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Moose Malloy
02-07-2007, 10:09 AM
This was asked about in another thread recently, can't remember who, but here it is if anyone cares:

McEnroe
75% 1st Serve
35 Winners
2 Unforced Errors
11 Aces
0 Double Faults

Connors
67% 1st Serve
11 Winners
14 Unforced Errors
0 Aces
5 Double Faults

martin
02-07-2007, 10:17 AM
Connors should have switched to a graphite racket. He still would have lost though.

illkhiboy
02-13-2007, 11:41 AM
I am assuming this match was one of those rare occasions when one legend whipped the other so badly. People talk about Sampras killing Agassi at Wimbledon 99 but that was just one service break per set. This was Connors getting murdered.

jaggy
02-13-2007, 11:55 AM
McEnroe on grass back then was very dominant.

The Gorilla
02-13-2007, 12:34 PM
I think it's worth mentioning that connors was 32 years of age, mcenroe was 25.

Moose Malloy
02-13-2007, 12:47 PM
Connors was ranked #3 & was the reigning US Open champion at the time. Not sure if age was really a factor(though Mac did say he didn't think Connors played that well afterwards)

The Gorilla
02-13-2007, 01:13 PM
Connors was ranked #3 & was the reigning US Open champion at the time. Not sure if age was really a factor(though Mac did say he didn't think Connors played that well afterwards)

I think that was just a testament to how good he was, I'd expect federer to be ranked as highly in years to come, even taking into account his natural decline.

stormholloway
02-13-2007, 01:54 PM
Connors won the title in '82. He was hardly over the hill. McEnroe was virtually unstoppable in '84. The credit goes to Mac.

The only man who could stop McEnroe in '84 was McEnroe.

The Gorilla
02-13-2007, 02:22 PM
Connors won the title in '82. He was hardly over the hill. McEnroe was virtually unstoppable in '84. The credit goes to Mac.

The only man who could stop McEnroe in '84 was McEnroe.

Connors wasn't at his peak in '82, it was a triumph of will over age, not unlike Sampras's 2002 US open.

stormholloway
02-13-2007, 02:52 PM
I didn't say he was at his peak, but he went to US Open semifinal in '91, so he was hardly over the hill in '84.

Moose Malloy
02-13-2007, 02:52 PM
Connors wasn't at his peak in '82, it was a triumph of will over age, not unlike Sampras's 2002 US open.

Dude, that's a stretch, Sampras was awful in 2002(or 2001) for that matter. He hadn't won a tournament of any kind since 2000 & was ranked 17 when he won the Open.

Connors was still beating the best in '82 & was consistently ranked top 3, & a slam contender as he always was up to that point in his career. He won 3 majors over a one year period from '82-'83, doesn't sound like someone winding down their career.
I think Connors was a great player, maybe even better than Mac & is underrated, but you're going a bit far with this age thing(now if we were talking about Connors vs Lendl you might have a point with decline/age etc)

Connors at 30/31 >>>>Sampras at 30/31.

Just because Connors probably wasn't as good a grasscourt player as Mac doesn't mean its a slight. I'm not sure Sampras or Federer could take a peak Mac on grass.

The Gorilla
02-13-2007, 03:08 PM
ok, but good as he was, he wasn't as good a player as he was in his prime, mcenroe was right dead in the centre of his.