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Gundam
04-11-2007, 11:21 AM
Evert was known to be very 'active' in dating among tennis players unlike her image. She was not an impulsive kind. Before Lloyd, she dated Jimmy Connors and almost married him. It seems Evert was disappointed with Lloyd's on-court attitude (but who can compete with Jimbo in that department...). So, I wonder what was so great about John Lloyd?

sandy mayer
04-11-2007, 11:28 AM
Being good or bad at tennis doesn't have anything to do with how good a husband somebody is.

zapvor
04-11-2007, 11:30 AM
no idea, but i never realized how attractive she was before

BreakPoint
04-11-2007, 11:33 AM
Why not? John Lloyd is a good looking guy and likely...ahem....satisfied her needs, if you know what I mean. ;)

Moose Malloy
04-11-2007, 11:59 AM
This is definitely one of the strangest threads. Why did you marry your wife Gundam?

I think its a little absurd that many imply Evert was promiscuous just because she dated more than one or 2 guys in her life, she wasn't a nun you know.

Women have it hard, always being judged for things no one would ever notice about a man.

Gundam
04-11-2007, 12:58 PM
This is definitely one of the strangest threads. Why did you marry your wife Gundam?

I think its a little absurd that many imply Evert was promiscuous just because she dated more than one or 2 guys in her life, she wasn't a nun you know.

Women have it hard, always being judged for things no one would ever notice about a man.

Moose,

Let me apologize seriously. It IS a silly thread, sorry.
I was about to attend a meeting in 1 min and the question came up rather suddenly...
We all know about Evert's mental fortitude and coolness on court. To me, it seemed like an extreme-Connors and Lloyd. Didn't Connors destory Lloyd in one occasion when Evert married Lloyd? Oh, well, I guess she was attracted to him for some reasons but gradually disappointed with something unexpected (as most of us do).

gsquicksilver
04-11-2007, 02:41 PM
my question is, why did her and jimmy connors break of the engagement? i've never found out why.

zapvor
04-11-2007, 06:37 PM
This is definitely one of the strangest threads. Why did you marry your wife Gundam?

I think its a little absurd that many imply Evert was promiscuous just because she dated more than one or 2 guys in her life, she wasn't a nun you know.

Women have it hard, always being judged for things no one would ever notice about a man.

i am reading her biography right now, so maybe i will make a post after i am more into teh book. so far i know that she was super sheltered in childhood, so she tried to make up for it in her later years.

jeebeesus
04-12-2007, 01:08 AM
Because i turned her down and she married Loyd on the rebound

tennus
04-12-2007, 02:13 AM
Evert was known to be very 'active' in dating among tennis players unlike her image. She was not an impulsive kind. Before Lloyd, she dated Jimmy Connors and almost married him. It seems Evert was disappointed with Lloyd's on-court attitude (but who can compete with Jimbo in that department...). So, I wonder what was so great about John Lloyd?

Here's a few extracts from the Evert / Navratilova book "The Rivals"; Evert requested an introduction to Lloyd after reading a newspaper interview he had given a few weeks prior to the 1978 Wimbledon tournament. Lloyd talked about how the constant travel on tour made having a personal life difficult. He said he wished he could meet somebody he could fall in love with, someone who would travel with him and share his life. The story - not to mention the accompanying photo of a shirtless Lloyd caught Evert's attention. "I had been feeeling the same way about the tour for some time" she said. Within three months Lloyd and Evert were talking marriage. By Christmas they were engaged. They married on April 17, 1979. :)

Gundam
04-12-2007, 12:16 PM
Here's a few extracts from the Evert / Navratilova book "The Rivals"; Evert requested an introduction to Lloyd after reading a newspaper interview he had given a few weeks prior to the 1978 Wimbledon tournament. Lloyd talked about how the constant travel on tour made having a personal life difficult. He said he wished he could meet somebody he could fall in love with, someone who would travel with him and share his life. The story - not to mention the accompanying photo of a shirtless Lloyd caught Evert's attention. "I had been feeeling the same way about the tour for some time" she said. Within three months Lloyd and Evert were talking marriage. By Christmas they were engaged. They married on April 17, 1979. :)

Great! Thanks!!

obanaghan
05-04-2007, 03:51 PM
My friend has a theory about divorce. She say she will date a divorced man. But no a twice divorced man because that means two other women have married him and decided to move on. The constant in the equation is the twice divorced man.

