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me is bored
01-07-2007, 05:44 PM
its great ill string on it within couple days and try to get pics when i can

bad_call
01-07-2007, 06:49 PM
welcome to the club. but be careful cause stringing can be addictive. i'm hooked on hybrid combo variations.

Redflea
01-07-2007, 09:27 PM
Congrats...welcome to the clan of fanatics. :)

tennis-skater
01-08-2007, 02:20 AM
and now you'll have a bad day decide its the strings cut them out and string it up with a new combo till you havea good day

downey stringing master
01-08-2007, 02:26 PM
welcome to the club. but be careful cause stringing can be addictive. i'm hooked on hybrid combo variations.

whats your fav hybrid :-)

theace21
01-08-2007, 02:29 PM
Awesome machine! Have fun...

me is bored
01-08-2007, 04:10 PM
lol no i like my strings (timo 18 and sometimes 17 gauge ;) ) and i already liked it lol i went to austin for a super champ major zone (TX tourney) and met Mark it was cool lol im gonna be stringing my old instincts and maybe my dads ti.radical cuz the strings are 2 years old on it lol but ill tell yall how much i like it l8er lol =p ;)

Netgame
01-10-2007, 07:27 PM
its great ill string on it within couple days and try to get pics when i can

Where did you buy it? How much if I may ask?

varuscelli
01-10-2007, 08:02 PM
Where did you buy it? How much if I may ask?

Hi, Netgame. Just check out the New Tech Tennis site. That's Alpha's sales outlet.

Here's the page on the New Tech Tennis site that leads in to their machines and prices are listed for each specific machine.

http://www.newtechtennis.com/store/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=3

The Revo is likely going to run you about $549 plus whatever shipping is to your part of the country.

You can also call Alpha and talk to Mark or Greg about their machines. 1-800-577-1916

Netgame
01-11-2007, 01:43 PM
Thanks Varuscelli. I called Mark and he told me everything I need to know. Has anyone heard who has the best Customer Service between Gamma and Alpha? I'm torn between these two companies and maybe this will tip the balance.

eunjam
01-11-2007, 02:05 PM
congrats. you will LOVVEEE stringing.

varuscelli
01-11-2007, 02:05 PM
Thanks Varuscelli. I called Mark and he told me everything I need to know. Has anyone heard who has the best Customer Service between Gamma and Alpha? I'm torn between these two companies and maybe this will tip the balance.

I own a Gamma but I also live very close to Alpha, so I have mixed loyalties but could be biased one way or the other. Therefore, I cannot answer in good conscience. :p

(But I should say that I don't own the Gamma because I picked it over an Alpha machine. I just got too good a deal to pass up on a very slightly used machine. I'm very happy I got the Gamma, but I was about an inch away from getting an Alpha machine myself.)

I think it's been said a few times before (and I'm just paraphrasing) that if two the machines you are considering are very close to what you want and come from those two makers, you're likely gonna be happy with whichever you choose. I've also heard representatives of both companies say good things about the other company and their machines, so I think there's a level of mutual respect between them. From customers, I hear a lot of good things about Alpha customer service and Alpha representatives just about always seem to be available easily through a phone call or e-mail. And on this very list, forum member Gamma Tech often seems to be available to answer questions when needed. Both of those things encompass some of the signs of good customer service. Whether one has the edge over the other...I dunno. (Sorry to be vague, but I think there's great potential to pick a winner whichever way you go.)

me is bored
01-11-2007, 02:29 PM
ahhh hijacking!!!!!!!!!! and does anybody know a good cart for the revo 4000

varuscelli
01-11-2007, 02:55 PM
ahhh hijacking!!!!!!!!!! and does anybody know a good cart for the revo 4000

Please, let's not change the subject. We were just getting going. :p

There was actually a very lengthy thread on just that topic that we're not too far removed from. I promise you that if you use the search function in this very forum and use the keywords of "cart" or "stand" you'll find a hit on exactly what you're looking for very quickly. Cross my heart. ;)

varuscelli
01-11-2007, 03:03 PM
How to: Buying/making a stand for a table-top machine (http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=104833&highlight=stand)

me is bored
01-11-2007, 05:55 PM
ya i saw that but is there do u personally know where i can get anything in south houston, maybe bald furnitureand make my own custom cart out of wood =/

Redflea
01-11-2007, 07:02 PM
Many of the stands/carts shown there are available on the web for order.

