty amazing school if you got the tools for this!

[Tofi]

not really i dont have that stuff but still my school is a specialised technology college. anyways guys lets go into another topic.

[robertg06]

Anyways... robert, what winter tournaments are you playing?

Not many, I don't like cold lol. But I'm looking at Our Lady Of Muswell, played that once before.

[mozzer]

Saunders, you ever played at Tipton?

[BestLefty UK]

Not many, I don't like cold lol. But I'm looking at Our Lady Of Muswell, played that once before.

Lol. What about westway that's indoors so no temperature problem

[westy]

Saunders, you ever played at Tipton?

I played county cup there last year! Nice place.

[mozzer]

Yeah, its alright. You should see a club called Welti in Shropshire. Courts are getting pretty beat up now at Tipton, got a tournament there on 20th december.

[westy]

Yeh, I've played at Welti. That place is ridiculous!!

[mozzer]

Hah yeah, looks more like a hotel inside and out. Loved the carpet courts there too. Tell me if u ever playing there, can come and watch :)

[SaunderS]

Nope, never played at Tipton

[Seblad2k8]

yea iv played at tipton and i just sent my entrie off for the event on 20th of december:) look foward to beating you Moz (joke lol) i cant play the next gen open now though but i have a 2 at welti (18's and 16's ) and has anyone played at the Esporta Gloster? got one their hopefully on December 14th!:)

courts look lush (looked it up on the internet)
http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/6653/esportaglosterlz1.th.jpg (http://img392.imageshack.us/my.php?image=esportaglosterlz1.jpg) Esporta (same time of court as the Paris Masters)
http://img392.imageshack.us/img392/3204/weltixk4.th.jpg (http://img392.imageshack.us/my.php?image=weltixk4.jpg) Welti

[slicekick95]

Okay guys, I am from America so dont bash me for not knowing the system. But what is the difference between your rating and your ranking. Which is worth more? When you win a match, do you get ranking points and your rating improves? Or, is the rating and ranking two totally seperate thing? Im just really confused about the whole system.:confused:

[mozzer]

Seb, they are pretty beat up now, holes and chewing gum on them lol. slicekick95, with LTA rating here, you start at 10.2 and go to 10.1 then to 9.2 etc. When you are 10.2 or 10.1 youonly need to win 4 mathces to go down. But when you are 9.2 or better, you have to (i think) win 70% of 15 or 10 matches, i cant remember. Rankings are totally separate from ratings.

[Seblad2k8]

Seb, they are pretty beat up now, holes and chewing gum on them lol. slicekick95, with LTA rating here, you start at 10.2 and go to 10.1 then to 9.2 etc. When you are 10.2 or 10.1 youonly need to win 4 mathces to go down. But when you are 9.2 or better, you have to (i think) win 70% of 15 or 10 matches, i cant remember. Rankings are totally separate from ratings.

7 wins against a player rated higher or the same rating as you and a 60 percent win loss rate against qualifying losses (a player the same or lower than you)


which courts are beat up? one of the courts at welti has a little hole with pink stuff in it lol

[SaunderS]

Okay guys, I am from America so dont bash me for not knowing the system. But what is the difference between your rating and your ranking. Which is worth more? When you win a match, do you get ranking points and your rating improves? Or, is the rating and ranking two totally seperate thing? Im just really confused about the whole system.:confused:

Basically, your rating number goes up and our sgoes down. The lowest being 10.2, highest being 1.1(andy murray)

[Tofi]

hey guys. i dont believe it bloody tom daley beat laura robson to young sports personality. personally i think he's crap so do my friends. atleast joe won sports personality of the year aswell as roger winning overseas sports personality... any one actually watched it last night?? i didnt but i looked at the results.

guys how many matches do you have to win to get your ratings up???

[SaunderS]

hey guys. i dont believe it bloody tom daley beat laura robson to young sports personality. personally i think he's crap so do my friends. atleast joe won sports personality of the year aswell as roger winning overseas sports personality... any one actually watched it last night?? i didnt but i looked at the results.

guys how many matches do you have to win to get your ratings up???

