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dump_can
01-29-2007, 09:54 AM
Me and my friend were arguing Borg and Federer. I told him today's game is simply just more demanding than it used to be. Players today are much more physical. They're faster, stronger, more flexible, swing harder. Any of today's players would beat any of the players from the 60's. I went on to argue that if I played Macenroe I could compete. Maybe get a few games or make it close. So, if anyone knows Macenroe or if Macenroe reads this write back.

urban
01-29-2007, 09:57 AM
Maybe you can beat a Macenroe. Look into the telephone book, maybe you find some.

LttlElvis
01-29-2007, 12:17 PM
Any of today's players can beat players on th 60's ?? I think Federer could beat anyone of any era. But do you think Rosewall or Laver with a wood racquet on grass would lose to Roddick with a wood racquet. I don't think so. These guys had incredible skills and were great court tacticians. They new how to build up a point. Their mental games alone are much stronger than today's players. I do agree that today's players are a lot bigger and more athletic, but I don't think all of them would beat yesterday's players as easily as you think.

As far as McEnroe, first learn to spell the name before trying to challenge him. Just kidding. Have you seen him play live lately? The guy still has incredible strokes. He is near 50 and I bet you he would easily beat most Div. I college players. I doubt any club player at 4.5 - 5.0 could win a game off him. I am sure no one in his age range could beat him. The guys in their mid 30s like Courier beat him on the seniors tour, but not that easily.

chrisdaniel
01-29-2007, 02:59 PM
...Mac would school you....6.0 6.0 ......hes beating alot of players that havent been off the tour for long...Tod Martin,hanging with Rios,Courier,...get out of here...John is one of the most talanted people to ever swing a racquet,he would beat you badly even at 60 years old....Unless your an ITF pro at least,which I highly doubt because they wouldnt mispell McEnroe....challange high school player levels first....this is really dumb dude....humans are great at things...do you really think those pros who dedicated their life to the sport would just suck today...yes times have changed,but one thing hasnt,they were pros,and you cant compare what they can do,to what YOU can do....unless you work your butt off the way they and the players of today do..and most people have no clue on the level these pros work at..

FiveO
01-29-2007, 03:36 PM
First challenge the top 55 MS player in your section for perspective.

dump_can
01-30-2007, 01:52 PM
I'm not kidding jerk. I'll take out any 50 yr old man any day. I challenge any 50 yr old man, especially John McEnroe.

dump_can
01-30-2007, 02:00 PM
But do you think Rosewall or Laver with a wood racquet on grass would lose to Roddick with a wood racquet. I don't think so. These guys had incredible skills and were great court tacticians. They new how to build up a point. Their mental games alone are much stronger than today's players.

Roddick would school Laver with a broomstick. And as for McEnroe, every player in the game today has a stronger mental game. He was a total head case. Any call that went against him in an important situation made him cry, whine, and complain until he didn't get his way. That's a strong mental game?

THIS IS NOT A JOKE
I CHALLENGE, YOU, JOHN McENROE!!!!

martin
01-30-2007, 02:08 PM
You're a headcase too dump can. Only worse!!!

martin
01-30-2007, 02:17 PM
Mcenroe schooled Roddick not so long ago in wtc tennis. In matches over short periods he's still as good as anybody. Just look when he played superset tennis.

Croatia's Mario Ancic beat Britain's Greg Rusedski 11-9 in the Superset Tennis sudden-death shoot-out final to walk away with the £250,000 winner-takes-all prize at Wembley Arena tonight.

Ancic, aged 20 and ranked 20 in the world, and 31-year-old Rusedski traded serves for 20 games before Rusedski finally capitulated on the third set point.

Victory gave Ancic a world record reward for three sets of tennis.

The battle of the big servers went with serve for the first 19 games before Rusedski, after saving two match points, was beaten by a forehand down the line.

Ancic, the Wimbledon conqueror of Tim Henman, said: "It's been a great year in England for me and right now I'm speechless.

"It's my first tournament win, it isn't an ATP event but it was worth fighting for. I was just concentrating on serving."

Rusedski reflected: "I wish I'd lost in the first round because I wouldn't be feeling so bad now. But Mario served too well and good luck to him."

After beating American Robby Ginepri in the first round, Ancic was involved in a long semi-final when 45-year-old John McEnroe pushed him all the way.

The three-times Wimbledon champion had already handed Britain's latest prospect Andrew Murray a 24-minute masterclass, crushing the recent US Open boys' singles champion 6-1.