Aside from that, you could look into local office furniture stores, maybe Ikea, KMart, Sears, Walmart, etc., and see what they have.

Your Revo is pretty heavy at about 80lbs, so you'll need to make sure you get something sturdy.

me is bored
01-11-2007, 07:08 PM
actually its 51 pounds =p somebody measure it before with wise and said it was 63lbs. i forgot if the wise is 12 pounds or 8pounds so w/e

varuscelli
01-11-2007, 07:18 PM
ya i saw that but is there do u personally know where i can get anything in south houston, maybe bald furnitureand make my own custom cart out of wood =/

I suggest you try a used furniture/used office furniture store or salvage place. There's one on I-45 South near the Monroe Exit (east side of the freeway) roughly between Almeda Mall and Loop 610 (but on the opposite side of I-45 from Almeda Mall). Big, ugly, light blue colored building next to a big motorcycle shop. They specialize in salvage and buyouts of old office furniture, school furniture, etc. You'll likely be able to find something heavy, sturdy, and still small enough (and dirt cheap compared to something new) to work perfectly for a tabletop stringing machine. It's like of like walking through an office furniture warehouse/flea market and there's no telling what you'll find. Can't remember the name of the place, but it's pretty easy to find, given that they're right on the freeway going toward Houston from where I think you'd be coming from.

As a suggestion, even something like an old dot matrix printer stand might work wonders as a tabletop stringing machine base, if you found the right one (and could likely be had for a fraction of what it cost new). Just look for something sturdy and something that you think you might be able to attach some wheels to, if desired (and if what you find doesn't already have them). Not necessary, but perhaps a convenience (wheels, I mean, especially if they include a couple of locking wheels to steady the whole thing when you're actually working).

me is bored
01-11-2007, 07:32 PM
thx for the help! ill prolly check it out later or go to like home depot or wal-mart or sumthing like that lol ;)

dallasstarsfan
01-11-2007, 07:39 PM
I am using a Lowes workbench for my Alpha Revo. it is the lowes version of this ... http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=176390-76015-WM125&lpage=none

It is sturdier, has pockets and a "shelf" underneath the work surface. The pockets are great for extra tools and the shelf is great for storing reels and packets of strings, grips, lead tape etc.

I think I paid $40 or $50 for it.

Netgame
01-12-2007, 05:18 AM
Dallasstarstan:

How are the ergonomics? Can you get close enough to the machine to avoid bending forward? Also, is the Revo light enough to pick up an move around?

I'm sort of torn between the Revo and the Axis Pro. The Axis seems like it will take up a lot of room and not be able to move around much. For this reason I'm thinking Revo.

varuscelli
01-12-2007, 08:08 AM
Also, is the Revo light enough to pick up an move around?

Um..."me is bored" stated the weight of the machine already in this thread (just about four replies back from your question). ;)

But when you ask if it's light enough to pick up and move around, that's going to vary from person to person. Depends on the kinds of weight you are personally comfortable with lifting. Dallasstarsfan could be a professional weight lifter, so his take on it could be significantly different than your own. :) (We don't want you angrily saying later that "Dallasstarsfan said he could pick it up with his pinky finger and I'm finding that difficult!")