Since you are 10.2, you need to win 4 to get to 10.1. Then another 4 to get to 9.2. After that you need like 65% winning percentage. BTW whats the website for the results on SPOTY

[robertg06]

Does anyone have a vantage? They look really cool and you can customize them a lot. I was just wondering what sort of rackets people have if they have them and how they play.

[Tofi]

Since you are 10.2, you need to win 4 to get to 10.1. Then another 4 to get to 9.2. After that you need like 65% winning percentage. BTW whats the website for the results on SPOTY

sorry that was last years one..... i just found out. anyways its 11 days to go until they put out the results. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/tv_and_radio/sports_personality_of_the_year/default.stm vote Laura coz i really hate tom daley. he shouldn't even be on there. hey guys is there a junior olympics??

[robertg06]

nah tom should be on there, but I still think Laura should win. All the gals like Tom and all the boys like Laura :)

[Alexio92]

Does anyone have a vantage? They look really cool and you can customize them a lot. I was just wondering what sort of rackets people have if they have them and how they play.

I have a vantage

[robertg06]

I have a vantage

What sorta specs?

[Tofi]

actually all my female friends hate him. they hate him coz he just shouldnt be on there. he won nothing..... also they said he's crap at what he does. i personally hate him. my best mates girlfriends brother goes swimming with him. also he won it last year. who do you think should win the adult one. i think Joe should. andy shouldnt. who cares if he went into a GS final he hasnt won one. joe on the other hand has been a world champion middle weight boxer for 11 years.

[Teamtomo]

hey guys. i dont believe it bloody tom daley beat laura robson to young sports personality. personally i think he's crap so do my friends.

agreed - Laura won something big this year and Tom didn't, this shows how some people think tennis is rubbish and how undervalued it is here in the UK

[Tofi]

Laura changed the history of junior british tennis this year and also became a pro. tom only got 6th and 7th in this years olympics.

[Alexio92]

What sorta specs?

330g, 12 pts hl, 27.5 inch, 63 RA, 100" and Red :)

Its amazing for serving, and volleying but I just found it a bit harder to swing on my backhand. My forehand was OK with it, but I found it hard to hit top spin backhands well although my slice was ok. I started using a head microgel extreme because I cracked my vantage on my serve when I let go of it and it hit the ground. Now I am used to the extreme I dont want to change back.

[robertg06]

I really don't think she actually should have joined the pro circuit yet but good luck to her.

[Tofi]

well she did and she beat some of the other pro's doing so which proves she should win the YSPOTY

[robertg06]

Yeah but I mean all that tension and pressure on her already :S

[Tofi]

yeah true but she took it extremely well.

[robertg06]

She'll win YPOTY simply because she actually won something.

[Tofi]

not really she could win it or tom could win it or elenor. it depends on the votes they get.

[1012007]

Laura changed the history of junior british tennis this year and also became a pro. tom only got 6th and 7th in this years olympics.

Yeah only. For someone to be good in your eyes, why do they have to be number 1??

[SaunderS]

Yeah i think Laura should DEFO get it. That makes us feel proud to be british.

[robertg06]

Thing is Tom did amazingly to qualify for the olympics in the first place. Laura won U18, but tom was competing in the ADULTS...

[Teamtomo]

i saw her play at Wimbledon this year, she is very promising and she hit some kick ass shots

[Tofi]

yeah but tom did nothing else U18 is still adult to me alot of those were 16 and past their puberty so really its the same thing.

[SaunderS]

Thing is Tom did amazingly to qualify for the olympics in the first place. Laura won U18, but tom was competing in the ADULTS...

Dont forget how unpopular Diving is though, and how popular Tennis is. I would rather win junior wimbledon than 6th/7th in olympics tennis.(if that makes sense)

[robertg06]

300 Tour I'm thinking, looks really good.

[slicekick95]

Basically, your rating number goes up and our sgoes down. The lowest being 10.2, highest being 1.1(andy murray)

sorry, i couldn't follow. what is the connection between rating numbers and rankings. for example, when looking for a sponsorship deal, what would a company look at first, your rating or ranking? which is more important?

