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max
03-08-2007, 09:03 AM
I guess that's my question. I would think that after playing, I'd relax in a hotel room with a cool drink and either the TV or the internet hookup.

raiden031
03-08-2007, 09:30 AM
I don't really understand this myself. People might say they are too busy. But the average person, at least in america, is extremely busy, yet still has time to have an online presence. I would think even with all the traveling, they would probably bring a laptop and have some wireless ethernet in their hotel rooms. If regular people enjoy the internet/chat/forums so much, you'd think celebrities and pro athletes would as well.

Condoleezza
03-08-2007, 10:56 AM
I guess that's my question. I would think that after playing, I'd relax in a hotel room with a cool drink and either the TV or the internet hookup.

:D :D
You are joking, no?
The tennis knowledge here is abysmal ...

Condi

jamauss
03-08-2007, 01:16 PM
:D :D
You are joking, no?
The tennis knowledge here is abysmal ...

Condi
Bingo.

They are some exceptions to this rule but generally speaking...I agree.

bad_call
03-08-2007, 01:22 PM
how do u know they don't? oh yeah they may be cruising other sites.

chaz_233
03-08-2007, 01:26 PM
Public figures have a different social life than you and I.
In other countries the Internet doesn't play such an important role in people's lives as it does for Americans who don't a have a clue what it means to live in community.
There's probably some legal issues, too. Given that so many Americans are on boards like these that automatically increases the chance of being sued. "Fed told me to do/buy/try this or that and I got hurt/disappointed/injured/different/unexepted results and my greedy=lawyer told me I can sue for millions"

JRstriker12
03-08-2007, 01:50 PM
10 Reasons Why Pros Don't Post Here:

1. I don't know, maybe they are practicing and training?

2. Living like a tennis star can be tiring - you know all the women, cars, clothes, clubbing. Probably rather sleep to save energy for when the next supermodel calls than talk to a bunch of 3.5 hacks.

3. Can't always get a internet connection while spending most of thier hours traveling from tournament to tournament in planes, cars, trains, etc.

4. If Roger Federer or any other pro posted here, who would actually believe that Roger Federer was posting on TT?

Federer1- It's really me guys. Since you guys want to know what I am playing with, I wanted to tell you that I am really using the K-Factor now. No paint job.

Deskjocky32- No way. Get the **** out of here. I don't have time for sockpuppets like you. Now 10isLover456, what racket do you think Federer is REALLY using? Any picts?

5. TT is connected to a online tennis store. If I was a pro, I'd want $$$ to make an appearance on that store's chat boards.

6. Since they aren't chained to a desk 8 hours a day and hopefully love what they do, they don't need to go online to talk to people. They can actually get up and go somewhere and sit around the pool with a beer and hang with thier peeps.

7. One poster who shall not be named and his mystical customization tips for creating a racket that can make you as good as any pro.

8. Too busy playing virtua tennis on this 100" HDTV

9. They don't post, but lurk in the Tennis Tips/ Instruction Section.

10. I am a pro and a post here all the time!!!! ;)

max
03-08-2007, 02:09 PM
I guess I'm misunderstood. The top 20 or top 50 are mostly on the go; I'm thinking the top 300 might have some possible posters.

It may be true that much of the TW site would be considered banal.

TGV
03-08-2007, 02:16 PM
I have read somewhere that Curt Schilling, a famous baseball player, is a regular poster on Sons of Sam Horn, a Red Sox fan forum.

laurie
03-09-2007, 05:10 AM
Players who have their official websites like Amelie Mauresmo and Tim Henman and Roger Federer check out their forums. Both players also have a question and answer session from fans in their forums.

The website I built for Svetlana Kuznetsova - she regularly visits because its a joint venture with her agent.

As for a website like Tennis Warehouse, Why not? I think people may be surprised that they would visit but of course they would log on as guests so we would never feel their presence - but it happens.

malakas
03-09-2007, 05:20 AM
I agree with Laurie.Many may just read it but not post it.I know that Tursunov reads MTF,but for TW I dunno..

laurie
03-09-2007, 05:33 AM
By the way, this is the site I built if anyone wants to have a look:

http://www.svetlanakuznetsovasite.com

malakas
03-09-2007, 05:50 AM
Thanx for the link Laurie.:)

Ripper
03-09-2007, 06:33 AM
Why is it so difficult to believe that some top pros come here anonimously? How in the world could we know if Roger Federer, himself, hasn't been here and, even, posted. I mean, I'm sure they could care less about most of what we talk about here, but the fact is we just would never know. So, don't be so sure ;)

spadesss
03-12-2007, 10:44 AM
1) They are busy counting there millions $$$$$$$$$$
2) Trying to figure out game plan Z on how to beat Fed or 1H.
If you are Fed or 1H, trying to figure out how to stay unbeatable for the rest of the year.
3) There might be a better site than TT that we don't know about. And they are chatting over there instead.
4) Have better things to do like practice and practice some more on the court?

