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iwannabecomefamous
02-28-2007, 09:08 PM
does the private coaches teach the student how to serve the ball and stuff and show them techniques?
im just asking because im planning to hire one this weekend
Voltron
02-28-2007, 09:13 PM
Yeah, that's what a coach does. Exactly what a coach does actually.
TonLars
02-28-2007, 09:15 PM
ummmmmmmm...
Sorry, but yeah thats their job. What else would they do, lol? Yeah they will work on whatever you request, unless you just booked a hitting session with someone. Coaches should "coach"
Solat
02-28-2007, 09:42 PM
you are the customer, the coach should provide you with the service you require
tarheels2323
03-01-2007, 01:00 AM
If you're really looking for someone to sit there and read a magazine while you hit and just say things like, "ah huh, good," then feel free to pay me $50 an hour for a few hours. If you're really lucky, I might even sleep through the whole session.
goober
03-01-2007, 05:32 AM
If you're really looking for someone to sit there and read a magazine while you hit and just say things like, "ah huh, good," then feel free to pay me $50 an hour for a few hours. If you're really lucky, I might even sleep through the whole session.
You would be amazed at how many instructors just go through the motions and just feed balls with minimal teaching or just have a set mantra- "bend your knees, hit through the ball, good one" They may as well be reading a magazine.
Cindysphinx
03-01-2007, 07:16 AM
You should show up with some idea what you want to work on, but your pro should probably hit with you a bit and observe where you are on your shots. Then you could ask her opinion on what is weak and use that input to decide your focus.
When I first started taking lessons, I was convinced that my backhand was the problem. My pro convinced me that my mechanics on my forehand were much worse, and that is where we have spent most of our time.
JCo872
03-01-2007, 03:51 PM
You would be amazed at how many instructors just go through the motions and just feed balls with minimal teaching or just have a set mantra- "bend your knees, hit through the ball, good one" They may as well be reading a magazine.
Yes. Very true. However there is a guy that teaches where I play. If you are in the Northern VA area you should see him. He does the same thing in every lesson. He pegs the ball at you as hard he can. For an hour. He says it develops "superior" timing.
tricky
03-01-2007, 04:04 PM
If you find a coach who uses video with you, you have found a good coach. (Learning curve accelerates by at least one magnitude if you have constant video feedback and visual cues to work with.) This is unfortunately very rare and expensive. :(
iwannabecomefamous
03-01-2007, 09:31 PM
what does he mean bout the video thing? like recording how i play and playin it over?
If you find a coach who uses video with you, you have found a good coach. (Learning curve accelerates by at least one magnitude if you have constant video feedback and visual cues to work with.) This is unfortunately very rare and expensive
JCo872
03-02-2007, 06:55 AM
If you find a coach who uses video with you, you have found a good coach. (Learning curve accelerates by at least one magnitude if you have constant video feedback and visual cues to work with.) This is unfortunately very rare and expensive. :(
Exactly. Here is the reason why. Traditional lessons involve the instructor feeding balls from very far away and talking to you. I have always wondered how a teacher can really see what his student is doing from that far away, from one straight on angle, while he is feeding balls, and talking. When I watch this kind of lesson I often have a better vantage point of the student because I can see them from different angles and can see things the instructor can't see.
When I teach I have someone else feed balls or I get a ball machine. I am right next to the player, and I have printouts of reference points that need to be met. I am also running the video camera so we can stop after about 15 minutes, look at the tape, and see which reference points aren't being met. I look at the stroke from several angles.
The results have been fantastic. It speeds up the learning process and gets rid of the confusion of too much verbal chatter. It lets the player think more in pictures and reference points than in translating amibiguous comments like "step into the ball" or "prepare earlier". And rather than me be the "guru" coach who knows everything, the real "coach" is the reference points and my ability to see whether they are being met and how the timing of the stroke looks.
I think traditional teaching places way too much emphasis on the authority of the coach. It is the learner who needs to be more empowered so that he has mental images and physical reference points to meet. And he/she needs to be able to experiment to find them. The traditional model is I say do A and you must do A. Then I say do B and you must do B. But people learn in much more visual and experimental ways.
Just my 2 cents.
Mike Cottrill
03-02-2007, 07:10 AM
Yes. Very true. However there is a guy that teaches where I play. If you are in the Northern VA area you should see him. He does the same thing in every lesson. He pegs the ball at you as hard he can. For an hour. He says it develops "superior" timing.
Jeff, has Robby Ginepri moved to your area? I hear he likes to have a hopper of balls in side the base line and smash them at you as hard as he can with you at the net. He even demonstrated it on the Spike TV's "PROS vs. JOES". Great for the "superior" timing and how to protect your manhood. :shock:
JRstriker12
03-02-2007, 07:40 AM
Yes. Very true. However there is a guy that teaches where I play. If you are in the Northern VA area you should see him. He does the same thing in every lesson. He pegs the ball at you as hard he can. For an hour. He says it develops "superior" timing.
JC872 - where are you in North VA?
I am out in Herndon.
JCo872
03-02-2007, 08:51 AM
Jeff, has Robby Ginepri moved to your area? I hear he likes to have a hopper of balls in side the base line and smash them at you as hard as he can with you at the net. He even demonstrated it on the Spike TV's "PROS vs. JOES". Great for the "superior" timing and how to protect your manhood. :shock:
LOL. I'd like to see Ginepri do that do the coach I'm talking about...
JCo872
03-02-2007, 08:52 AM
JC872 - where are you in North VA?
I am out in Herndon.
Very close - Alexandria. I used to teach in Herndon many years ago. Shoot me an emal: mail@hi-techtennis.com
Jeff
JRstriker12
03-02-2007, 09:02 AM
Very close - Alexandria. I used to teach in Herndon many years ago. Shoot me an emal: mail@hi-techtennis.com
Jeff
Cool. Just dropped you an e-mail.
JR
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