PDA

View Full Version : Wilson nSix-One 95 16x18 is a Classic


iksmols
04-30-2007, 10:32 AM
This racquet is a classic in my opinion just like POG or Wilson PS Original 85.It`s stability and balance is unsurpassed.Do You agree with me?

kingdaddy41788
04-30-2007, 10:34 AM
No. It's got way way way way way way way way too much power. WAY TOO MUCH. It's not even close to the classics on any level.

iksmols
04-30-2007, 11:21 AM
No. It's got way way way way way way way way too much power. WAY TOO MUCH. It's not even close to the classics on any level.

What racquet do You play with?

caesar66
04-30-2007, 11:41 AM
maybe not a classic in the sense that kingdaddy means, like the pog or ps 85, but I think its a "modern classic", in the sense that the babolat pure drive is a classic. Its a great stick and I agree with you on balance and everything, its really a superb racquet.

dr_punk
04-30-2007, 11:47 AM
No. It's got way way way way way way way way too much power. WAY TOO MUCH. It's not even close to the classics on any level.

I kinda sorta agree

El Diablo
04-30-2007, 11:52 AM
Perhaps. For a racquet that has that kink of stability, power and serving prowess, it still has manageable maneuverability, not an easy combination to pull off. And it's comfortable as well.

dr_punk
04-30-2007, 12:02 PM
Perhaps. For a racquet that has that kink of stability, power and serving prowess, it still has manageable maneuverability, not an easy combination to pull off. And it's comfortable as well.

I agree its stable and comfortable, but this thing is a cannon. I haven't played with the pure storm, but I would imagine it playing like this one.

Craig Sheppard
04-30-2007, 12:05 PM
This racquet is a classic in my opinion just like POG or Wilson PS Original 85.It`s stability and balance is unsurpassed.Do You agree with me?

Hell no.... not even close.

0d1n
04-30-2007, 12:27 PM
It has some nice qualities, but "comfortable" it is not ! Maybe when compared to the Pure Drive ... but that's like saying that somebody that's 140 kg is thin because he is thinner than somebody who's 180 kg.
Also...in my book at least, a racket needs to be around (in production and sold in big quantities) for some 5-7-10 years in order to become a classic. A 2 years old racket can't be a classic...not for me

esm
04-30-2007, 07:49 PM
hate that racquet... but i will have to play with this one for the next few days.... :rolleyes:

kingdaddy41788
04-30-2007, 07:51 PM
What racquet do You play with?

Most recently, the Flexpoint Prestige, but I'm more than likely moving to the less powerful Prestige Classic. We'll have to see once I hit with it.

Hondasteve
04-30-2007, 07:59 PM
When I think of 'classic', I think of something that has been around and has stood the test of time. No, I o believe that this racquet has all of the qualities that make up a classic, despite it being a more powerful stick. Look at racquets like the Agassi model or the Babolat PD-racquets that have been used to great success by pros and retain a very loyal following with the rest of us. For sure they are classics in the making.

rooski
04-30-2007, 08:10 PM
Here we go again. "The n6195 has way too much power". Give it a rest. Another ridiculous piece of nonsense that constantly flows thru these forums. It's funny how about 300 division 1 college players and scores of pros play this racket (not paint jobs) but for some reason they can control the power. Hmmmm....how can that be? We have 3.0, 3.5, and 4.0 people on this forum (that keep perpetuating this garbage) that must be incredibly powerful for their NTRP level....that or they have really bad technique. Stringing the n6195 in the low 60's gives a good player all the control they need.

BTW...FWIW...I have played the last 3 generations of the 6.1 and the 6085 and 6095 before that. I think the 6.1 Classic was easily the most powerful of the 3 generations. Serving with that racket was amazing. Groundies were also really powerful if you could swing 12.5 oz's. Now that I think about it, the HPS61 also served more powerfully than the n6195 too.

To answer the original question...I think all the 6.1 generations are classics. But I'm a bit biased I guess.

Wilson6-1
04-30-2007, 08:13 PM
Great Racquet!

If it isn't a classic now, it will be some day. People will be playing this racquet for a long time to come.

I would be willing to bet that there are more players playing the 6.1 now than the PS 85 (by a significant number). I'd also be willing to bet that it won't change in the future.

Viper
04-30-2007, 08:47 PM
Me and this racket have a rocky past. It was my first real racket. I slaved my summer of 13 years old mowing lawns to get this thing. The moment I got it I was at the courts all the time. I loved to carry around with me, even if I wasn't playing tennis. Then the next summer I bought a PS 6.0 85, and I thought that I was awesome with it (key word: thought). However when tennis season started, I realized that I couldn't play with this racket, as the game is too advanced. However, me, not wanting to play with "old equipment" wanted a new racket. I never got one, but I still take this baby out when ever my forehands not working, or when my serve has no pop. It's not my favorite racket, but the geeky-emotional value with it will forever remain.

iksmols
05-01-2007, 06:50 AM
I wonder if some of the negative opinions come from people who purchased a fake one?

kingdaddy41788
05-01-2007, 06:52 AM
I wonder if some of the negative opinions come from people who purchased a fake one?

