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Tennis16
05-02-2007, 04:19 PM
I just got a Tecnifibre T320, and I am comparing it to my daughters Dunlop Mfil200. They look and feel the same. Did I just spent a lot for a PJ???????

iplaybetter
05-02-2007, 04:21 PM
you mean the t-fight

Tennis16
05-02-2007, 04:30 PM
I mean the t320

nyc
05-02-2007, 04:31 PM
you mean this one:
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/descpageRCTFUSA-T32016.html

BreakPoint
05-02-2007, 04:50 PM
The TF320 is lighter than the MFil200, and I also think it has a better feel.

jura
05-02-2007, 06:25 PM
It's not the same mold and even not the same racket. The T.Fight 320/335 has the same mold as an old Dunlop racket. It was a racket which was only endorsed in Australia/Asia as far as I know. (I always forget the name, Thomas Martinez should know.) A lot of pros still use this mold (Blake, Berdych, Haas). The history is that TF tried to catch Blake but couldn't pay him as much as Prince does at the end. For testing they made him a bundle of rackets from this mold. After Blake signed with Prince TF gave these rackets to some other pros (i. e. C. Rochus) and later they designed their new players rackets from this mold: the T.Fight 335/320/295.

nyc
05-02-2007, 06:35 PM
Interesting... Do you know the history behind the 2006 grip profile change?

vkartikv
05-02-2007, 06:37 PM
The headshape is the same but the feel and response are worlds apart.

jura
05-02-2007, 08:18 PM
Interesting... Do you know the history behind the 2006 grip profile change?
You mean the different grip shape between T,Fight 325 and T,Fight 320/335?!

jura
05-02-2007, 08:18 PM
The headshape is the same but the feel and response are worlds apart.
Maybe, I never played the original Dunlop.

uk_skippy
05-02-2007, 11:21 PM
You mean the different grip shape between T,Fight 325 and T,Fight 320/335?!

Strangely enough, I have 3 x TF315, with the later rqt having a slightly different grip feel plus they changed the style of the butt cap. My TF335's have the same feel & butt cap as the later TF315's.

Also the earlier TF315's have the pallet system, whereas the TF335's have the traditional foam type.

Regards

Paul

jura
05-02-2007, 11:48 PM
Most of the "TF own" mold rackets have pallets. But the T.Fight 320/335 come from an existing mold and probably the shape is different so that you can't fix the pallets. This might be the reason. I think if they could have produce it with pallets without paying a lot of money for new molds they would have done it.

ericsson
05-03-2007, 03:54 AM
It's not the same mold and even not the same racket. The T.Fight 320/335 has the same mold as an old Dunlop racket. It was a racket which was only endorsed in Australia/Asia as far as I know. (I always forget the name, Thomas Martinez should know.) A lot of pros still use this mold (Blake, Berdych, Haas). The history is that TF tried to catch Blake but couldn't pay him as much as Prince does at the end. For testing they made him a bundle of rackets from this mold. After Blake signed with Prince TF gave these rackets to some other pros (i. e. C. Rochus) and later they designed their new players rackets from this mold: the T.Fight 335/320/295.

That would be the revelation tour...

Ross K
05-03-2007, 01:28 PM
Funnilly enough, I posted this earlier today on diff 'Slazenger' thread (it's another post that's really about the similarities between technifibre and dun mfil racquets.) Anyway...


FOUND THIS JUST FROM DOING SEARCH FOR 'DUNLOP' IN 'RACQUETS' SECTION (PAGE 2, I BELIEVE)... HMMMM...


Chauvalito

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!!!Technifibre T-Fight 320=Dunlop M-Fil 200 Plus 2006!!!


Last Friday I received 4 demos from TW. The TF tfight 320 16x20, RDS 001, m-fil 200 2006, and the Volkl DNX 9

We are having a lot of fun demoing the rackets but I just wanted to comment on the similarities between the dunlop and the TF.

Someone has posted on this subject before, but i just wanted to add to the speculation.

From all appearance perspectives, other than the pj., the rackets are exactly the same. When you place one racket over the other they mirror each other exactly, and as far as beam with and head size, they are the same (bw=20mm, head size=97).

The only noticeable differences are the bumperguards, and the handle pallet on the TF is somewhat shorter. The grip shape is almost the same as well.

I suspect that Dunlop sold the mold to TF, and TF has changed the layup in their versions to make them heavier (320, 336 grams etc.) and more headlight (10 pts., and 12pts., unstrung)

I dont know how to post pics, but if someone can instruct me i will do so.

I know people have talked about companies selling molds, but this is quite interesting because the same mold is being sold by two different companies at the same time. If they are the same mold, their are potentially 6 different versions of the same racket mold:

Dunlop m-fil 200 plus 2005 (27.5)
dunlop m-fil 200 plus 2006 (27)
tf t-fight 320 16x20
" " 18x20
" " 335 16x20
" " 18x20

How is that for variety...the other interesting comparison is the price difference...

I realize that these rackets have different weights and stifness ratings, I am just surprized they are being sold at the same time. As far as the stifness is concerned the 320 and the m-fil 200 2006 differ by only 1 pt., 67 and 68 according to the manufacturer, but according to TW, they have the same strung stiffness of 64.


HOPE IT'S COOL TO JUST LIFT AND POST PPL'S PAST POSTS LIKE THIS?

FuriousYellow
05-03-2007, 01:37 PM
I demoed the 320 and M-FIL 200 2006 at the same time last year. They may have the same shape, but they play like two completely different racquets. To me the 320 felt noticeably heftier, stiffer and more solid than the M-FIL. It sure didn't feel like it's stated 307 SW.

jura
05-03-2007, 06:07 PM
I don't know about the US but here in Europe the mold of M-Fil 200 and T.Fight 320/335 is NOT the same.

jace112
05-04-2007, 04:40 AM
TF made the new TFight by itself. They decided to develop their own design. A senior engineer from Wilson was indeed hired to do the job. (don't remember the name).

One thing that's too often forgotten is carbon quality. That's a HUGE part of the feeling and performance of a frame.

alfa164164
05-04-2007, 08:55 AM
The mold of the Dunlop 200 M-Fil and the 200 M-Fil Plus are slightly different.
The T-Fight 320 appears to be the same mold as the 200 M-Fil Plus.