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WhiteSox05CA
06-08-2007, 05:33 PM
Which ATP players (or WTA), use a full-western grip for their forehand? Also, are they clay court specialists?

Frenchie
06-08-2007, 05:41 PM
Rafael Nadal.

hlkimfung
06-08-2007, 09:10 PM
Muster, Moya,

Beresagtii, Haas - Hawaiian

The Gorilla
06-08-2007, 09:14 PM
Muster, Moya,

Beresagtii, Haas - Hawaiian

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JayxTheKoolest
06-08-2007, 11:38 PM
Muster, Moya,

Beresagtii, Haas - Hawaiian

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crazylevity
06-09-2007, 12:24 AM
Grosjean and Hewitt are 2 full Westerners that come to mind, who are NOT claycourt specialists.

WhiteSox05CA
06-09-2007, 04:19 AM
Grosjean and Hewitt are 2 full Westerners that come to mind, who are NOT claycourt specialists.

Thanks. That's what I'm looking for- western users who AREN'T clay courters. Anyone else?

Izeil110
06-09-2007, 05:36 AM
I think, im not sure, but Roddick uses western i believe?

J-man
06-09-2007, 06:09 AM
I think Roddicks is Semi Western.

NamRanger
06-09-2007, 07:35 AM
I think Roddicks is Semi Western.


He uses the same grip as Robredo, an extreme semi-western, very close to western.

Andres
06-09-2007, 07:37 AM
Muster, Moya,

Beresagtii, Haas - Hawaiian
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crazylevity
06-09-2007, 08:00 AM
oh on the women's side, maybe Clijsters and Hingis? But they're both fairly competent on clay.

Mauresmo uses close to, if not, a Hawaiian. :p

hlkimfung
06-09-2007, 08:35 AM
Tommy Haas does use a Haiwaiin, according to Johnny Mac

Helvetian
06-09-2007, 08:39 AM
whats a western grip?

lordmanji
06-09-2007, 08:41 AM
He uses the same grip as Robredo, an extreme semi-western, very close to western.

i think an "extreme semi western" is western??? theres half a bevel difference between semi and full western no????

crazylevity
06-09-2007, 08:46 AM
i think an "extreme semi western" is western??? theres half a bevel difference between semi and full western no????

one bevel difference. Semi-western is the diagonal bevel, Western is the bottom bevel.

WhiteSox05CA
06-09-2007, 01:15 PM
Hewitt uses western? Sweet! Anyone else?

NamRanger
06-09-2007, 01:18 PM
i think an "extreme semi western" is western??? theres half a bevel difference between semi and full western no????


If you look at Roddick's and Robredo's grips, you'll see that their knuckle is pretty close to the bottom of the diagonal bevel, very close to a western grip, but still semi-westernish.



It's just a more extreme version of the semi-western grip, like how Federer uses a much milder version of it.

BERDI4
06-09-2007, 03:14 PM
The question should be: "Which pros don't use western grip".
I Think today 90% use western.

LarougeNY
06-09-2007, 03:32 PM
oh on the women's side, maybe Clijsters and Hingis? But they're both fairly competent on clay.

Mauresmo uses close to, if not, a Hawaiian. :p

clijsters uses easter, not western.

I though haas used semi western, and mauresmo uses western.

NamRanger
06-09-2007, 03:58 PM
The question should be: "Which pros don't use western grip".
I Think today 90% use western.


Not true, most pros today use a semi-western to mild-semi western. Western is great for spin, but it does not fair well on hardcourts because hitting flat to the forehand side gives Western grip players tons of headaches.

kingdaddy41788
06-09-2007, 04:12 PM
The question should be: "Which pros don't use western grip".
I Think today 90% use western.

Definitely not. 90% or more of pros use semi-western or something really close. Few use a full western.

NebAce1
06-09-2007, 04:56 PM
Grosjean and Hewitt are 2 full Westerners that come to mind, who are NOT claycourt specialists.

I didn't know that Hewitt was a full westerner. I saw him practice up close and it looked like he used a regular semi-western grip.

WhiteSox05CA
06-09-2007, 07:32 PM
Yeah I know Mauresmo uses western. I was curious. I currently use a semi-western, and the other day I tried out full western for fun, and I played pretty good. I tried it again today and it wasn't as successful. I'll see tomorrow, I was thinking of making the switch.

I play high school tennis, and I think that it would actually be pretty effective. Most players at that level are pretty flat-hitters from what I've seen. Although the low ball could give me problems, I think the difference would be to my advantage.

Who was the first to use a western forehand at the pro level?

The Gorilla
06-09-2007, 07:39 PM
Yeah I know Mauresmo uses western. I was curious. I currently use a semi-western, and the other day I tried out full western for fun, and I played pretty good. I tried it again today and it wasn't as successful. I'll see tomorrow, I was thinking of making the switch.

I play high school tennis, and I think that it would actually be pretty effective. Most players at that level are pretty flat-hitters from what I've seen. Although the low ball could give me problems, I think the difference would be to my advantage.

Who was the first to use a western forehand at the pro level?

Bill Johnston
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For other persons named Bill Johnston, see Bill Johnston (disambiguation).

William ("Little Bill") Johnston (born November 2, 1894 in San Francisco, California – died May 1, 1946 in San Francisco, California) was an American tennis champion. He was the co-World No. 1 player in 1919 along with Gerald Patterson.

Until "Big Bill" Tilden began to defeat him regularly in 1920, Johnston had been the best American player for a number of years. He remained competitive with Tilden for the next seven or eight years, but was never again able to beat him in an important match. Together they won seven consecutive Davis Cup trophies, a record that still stands as of the early 2000s.

Johnston was a small, frail-appearing man who suffered ill health from his Navy service in World War I. He was renowned, however, for the power and deadliness of his forehand drive, which he hit shoulder-high with a Western grip, and which was universally considered the best forehand of all time until the advent of Pancho Segura and his two-handed forehand in the late 1940s. Johnston died of tuberculosis in 1946 at the age of 51.

Johnston was inducted into the International Tennis Hall of Fame in Newport, Rhode Island, in 1958.

WhiteSox05CA
06-09-2007, 07:57 PM
Wow, that's cool. I had no idea. Thanks.