Then, revelling in the razzmatazz of sudden-death tennis, he stretched Ancic to 9-7 before finally coming to a double fault.

Both Ancic and Murray admitted they had never met anyone like McEnroe, with the young Croatian conceding: "He played unbelievable tennis. That's the best guy at serve and volley. For one set he is so tough.

"He picked up volleys and half-volleys and showed he is a true legend

goober
01-30-2007, 02:19 PM
What's in it for Johnny Mac if he plays you? Uh nothing...

I doubt that he is scared of any club player. He lost to Ancic, who was top 20 in the world at the time, 9-7 in superset a few years ago.

tarheels2323
01-30-2007, 02:47 PM
Hmmm... well you should probably first learn to spell McEnroe's name properly. Oh, and you'd get killed. John McEnroe was a pro, and knows what it takes. You play on the weekends with middle-aged overweight or pimply-faced high school friends and think your "monster" 45 mph forehand will dominate a former world #1. I used to be the same way in high school... I though I was amazing. Guess what? I'm not, I'm a 5.0. Maybe 5.5 on a great day. I am only decent. I would get killed by McEnroe. This is a guy that won 7 GS titles against intense competition and sat at the top of the food chain for a good while. This is a guy that lost 3 matches in 1977. It may have been thirty years ago but something tells me he could still whip mostly anybody in the world that wants to hold a tennis racquet against him. You would be embarassed. I would be embarassed. I accept it. You probably should too.

tarheels2323
01-30-2007, 02:50 PM
Roddick would school Laver with a broomstick. And as for McEnroe, every player in the game today has a stronger mental game. He was a total head case. Any call that went against him in an important situation made him cry, whine, and complain until he didn't get his way. That's a strong mental game?

THIS IS NOT A JOKE
I CHALLENGE, YOU, JOHN McENROE!!!!

You forget that you're talking about the one man whose anger made him better. His mental game may have been lacking, but he's just so good that it doesn't matter.

THIS IS NOT A JOKE
I'D LOVE TO BE THERE TO SEE McENROE RUN YOU ALL OVER THE COURT

Amone
01-30-2007, 05:28 PM
Roddick would school Laver with a broomstick. And as for McEnroe, every player in the game today has a stronger mental game. He was a total head case. Any call that went against him in an important situation made him cry, whine, and complain until he didn't get his way. That's a strong mental game?

THIS IS NOT A JOKE
I CHALLENGE, YOU, JOHN McENROE!!!!

He wasn't a total headcase-- he just looked like one. I've never heard a case where McEnroe lost a match because he tanked, or got frustrated, like I have heard about Roddick. There is one exception, where he was defaulted, but that's not really a head problem, and more a rule-breaking one.

John McEnroe was an expert at making it look like he cared just enough to take a break he wanted, or to intimidate the people he wanted scared. That's not a bad mental game, that's genius, dude.

FiveO
01-31-2007, 05:30 AM
Mcenroe schooled Roddick not so long ago in wtc tennis. In matches over short periods he's still as good as anybody. Just look when he played superset tennis.

Croatia's Mario Ancic beat Britain's Greg Rusedski 11-9 in the Superset Tennis sudden-death shoot-out final to walk away with the 250,000 winner-takes-all prize at Wembley Arena tonight.

Ancic, aged 20 and ranked 20 in the world, and 31-year-old Rusedski traded serves for 20 games before Rusedski finally capitulated on the third set point.

Victory gave Ancic a world record reward for three sets of tennis.

The battle of the big servers went with serve for the first 19 games before Rusedski, after saving two match points, was beaten by a forehand down the line.

Ancic, the Wimbledon conqueror of Tim Henman, said: "It's been a great year in England for me and right now I'm speechless.

"It's my first tournament win, it isn't an ATP event but it was worth fighting for. I was just concentrating on serving."

Rusedski reflected: "I wish I'd lost in the first round because I wouldn't be feeling so bad now. But Mario served too well and good luck to him."

After beating American Robby Ginepri in the first round, Ancic was involved in a long semi-final when 45-year-old John McEnroe pushed him all the way.

The three-times Wimbledon champion had already handed Britain's latest prospect Andrew Murray a 24-minute masterclass, crushing the recent US Open boys' singles champion 6-1.

Then, revelling in the razzmatazz of sudden-death tennis, he stretched Ancic to 9-7 before finally coming to a double fault.

Both Ancic and Murray admitted they had never met anyone like McEnroe, with the young Croatian conceding: "He played unbelievable tennis. That's the best guy at serve and volley. For one set he is so tough.