Dude
03-12-2007, 02:42 PM
In response to:

"3) There might be a better site than TT that we don't know about. And they are chatting over there instead." --

Top college players and lower ranked pro players chat on other websites that don't discuss things like equipment and technique, but instead discuss issues like rankings, travel, player development, coaching, etc.

raiden031
03-12-2007, 02:46 PM
1) They are busy counting there millions $$$$$$$$$$
2) Trying to figure out game plan Z on how to beat Fed or 1H.
If you are Fed or 1H, trying to figure out how to stay unbeatable for the rest of the year.
3) There might be a better site than TT that we don't know about. And they are chatting over there instead.
4) Have better things to do like practice and practice some more on the court?

Its not like they practice for 18 hours a day. Most of us have real jobs that we might spend 8-12 hours doing something away from this website, and we still have time to come on here.

Gundam
03-13-2007, 03:04 PM
:D :D
You are joking, no?
The tennis knowledge here is abysmal ...

Condi

A real bio-scientist would laugh at the 'Jurassic park' movies.
Astranauts would not waste their time watching 'Space cowboys'.
At least they wouldn't take it seriously.

vudal
03-13-2007, 03:20 PM
Why is it so difficult to believe that some top pros come here anonimously? How in the world could we know if Roger Federer, himself, hasn't been here and, even, posted. I mean, I'm sure they could care less about most of what we talk about here, but the fact is we just would never know. So, don't be so sure ;)

I'm sure Roger has. Hes probably one of the posters that made excuses for the recent lose to Canas.

ollinger
03-13-2007, 03:46 PM
I never watch medical shows on TV when I come home from work and I don't imagine too many of them want to shmooze tennis when they're done practicing. If I DID want to talk medicine with others, I'd do it with my peers, not (and here's the equivalent of TW posters) a bunch of pre-med college students.

Phil
03-14-2007, 02:36 AM
Why would someone who spends his/her life practicing and playing tennis want to spend their free time TALKING about tennis with a bunch of tennis geeks? I wouldn't, if I were a pro. Geez, get some perspective, OP...think about it.

Joeyg
03-14-2007, 08:51 AM
Phil has hit it on the head. Most of the Tour players that I have spoken with have very little interest in what the geeks on the boards seem to discuss and debate endlessly! Do you think a pro welder goes home and goes to the welding site and discusses the best type of welding rod to use? Give me a break! Pro tennis players have a VERY narrow focus, and if they didn't they wouldn't be where they are.

max
03-14-2007, 09:40 AM
Ah, that's a good point! I think that may very well explain it.

max
03-14-2007, 09:44 AM
. . . or it may not. For most players, it likely does: they're tired of tennis and want to do something else. But some pros may very well want to get involved on a discussion board, to learn new things, etc.

I'm kind of struck by the hostility of Phil here to the OP. I'm genuine in this inquiry, and it deserves the kind of respect you'd give anyone asking a sincere question.

Ronaldo
03-14-2007, 09:53 AM
I guess that's my question. I would think that after playing, I'd relax in a hotel room with a cool drink and either the TV or the internet hookup.

A blonde tall cool drink of sunshine sounds more relaxing, or a jet-ski, eh?

JRstriker12
03-14-2007, 01:22 PM
. . . or it may not. For most players, it likely does: they're tired of tennis and want to do something else. But some pros may very well want to get involved on a discussion board, to learn new things, etc.

I'm kind of struck by the hostility of Phil here to the OP. I'm genuine in this inquiry, and it deserves the kind of respect you'd give anyone asking a sincere question.

What could a pro learn here on the message boards that they couldn't learn by talking to other pros, coaches, fitness trainiers, dieticians, and the professional stringers/racket techs, etc on the tour?

Those guys are surounded by tennis so they don't need to go online. We come here because we see other people who share our same hobby and the guy in the cube next to you is more likely to prefer football or NASCAR.

laurie
03-16-2007, 06:01 AM
Putting aside forums like this one, why would players have official forums if they don't see what their own fans write from time to time? Forums like Henman's, Federer's and Mauresmo's have question and answer sessions from registered members. I'm registered to Mauresmo's site and have sent questions.