[Teamtomo]

yay no school today....... teacher training day :)

[mozzer]

sorry, i couldn't follow. what is the connection between rating numbers and rankings. for example, when looking for a sponsorship deal, what would a company look at first, your rating or ranking? which is more important?
Probably ranking as the ratings here are pretty bad. I have thrashed peopel with a better rating than me but been thrashed by people with a worse rating etc. All about the rankings.

[Alexio92]

Probably ranking as the ratings here are pretty bad. I have thrashed peopel with a better rating than me but been thrashed by people with a worse rating etc. All about the rankings.

I just wish they did seeding on rankings and not ratings. Would make much more sence, the more you play the higher seed you get.

[BestLefty UK]

Well right now I'm using an 03 tour MP but I might be changing to either a Microgel Prestige Pro/Yonex RDS001 MP or something similar to those but right now I'm finding it quite tricky to find the right racket. I've changed like 4 times in the last year

[Tofi]

what makes you want to change from your 03 tour??

[Moz]

Well right now I'm using an 03 tour MP but I might be changing to either a Microgel Prestige Pro/Yonex RDS001 MP or something similar to those but right now I'm finding it quite tricky to find the right racket. I've changed like 4 times in the last year

Mate - you are looking at similar rackets to me.

If you know your aproximate specs this tool is useful:

http://www.tennis.com/yourgame/gear/racquetfinder/index.html

Also, I am discussing my demo experiences on this thread:

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=177107&page=102

[SaunderS]

You lot been watching Blackrock Masters?

[Tofi]

no i dont have sky on my tv atm i have feeview which sucks coz i'm missing all the good stuff.

[BestLefty UK]

Mate - you are looking at similar rackets to me.

If you know your aproximate specs this tool is useful:

http://www.tennis.com/yourgame/gear/racquetfinder/index.html

Also, I am discussing my demo experiences on this thread:

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=177107&page=102

Thanks mate! That top link is very useful

[Seblad2k8]

You lot been watching Blackrock Masters?

im watchin now mac a set down did you see that line call ! the ball was about 5 feet out and it was called in by that woman !

Im changing rackets i have two babolat aerpro Drives for four Head Flexpoint Radical's (Midplus's) im getting all four for 220 ! thats amazing it would be about 390 at best on the internet!:)

[SaunderS]

no i dont have sky on my tv atm i have feeview which sucks coz i'm missing all the good stuff.

Its on ITV4. Freeview channel 28.

[SaunderS]

im watchin now mac a set down did you see that line call ! the ball was about 5 feet out and it was called in by that woman !

Im changing rackets i have two babolat aerpro Drives for four Head Flexpoint Radical's (Midplus's) im getting all four for 220 ! thats amazing it would be about 390 at best on the internet!:)

Wow where you getting 4 for 220?

[Tofi]

Its on ITV4. Freeview channel 28.

cheers. now i dont have to miss the action. macenroe is playing crap .

[SaunderS]

I was gonna go on Saturday, but my mum was going to a christmas party, and i would have to stay overnight!

[SaunderS]

What you doin with the APD?

[robertg06]

They are in their catalog now...

Only the 4D super lite is?

[mozzer]

cheers. now i dont have to miss the action. macenroe is playing crap .
Please say you are joking? He is 50 and still hits great winners. They are all in it robert.

[SaunderS]

Im guessing Pete using the new racket.

[robertg06]

My dad was telling me about the match, I heard Pete thrashed him.

[BestLefty UK]

Pete didn't thrash him it was just a convincing win. Pete's serve was on fire, McEnroe played pretty well though

[Tofi]

Please say you are joking? He is 50 and still hits great winners. They are all in it robert.

ok but still i was only refering to him as crap from what i saw. he hits winners but lost in straight sets. but true he is 50 and plays a pretty tough game i like his serves. I'm defo watching the sampras game tomorow. pretty good game with pat cash though.

[SaunderS]

Tofi why are you getting the copper super six?? fork out the extra 10/15quid and get a better lookiing one.

[Alexio92]

Yeh but since mcenroe isnt number 1 any more then he is crap :D

[Tofi]

h guys training today yay. but i did cross country and i hate cross country its soo anoying and i came last in the 2nd lap and we only did 2 laps atleast i got good in the first lap.