"He picked up volleys and half-volleys and showed he is a true legend

Interesting read. Can you post the source?

SATennis
01-31-2007, 09:12 AM
McEnroe came to our college about 5 years ago to open our new facility. A few of us played singles and doubles against him. Who ever thinks he was all about touch and finess and couldn't hit the ball hard, you're wrong. The guy would school any female in the world, any top club player, and probably 98% of the college players out there. The one's that are going to make it on the pro tour would give him a run for his money. Only chance you may have is if you are a fit SOB and you play him best of 35 sets, and hope he quites after schooling you in the first 10 and you can claim the default. Good luck.

What is your rating by the way.

Azzurri
01-31-2007, 12:21 PM
He wasn't a total headcase-- he just looked like one. I've never heard a case where McEnroe lost a match because he tanked, or got frustrated, like I have heard about Roddick. There is one exception, where he was defaulted, but that's not really a head problem, and more a rule-breaking one.

John McEnroe was an expert at making it look like he cared just enough to take a break he wanted, or to intimidate the people he wanted scared. That's not a bad mental game, that's genius, dude.

well said!

Azzurri
01-31-2007, 12:26 PM
Me and my friend were arguing Borg and Federer. I told him today's game is simply just more demanding than it used to be. Players today are much more physical. They're faster, stronger, more flexible, swing harder. Any of today's players would beat any of the players from the 60's. I went on to argue that if I played Macenroe I could compete. Maybe get a few games or make it close. So, if anyone knows Macenroe or if Macenroe reads this write back.

YOU COULDN'T BEAT PAT MCENROE:p

Indy Tennis
01-31-2007, 01:01 PM
Hey Dump Can,

Let me know where you live. I'll find a top-ranked USTA Mens 45 player in your area to set up a match.

After he schools you then maybe you'll get over your delusions of greatness.

jackcrawford
02-01-2007, 05:11 AM
http://www.keepmedia.com/pubs/Tennis/2004/10/01/885947
McEnroe's coauthor on his memoir, a 4.5 player drops a set to John getting only one point. You can buy the match against Ancic or JMac's 6-1 rout of Murray for less than ten bucks from the tennis nexus, a tennis dvd source. There was good money on the line at the superset and neither Murray or Ancic had bank at the time so it was for real.

andreh
02-01-2007, 05:17 AM
I saw Mac play live in 2004's Legends Live tournament in Copehagen. He was really good. I'd say third round of a slam today.

Azzurri
02-01-2007, 07:52 AM
I saw Mac play live in 2004's Legends Live tournament in Copehagen. He was really good. I'd say third round of a slam today.

John still has the game, but not the speed. His game was based on his speed....the guy was fast. His game was never about power, that's why he is still looking good after all these years. Would he make the 3rd round of a major? US Open maybe...French NO....Aus Open.....probably not and Wimby is different since he last played singles. The court is not as fast as it used to be. On a good week he could maybe even make the 4th round, but depends on the draw. Does he face a strong counter-puncher with a big serve ar forehand? He would probably lose. Guys are just so fast and strong today. Mac is a finesse guy. To me Tennis can be very boring to watch these days. I long the days of Becker, Edberg, Lendl, Mac, Connors, Agassi and Pete. Today's players are a bit boring (in their game). Everyone I(besides Fed) looks the same. Maybe that's why he dominates.

Ulam
02-01-2007, 09:01 AM
McEnroe is very entertaining to watch. I would really like to see him play against the top womens player in the world. This would bring new people to tennis without a doubt. McEnroe vs. (Serena, Sharapova, or Henin). McEnroe must give handicap like he has only one ball to serve in each side.

Ash Doyle
02-01-2007, 09:28 AM
I hate to pull this off-topic, but I loved those two SuperSet tennis events. I wish that would have caught on. Since the matches were only one set long the retired guys were still able to compete with the younger current tour players without endurance becoming an issue. Had this caught on, I think the younger fans would have more respect for the older guys.

The last SuperSet event happened in London and was shown on The Tennis Channel and was won by Ancic. The first one happened in America and was won by Ginepri. I remember that one being televised here the US, but I don't remember what network carried it. It wasn't The Tennis Channel...I think it may have been NBC. I remember it was on a Thanksgiving day.