But also, "weight" with something oddly shaped like a stringing machine can be a bit less straightforward to deal with than many other items. Picking up, for instance, a 50lb stringing machine will "feel" a lot different than picking up a 50lb suitcase or a 50lb weight at the gym. You'll be quite a bit more awkwardly balanced and will have to..."watch what you grab" so to speak. ;)

jhp49
01-12-2007, 09:24 AM
I got my Alpha Revo 4000 last week. Compared to my EAGNAS Hawk 80, the Alpha is a tank. It is really built solid. It is taller than the Eagnas. It also weighs more, about 70 to 75lbs compared to about 40-50lbs for the Eagnas. The racquet height when mounted in the Revo 4000 from the cart top it is sitting on is about 17 to 17.5 inches. Plan your cart height accordingly. I'm using a TV stand with rollers I had. It rolls nicely into the closet. It is really nice to string on. I've strung a traditional 2 piece string job and a proportional 2 piece string job since I received the machine.

JHP

varuscelli
01-12-2007, 09:52 AM
actually its 51 pounds

I got my Alpha Revo 4000 last week. Compared to my EAGNAS Hawk 80, the Alpha is a tank. It is really built solid. It is taller than the Eagnas. It also weighs more, about 70 to 75lbs . . .

I know that the weight of the Revo 4000 has come up in many threads since I've been here and I thought it ran a bit more to the heavier side as jhp says (I'm not quoting, just vaguely remembering). But you guys have a good 20lb difference in your quotes.

So what's the real weight? Anyone got a scale at home so you can verify? ;)

flash9
01-12-2007, 10:28 AM
So what's the real weight? Anyone got a scale at home so you can verify? ;)

Having mine For Sale (If the post ever appears), I weighed myself (187lbs), and then I lifted the REVO4K and the scale read just over 240lbs. So my guess is between 50 and 60 lbs. This from a basic cheep Bathroom Scale. :confused:

Redflea
01-12-2007, 11:41 AM
I asked Alpha, and I believe they told me about 75lbs for the Revo.

dallasstarsfan
01-12-2007, 01:53 PM
Dallasstarstan:

How are the ergonomics? Can you get close enough to the machine to avoid bending forward? Also, is the Revo light enough to pick up an move around?

I'm sort of torn between the Revo and the Axis Pro. The Axis seems like it will take up a lot of room and not be able to move around much. For this reason I'm thinking Revo.


Great question regarding ergo: When I first did this set up, I thought that it was too high for me (I am 5'7"). However, once i started stringing, I find that I really like the height as I don't have to hunch over the machine (which I had to do when it was on a table top).

The lowes workbench is more than sturdy enough to hold the machine. I store the machine in an unfinished part of the basement. When I string, I lift the machine off the bench and move both separately to the finished basement where I can listen to to music from my Squeezebox 3 whilst stringing. The revo is not too heavy for me to carry (though it is a sturdy machine). I am estimating that it weighs in at 50 pounds, maybe 55 pounds with all of the tools in the tray. The other handy thing about the work bench is that I can place a dowel on it and use the built-in ruler to check racquet balance. In addition, the built in ruler is handy to measure off string coming off reels or cutting string for hybriding.

I will try to post a picture or two when I have a moment.

Netgame
01-12-2007, 05:26 PM
Thanks. I'll will be checking back to see your setup. I have a black and decker workbench almost identical to yours.

varuscelli
01-12-2007, 06:28 PM
Having mine For Sale (If the post ever appears), I weighed myself (187lbs), and then I lifted the REVO4K and the scale read just over 240lbs. So my guess is between 50 and 60 lbs. This from a basic cheep Bathroom Scale. :confused:

flash9, go out and buy one of those $90 bathroom scales so we can be sure. ;)

:p

:)

varuscelli
01-12-2007, 06:39 PM
I will try to post a picture or two when I have a moment.

If you'd like to share any photos with the Stringing Machine Photo Library, please let me know. Part of the philosophy behind the site is to show how people are successfully setting themselves up with tabletop machines and how they set up their immediate machine/table/stand environment.