Now Chris Evert has divorced a second time. She has three boys ages between ages 10-15. She should listen to Dr. Laura and not even think about dating until her youngest is a high school graduate.

It is surprising that wild boy Connors is still in his first marriage and she has divorced twice.

Maybe the question shouldn't be what she saw in them but what they saw in her. Only compared to Rosie Casals, BJK and MN is she a beauty. She is no dog but she is not very attractive and now with that knarled sagging sun baked skin...

CEvertFan
05-04-2007, 10:09 PM
My friend has a theory about divorce. She say she will date a divorced man. But no a twice divorced man because that means two other women have married him and decided to move on. The constant in the equation is the twice divorced man.

Now Chris Evert has divorced a second time. She has three boys ages between ages 10-15. She should listen to Dr. Laura and not even think about dating until her youngest is a high school graduate.

It is surprising that wild boy Connors is still in his first marriage and she has divorced twice.

Maybe the question shouldn't be what she saw in them but what they saw in her. Only compared to Rosie Casals, BJK and MN is she a beauty. She is no dog but she is not very attractive and now with that knarled sagging sun baked skin...


All tennis players are going to have some sort of skin issues once they are done playing the game (Even Sharapova and the Williams sisters) because it comes with the territory, but I've seen recent photos of Evert and she looked GREAT! Her skin isn't how you described it at all.

thejackal
05-04-2007, 10:15 PM
connors is married?

wow thats news to me

CEvertFan
05-04-2007, 10:34 PM
As a matter of fact here are two photos of Evert:

1985 French Open
http://www.geocities.com/rredman0727/CEvert.jpg


2005 with Maria Sharapova
http://www.geocities.com/rredman0727/Evert2007.jpg


I think she looks great for a woman in her 50s.

Mick
05-05-2007, 04:06 AM
Love means nothing to a tennis player. This was a long time ago before they experienced the pain of divorce :)

http://i10.tinypic.com/4zm12jd.jpg

christo
05-06-2007, 09:42 PM
Evert was known to be very 'active' in dating among tennis players unlike her image. She was not an impulsive kind. Before Lloyd, she dated Jimmy Connors and almost married him. It seems Evert was disappointed with Lloyd's on-court attitude (but who can compete with Jimbo in that department...). So, I wonder what was so great about John Lloyd?

he could lick his eyebrows

suwanee4712
05-07-2007, 06:47 AM
I think even Chrissie would tell us that John helped her career tremendously. If he wasn't driven enough in his own career, at least he was able to be a hitting partner for Chris during his respites from the tour and was of great moral support to her.

I remember reading that after Chris lost to Tracy at the 1979 US Open final, she called John in Europe (he was getting ready for Davis Cup) and told him she really needed him. John was also very good at studying Martina, Tracy, Hana, Andrea, etc. and helping Chris and Dennis Ralston with strategy.

I think Chris gives John a lot of credit for her improvement in 1984 and 1985. So he was a very important compenent to her life - personally and professionally.

mctennis
05-07-2007, 10:57 AM
Hung like a horse.......

Rabbit
05-07-2007, 11:41 AM
I think Evert at 50-something looks a ton better than Sharapova at 20.

Serve 'em hard
05-07-2007, 04:00 PM
I think Evert at 50-something looks a ton better than Sharapova at 20.

Nah, Evert doesn't even come close to Sharapova, and didn't at any age, as the above pictures attest.

Just as they are probably better tennis players and use better equipment than their predecessors, the tennis hotties of today blow the hotties of yesteryear out of the water.

CEvertFan
05-07-2007, 10:50 PM
Nah, Evert doesn't even come close to Sharapova, and didn't at any age, as the above pictures attest.

Just as they are probably better tennis players and use better equipment than their predecessors, the tennis hotties of today blow the hotties of yesteryear out of the water.


