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illkhiboy
02-25-2007, 02:47 AM
Federer is such a dominant number one, standing head and shoulders above everyone else, that people sometimes forget that number ones in previous years would often be humbled. I am just wondering, how many times number one players have gotten bagelled. I know of two instances:

Haas beat. Agassi 6-0, 6-7, 6-4 (Grand Slam Cup 1999)

Enquist bt. Agassi 6-3, 4-6, 6-0 (Euro Card Open 1999)

I am pretty sure Sampras never got bagelled while at the top. Maybe Hewitt, Rios, Kafelnikov, Rafter, Muster but the chances are low since besides Hewitt none of these stayed at the top for long.

urban
02-25-2007, 04:32 AM
I think, Sampras lost a set o-6 to Kafelnikov at the French open semi 1996.

armand
02-25-2007, 05:16 AM
I think, Sampras lost a set o-6 to Kafelnikov at the French open semi 1996.Good memory. Kafelnikov def. Sampras 7-6(4) 6-0 6-2 1996 French semi. Sampras had an 11-2 head-to-head over Kafelnikov during their playing time.
I thought Sampras had lost another set 6-0 at the French but that was the only example.

vive le beau jeu !
02-25-2007, 05:31 AM
Good memory. Kafelnikov def. Sampras 7-6(4) 6-0 6-2 1996 French semi. Sampras had an 11-2 head-to-head over Kafelnikov during their playing time.
I thought Sampras had lost another set 6-0 at the French but that was the only example.
yes and he was sooo tired after three 5-sets matches ! if he had been fresher, he would certainly had beaten kafelnikov, like he did in the davis cup final in russia, some months before...
(but well... he had to win his previous rounds more easily !)

some others "top bagels" (non-exhaustive list, of course !) :

kuerten got bageled by the same kafelnikov at the 2001 USO while he was being #1.

hewitt got bageled by safin (paris-bercy, 2002) and gonzalez (hambourg, 2003) while at the top.

lendl by becker (sydney, 1986).

wilander by kulti (stockholm, 1988 ) but he still won the match.


etc. etc.

Warriorroger
02-25-2007, 05:34 AM
Steffi Graf who bagelled anyone who breathed has gotten bagelled a couple of times. Which was a surprise, cause she was renowned for playing matches under 50 minutes, that's how dominant she was.

She was bagelled in 1997 by Amanda Coetzer during the Hamburg Open. I think she won just one game. (0/0, 6/1)

She was bagelled by Sanchez Vicario during the French Open twice, 1991 and 1992 (although she won the match in 1992)

She was bagelled by Seles at the US open 1995 (she won the match though).

Lambsscroll
02-25-2007, 05:34 AM
Hewitt and Roddick have been bagelled by Fed. Though they weren't number one at the time.

Warriorroger
02-25-2007, 06:28 AM
Hewitt and Roddick have been bagelled by Fed. Though they weren't number one at the time.

no, that was banged, not bagelled.

babolat15
02-25-2007, 06:40 AM
i know federer got DOUBLE BAGELED his first match

jktennis59
02-25-2007, 08:33 AM
Sampras was bageled by Santoro in a clay tournament, Montecarlo or Rome.

pj80
02-25-2007, 09:30 AM
Sampras was bageled by Santoro in a clay tournament, Montecarlo or Rome.



naw...sampras lost 1-6, 1-6 in monte carlo, however sampras bageled santoro in the next meeting between the two.

LarougeNY
02-25-2007, 11:00 AM
i know federer got DOUBLE BAGELED his first match

NOO He hasn't gotten bageled since he turned pro. That means, he never got bagled on the pro tour.

scineram
02-25-2007, 11:21 AM
NOO

Monte Carlo, Monaco
ATP Masters Series, 19-Apr-99, O, Clay , Draw: 56

R64 Spadea, Vincent (USA) 33 6-7(3) 0-6 Stats


This Event Points: 1, ATP Ranking: 128, Prize Money: US $7,690

Roland Garros, France
Grand Slam, 24-May-99, O, Clay , Draw: 128

R128 Rafter, Patrick (AUS) 3 7-5 3-6 0-6 2-6 Stats


This Event Points: 1, ATP Ranking: 111, Prize Money: US $9,929

London / Queen's Club, England
International Series, 7-Jun-99, O, Grass , Draw: 56

R64 Black, Byron (ZIM) 37 3-6 0-6 Stats


This Event Points: 1, ATP Ranking: 104, Prize Money: US $3,600

LarougeNY
02-25-2007, 11:31 AM
wow. he got bagled by vince spadea. I'm never trusting that crap they say on ESPN anymore.

illkhiboy
02-25-2007, 11:38 AM
^ What did ESPN say?

