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The Gorilla
06-11-2007, 06:26 AM
it's an absolute joke.

War, Safin!
06-11-2007, 06:36 AM
The evidence being...?

nickb
06-11-2007, 06:58 AM
it's an absolute joke.

Got a link to prove it???

The Gorilla
06-11-2007, 07:04 AM
switch on your tv.

War, Safin!
06-11-2007, 07:06 AM
Okay - what have the commentators said about it?

ACE of Hearts
06-11-2007, 07:56 AM
Its really sad. i dont wanna see claycourters get advantages.

Zaragoza
06-11-2007, 08:26 AM
Clay is also faster than it used to be.

tenniskid3119
06-11-2007, 08:45 AM
what station is it being shown on?

Rhino
06-11-2007, 08:50 AM
what station is it being shown on?

BBC 2, live all day, all week

AAAA
06-11-2007, 09:10 AM
The courts at Queens Club have always been said to play with a truer and higher bounce than the Wimbledon courts of the 90s.

War, Safin!
06-11-2007, 09:11 AM
So, have we ascertained that the courts at Queen's are actually playing slow from the experts?
Or are we simply going on someone's assumption from watching it on TV?

Eviscerator
06-11-2007, 09:23 AM
I cannot comment on how Queen's is playing this year, but many pros and commentators have said that Wimbledon is playing much slower with higher bounces. This of course is nothing new since it has been going on since the 2002 years tourney. In case you want references just pick up this years TENNIS magazine where they lament about how slow the grass is and how the bounce is higher due to the under surface. So it stands to reason that tune up tourneys have also made the surface more akin to Wimbledon's.

Nadal_Freak
06-11-2007, 09:30 AM
I'm loving it. :D Unfortunately I'll miss Queens thanks to TTC not coming until August for DTV.

Heavy Metal Tennis Star
06-11-2007, 10:45 AM
slow or fast it will favor federer, he does well on clay and slow hardcourts, well he does well everywhere, i hope it is slow tho, so rafa will go far. maybe even win it.

ACE of Hearts
06-11-2007, 10:49 AM
I dont like the sound of these high bounces.The last thing we need is back to back RG.These clowns wanna ruin the best GS.

Nadal_Freak
06-11-2007, 10:51 AM
I dont like the sound of these high bounces.The last thing we need is back to back RG.These clowns wanna ruin the best GS.
Well the Australian Open is trying to hurt Nadal's chances. I'm glad it is evened up by slowing down the grass. :D

ACE of Hearts
06-11-2007, 10:54 AM
I dont care about australia, wimbledon is tradition and these people wanna make it something different.If they are going at this rate, they might as well make all GSs into clay which is boring!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Nadal_Freak
06-11-2007, 10:57 AM
Well we are both unhappy with the changes. I want the Australian Open to play like it did a few years ago and you want Wimbledon to play like the 90's.

War, Safin!
06-12-2007, 12:07 PM
Queens was playing pretty quick today - both Monfils and Andreev were hitting unreturnable bombs and Monfils in particular was serve-and-voilleying a lot.

tintin
06-12-2007, 12:09 PM
any free streams for Queens and Eastbourne? :confused:

a guy
06-12-2007, 12:12 PM
Slow or fast Fed will still win wimbledon. So kiss my *** guys.

onkystomper
06-12-2007, 05:36 PM
I have just got back from queens today and the courts are not playing like slow hard courts at all. The bounce is more akin to an astroturf and they are fairly pacey. much faster than any hardcourt i have seen

fastdunn
06-12-2007, 05:53 PM
But, that "slower and higher" bouncing courts discovered a gem called Federer.

Yes, the traditional grass is dead since 2001-2003.

And it makes me wonder if Federer is a grass court player
or clay courter (in traditional sense).

WhiteSox05CA
06-12-2007, 05:57 PM
It doesn't seem like clay courters are getting an advantage in Queen's Club. I don't want to post any results, for spoiler reasons, but you can check them.

Bassus
06-12-2007, 06:32 PM
But, that "slower and higher" bouncing courts discovered a gem called Federer.

Yes, the traditional grass is dead since 2001-2003.

And it makes me wonder if Federer is a grass court player
or clay courter (in traditional sense).



Federer would have been great on the old faster grass too. He played a fairly traditional grass court serve & volley game in the great match against Sampras.

Guga_x
06-13-2007, 12:17 AM
So slow both Monfils and Andreev made games entirely with ACES!!! really slow...

kimizz
06-13-2007, 01:49 AM
I dont agree with the thread at all...

War, Safin!
06-13-2007, 03:36 AM
That's cos this thread is pure BS.
:D

Rhino
06-13-2007, 10:14 AM
Well I'm watching Safin vs. Grosjean at the moment and we've had 7 games in 18 minutes. If we were in Paris that could be over an hour so I don't know where you got the idea to post this thread.

The Gorilla
06-13-2007, 11:43 AM
in fairness the surface has sped up hugely, it must have been the bad weather softening the ground up on the first day, the weather's great oday.

TennezSport
06-13-2007, 12:33 PM
I was just going to mention that it depends on the moisture in the air and the dampness of the court. At all of the grass court events are pounding the ground to get a true bounce. As long as the grass and grounds stay moist, they will be fast. However, when the days get hot sunny and dry, the court will play more like a clay court, especially when the grass is worn off.

Let's just hope the weather stays moist and grey for the S&V players.

TennezSport :cool: