View Full Version : Tennis Car: Toyota Matrix or Pontiac Vibe ?

09-24-2004, 01:26 PM
Any opinions ? I need something big enough for my two kids, with enough room for my tennis gear, under 20 K....

09-24-2004, 02:12 PM
They are the exact car with different badging.

09-24-2004, 02:13 PM
You also have Rav4 and CRV that are below 20K.

09-24-2004, 02:16 PM
Yeah, I've got a CRV now, wanted something a little zippier, also looking at a Mazda 6 hatchback. I know they are the same car, I'd rather have a Toyota than a Pontiac, but I like the way the Vibe looks.

09-24-2004, 04:17 PM
I always check out cars using edmunds.com. Probably the Matrix would hold it's value better than the Vibe. I guess the Mazda 6 is a v-6 and probably a little more powerful than the Matrix and also a little heavier. Always enjoyed Mazda's myself! Just something to think about, I had a Ford Escort that had the Protege engine in it. I ended up giving it away to a friend. Well, at 248,00 miles, the engine is still going, but the Ford transmission has been fixed twice and all the Ford parts inside and out broke!! Makes me think of the Toyota/Pontiac badging......

09-24-2004, 04:45 PM
Check out the Malibu MAXX. Its got plenty of room (its an extended sedan), a nice interior, and you can get the DVD player in the back for the kids. It looks a little funny, but it is really pretty sweet.
As soon as my Camaro breaks down, thats what I'm looking at.

09-25-2004, 05:47 AM
Get a BMW 525i. :D

Steve Huff
09-25-2004, 12:32 PM
Besides being the same car, the Pontiac version (Vibe) usually has bigger rebates and better financing. I drove the RAV 4. Didn't like it at all. The steering is way too light. I did like the VW Jetta though, and if you don't need too much room, the Mini Cooper is a nice driving car. The S model has plenty of zip too. The Mazda 6 is quite a bit bigger (and nicer). Subaru has some pretty nice cars in that class too. For a few more bucks, you could get a Mazda RX 8 ($22,900 last I saw here). Best buy I've seen is a Mitsubishi Galant. One year old program cars going for about $10,000.

09-25-2004, 06:33 PM
Sorry...but check out the Toyota Scion XB. It's bigger than you think, an awesome car, gets 35 mpg, and only costs $14,700 out the door (taxes and all). Buy your wife a great tennis vacation with the money you save.

09-25-2004, 06:54 PM
If it's not too small, look at the Mazda 3 wagon/hatch instead of the 6. You could get a leftover '04 completely loaded for the amount of $ discussed here(must admit I'm looking at the 6 wagon to replace my Tribute).

09-25-2004, 11:12 PM
I like performode's suggestion...although if you want zippy go ahead and get the m package...500 ponies should zip you fast enough!

Joe Average
09-26-2004, 07:00 PM
I like the Mazda 6. It comes with a four-cylinder and V6. I prefer the four-cylinder with manual transmission. It's got zip. The V6 is a modified Ford Taurus engine. Which doesn't mean that it's bad. I found the Mazda 3 a bit too small. It's definitely got that small car feel. As for the Matrix or the Vibe ... if you prefer the styling of the Vibe, go with it. They're the same car, although the Matrix, I believe, is cheaper. The base version, however, I was told (by a friend who test drives cars for a radio show), is a bit under-powered. And the sportier version comes only with a six-speed manual transmission.

09-28-2004, 06:34 AM

09-29-2004, 10:48 AM
matrix as long as it's not stock. scions could be a little underpowered although i'm not so sure about the new tc, but that's a coupe.

now if you really want to haul stuff and go fast, spend a little (actually a lot) more and get the dodge magnum with the hemi.

09-30-2004, 08:08 AM
PT Cruiser. They can accomodate four people quite comfortably, can hold a lot of stuff (the rear seats fold down and are removable) and they are very cool looking cars. In addition Chrysler is offering some pretty good deals right now in terms of rebates and financing.

David Pavlich
09-30-2004, 06:27 PM
I second the PT Cruiser. I own one and it's a hoot. 23 mpg around town with my, shall we say, less than conservative driving habits. 5 speeed, of course.


10-01-2004, 06:11 AM
1st choice....Mazda 6 (I love this car....burnt orange maybe :D )

2nd choice....Toyota Matrix

Last Choice....Pontiac


10-01-2004, 11:41 PM
I've been looking for a car for months now. I'll give my input.

Mazda 3: Beautiful styling. Feels like a bigger car than it actually is. Back seats not as roomy as Matrix/Vibe. Stable ride, lots of fun to drive. Excellent power. A very good value. Safety is not as good as Matrix/Vibe or Civic in the 04 models at least.

Matrix/Vibe: Lots of headroom. Engine is severely underpowered. Soft ride. Good safety. I don't care for the look of the dash.

Chevrolet Malibu/Maxx: Excellent value. Beautiful and roomy interior. Comfortable seats and high quality materials. You have to test drive this car. The ride stuns a lot reviewers just like it stunned me. It's based on the Saab 9-3 platform. The whole car/engine is really well thought through and there is a lot of attention to details like you find in Subaru. Very good safety, including the new side impact safety test. Lots of power with excellent gas mileage. I would go for the V6 since it will be better on gas. You also have adjustable foot pedals and telescopic steering. For me, these are important since I'm tall and it's hard to find a comfortable seating position on some cars, including the Matrix/Vibe. The Mazda 3 has telescopic steering but no adjustable pedals. The Maxx is one car where you actually come out feeling like you got more than what you paid for.

Mazda 6: I was extremely disappointed with this car. It didn't feel like one unit. Instead it felt very bulky and the reviews I've read see the same thing. It also fails an important side impact safety test even with the side impact air bag. Interior is nice and controls are well placed. Some cars impress when you test drive but this one disappointed and I scratched it off my list right away.

You should also wait for the new Chevy Cobalt to be released. It's looking really good and will compete with the Mazda 3, Matrix/Vibe, Civic etc.. It should be out Oct 18th. From what I've read so far, it is really well put together, stable, quiet. I will wait to see it live and for a test drive before confirming this.

Just get out there and test drive. I also really like the Hyundai Sonata and Acura 1.7. There is a ton of choice out there and you will have to see what suits you best.