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Captain Haddock
11-20-2006, 04:15 PM
So I'm currently experimenting with the Instinct (not the FXP version), which is, on paper at least, pretty close to what I'm looking for: a player's racquet with good flex, some pop, a semi-dense string pattern and a super-midplus head. I have mine set up with babolat leather grips and 8 grams of lead at 3 and 9, strung with Topspin Cyberflash 17 gauge at 58. They now weigh 11.8 oz, a good weight for me.
But.. the new frames (made in China) I received today look different from my first one (made in Austria). The paint is less yellow and more brown, and the lettering is not as dark. The buttcaps are also different (Austria = white; China = black and white). They also came prestrung with Head synthetic gut (a decent string job for factory strings, they feel tighter than my 2 day old Cyberflash job at 58) which I guess I'll try before cutting them out.
Has anyone noticed any difference between the Austrian and Chinese versions? When did Head switch production to China? Did this happen after they were discontinued, like the "resurrection batches" of PT 280s, Genesis/Atlantis, and Trysis 260s? I'm confused.

dancraig
11-20-2006, 04:28 PM
http://digg.com/business_finance/One_company_s_excuse_reason_to_move_production_to_ China_from_Europe


http://investor.head.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=123990&p=irol-newsArticle&ID=699494

Captain Haddock
11-21-2006, 08:48 AM
Let me rephrase. I am well aware that Head has switched production to China for some models several years ago, while maintaining a smaller production unit in Austria. My questions are specifically about the LM Instinct:
1) When did the Chinese version replace the Austrian one? Were they made concurrently, or did Head start making the Instincts in China once they were discontinued from their main line (like the Chinese PT 280 which was brought back when the Austrian one was no longer made).
2) Aside from minor cosmetic differences, does the Chinese version play differently or suffer from more specs discrepancies? (assuming that there was better quality control in Austria).
Can anyone compare both versions?

vsbabolat
11-21-2006, 10:43 AM
HEAD has ended production in Austria for all consumer racquets. The only racquets they still make in Austria is 50,000 for the Pros. Production has been outscourced to China for about a year now. The last racquets that were supposed to be made in Austria for the consumer are the Prestige Classic 600 that Tennis-Warehouse has.

See this thread as to why the made in Austria Instinct is better than the China Instinct.
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=105997

katastrof
11-21-2006, 11:38 AM
HEAD has ended production in Austria for all consumer racquets. The only racquets they still make in Austria is 50,000 for the Pros. Production has been outscourced to China for about a year now. The last racquets that were supposed to be made in Austria for the consumer are the Prestige Classic 600 that Tennis-Warehouse has.

See this thread as to why the made in Austria Instinct is better than the China Instinct.
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=105997

But again, none of this really answers the OP's question. All comments on the China/Austria issue are very subjective and hollow. About the racquets made in China people make ridiculuos comments like "feels like a toy". A poorer quality paintjob does not necessarily mean the racquets are any worse.

And also, Fabrice, since you have both versions right now, why don't YOU play with both and you let the others know?

Captain Haddock
11-21-2006, 12:25 PM
I'll gladly post my own comparison after I try both versions. So far, I've only used the Austrian model. I only received the new frames yesterday. I was just curious to see if anyone had tried both. But you're right, there is nothing like one's own empirical assessment.