Much lower ranked players may have some sort of outlet. 1984 Wimbledon finalist Chris Lewis contributed to a forum recently in response to something he had read. That was well documented.

Dunlopkid
03-16-2007, 06:18 AM
. . . or it may not. For most players, it likely does: they're tired of tennis and want to do something else. But some pros may very well want to get involved on a discussion board, to learn new things, etc.

I'm kind of struck by the hostility of Phil here to the OP. I'm genuine in this inquiry, and it deserves the kind of respect you'd give anyone asking a sincere question.

You're struck by PHIL'S hostility huh? And you've been a TW member since 2004?

Fee
03-18-2007, 05:20 PM
Based on what I've seen and the people I've spoken to about this... it is entirely possible that more than one active pro player has perused this board, but I sincerely doubt that any have registered or posted here. Some reportedly read MTF, but none have posted there either.

I know that Jan-Mike has looked at this forum exactly once because I gave him the link to the thread that asked about his academy in Hawaii. He looked at his old messageboard no more than three times, mainly because he didn't really care what was said there, he knew I would tell him if there was anything important, and he didn't want anyone to feel self conscious about speaking freely to other fans. He posted there once to thank his fans for a Christmas gift.

The players that I know or have seen that carry laptops with them (most of them) can usually be found playing online poker, tracking their fantasy football teams, checking their facebook/myspace pages, playing video games (more than a few WoW nerds), making travel arrangements on every travel site known to man, reading the news 'back home' if they are not from the US, or keeping up on music and music videos. I've seen some that use MSN/Yahoo/AIM more than any of my friends and I do. Yes, they do have a lot of down time, but as someone said earlier, they play tennis all day long and talking about it all night is just about the last thing they want to do.

laurie
03-18-2007, 05:53 PM
You make some very good observations Fee.

zapvor
03-18-2007, 06:27 PM
10 Reasons Why Pros Don't Post Here:

1. I don't know, maybe they are practicing and training?

2. Living like a tennis star can be tiring - you know all the women, cars, clothes, clubbing. Probably rather sleep to save energy for when the next supermodel calls than talk to a bunch of 3.5 hacks.

3. Can't always get a internet connection while spending most of thier hours traveling from tournament to tournament in planes, cars, trains, etc.

4. If Roger Federer or any other pro posted here, who would actually believe that Roger Federer was posting on TT?

Federer1- It's really me guys. Since you guys want to know what I am playing with, I wanted to tell you that I am really using the K-Factor now. No paint job.

Deskjocky32- No way. Get the **** out of here. I don't have time for sockpuppets like you. Now 10isLover456, what racket do you think Federer is REALLY using? Any picts?

5. TT is connected to a online tennis store. If I was a pro, I'd want $$$ to make an appearance on that store's chat boards.

6. Since they aren't chained to a desk 8 hours a day and hopefully love what they do, they don't need to go online to talk to people. They can actually get up and go somewhere and sit around the pool with a beer and hang with thier peeps.

7. One poster who shall not be named and his mystical customization tips for creating a racket that can make you as good as any pro.

8. Too busy playing virtua tennis on this 100" HDTV

9. They don't post, but lurk in the Tennis Tips/ Instruction Section.

10. I am a pro and a post here all the time!!!! ;)

hahahah loved the list.

Joeyg
03-19-2007, 10:13 AM
Just wanted to reiterate that no one on these boards can post anything about tennis that a current ATP pro would deem useful. I find it laughable that some posters with an NTRP level of whatever would think they are capable of giving out sound advice to a professional. Although, I know some of the peanut gallery out there suspect that they are indeed ready to coach on the ATP tour. I think these are the same 4.0 guys who think if they play well, that they can take games from a pro.

Ace
03-19-2007, 10:19 AM
What do you mean?
Roger Federer posts here regularly under the user name "Bottle", and he has been trying to tell us how to replicate his forehand for months.

oscar_2424
03-19-2007, 10:59 AM
I guess that's my question. I would think that after playing, I'd relax in a hotel room with a cool drink and either the TV or the internet hookup.

Because they have a life and we dont:(

PurePrestige
03-19-2007, 03:35 PM
Pro's get plenty of online time I feel like. If you read Tursunov's blog he was saying that Safina had the time to download nearly every song on the web, and that Safin downloaded his own blockbuster worth of movies. Not only that, but Monfils was constantly playing music and messaging on MSN.

It sounds like they have just as much time for the net as we do, but I mean. What do they have to interest them on these boards...Fed's specs...nice.

theace21
03-19-2007, 04:44 PM
Phil said it the best - go re-read post 21!