[Teamtomo]

arrrrrrrggghhhhh i hate cross countries as well, our P.E teacher makes us do them for no reason what so ever.

[SaunderS]

Teamtomo, moving to US?

[Seblad2k8]

Blackrock master on now ! ITV 4

Cash Vs Rusedski

and

Bates Sampars or Edberg Forget!

[robertg06]

Anyone know how much it costs to ship from Tennis warehouse to the uk?

[SaunderS]

$38 last time i asked TW Staff. But theres loads of tax and duties etc.

[robertg06]

Thanks, can't be bothered with that, I'm thinking about buying myself a AG 300 but I think I'm gonna wait till 4Ds are available, anyone know any similar rackets?

[Teamtomo]

Teamtomo, moving to US?

could be moving to the New Jersey area.

[SaunderS]

could be moving to the New Jersey area.

When, and for what reason? You will get your tennis equipment well cheap!

[Teamtomo]

maybe sometime next year... me and my family have always be interested in moving to the US. And ordering from tw would be really cool. I also hope to play for a high school team

[Tofi]

go some where were it doesnt rain or snow and isnt cold.i came penultimate and i was really anoyed and stuff coz i didnt want to do it in the first place.

[SaunderS]

The thing is though Tomo, there might not be a decent tennis club closer to home than now.

[Tofi]

Hey guys whats a "foot fault"???

[SaunderS]

A foot-fault is when you step inside the baseline when you serve. it happens in you stand you close to it.

[Teamtomo]

Hey guys whats a "foot fault"???

your getting k90's and you don't know what a foot fault is!!!?????:shock::shock:

[SaunderS]

your getting k90's and you don't know what a foot fault is!!!?????:shock::shock:

Thats what i was thinking.

[Seblad2k8]

i knew what a foot fault was before i started playing tennis! lol

aw well

[Teamtomo]

I doubt he's even tried the racket properly. And even if he has I doubt he can use it properly

exactly, and most players put a poly in the mains and gut in the crosses, not vice versa

[SaunderS]

He says he play badly now because of his current racket. I think his new 1 will make him play alot better ;)

[Teamtomo]

what is his current racquet???

[SaunderS]

Prince air O cloud or something like that.

[Teamtomo]

i looked up the "prince air o" and they are junior racquet's!

[SaunderS]

i looked up the "prince air o" and they are junior racquet's!

Well, we are in the 'Junior section'.

I use 21" rackets.

[Tofi]

actually the Airo cloud isnt a junior racket its a 27 inch one look on the prince europe website.its a bigginers racket. anyways i was never told what a foot fault was even in my p.e. lessons. i always see the pro's stand on the base line to serve.

[SaunderS]

Only the 1 k90 now Tofi?

[SaunderS]

actually the Airo cloud isnt a junior racket its a 27 inch one lokon the prince europe website.its a bigginers racket. anyways i was never told what a foot fault was even in my p.e. lessons. i always see the pro's stand on the base line to serve.

Tofi, in my 5 years at high school, we have done tennis in P.E zilch times.

[Tofi]

Only the 1 k90 now Tofi?

yeah. im low on cash atm so i cant buy my own one but my perents will buy me one.

[Tofi]

Tofi, in my 5 years at high school, we have done tennis in P.E zilch times.

well we have 4 hard courts in school that we only use in the summer.

[SaunderS]

yeah. im low on cash atm so i cant buy my own one but my perents will buy me one.

When you getting the new vapors?

[Teamtomo]

Tofi, in my 5 years at high school, we have done tennis in P.E zilch times.

Man, thats bad. We do tennis in P.E once a year, with tesco racquets :-|:-|

[Tofi]

When you getting the new vapors?

january. thats when they are available in P W P.tomo your unlucky. we use old dunlop racket and other rackets but we are allowed to bring our own.

[SaunderS]

Yeah, our tennis courts are just lines painted on the playground. No nets, no nothing.

[SaunderS]

january. thats when they are available in P W P.tomo your unlucky. we use old dunlop racket and other rackets but we are allowed to bring our own.
how often do you do tennis in p.e?