I agree with Rabbit. Let's see how good Sharapova looks at 50!

Rabbit
05-08-2007, 10:40 AM
Nah, Evert doesn't even come close to Sharapova, and didn't at any age, as the above pictures attest.


I guess that's why some folks need glasses and others don't. ;)

Watch Sharapova in HD some time. She is in dire need of the old Clearasil.

eagle
05-08-2007, 10:43 AM
How about this picture?

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english/2006-11/27/xinsrc_24211032711378432215980.jpg

r,
eagle

Rabbit
05-08-2007, 11:04 AM
^Yowsir.......

Serve 'em hard
05-08-2007, 11:53 AM
I agree with Rabbit. Let's see how good Sharapova looks at 50!

Chris Evert looks good for 50. And Sharapova may look horrible at 50, since rumor has that Russian women don't age well. However, Sharapova at 20 looks better than Evert at 50, or 40, or 30, or 20... Only Chris Evert's mother could look at that picture of her next to Sharapova and say she is prettier than Sharapova, either now or at any time previously in her life.

CEvertFan
05-08-2007, 01:30 PM
Chris Evert looks good for 50. And Sharapova may look horrible at 50, since rumor has that Russian women don't age well. However, Sharapova at 20 looks better than Evert at 50, or 40, or 30, or 20... Only Chris Evert's mother could look at that picture of her next to Sharapova and say she is prettier than Sharapova, either now or at any time previously in her life.


I refer you to Eagle's post in this thread. Click the link.

Serve 'em hard
05-08-2007, 05:35 PM
I refer you to Eagle's post in this thread. Click the link.

A) The girl in that picture doesn't even look like Evert to me, though I guess you would know better than I would about such things...

B) The girl in the picture has an okay body but not the greatest helmet in the world despite the make up artists best efforts...

eagle
05-08-2007, 05:50 PM
Here's another younger pix of Chris:

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/MMPH/174098~Chris-Evert-Posters.jpg

r,
eagle

Serve 'em hard
05-08-2007, 11:24 PM
Here's another younger pix of Chris:

http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/MMPH/174098~Chris-Evert-Posters.jpg

r,
eagle

Maybe it's the hair in that photo, but she's just not doing much for me there. I think I like her better now than then.

CEvertFan
05-08-2007, 11:32 PM
Maybe it's the hair in that photo, but she's just not doing much for me there. I think I like her better now than then.


LOL, it was the 70's. That time period will never be known for good hairstyles or good fashion choices.

Gundam
05-09-2007, 02:50 AM
Maybe it's the hair in that photo, but she's just not doing much for me there. I think I like her better now than then.

If we are talking about her looks, I never found her attractive. But I have a DVD of a match she played when she was about 16 or 18 (?) against V. Wade. When she was younger, she was quite curvy and kinda cute.

Colpo
05-09-2007, 07:08 AM
LOL, it was the 70's. That time period will never be known for good hairstyles or good fashion choices.

I have no business knowing this, but Chris didn't start to rock that frizzy 'do until 1984 at the earliest. Around then she also became friendly with Kathy Smith, an aerobics/exercise mogul who Chris used to get back an edge in her head-to-heads with Martina. Kathy's influence shows in the exer-**** pic. Chris' hairstyles in the '70s ranged from a schoolgirl ponytail (excellent - early '70s), to a feathered Dorthy Hamill (didn't really work for her, but everybody had one in the mid '70s), to her personal low point of what was effectively a John Denver-type 'do (late '70s). She went back to a very attractive ponytail in the early '80s, then frizzed out with the perm shown in the above pics. Last, I think she looks better now than ever - good for you, Chris!

obanaghan
05-09-2007, 10:16 AM
I remember watching the Chris Evert charity event about 15 months ago and was stunned how unattractive her(CE) skin looked on her exposed arms and shoulders. I know that the sun beats down the skin but she looked quite unsightly.

She does take a nice photo in earlier years and does look quite nice against MS more recently.