Zets147
03-19-2007, 06:03 PM
9. They don't post, but lurk in the Tennis Tips/ Instruction Section.


It sounds like they have just as much time for the net as we do, but I mean. What do they have to interest them on these boards...Fed's specs...nice.

HAHAHAHAHAHA Awesome.

krprunitennis2
03-19-2007, 06:23 PM
:D :D
You are joking, no?
The tennis knowledge here is abysmal ...

Condi

=D Still it's great comedy. Anyways, they can even give out some pointers.


But then...if they join...:

1. No one would probably believe them.

2. If they say something bad,...media.

SB
03-20-2007, 02:39 PM
Martina Navratilova, Conchita Martinez, and Steffi Graf's mother used to post occasionally on the AOL tennis board about 10 years ago (in the case of Heidi Graf, even more recently, maybe 8 years ago). And yes, their identities were confirmed.

It was fairly interesting, actually. Then someone hacked the email of either Conchita or Martina, maybe both, and they quit. I think Graf quit because certain posters thought it was a good idea to harass her. MN1956 was Navratilova's name, and I can't remember Martinez's. It might have had to do with a dog or pet of some sort. And Graf's was her grandson's name.

tennis_nerd22
03-20-2007, 02:40 PM
what do you mean pro's dont post here... IM HERE :D

LOL just kidding... but ill bet some of them do, but they dont say it.

christo
03-21-2007, 09:58 AM
I have read somewhere that Curt Schilling, a famous baseball player, is a regular poster on Sons of Sam Horn, a Red Sox fan forum.

wasn't Sam Horn a legendary porn star?

s_andrean
03-21-2007, 12:10 PM
I'm sure a few of them come on here, but as lurkers rather than posters.

Pleepers
03-26-2007, 02:53 PM
In response to:

"3) There might be a better site than TT that we don't know about. And they are chatting over there instead." --

Top college players and lower ranked pro players chat on other websites that don't discuss things like equipment and technique, but instead discuss issues like rankings, travel, player development, coaching, etc.

I'd like to know of this site? What is it?

AndrewD
03-26-2007, 04:52 PM
I can just imagine guys like Nadal or girls like Cjlisters logging on, only to be told by the 'experts' in the Racquets forum that their opinions aren't valid and they aren't particularly good players because they use a 'tweener'.

Clive Walker
03-31-2007, 01:01 PM
Actually it wouldn't surprise me hugely if there were 1 or 2 pros who browse these online forums/fora/forai??? occasionally. However I'm not sure there is too much to learn for one from them.

I am a forum regular on a UK guitar forum and there are certainly 1 or 2 pro players who post regularly (it is a very strong community there though). To name drop, Paul Gilbert(hands up if you have heard of him) has posted there on occasion although it was for a very specific reason.

Hotels are very lonely places and I suspect that many pros spend their evenings on Playstations/Net etc.

beernutz
04-01-2007, 01:06 PM
This forum is a commercial venture. It is designed to direct business to TW. If I was a pro, I would want compensation from TW to regularly read and post here. It would really not be much different than any other kind of sponsorship arrangement. You pay the pro, they push your product.

Buckeye10s
04-01-2007, 02:25 PM
Maybe they do... Like in The Incredibles they are supers living among us...

lethalfang
04-01-2007, 03:14 PM
They might have visited or even posted here, but they probably want to stay anonymous. Every word uttered to a reporter can be taken out of context and ripped apart, and even worse on the 'net.
Robert Gates posed as a regular Texas A&M fan on a Aggies message board when he was the chancellor there, an online identity he revealed when he took the secretary of defense job.

Zets147
04-01-2007, 03:20 PM
Anyone wanna buy some Federbears for my charity? o.O

Fee
04-01-2007, 03:47 PM
some of you might find this interesting

http://www.brian-wilson.blogspot.com/

beernutz
04-01-2007, 07:51 PM
some of you might find this interesting

http://www.brian-wilson.blogspot.com/

Man that is hilarious stuff, thanks so much for posting that link.

BTW, like in your sig, I love the ignore list feature too. LOVE IT!~

Here is a sample of some of Brian's funny stuff (paragraphs added by me and I fixed one transpo error):

We got to the aiport at 415 and I stumbled out of the car with my loads of luggage all but defeated and thinking I would have to buy another flight at the airport. I ran straight to the Condor (budget German airline) counter and laid on the please and thank yous as thick as possible.