Don't you think it's more likely that some people like it and some people don't? Just like every other racquet ever made...

jump4wd
05-01-2007, 08:14 AM
Here we go again. "The n6195 has way too much power". Give it a rest. Another ridiculous piece of nonsense that constantly flows thru these forums. It's funny how about 300 division 1 college players and scores of pros play this racket (not paint jobs) but for some reason they can control the power. Hmmmm....how can that be? We have 3.0, 3.5, and 4.0 people on this forum (that keep perpetuating this garbage) that must be incredibly powerful for their NTRP level....that or they have really bad technique. Stringing the n6195 in the low 60's gives a good player all the control they need.

BTW...FWIW...I have played the last 3 generations of the 6.1 and the 6085 and 6095 before that. I think the 6.1 Classic was easily the most powerful of the 3 generations. Serving with that racket was amazing. Groundies were also really powerful if you could swing 12.5 oz's. Now that I think about it, the HPS61 also served more powerfully than the n6195 too.

To answer the original question...I think all the 6.1 generations are classics. But I'm a bit biased I guess.

With open pattern stringbed like n95 and PSGD strung, you probably enjoy adjusting the string every couple minutes :)

iksmols
05-01-2007, 10:33 AM
It is not too powerfull in my opinion(8 pts headlight strung)unless You string it under 57 lb.

rooski
05-01-2007, 11:17 AM
With open pattern stringbed like n95 and PSGD strung, you probably enjoy adjusting the string every couple minutes :)

Yes I do have to adjust the strings a lot. I've got nice callouses on my left finger tips from doing just that. The PSGD strings also break after about 2-3 hours of play. No matter, I still like the way they play for their very short life. The reality is that every poly I've tried feels like cr@p after 3 hours anyway and I end up cutting it out. Multi's disintegrate even faster than PSG. I occasionally try other strings but always come back to PSGD.

chrisx
05-01-2007, 05:15 PM
It is just a reworked Prostaff 6.1 classic. That is the classic frame. The ncode is just another version of a classic frame.

dr_punk
05-01-2007, 05:34 PM
Great Racquet!

If it isn't a classic now, it will be some day. People will be playing this racquet for a long time to come.

I would be willing to bet that there are more players playing the 6.1 now than the PS 85 (by a significant number). I'd also be willing to bet that it won't change in the future.

classics are made the day they come out of the factory

BounceHitBounceHit
05-01-2007, 05:46 PM
maybe not a classic in the sense that kingdaddy means, like the pog or ps 85, but I think its a "modern classic", in the sense that the babolat pure drive is a classic. Its a great stick and I agree with you on balance and everything, its really a superb racquet.

Well said. A 'Modern' Classic' built more for the 'Modern Game'. I agree. CC

aimr75
05-01-2007, 06:22 PM
dont know if it can be classed a classic, but its a great stick..
________
VOLCANO DIGITAL REVIEW (http://vaporizer.org/reviews/volcano)

Wilson6-1
05-01-2007, 07:20 PM
classics are made the day they come out of the factory

That's overly simplistic. It is a solid racquet and the fact that so many play with it is just proof that it belongs in the same league as the other so-called "classic' racquets.

mhstennis100
05-01-2007, 07:21 PM
Does the 18X20 lower the power and give you more control, or am I just making up stuff?

Casco
05-01-2007, 07:22 PM
The 18x20 version of the nSix-One 95 is the real classic!

skraggle
05-04-2007, 10:44 AM
It may not be a legend, but it's a great stick. It gives me a lot of the heft of my beloved M-Fils in a much easier to swing package. I string them at 64-66 with a poly hybrid and the power/control package is great.

ohplease
05-04-2007, 11:20 AM
This racket was the defacto standard college and high school player's choice through the mid to late 90s, much like the pure drive has been in this decade.

As such both are already classics. They might not be loved, and their ubiquity might not earn them cred from racket snobs, but you can't deny their importance.

In fact, I'll put it in even stronger terms. Manufacturers only really make a few kinds of frames:

1) player frame, open pattern - Wilson 6.1
2) player frame, flexy, typically dense pattern - Head Prestige
3) light player frame - Dunlop 300g
4) player's tweener - Pure Drive
5) true tweener - Wilson 6.2
6) granny - Head Ti.S6

These are the standard bearers for their categories, to which all others are compared. If that doesn't make the Wilson 6.1 a classic, then what of sticks like the POG, which can only really be considered because of their longevity and relative weirdness? How many oversized or super open patterned player's frames did the POG inspire?

Defining and leading a category matters. The 6.1 did both.

Micky
05-04-2007, 12:44 PM
I know it is a classic braking strings when you hit the frame.

skraggle
05-04-2007, 12:49 PM
I know it is a classic braking strings when you hit the frame.

What the heck?

Micky
05-05-2007, 12:56 PM
What the heck?

I know three guys in Bolivia that have been playing with that racquet and they all complain about it. I have read about it in this forum as well.