She did benefit in judging her looks being compared to the other stars of her day. Court, King, Goolagong, Austin, Jaeger, Navratilova and Graf are not exactly beer commercial material. Tennis should not and is not about how you look but how you play and what titles you won. I only bring this up because some CE fans think she was a beauty and she was not. She was an avergae to slightly above average looker in a group of less than average looking women.

Applaud their strengths avoid their flaws but don't build them up to me more than they are/were. MS is HOT and could easily land a role on a soap opera. CE was a great player a nice person I hope but she and her father both bear a resemblance to Frank Purdue!!

Serve 'em hard
05-09-2007, 10:14 PM
^
Well said. Case closed.

Rabbit
05-10-2007, 04:48 AM
Tennis should not and is not about how you look but how you play and what titles you won.
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Applaud their strengths avoid their flaws but don't build them up to me more than they are/were.

MS is HOT and could easily land a role on a soap opera.

Hmmm....maybe you should take your own advice? Seems to me you just did what you told us not to do! Get a TV close up of Sharapova during a match and you've got Acne town population MaSha.

IMO, Evert is more attractive. Now there may be some external considerations like she didn't scream every time she hit the ball, she exuded class and poise on the court, her dad wasn't a slime ball who cheated from the stands, and her cheeks didn't resemble a close up of the moon on Monday Night Football. But again, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

Phil
05-10-2007, 05:10 AM
Hmmm....maybe you should take your own advice? Seems to me you just did what you told us not to do! Get a TV close up of Sharapova during a match and you've got Acne town population MaSha.

IMO, Evert is more attractive. Now there may be some external considerations like she didn't scream every time she hit the ball, she exuded class and poise on the court, her dad wasn't a slime ball who cheated from the stands, and her cheeks didn't resemble a close up of the moon on Monday Night Football. But again, beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

All I can say to that is "Ouch!" Couldn't agree more...

Serve 'em hard
05-10-2007, 08:10 AM
Hmmm....maybe you should take your own advice? Seems to me you just did what you told us not to do! Get a TV close up of Sharapova during a match and you've got Acne town population MaSha.


All I can say to that is "Ouch!" Couldn't agree more...

Gentlemen, I suggest that you take your own advice and compare, if only in your minds, those soap opera beauties that the other poster referred to under similar conditions to those in which we see MS. To wit, how many of these allegedly fresh faced starlets actually have better skin or would come off looking any better than MS if they were forced to run around a tennis court in minimal or no make up for a couple of hours under the harsh glare of unforgiving TV lights?

Actresses/models/whatever have an unfair advantage over MS in this area, and it's easy to forget that. Now, since we can't compare how these girls look at their worst compared to Maria since we never see them under the kind of unforgiving conditions in which we routinely see MS, we are left with one area of comparision: How do they look at their best? And there's simply no question that MS looks just as most any soap opera starlet or other attractive gal celeb when similarly made up and adorned with comparable bells and whistles.

Verdict? MS is much more attractive than Evert ever was, and is on a par with many hot celebrities.

FiveO
05-10-2007, 11:33 AM
connors is married?

wow thats news to me

Seriously?

Connors and Chris Evert had planned to marry in October 1974, but it was called off.

In 1980, Connors married model Patti McGuire. They have two children and live in the Santa Barbara, California area.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_Connors#Personal_life

*model as in Miss November and Playmate of the Year in Playboy Mag in 1977

While link is to the playboy website, the photo and bio are PG:

http://www.playboy.com/girls/playmates/directory/197611.html

I remember her being more striking than she appears in this one photo.

Looking at recent photos however, she seems not to have aged as well as Evert has over the ensuing years. JMO.

Rabbit
05-10-2007, 12:08 PM
Gentlemen, I suggest that you take your own advice and compare, if only in your minds, those soap opera beauties that the other poster referred to under similar conditions to those in which we see MS. To wit, how many of these allegedly fresh faced starlets actually have better skin or would come off looking any better than MS if they were forced to run around a tennis court in minimal or no make up for a couple of hours under the harsh glare of unforgiving TV lights?