The Alpha machines that we have can all be seen here, and I always welcome shots that show different machines in different user configurations.

http://www.photostringer.com/alpha.htm

dallasstarsfan
01-12-2007, 08:34 PM
Alright, here is my attempt to link some photos:

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/155/355505747_e0df3cb729.jpg

strings, grips, grommets, etc are in the boxes.

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/157/355505748_87e69ff0e7.jpg

http://farm1.static.flickr.com/147/355509666_3811a61718.jpg

varuscelli
01-12-2007, 09:41 PM
That looks like a very workable, solid, stable, and relatively low-cost solution. I like it. :)

And I like that the workbench is something that has a lot of other functions for someone who might want to use it occasionally for general utility work unrelated to stringing. Definitely a cool solution with many pluses, I think, including it being very much a multifunction workbench.

Netgame
01-13-2007, 03:58 AM
That looks like a great setup. You bought this from Lowes? I looked on their website to see what they cost and couldn't find one. I hope they aren't discontinued.

dallasstarsfan
01-13-2007, 06:46 AM
That looks like a great setup. You bought this from Lowes? I looked on their website to see what they cost and couldn't find one. I hope they aren't discontinued.

I tried to find it on Lowe's website to link you but their website just plan stinks. I put in work bench and came up with 15 pages of hits, none of whcih were correct. I was at Lowes the other day and they still had it. I forget the name of their branded stuff (Worktools or Workforce) but I am 99% sure they still have it. They have a cheaper version with no crossbracing and no "shelf" that goes for $30. This is the beefier version that goes for $60 (or $50 on sale).

Last, if you look at this higher res photo, you can see the rulers on each of the hortizontal edge -- one side is metric and the other is English units (inches).


http://farm1.static.flickr.com/155/355505747_e0df3cb729_b.jpg

ShooterMcMarco
01-13-2007, 07:13 AM
heres mine:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/shootermcmarco/IMG_0848_copy.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/shootermcmarco/IMG_0849_copy.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/shootermcmarco/IMG_0847_copy.jpg

i obviously roll it away from the post when i string ;)

Netgame
01-13-2007, 09:23 AM
DallasStarsFan and Shooter McMarco:
Would either of you rather have the Axis Pro if you could have had it for the same price?

dallasstarsfan
01-13-2007, 09:40 AM
DallasStarsFan and Shooter McMarco:
Would either of you rather have the Axis Pro if you could have had it for the same price?

Good question: The cheapside of me would answer I would buy the preowned axis pro since I would be getting "more" for my money. From an aesthetic standpoint, I do think the standalone machine looks "cooler" and integrated.

The practical side of me likes the Revo 4000 on the workbench set-up a lot because I move it out of the unfinished portion of our basement to use it and listen to music or watch sports on the projector system. I think it would be more difficult to move a standalone machine which scraping my walls. Last, having the 5 year warranty from Alpha is worth the piece of mind for me. As well built as these machines are, they are still machines with many parts. I venture that some of these parts are more durable while some are not so durable. Having the ability to call up and get support/replacement parts for 5 years is nice.

Netgame
01-13-2007, 11:10 AM
Yes, it's not have a guarantee the worries me the most. I could end up paying more in the long run. Thanks for the input.

ShooterMcMarco
01-13-2007, 11:44 AM
NetGame, yes, I'd get the axis pro instead for sure if they were the same price. I'm really happy with the revo and have no regrets.

me is bored
01-13-2007, 11:45 AM
u guys should really stop hijacking =/ jk but i need a good stand!!

Redflea
01-13-2007, 12:45 PM
heres mine:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/shootermcmarco/IMG_0848_copy.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/shootermcmarco/IMG_0849_copy.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/shootermcmarco/IMG_0847_copy.jpg

i obviously roll it away from the post when i string ;)

I like that one the best for the Revo...very solid, wheels, storage... excellent.