I also said I had to be in europe asap as I was to be playing in a huge tennis tournament which was being televised all over and it would not be complete without me, yes me. For some reason they do not adhere to the 60 minutes before flight, check in is closed for international travel. So without breaking out some cash to bribe the little old lady fumbling with my passport and paper ticket she got me a middle seat direct to Frankfurt (middle whoopee).

At this point I didn't really care, so I sprinted upstairs with my racquets in tow and made the fairly short security line. I made it through, but I forgot to see the four large letter s's on my boarding card, special screening for me (whoopee!).

So it was 435 and this guy was going through all my electronics trying to figure out what they were. "Son, what is this for?" I replied, " Well that is for entertainment, to keep me company on my 12 hour flight to Frankfurt, (cough) if I make it, that is." What are they for? What do you think they are for, having fun, being entertained, passing the time, not for cooking eggs or stringing my tennis rackets thank you very much!

So, I made the flight and had a whole row to myself, thanks to that little old lady at the desk! I stretched out and got out the electronics to get me through the flight as we took off. This was all too easy I thought, so a baby behind started to wail like he had swallowed some spicy curry of sort.

This went on for about 80% of the flight and the mother seemed to think it was all ok, and didn't really bother to think much of it. Also, the baby's jump kicking my seat didn't seem to bother her, but why would it, it was only my neck being catupulted back and forward every 90 seconds. Well, at least that kid will be the next chuck norris, eating indian food between takes of his action movie or something.

Fee
04-01-2007, 09:03 PM
Amer Delic's is good too. It's on his website (www.amerdelic.com (http://www.amerdelic.com)).

beernutz
04-02-2007, 12:15 PM
Amer Delic's is good too. It's on his website (www.amerdelic.com (http://www.amerdelic.com)).

Thanks, that one is good too. He even picked Florida over Georgetown in the NCAA Bball finals before the tourney started so he has some bracketeering skills as well.

samizram
04-10-2007, 10:54 PM
Why don't pro players post here?

I don't really understand this myself.

What a screamer! I missed it an came upon it in a SERP. Wow! You guys are that far gone, eh?

And to the anti-American: "Community"? Is is it European "community" that results in all those homeless WORKING beggars littering the streets of Europe? They starve and freeze on the sidewalks with crowds of "humanitarian" Euros walking by and looking the other way. Community?

Yes, ladies and gentlemen, we have beggars decorating the grand streets of Europe again. And Euros call giving them pup-tents to hide their human faces "community."

Or is it that whenever Euros might see one of their sins, they reflexively project it off onto the Great Scapegoat instead? Does that make you boys and girls feel better about yourselves?

Was it a "community" that let 15,000 French people perish in a mere heat wave because it was mass vacation time that August? Talk about Hurricane Katrina - that very day many thousands of people in the neighboring states left work, went to their churches and other community organizations, and as private citizens started gathering supplies and making plans to go to the rescue as soon as the storm passed. When has such "COMMUNITY" EVER occured in Europe?

Answer: Never. Europeans would never even THINK of lending a hand.

Indeed, in Italy for instance they have built walls around poor districts, with checkpoints, to keep the poor in. Reminiscent of 60 years ago? Is that this vaunted European "community"?

Was it a sense of "community" in Canada that caused the looting there during the blackout of a few ago? No looting south of the border, was there?

No upbringing: come on an American board and insult Americans.

So, there. Now you have an answer. How do you like a dose of your own medicine? Especially when it's TRUE.

So, remember, don't throw stones if you live in a glass house. And Europe does.

Dvine
04-11-2007, 12:33 AM
[QUOTE=samizram;1371115]What a screamer! I missed it an came upon it in a SERP. Wow! You guys are that far gone, eh?

And to the anti-American: "Community"? Is is it European "community" that results in all those homeless WORKING beggars littering the streets of Europe? They starve and freeze on the sidewalks with crowds of "humanitarian" Euros walking by and looking the other way. Community?.......

Eh, what does this long preaching have to do with the question "why don't pro players post here"? Beggars littering the streets of Europe? No, tennis dude! We're discussing tennis here!
What's next? A long post about why the sky is blue or where babies come from? Nah, I think you're in the wrong forum buddy...

Anywhoo.... :roll:

Why doesn't a pro like David Nalbandian have a fan site? The guy is hard to find info about! Keeps hiding like a flea on a homeless person... <-- oops! sorry, back to the homeless issue!
:neutral:

dukemunson
04-11-2007, 01:13 AM
Brian Wilson is an idiot...thankfully he doesnt have Delic's groundies as seeing him do anything more then lose in challengers would be depressing.