I remember in the second one, who got to choose to serve first wasn't decided by a coin toss. It was decided by who could serve closest to the T. They were given three serves with the proximity to the T being decided by a Hawk-Eye like system. I remember in the match between Rusedski and Ivanisevic the serves of Rusedski were all over the place and not all that close to the T. All three of Ivanisevic's serves were dead on.

AndrewD
02-01-2007, 03:02 PM
John still has the game, but not the speed. Would he make the 3rd round of a major? US Open maybe...French NO....Aus Open.....probably not and Wimby is different since he last played singles.

Sorry, he wouldn't get through qualifying at any of them. Great talent but 47 years old. Martina Navratilova ( a player who kept herself in far better shape than McEnroe) is the obvious comparison. She came back at 46, competed well in doubles but couldn't win in singles. The talent remains the same but the body, no-matter how fit, doesn't. She couldn't handle the power of the younger players, even on grass, and McEnroe would find exactly the same thing in a serious competition.

Anyway, if Mac played a 5 setter it'd take him at least a week to recover for his next match.

andreh
02-01-2007, 11:20 PM
John still has the game, but not the speed. His game was based on his speed....the guy was fast. His game was never about power, that's why he is still looking good after all these years. Would he make the 3rd round of a major? US Open maybe...French NO....Aus Open.....probably not and Wimby is different since he last played singles. The court is not as fast as it used to be. On a good week he could maybe even make the 4th round, but depends on the draw. Does he face a strong counter-puncher with a big serve ar forehand? He would probably lose. Guys are just so fast and strong today. Mac is a finesse guy. To me Tennis can be very boring to watch these days. I long the days of Becker, Edberg, Lendl, Mac, Connors, Agassi and Pete. Today's players are a bit boring (in their game). Everyone I(besides Fed) looks the same. Maybe that's why he dominates.

OK 2nd round, then.

Azzurri
02-03-2007, 03:29 PM
Would he qualify...maybe. Conditions have to be right. 2nd round exit....again...depending on conditions. However....I don't think anyone would disagree if I made this statement:

John Mcenroe is the best 47 year old tennis player in the world!:grin:

Heavy Metal Tennis Star
02-03-2007, 04:43 PM
why would mac play an amateur? he has nothing to prove on that, maybe you can be an amateur that is like 7.0 and beat mac but so? he has his slams you dont.

andreh
02-05-2007, 12:05 AM
Would he qualify...maybe. Conditions have to be right. 2nd round exit....again...depending on conditions. However....I don't think anyone would disagree if I made this statement:

John Mcenroe is the best 47 year old tennis player in the world!:grin:

Alright then, 1st round exit - with a wildcard entry. But that's my final offer :D

Pisolino227
02-06-2007, 08:39 AM
Me and my friend were arguing Borg and Federer. I told him today's game is simply just more demanding than it used to be. Players today are much more physical. They're faster, stronger, more flexible, swing harder. Any of today's players would beat any of the players from the 60's. I went on to argue that if I played Macenroe I could compete. Maybe get a few games or make it close. So, if anyone knows Macenroe or if Macenroe reads this write back.

Please, somebody call the Betty Ford clinic........this person must have some sort of substance abuse problem.

Azzurri
02-06-2007, 01:05 PM
Alright then, 1st round exit - with a wildcard entry. But that's my final offer :D

OK. I just got off the phone with Mac.....he told me to ask you:

"1st round...are you serious?"

stormholloway
02-06-2007, 02:12 PM
McEnroe is beating guys fresh off the tour dude. He would waste you and just about any college player.

This thread has successfully spelled every word wrong in its title. Congrats.

PrinceThunder
02-06-2007, 07:21 PM
Dump can if u can walk to top ten college number one player n beat him 6-0 6-0 and u can win ur state opens with ease then maybe u might have a chance at gettin a game or two of McEnroe....yes he is 47 but is still awesome ......

Brent Pederson
02-07-2007, 05:15 PM
I saw Mac play doubles matches live last year in San Jose with Bjorkman. Although Bjorkman hit harder, Mac won his serve more easily -- no one could touch it! Too much nasty lefty spin. I'd say the only way you'd get a point off him is if he made an unforced error. Otherwise, you're likely to be toast.

topspin kid
02-08-2007, 12:46 PM
id like to play him because come on how many people have a chance to play a legend. Even though i know i will lose i still want to play any pro.

javier sergio
02-08-2007, 01:17 PM
I'm not kidding jerk. I'll take out any 50 yr old man any day. I challenge any 50 yr old man, especially John McEnroe.


I'm 48 years old I live in Miami, call me when you're around !!! ah, I'm a 4.0