ShooterMcMarco
01-13-2007, 01:28 PM
Yeah, the top supports up to 150 lbs.

KingO
01-13-2007, 01:38 PM
Sorry to sidetrack on your thread me is bored :) . But to finally answer the question on how much does the Alpha Revo weigh, the machine itself is 29 kg = 63.8 lbs... the whole package (shipping box) is 34 kg = 74.8 lbs. I tried to attach a picture of the box, but I don't know how :-( .

I was also going to post pictures of my set-up, but again, I don't know how to post pictures :confused: .

dallasstarsfan
01-13-2007, 02:09 PM
Sorry to sidetrack on your thread me is bored :) . But to finally answer the question on how much does the Alpha Revo weigh, the machine itself is 29 kg = 63.8 lbs... the whole package (shipping box) is 34 kg = 74.8 lbs. I tried to attach a picture of the box, but I don't know how :-( .

I was also going to post pictures of my set-up, but again, I don't know how to post pictures :confused: .


Holy cow, 64 pounds. I am STRONG !! :D All this time I was thinking I was only lifting 50 pounds.

me is bored
01-13-2007, 02:51 PM
well whats the name of that stand yall are all talkin bout...and how high is it?? and how much =]

varuscelli
01-13-2007, 03:23 PM
Holy cow, 64 pounds. I am STRONG !! :D All this time I was thinking I was only lifting 50 pounds.

Just as I suspected. You ARE a professional weight lifter. :mad:

:p

varuscelli
01-13-2007, 03:36 PM
But to finally answer the question on how much does the Alpha Revo weigh, the machine itself is 29 kg = 63.8 lbs... the whole package (shipping box) is 34 kg = 74.8 lbs. I tried to attach a picture of the box, but I don't know how :-( .

I was also going to post pictures of my set-up, but again, I don't know how to post pictures :confused: .

Thank you, KingO, for clearing up that "weight" question. :)

And you could always send ME photos of your setup and I could post them to the photostringer website. ;)

And you, too, ShooterMcMarco!

me is bored
01-13-2007, 03:44 PM
I like that one the best for the Revo...very solid, wheels, storage... excellent.

whats the name of it, how high and how much, and if possible where to get!!!!!

varuscelli
01-13-2007, 03:57 PM
well whats the name of that stand yall are all talkin bout...and how high is it?? and how much =]

Are you asking about the one that looks to be an AV cart, me is bored? The one that ShooterMcMarco is showing?

me is bored
01-13-2007, 04:00 PM
I like that one the best for the Revo...very solid, wheels, storage... excellent.

heres mine:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/shootermcmarco/IMG_0848_copy.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/shootermcmarco/IMG_0849_copy.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y11/shootermcmarco/IMG_0847_copy.jpg

i obviously roll it away from the post when i string ;)

that one is the one im talkin bout

T.J. Planas
01-13-2007, 05:21 PM
FYI: Harbor Freight has a folding workbench similiar to the Black & Decker that was mentioned above. Right now it si on Sale for $9.99 It is item # 47844

-T.J. Planas

varuscelli
01-13-2007, 05:39 PM
dallasstarsfan:

Thanks for the contributions... :)

http://www.photostringer.com/alpha.htm

http://www.photostringer.com/alpha_revo_4000_02.htm

me is bored
01-13-2007, 05:43 PM
that item numbers not working =/ but they have a height adjustable workbench for 49.99 =]

T.J. Planas
01-13-2007, 07:53 PM
That item is listed in Harbor Freight's current flyer. It may just not be available online. I've had trouble with things like that before with them. It may be worth your while to see if they have a store near you.

-T.J.

ShooterMcMarco
01-13-2007, 09:55 PM
I bought that cart from office depot for 39.99

me is bored
01-14-2007, 08:07 AM
k thx for the help if we cant find anything as good as that in the furniture/office supplies salvage place well prolly try to get that one

me is bored
01-14-2007, 09:46 AM
ehh but wuts it called????

varuscelli
01-14-2007, 10:10 AM
ehh but wuts it called????

