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krosero
06-10-2007, 06:47 PM
I know that Agassi won the first Australian Open that he entered in 1995 and lost the next year.

I can't even think of someone who won their first two tries at any event.

Anyone know about this record, both in the Open Era and before?

bluetrain4
06-10-2007, 07:14 PM
Boris Becker - 1985, 1986, 1989 Wimbledon

Guga Kuerten - 1997, 2000, 2001 French Open (though these were his only slams)

krosero
06-10-2007, 07:29 PM
Boris Becker - 1985, 1986, 1989 Wimbledon

Guga Kuerten - 1997, 2000, 2001 French Open (though these were his only slams)Becker lost in his first Wimbledon, in 1984, as did Kuerten in his first French Open, in 1996.

I'm looking for anyone who has won their first three entries (or even their first two) at any Slam.

bluetrain4
06-10-2007, 07:47 PM
Becker lost in his first Wimbledon, in 1984, as did Kuerten in his first French Open, in 1996.

I'm looking for anyone who has won their first three entries (or even their first two) at any Slam.

My mistake. I thought you were asking for players whose first three Slam wins were at the same Slam, regardles of whether they had lost previously.

I don't think anyone else has done what Nadal has done at the French.

krosero
06-10-2007, 08:13 PM
My mistake. I thought you were asking for players whose first three Slam wins were at the same Slam, regardles of whether they had lost previously.

I don't think anyone else has done what Nadal has done at the French.As I say, I can't even think of someone doing it twice, at any Slam.

Maybe this is a clearer way of putting it:

Who has been undefeated in their first three attempts at Roland Garros or anywhere else?

SgtJohn
06-11-2007, 12:47 AM
Dick Sears in the US Championships
Willie Renshaw in Wimbledon

Probably others...It takes us way back in time though!
Jon

thetruthshallsetyoufree
06-11-2007, 01:41 AM
yeah but arent those guys from the days when the defending champ only had to play in the final. renshaw i know is. so that isnt quite the same.

fednad
06-11-2007, 02:10 AM
Becker lost in his first Wimbledon, in 1984, as did Kuerten in his first French Open, in 1996.

I'm looking for anyone who has won their first three entries (or even their first two) at any Slam.

Boris Becker actually left the match midway due to injury in 1984. That was in Fourth Round.
And that is the reason, tennis community actually considered him as unbeaten on Wimbledon till he lost to Peter Duhan in 1987.

krosero
06-11-2007, 09:39 AM
Well among the women it's easy to think of one person who did what Nadal did. Monica Seles won her first four Australian Opens.

With the men, I only know of Nadal, and Agassi winning his first Australian Open.

Who are some other men who have won any Slam on the first attempt?

urban
06-11-2007, 09:45 AM
Tilden two at Wimbledon 20,21.Don't know about the Dohertys.

krosero
06-11-2007, 09:54 AM
Tilden two at Wimbledon 20,21.Don't know about the Dohertys.Tilden's a good example, even with his win in '21 being a Challenge Round.

Moose Malloy
06-11-2007, 10:45 AM
Don't know if this should count, considering the fields, but Kriek won his first 2 AOs, '81, '82.

And not trying to slight Nadal at all, but he was planning on playing the French in '03 & '04, but got injured, so the 'undefeated' record is a little misleading. When he played it in '05 he was a top 5 player, not sure if many have made their debut at a particular slam ranked so high( Agassi was #2 when he played Australia in '95 for 1st time)

Fries-N-Gravy
06-11-2007, 11:04 AM
without the injury he'd have 5 RG's by now. While seeding gives you a good spot, if you beat a seed, you could think of it as your taking over his spot and his path.

Cindysphinx
06-11-2007, 11:11 AM
On the reverse side . . .

I wonder which man and which woman took the greatest number of attempts to break through and win a particular slam.

Off the top of my head, I'd guess Jana Novotna and Goran, but that's probably wrong.

Moose Malloy
06-11-2007, 11:15 AM
without the injury he'd have 5 RG's by now.

He was ranked 75 at the '03 French & 49 at the '04 French. It would have been unlikely for him to win either event, he hadn't won an event of any kind at that stage of his career those years(first title was in summer '04)

read this on atptennis, was a bit surprised, thought Borg or Wilander would have gotten there before Mac & Jimmy:

"Nadal clinched his third Grand Slam title in just his 13th Grand Slam tournament. Only Jimmy Connors and John McEnroe (12 majors) claimed their third Grand Slam tournament from fewer Grand Slam outings."

krosero
06-11-2007, 11:42 AM
On the reverse side . . .

I wonder which man and which woman took the greatest number of attempts to break through and win a particular slam.

Off the top of my head, I'd guess Jana Novotna and Goran, but that's probably wrong.Per Wikipedia, Goran won Wimbledon on his 14th attempt, Jana on her 13th.

And Martina N. won her first U.S. Open on the 11th attempt. Borg would have been on his 11th had he played in 1982.

krosero
06-11-2007, 11:44 AM
checking Wikipedia and the ATP's site, Mats Wilander won the French on his first attempt. He lost in the final the next year.

Sadyv
06-11-2007, 11:47 AM
And not trying to slight Nadal at all, but he was planning on playing the French in '03 & '04, but got injured, so the 'undefeated' record is a little misleading

Uh, no its not. He has played 21 singles matches at the French, and won all of them. Its pretty straight forward.

Moose Malloy
06-11-2007, 11:54 AM
wonder which man and which woman took the greatest number of attempts to break through and win a particular slam.

Off the top of my head, I'd guess Jana Novotna and Goran, but that's probably wrong.

I think Virginia Wade at Wimbledon probably has this one.

lambielspins
06-11-2007, 11:57 AM
He was ranked 75 at the '03 French & 49 at the '04 French. It would have been unlikely for him to win either event, he hadn't won an event of any kind at that stage of his career those years(first title was in summer '04)

I agree with you, but one funny thing he would not have been ranked much lower(49th)then the eventual 2004 winner Gaudio(44th)was at the time of the 2004 French Open. ;)

HollerOne5
06-11-2007, 12:09 PM
Monica Seles winning her first four Australian Opens is a pretty ridiculous stat, especially because the last one was 3 years after the third one because of the stabbing. She actually reached the semis the next time, so at one point, she was 33-0 at the Australian Open.

Cindysphinx
06-11-2007, 02:09 PM
Per Wikipedia, Goran won Wimbledon on his 14th attempt, Jana on her 13th.

And Martina N. won her first U.S. Open on the 11th attempt. Borg would have been on his 11th had he played in 1982.

Awesome! What do I win?

Moose Malloy
06-11-2007, 02:19 PM
Virginia Wade won Wimbledon in her 16th attempt.

Cindysphinx
06-11-2007, 03:15 PM
Doh!!!!!!!