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Ripper
05-02-2007, 12:26 PM
So, there's this guy who's, at least, one full level above me. I've won sets over him, but never a match. Today, I played only one set against him and decided to try something different. So, I sliced a lot and not only the backhand. I lost 6-4, but only because he seriously went into his bag of tricks (well and because I choked on several break points). I admit I've always used slice mainly as defense and have looked down at people who use it too much, but there could be something there. Honestly, I need to figure out if this strategy was really being effective or if he was just having a not so great day. In any case, I'm thinking about mixing a bit of "offensive slice" into my game, without getting carried away, of course.

Edit: Maybe, what I'm talking about is kind of like junkballing... Anyway, it seems to be effective, try it.

JRstriker12
05-02-2007, 12:47 PM
A good driving slice can is underated.

Watching Fernando Gonzalez at the Austrailian, you can see he definitely incorporated the slice into his game. Fed is also the master of using short, angled slices to bring opponenets in then pass them.

Ripper
05-02-2007, 01:31 PM
A good driving slice can is underated.

Watching Fernando Gonzalez at the Austrailian, you can see he definitely incorporated the slice into his game. Fed is also the master of using short, angled slices to bring opponenets in then pass them.

At club level, deep slices (with heavy underspin) seem to, also, be helpful in provoking UEs.

kevhen
05-02-2007, 01:35 PM
Slice works even better outdoors in windy conditions too as the ball moves more since it is slower.

Tim Tennis
05-02-2007, 03:41 PM
I think "the slice' is sooo under rated. It is a great shot.

Ed
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lethalfang
05-02-2007, 04:35 PM
I sometimes do these things when the going gets tough and when I am getting outplayed.
Usually I do it when I get a deep ball that bounces high, so I can hit a hard slice traveling with good pace, which clears the net by a foot and lands a couple of feet in front of the baseline. It forces errors or induce weak replies.
But I often hit the shot a little too high and it will go out, so I make lots of errors that way myself.

cereal
05-02-2007, 05:29 PM
Short slices in my expirience equal ownage. because of th way a properly exeuted slice comes off the court, deep slices if prepared and executed can mean some serious discomfort for the other player. ALso another good slice is when theyre coming up...hit it not too deep but just enough so they can flick it back and finish off at net the second method is only if youre like agassi and like running guys to death. :)

enjoy

Mad iX
05-02-2007, 05:36 PM
Fed is also the master of using short, angled slices to bring opponenets in then pass them.

I love doing this, although I'm obviously nowhere as good as Fed, but neither are the people I'm playing against. I'll also usually come to the net, as usually all they do is hit an off-balance shot that's easy to pounce on while they're still stuck in no man's land.

tennis_nerd22
05-02-2007, 05:55 PM
iunno how it works for other people, but i LOVE when people slice to my forehand... i just hit winners, or at least good setups for put-away shots

but ya you're right in that the slice is a very useful and important shot... :)

lanky
05-03-2007, 12:55 AM
I'm an old timer and one of the shots that has gone out of the game,but is still very effective for most normal players other than pros is an offensive slice backhand.Most people,including pros hit the defensive version with a high takeback and a U shaped shot .For offensive see rosewalls backhand,where the racquet drives through the ball -result a little backspin ,a hard shot and it shoots off the surface,especially if a fast surface.Problem with it is the low margin for error over the net.Take a look at rosewall's backhand-it's great! PS if you dont alrready know Rosewall was famous for his superb footwork and being a perfect ball striker so the low margin of error over the net was not a big problem for him.

tennis_hand
05-03-2007, 01:26 AM
The best slice, or you should call it dropshot: it bounces back to your side. Complete ownage.

Unless you hit really good slices and mix them up, you can't provoke many UEs in 3.5 level and above. Good players can even hit attacking winners out of it.

SlapShot
05-03-2007, 05:38 AM
I use the slice to take some pace out of a heavy hitter - nowadays, guys seem to thrive on pace, and a slice usually gets them out of their rhythm.

It always helps that the Pro Staff Classic is a BH slice machine. It makes for a nasty shot to return.

Andres
05-03-2007, 06:32 AM
I use the slice to take some pace out of a heavy hitter - nowadays, guys seem to thrive on pace, and a slice usually gets them out of their rhythm.

It always helps that the Pro Staff Classic is a BH slice machine. It makes for a nasty shot to return.
Indeed! The PSC 6.1 is a beast at the backhand slice. I don't know why, but I can't match the spinning ability with any other racquet. The ball bites the strings, and it bites the ground. It's amazing.

jamauss
05-03-2007, 06:37 AM
Man...reading this thread was like deja vous - I just posted about playing a player very similar.

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=131320

Jonny S&V
05-03-2007, 06:41 AM
When I just let my racquet head just drop through the ball, I almost always get an offensive slice that my opponent can't handle and is either an UE or a sitter that I can volley away definitely. Slice is very underrated at the high school level, as 95% of the varsity players use a western grip where I live.

Ripper
05-03-2007, 09:56 AM
Another way to use slice offensively is to hit a very hard and spiny one right at your opponent when he's at the net. Unless he's a very good vollyer, you can, almost, count on that ball going into the net. Of course, you have to vary your shots or your opponent gets used to them.

lethalfang
05-03-2007, 10:26 AM
I'm an old timer and one of the shots that has gone out of the game,but is still very effective for most normal players other than pros is an offensive slice backhand.Most people,including pros hit the defensive version with a high takeback and a U shaped shot .For offensive see rosewalls backhand,where the racquet drives through the ball -result a little backspin ,a hard shot and it shoots off the surface,especially if a fast surface.Problem with it is the low margin for error over the net.Take a look at rosewall's backhand-it's great! PS if you dont alrready know Rosewall was famous for his superb footwork and being a perfect ball striker so the low margin of error over the net was not a big problem for him.

I hit my offensive slice with my forehand. My backhand produces more of the defensive variety. In any case, I consider my offensive forehand slice a high-risk shot.