I might be wrong on the specific name, but that looks generically to be a fairly standard audio-visual (AV) cart. There are literally dozens of different designs for them and the good thing is that you can find them just about anywhere (Wal-Mart, Target, Sam's Club, just about anywhere you can buy TV and VCR equipment). Prices can range anywhere from the the lower end of less than $50 to $400 or more if you want a really good one. Some of the better ones even have adjustable height platforms.

What I'd look at pretty carefully on one of those (once you've assured yourself that the height is right for you) is the quality of the wheels. Determine what kinds of surfaces you'll need to roll the thing over and look closely at the wheels. Are they large enough? And they well built? Will they roll easily with a heavy weight on them so that they won't mark up a floor (depending on the floor you'll be rolling it over). The wheel size and "rollability" can be a real issue, for instance, if carpet is part of the flooring. (And I'm not talking about using them strictly in a stringing sense, but just how these things generally tend to behave in general.) The cheaper the components -- like the wheels -- the more likely that they might be to give you a bit of grief in any given situation.

A lot of AV carts will also come with built-in power strips, too, if that's a concern (but I'd guess that to be a minor consideration for most people in terms of stringing needs, even if a Wise 2086 were involved).

Another thing to think about is that when you buy these, they're usually neatly boxed for you to bring home. Once assembled, they're generally far from portable unless you have an SUV or truck to transport them with. Most car trunks would have difficulty holding a fully assembled AV cart for transport (if indeed you might need to consider that). If you're going to leave it at home, it's one thing. If you might be considering it as part of your road kit...I dunno. Depends on your vehicle situation.

ShooterMcMarco
01-14-2007, 12:36 PM
ehh but wuts it called????

I don't remember. It had a picture of a printer sitting on top though. I got it last year btw, hopefully you can find something similar or better.

me is bored
01-14-2007, 12:38 PM
yes we found somethign decent but we still need to go to the furniture salvage place =\

ShooterMcMarco
01-15-2007, 08:57 PM
Thank you, KingO, for clearing up that "weight" question. :)

And you could always send ME photos of your setup and I could post them to the photostringer website. ;)

And you, too, ShooterMcMarco!

Yeah I can do that, I'll take better pics, ones that aren't so dark. Nice site idea btw ;)

varuscelli
01-15-2007, 09:09 PM
Yeah I can do that, I'll take better pics, ones that aren't so dark. Nice site idea btw ;)

That's great!

Anything you'd like to send can be e-mailed to me at:

vruscelli@houston.rr.com

And e-mail me if you have any questions.

Thanks a bunch...

Al

julianoz
07-19-2007, 05:29 PM
Can anyone with the revo 4000 take the dimensions of it? I want to see if it can be stored in a close that I have. This is a big help thanks!!

Hewitt Aussie
07-19-2007, 06:02 PM
hey guys i was wondering if the revo 4000 is dual voltage. And if it isnt, then what stringing machines are?

Court_Jester
07-19-2007, 06:30 PM
hey guys i was wondering if the revo 4000 is dual voltage.
Revo is a manual crank machine. No electricity required.

Hewitt Aussie
07-19-2007, 06:37 PM
so you dont have to charge the machine to anything, it works without plugging it in to anything?

Court_Jester
07-19-2007, 07:03 PM
so you dont have to charge the machine to anything, it works without plugging it in to anything?
Yep. Like what I said earlier, no need to plug in.

flash9
07-20-2007, 04:14 AM
Can anyone with the revo 4000 take the dimensions of it? I want to see if it can be stored in a close that I have. This is a big help thanks!!

To get the exact dimensions I would call Mark G at Alpha, but it is about 27in long and 15in deep. This is just a guess. We once had one, and when it sat on our 24in A/V cart it did overhang a few inches.