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thefan
04-06-2007, 06:41 PM
I currently only own the PS85 but I was wondering how does the other "classics" that are mentioned so much on this forums such as the PC 600 and the POG mid compare to the ps85.

Thanks

thefan
04-06-2007, 08:52 PM
anyone?

bump..

Duzza
04-06-2007, 08:58 PM
You can't compare these racquets because it's impossible to describe how good they all play. Demo.

Duzza
04-06-2007, 08:59 PM
I can however:

PS 85
Stiff
Small head
Good maneuvrability
Fine spin wise
Best for servers IMO

PC600
Flexy
Horrible for volleys IMO
Great for serves and Backhands

POG
Stiff
Great for volleys
Above AVG for serves
Great spin potential with the right setup

Deuce
04-06-2007, 10:03 PM
The PS 85 isn't stiff - it's crisp. Big difference.

The POG mid is definitely stiff. And much less comfortable than the PS 85.

The Prestige Classic is the softest, most comfortable of the three.

Duzza
04-06-2007, 10:31 PM
The PS 85 isn't stiff - it's crisp. Big difference.

The POG mid is definitely stiff. And much less comfortable than the PS 85.

The Prestige Classic is the softest, most comfortable of the three.

Sorry, you're right. I'm using mine at the moment and it's got a great feel, not stiff.

stevekim8
04-09-2007, 05:00 PM
i'm ALSO VERY interested in comparisons of these three racquets. i'm trying to decide on one. which one would have easier time hitting sweetspot? and which one would give the "best" forehand? (topspin and flat, i guess). and i also heard pog has AMAZING slice and drop shot. i'm a head lm prestige user right now, and very interested in pc600, since i heard that safin still uses pc600 and not fxp

jayserinos99
04-09-2007, 07:05 PM
The PS 85 isn't stiff - it's crisp. Big difference. The POG mid is definitely stiff. And much less comfortable than the PS 85. The Prestige Classic is the softest, most comfortable of the three.

I'd echo the same things as Deuce. The POG mid can be a bit more 'harsh' than the PS85. When I used the POG mid I had to add a lot of lead tape + a soft multi at low 50s tension so I can play without pain for a bit. As for the PC, it definitely is the softest even with the denser string pattern; the PS is crisper but not to the point of arm pain.

jasonbourne
04-10-2007, 01:08 PM
Does the kevlar in the PS 85 make it softer to the 100% graphite of the POG Mid?

Tennis Man
04-10-2007, 01:43 PM
I hope we are talking abotu the original versions: PS 85 with white butt caps and PC 600, Made in Austria ....


You can't compare these racquets because it's impossible to describe how good they all play. Demo.

agree ... they are a benchmark to judge the other racquet by.


The PS 85 isn't stiff - it's crisp. Big difference.

The Prestige Classic is the softest, most comfortable of the three.

agree ... PS 85 can be almost as soft and comfortable as PC 600 (one of my unleaded SV) or as stiff at POG (earlier China) but PS 85 is definitely more versatile (the best serving racquet ever, lot of control and comfort) and PC 600 is just "buttah" although it's asking for lead :)

Tennis Man
04-10-2007, 01:45 PM
Does the kevlar in the PS 85 make it softer to the 100% graphite of the POG Mid?

That's a mistery (read an early Wilson gimmick). With 20% kevlar t's supposed to be stiffer than POG but it's not.

dr_punk
04-10-2007, 01:49 PM
I think the 85 is the best thing i've ever held in my hands.

routine125
04-10-2007, 01:55 PM
hey dr. punk,

what version of the wilson 85 do you have? if the newer china one, have you tried previous versions: taiwan, st. vincent? if so how do they compare? what are you stringing your racquet with? tension?

MTXR
04-10-2007, 02:57 PM
I wish i could put the PS85 handle on the PC600. The more rectangular shape grip does a doozy on my hand.

dr_punk
04-10-2007, 05:07 PM
hey dr. punk,

what version of the wilson 85 do you have? if the newer china one, have you tried previous versions: taiwan, st. vincent? if so how do they compare? what are you stringing your racquet with? tension?

I've been hitting with drakulie's PS85's lately and they are St. Vincents and Taiwan models i believe. The ones I bought are taiwan models i think. The Taiwanese is definitely less firm than the SV's, as other people have put it.

Keifers
04-10-2007, 09:54 PM
Does the kevlar in the PS 85 make it softer to the 100% graphite of the POG Mid?
100% graphite is inherently stiff. Adding Kevlar takes away some of the harshness, without robbing the PS 85 of feel.

You can do a fairly direct comparison by playtesting the PK Heritage Type C (80/20) side-by-side with the Redondo Type C (100%).

jasonbourne
04-11-2007, 04:00 AM
Keifers, thanks for the response. I started tennis using the Max 200G, which I thought was 100% graphite. Perhaps it was only injected with graphite - unsure what this means. The Max 200G was considerably softer than the PS 85. Hence, my confusion of what benefits of what kevlar adds to rackets.

drakulie
04-11-2007, 05:51 AM
jason, I definitely found the POG mid to be stiffer than my 85's.

jasonbourne
04-11-2007, 07:42 AM
PS 6.1 Classic is known to be stiff racket and it has kevlar, similar to PS 85.

Is the POG Mid stiffer than PS 6.1 Classic?

mclee025
04-11-2007, 08:30 AM
100% graphite is inherently stiff. Adding Kevlar takes away some of the harshness, without robbing the PS 85 of feel.

You can do a fairly direct comparison by playtesting the PK Heritage Type C (80/20) side-by-side with the Redondo Type C (100%).

So what you are saying here is that the PK Heritage Type C (80/20) has the same great feel as the Redondo Type C (100%) but without the harshness. Is that right?

So given that, in your opinion, is the PK Heritage Type C a better racquet than the Redondo Type C? Slightly off topic, but just curious :).

stormholloway
04-11-2007, 08:49 AM
Come on Duzza, PC600 horrible for volleys? Yeah right.

drakulie
04-11-2007, 08:58 AM
^^ probably pilot error.

Keifers
04-11-2007, 03:11 PM
Keifers, thanks for the response. I started tennis using the Max 200G, which I thought was 100% graphite. Perhaps it was only injected with graphite - unsure what this means. The Max 200G was considerably softer than the PS 85. Hence, my confusion of what benefits of what kevlar adds to rackets.
You're welcome. According to Dunlop, the Max 200G was made of "Injection Molded Graphite with Nylon Matrix" -- I've no idea what that means either, although I have read on these boards that the process was expensive and therefore unlikely to be used again for making racquets.

Keifers
04-11-2007, 03:21 PM
So what you are saying here is that the PK Heritage Type C (80/20) has the same great feel as the Redondo Type C (100%) but without the harshness. Is that right?

So given that, in your opinion, is the PK Heritage Type C a better racquet than the Redondo Type C? Slightly off topic, but just curious :).
Both are fine player's racquets and the difference in impact harshness between them is not so large that one is clearly better than the other. It's more a matter of personal preference.

Having played both of them, I would say that if one started with the Heritage, the Redondo might feel slightly more raw or harsh in comparison. And if one were used to the Redondo, the Heritage might feel a little muted and providing less information about what the stringbed is doing with the ball.