Actresses/models/whatever have an unfair advantage over MS in this area, and it's easy to forget that. Now, since we can't compare how these girls look at their worst compared to Maria since we never see them under the kind of unforgiving conditions in which we routinely see MS, we are left with one area of comparision: How do they look at their best? And there's simply no question that MS looks just as most any soap opera starlet or other attractive gal celeb when similarly made up and adorned with comparable bells and whistles.

Verdict? MS is much more attractive than Evert ever was, and is on a par with many hot celebrities.


Why on earth would I try to justify a comparison which I think is invalid to begin with?

I will agree, actresses do have an unfair advantage over Sharapova, they're usually really good looking or beautiful. Where as Shrapova is not.

Verdict? Well they say you can't polish a turd but in Sharapova's case, I case you can; to some degree.

Evert is hands down better looking, always has been and always will be.

Serve 'em hard
05-10-2007, 12:17 PM
Why on earth would I try to justify a comparison which I think is invalid to begin with?

I will agree, actresses do have an unfair advantage over Sharapova, they're usually really good looking or beautiful. Where as Shrapova is not.

Verdict? Well they say you can't polish a turd but in Sharapova's case, I case you can; to some degree.

Evert is hands down better looking, always has been and always will be.

Are you having trouble with mishits lately by any chance, Rabbit? Maybe thinkin of switching to an Oversize 'cause for some reason you keep missing the ball lately? It wouldn't surprise me, for you must be BLIND if you can't recognize Sharapova's good looks.



2005 with Maria Sharapova
http://www.geocities.com/rredman0727/Evert2007.jpg


The girl on the right looks like a "turd" to you? Is that what you're telling the men and women of this jury?? Get thee to an eye doctor, or perhaps a neurologist -- failure to recognize the obvious can be often be the first sign of a brain tumor...

zapvor
05-11-2007, 08:39 AM
i personally think Sharapova is only hot on the court. off court she just looks ugly. if i saw her on the street i would say pass. Evert i think is attractive in a feminine cute girly way. not like hot. but hot girls are dime a dozen,so.

Serve 'em hard
05-11-2007, 03:35 PM
i personally think Sharapova is only hot on the court. off court she just looks ugly. if i saw her on the street i would say pass. Evert i think is attractive in a feminine cute girly way. not like hot. but hot girls are dime a dozen,so.

A) Hot girls are not a dime a dozen. Unfortunately.

B) If you saw Sharapova on the street, you wouldn't say "pass", you'd probably pass out. Or soil yourself.

C) Sharapova is prettier than Kirilenko.

zapvor
05-11-2007, 03:43 PM
A) Hot girls are not a dime a dozen. Unfortunately.

B) If you saw Sharapova on the street, you wouldn't say "pass", you'd probably pass out. Or soil yourself.

C) Sharapova is prettier than Kirilenko.

hahhaha. sorry buddy. it sounds like

A)you dont get out enough
B) i would pass, not pass out. i dont pass out for girls like sharapova
C) hahahhahahahhahahha

Serve 'em hard
05-11-2007, 03:49 PM
hahhaha. sorry buddy. it sounds like

A)you dont get out enough
B) i would pass, not pass out. i dont pass out for girls like sharapova
C) hahahhahahahhahahha

A) I have seen more women in my life than you have, of all shapes and sizes, and have better and keener judgment about such matters than some youngster stranded in flyover country.

B) You would pass out cold if you saw Sharapova on the street, and when the EMT's revived you, you would wake to find that you'd also wet yourself.

C) Kirilenko is cute, but will never be a Sharavapova-like beauty. There is no hope for her.;)

zapvor
05-11-2007, 04:05 PM
A) I have seen more women in my life than you have, of all shapes and sizes, and have better and keener judgment about such matters than some youngster stranded in flyover country.

B) You would pass out cold if you saw Sharapova on the street, and when the EMT's revived you, you would wake to find that you'd also wet yourself.

C) Kirilenko is cute, but will never be a Sharavapova-like beauty. There is no hope for her.;)

alright! you win buddy. whagtever you say.

Serve 'em hard
05-11-2007, 06:45 PM
alright! you win buddy.

Now you've got it.;)

Hey, who's the girl in your avatar? I can't tell.