It's not relevant to the thread if Federer got bagelled before he became number one. Has he gotten bagelled or even lost a 6-1 set since becoming number one?

Nadal beat him 6-1 at the French final. That's all I can recall.

breakfast_of_champions
02-25-2007, 12:13 PM
connors lost to lendl 6-0 6-1, in 1982, prior to beating lendl in the uso finals. can't remember if connors was 1 or 2, though.

BeckerFan
02-25-2007, 01:27 PM
connors lost to lendl 6-0 6-1, in 1982, prior to beating lendl in the uso finals. can't remember if connors was 1 or 2, though.

You must be thinking of his 1-6, 1-6 loss at Cincinnati. Connors was ranked number two at the time, behind McEnroe. Connors took over the number one spot only briefly in 1982, after his US Open win in September ... despite that, almost everyone considered him the unofficial number one that year.

nicktennis19
02-25-2007, 01:29 PM
lindsay davenport double bageled maria sharapova a year or two ago at indian wells or miami, but sharapova wasnt #1 i think

LarougeNY
02-25-2007, 01:44 PM
yeah lindsay was number 1 at the time

Rob_C
02-25-2007, 03:11 PM
Connors got double bageled by Lendl in '84, I'm not sure what his ranking was at the time tho.

jktennis59
02-25-2007, 06:05 PM
naw...sampras lost 1-6, 1-6 in monte carlo, however sampras bageled santoro in the next meeting between the two.

You're right!! but almost a double bagel.

The Grand Slam
02-25-2007, 07:00 PM
Here is a list of World Number 1s who have been bageled and/or breadsticked at any point in their career in which they were ranked inside the top 15.

Roger Federer
2001: Gstaad, Switzerland - R32: Ljubicic, Ivan (CRO) (wld #70); 2-6, 1-6
FEDERER'S RANKING AT TIME: 15

2001: US Open, NY, USA - R16: Agassi, Andre (USA) (wld #2); 1-6, 2-6, 4-6
FEDERER'S RANKING AT TIME: 13

2002: Milan, Italy - F: Sanguinetti, Davide (ITA) (wld #87); 6-7(2), 6-4, 1-6
FEDERER'S RANKING AT TIME: 13

2002: Dubai, UAE - R16: Schuettler, Rainer (GER) (wld #40); 3-6, 1-6
FEDERER'S RANKING AT TIME: 14

2002: Monte Carlo TMS, Monaco - R32: Nalbandian, David (ARG) (wld #35); 2-6, 1-6
FEDERER'S RANKING AT TIME: 11

2002: Hamburg TMS, Germany - QF: Kuerten, Gustavo (BRA) (wld #7); 6-0, 1-6, 6-2
FEDERER'S RANKING AT TIME: 14

2002: Long Island, NY, USA - R32: Massu, Nicolas (CHI) (wld #65); 7-6(5), 1-6, 3-6
FEDERER'S RANKING AT TIME: 13

2003: Australian Open, Australia - R16: Nalbandian, David (ARG) (wld #12); 4-6, 6-3, 1-6, 6-1, 3-6
FEDERER'S RANKING AT TIME: 6

2003: Davis Cup WG SF, Melbourne, Australia - RR: Hewitt, Lleyton (AUS) (wld #7); 7-5, 6-2, 6-7(4), 5-7, 1-6
FEDERER'S RANKING AT TIME: 3

2003: Paris TMS, France - QF: Henman, Tim (GBR) (wld #31); 6-7(5), 1-6
FEDERER'S RANKING AT TIME: 3

2005: Tennis Masters Cup, Shanghai, China - RR: Coria, Guillermo (ARG) (wld #6); 6-0, 1-6, 6-2
FEDERER'S RANKING AT TIME: 1

2005: Tennis Masters Cup, Shanghai, China - F: Nalbandian, David (ARG) (wld #12); 7-6(4), 7-6(11), 2-6, 1-6 6-7(3)
FEDERER'S RANKING AT TIME: 1