[Teamtomo]

I can't wait to get my barricade V's

very off topic i know but i can't wait....

[Tofi]

we put up our nets in the summer and leave them there till the end of the year. we also have 1 lunch a week to play just with our year and there is only around 20 that go. we also play in the mornings and break. me and my friends play on fridays after school aswell. the rest of the year the tennis wourts are used for hockey and net ball which sucks... we get 1 hour a week for 6 weeks to play tennis in p.e.

[Tofi]

hey guys when are your next tournys and i know you most probabley need to but do you re string your racket before the tourny??

[mozzer]

Because i can? Next tourney is 20th december and i will restring my racket before.

[SaunderS]

23rd December.

[Teamtomo]

Next year is my tourny year.... been training hard for about a year and i think i am ready.....

[Teamtomo]

23rd December.

Wow, thats pretty close to crimbo, is it indoor??

[Tofi]

my first tourny is on the 18th of january

[SaunderS]

Wow, thats pretty close to crimbo, is it indoors??

Yeah, Its on a tuesday. Its because its a holiday. Yeah its indoors.

[Seblad2k8]

Yeah, Its on a tuesday. Its because its a holiday. Yeah its indoors.

where is it i have one on the 23rd its not in shropshire is it?

[SaunderS]

No. Robin Park Sports Centre, Wigan. Lancashire.

[robertg06]

Hmm, I'm thinking of getting myself a new racket :)

[SaunderS]

Hmm, I'm thinking of getting myself a new racket :)

great news.

[robertg06]

I played with the Six One Team on Thursday and it was really good.

Saunder, you got any suggestions?

[Tofi]

i would then suggest bob that you get the Six one team if you loved it.

[Teamtomo]

maybe the aerogel 300 rob???

[SaunderS]

What sort of racket you after Bobby. More power or more control etc.

[Tofi]

the head radical combi 2008 looks pretty good aswell.

[SaunderS]

Exactly. BTW why are you getting the K90? Have you tried it?

[Teamtomo]

so does the new head prestige bag

[Tofi]

yeah the head prestige bag looks good. i havent tried the k90 coz i dont know anyone that lets you try out rackets so i'm just gonna get it. its got a pretty good review and stuff so might aswell. i know i sound dumb when i say this. i just know and have a feeling that it will be pretty good. i've tried the 6.1 team its pretty good. my coach has 2 six one teams and my friend has a six one team aswell. the six one tour must be 20x better. if you know a place where i can try it out please feel free to tell me.

[robertg06]

I think I'm looking for a bit more power and a bit more spin which I think I'm lacking out on a bit with the denser string pattern. The AG 300 is definitely one that I'm seriously looking at, especially as it's being sold quite cheap now.

[SaunderS]

good. After that you might wanna try the 95 and compare.

[Tofi]

yeah. the 95 was ok but i only hit afew shots with it.

[robertg06]

Babolat AeroStorms look really nice...

[SaunderS]

Yeah they are. but if you want more power and spin. go for the APDC. Aerostorm is more control.

[Seblad2k8]

hmm im thinking about getting a new racket too. may go for a dunlop 300 from the d squad or the Head Flexpoint Radicals 4 for 220! or something else also a prince sponsorship is pretty easy top 200 lol:)

[SaunderS]

hmm im thinking about getting a new racket too. may go for a dunlop 300 from the d squad or the Head Flexpoint Radicals 4 for 220! or something else also a prince sponsorship is pretty easy top 200 lol:)

top 200 easy? what rank r u?

[robertg06]

I tried out an APDC and didn't really like it too much, I felt like I was actually getting less power. People are saying that the main problem with the AG 300 is it's stability, anyone here got any experience with that?

[Teamtomo]

I have an ag300, and i am thinking of adding some lead tape at 3 and 9 o clock to increase stability. I think it will help for me to plow through the ball instead of swing wildly and out of control which sometimes happens. And yes the ag300 is brilliant in all areas apart from stability, but as i said, a couple of lead tape strips at 3 and 9 will help that. Sometimes i over swing on my groundies due to this problem, causing slight elbow pain (not TE). But yeah, the ag300 is defiantly worth a try.