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andres epson
02-27-2007, 06:38 PM
i would like to know which is the diference (in the technique) between the two hand backhand execute by safin, coria, agassi, and nalbandian where they make like an u and the backhand execute by chang, massu where they bring their backhand just from below. Thank you chao


pd: which one is better???

LarougeNY
02-27-2007, 07:12 PM
first of all Safin and Nalby have very VERY different 2hbhs. Nalbandian keeps his arms stiff before contact and then just uncoils them during contact whereas Safin's arms are bent and hugging his body before contact. It was in Tennis magazine, except they were comparing Connors and Safin. Nalby and Conners have similar BHs except conners is lefty.

Bungalo Bill
02-27-2007, 07:25 PM
first of all Safin and Nalby have very VERY different 2hbhs. Nalbandian keeps his arms stiff before contact and then just uncoils them during contact whereas Safin's arms are bent and hugging his body before contact. It was in Tennis magazine, except they were comparing Connors and Safin. Nalby and Conners have similar BHs except conners is lefty.

On the twohanded backhand, one must be careful in using the word "STIFF". The twohanded is not hit with stiff tight arms. Some players hit with extended arms ad because most pro players are muscular it looks like they are tightening down their arms. This is misleading until you study slo-mo film.

When you have film like this to study, you will actually see their arms relaxed but straightened. Hewitt is a prime example.

When a player tightens their arms they will tend to lose racquet head speed. The twohanded backhand needs to be executed with relaxed but purposeful arms. They participate in brining the racquet to the ball in different degrees and timing.

TonLars
02-27-2007, 09:12 PM
On the twohanded backhand, one must be careful in using the word "STIFF". The twohanded is not hit with stiff tight arms. Some players hit with extended arms ad because most pro players are muscular it looks like they are tightening down their arms. This is misleading until you study slo-mo film.

When you have film like this to study, you will actually see their arms relaxed but straightened. Hewitt is a prime example.

When a player tightens their arms they will tend to lose racquet head speed. The twohanded backhand needs to be executed with relaxed but purposeful arms. They participate in brining the racquet to the ball in different degrees and timing.

Great post. Seeing this can be very misleading for some players trying to immitate good form. My backhand is similar to Hewitts and I can attest it is definitely relaxed as opposed to tight

andres epson
02-28-2007, 07:45 AM
ok, but which is the diference between the backhand that makes all the movement (like an u) and the one that comes from below.


http://www.advantage-tennis.com/nalbandian/index.php?ind=50

http://www.advantage-tennis.com/safin/index.php?ind=19

http://www.advantage-tennis.com/rios/index.php?ind=6


http://www.cincytennis.com/en/assets/photos/rx/chang21876_rx.jpg

Bungalo Bill
02-28-2007, 06:42 PM
ok, but which is the diference between the backhand that makes all the movement (like an u) and the one that comes from below.


http://www.advantage-tennis.com/nalbandian/index.php?ind=50

http://www.advantage-tennis.com/safin/index.php?ind=19

http://www.advantage-tennis.com/rios/index.php?ind=6


http://www.cincytennis.com/en/assets/photos/rx/chang21876_rx.jpg

The difference primarily falls in the "preference" area. Some players can actually simulate a forehand with their stroke. Those are usually the players that take the racquet back more up then down.

There may be slight differences in racquet head speed, timing, and the ball they are hitting. Some players do both. They drop the racquet to whip up on the ball for short-angles while the other drives through the ball with the U shape you are referring too.

Bottom-line, tophand is heavily involved.

blue03
03-01-2007, 12:24 AM
i'm thinking of changing to 2hbh from 1hbh. my 1hbh is not consistence. should i practice more on my 1hbh or should i ask my coach to teach me the 2hbh?

i'm in a great dilemma now..pls enlighten me on this. :)

Bungalo Bill
03-01-2007, 09:00 PM
i'm thinking of changing to 2hbh from 1hbh. my 1hbh is not consistence. should i practice more on my 1hbh or should i ask my coach to teach me the 2hbh?

i'm in a great dilemma now..pls enlighten me on this. :)

It really is up to you but you need to decide. The twohander is going to take about 3-6 months before you start seeing good consistent results. So, if you decide to make the switch, you will need to be patient once again! In other words, having so much failure in the backhand stroke wil really test your patience.

Once you decide, set a goal that you will not look back.

shindemac
03-02-2007, 08:00 AM
I've got all new strokes so I feel like a beginner again. It can be tough to generate power, but I learned being relax really makes a difference for my backhand. For my forehand, it's possible to muscle it and still get decent power so you don't really notice if you're tight or not. For my bh, it's the difference between a short ball and a good deep ball.