2006: Roland Garros, France - F: Nadal, Rafael (ESP) (wld #2); 6-1, 1-6, 4-6, 6-7(4)
FEDERER'S RANKING AT TIME: 1

To be continued...

breakfast_of_champions
02-25-2007, 08:41 PM
Connors got double bageled by Lendl in '84, I'm not sure what his ranking was at the time tho.

right, that was the beginning of connors descent, athough connors beat him in thier next match at wimbledon. connors was not #1.

larlarbd
02-25-2007, 10:45 PM
ahahahaha , Well Said , Well Said Indeed.

ne1410is
02-25-2007, 10:58 PM
my memory of bagels is that sometimes players (esp men's) will just tank certain sets as a strategy. if they are exhausted, there is no way they will win the next set so they just dog it while they recover and then kill em off in the next set. i remember it being discussed about sampras at least once in wimbledon. usually works in best of 5 matches. but i got that impression during the graf seles match in 95...

bluetrain4
02-25-2007, 11:57 PM
Seles lost to Hingis and one of the sets was 6-0. I think it was at the Nasdaq or one of those early season green clay court tourneys in the late 1990s.

FedFan_2007
02-26-2007, 12:40 AM
SO Fed has never been bageled since turning pro? Another amazing Fed-God stat.

vive le beau jeu !
02-26-2007, 01:49 AM
Connors got double bageled by Lendl in '84, I'm not sure what his ranking was at the time tho.
i have always been wondering about this amazing result : lendl destroying (his great friend) connors... which was such a fighter !
did anybody see the match ?...

Rob_C
02-26-2007, 03:49 AM
i have always been wondering about this amazing result : lendl destroying (his great friend) connors... which was such a fighter !
did anybody see the match ?...

I just remember it was at Forest Hills on Har-Tru.

breakfast_of_champions
02-26-2007, 07:38 AM
i have always been wondering about this amazing result : lendl destroying (his great friend) connors... which was such a fighter !
did anybody see the match ?...

ya, it was an early season match on clay. connors was clearly off form, while lendl was entering his prime, and was on form.

larlarbd
02-26-2007, 08:12 AM
Ahh , another feat that Roger will achieve this year . FED will get bageled not once but straight three sets 6-0 , 6-0 , 6-0 by Safin , that'll silence all of You FED-critics . lolz.

Moose Malloy
02-26-2007, 11:59 AM
my memory of bagels is that sometimes players (esp men's) will just tank certain sets as a strategy. if they are exhausted, there is no way they will win the next set so they just dog it while they recover and then kill em off in the next set.

True, but this strategy seemed a bit more common in the 70s/90s. Connors & Borg used to do this quite a bit. I've heard Ashe/Drysdale talk about this strategy in commentary during many matches in the 80s. Players seem to go all out begining to end in all matches nowadays. I've noticed a high amount or retirements during best of 5 matches in recent years, I don't think players are pacing themselves over long matches like they used to.

i have always been wondering about this amazing result : lendl destroying (his great friend) connors... which was such a fighter !
did anybody see the match ?...

The day after beating Connors at Forest Hills, Lendl lost to Mac 64, 62(which I did see) I wouldn't read too much into it, Lendl beat Connors 61,61 a few weeks before losing him to him in the '82 US Open final. And later in 1984 Connors beat Lendl 64,36,60. Lendl-Connors was a very strange rivalry, imo, not a lot of good matches, & an unusual amount of 6-0 sets by both players.

Also, as great a fighter Connors was, if he wasn't feeling 100%, many times he would go into the tank or retire or get himself defaulted(he's retired in quite a lot of matches, more than many would think, considering his reputation of being mentally & physically tough)

Here is the list of all #1's week by week in atp history, if anyone wants to look further into bagel sets. I don't think Mac was ever bageled as #1.
http://www.tennis28.com/rankings/weeks_No1.html
Here is a bagel Borg got at #1(great match,btw)
1981 Wimbledon SF
Borg d Connors 0-6 4-6 6-3 6-0 6-4

wildbill88AA
02-26-2007, 12:20 PM
connors matches like the lendl drubbing happened mostly when he was past his prime, and 29+. not like he could resort to s & v tennis.

an old pro trick, is if the 1st set appears lost, is to simply tank and get your opponent to let up, then turn it on in the 2nd set.

and vilas bageled connors 6-0 in the 4th set at the uso in 1977, i believe.