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War, Safin!
06-12-2007, 05:45 AM
On a scale of 1-10 (with 1 as the lowest), rate, in your opinion, the following Slam-winners and former ATP #1's of the last few years:
* Pete Sampras
* Andre Agassi
* Lleyton Hewitt
* Gustafo Kuerten
* Marat Safin
* Andy Roddick
* Roger Federer
* Rafael Nadal

with the following characteristics:
- 1st-Serve
- 2nd-Serve
- Forehand
- Backhand
- Baselining
- Volleying
- Overheads
- Return-of-serve
- Stamina
- Power
- Movement / court-generalship
- Mentality

I suggest the following format as a shortened example:
Player's Name
1st-Serve: 8
2nd-Serve: 6
Forehand: 10
Backhand: 7
Baselining: 6


It's only a bit of fun - so let's hear it! :)

Duzza
06-12-2007, 07:04 AM
Oh mate I really CBF right now....

War, Safin!
06-12-2007, 07:23 AM
Oh mate I really CBF right now....
Oh Duzza, that's such a shame - I thought you'd be the first.
Nevermind, maybe you can BF later?
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Breaker
06-12-2007, 07:37 AM
I'll give this a shot since I'm still sickened from that Serena vid.

* Pete Sampras
- 1st-Serve: 10
- 2nd-Serve:10
- Forehand: 9
- Backhand: 6
- Baselining: 8
- Volleying: 10
- Overheads: 10+++
- Return-of-serve: 6
- Stamina: 9
- Power: 9
- Movement / court-generalship: 10
- Mentality: 10

* Andre Agassi
- 1st-Serve: 7
- 2nd-Serve: 6
- Forehand: 9
- Backhand: 9
- Baselining: 10
- Volleying: 5
- Overheads: 8
- Return-of-serve: 10
- Stamina: 10
- Power: 10
- Movement / court-generalship: 9 (not necessarily movement, but for dominance in court positioning)
- Mentality: 10 (late in career, 4 early in career)

* Lleyton Hewitt
- 1st-Serve: 6 (1st serve percentage kills him)
- 2nd-Serve: 5
- Forehand: 7
- Backhand: 8
- Baselining: 9
- Volleying: 9
- Overheads: 9
- Return-of-serve: 10
- Stamina: 10
- Power: 6
- Movement / court-generalship: 10
- Mentality: 10

* Gustavo Kuerten
- 1st-Serve: 9
- 2nd-Serve: 8
- Forehand: 8
- Backhand: 10
- Baselining: 9
- Volleying: 8
- Overheads: 9
- Return-of-serve: 8
- Stamina: 9
- Power: 9
- Movement / court-generalship: 9
- Mentality: 10

* Marat Safin
- 1st-Serve: 9
- 2nd-Serve: 7
- Forehand: 8
- Backhand: 10
- Baselining: 9
- Volleying: 8 (gets lazy sometimes at net)
- Overheads: 9
- Return-of-serve: 9
- Stamina: 9
- Power: 10
- Movement / court-generalship: 9
- Mentality: impossible to grade? guess 5

* Andy Roddick
- 1st-Serve: 10
- 2nd-Serve: 10
- Forehand: 8
- Backhand: 4
- Baselining: 8
- Volleying: 6 (recent improvements)
- Overheads: 10
- Return-of-serve: 4
- Stamina: 9
- Power: 8
- Movement / court-generalship: 6
- Mentality: 10

* Roger Federer
- 1st-Serve: 9
- 2nd-Serve: 7
- Forehand: 10
- Backhand: 9
- Baselining: 10
- Volleying: 9
- Overheads: 9
- Return-of-serve: 9
- Stamina: 9
- Power: 10
- Movement / court-generalship: 10
- Mentality: 10

* Rafael Nadal
- 1st-Serve: 8
- 2nd-Serve: 8
- Forehand: 10
- Backhand: 9
- Baselining: 10
- Volleying: 8
- Overheads: 10
- Return-of-serve: 6
- Stamina: 10+++
- Power: 9
- Movement / court-generalship: 10
- Mentality: 10

War, Safin!
06-12-2007, 07:53 AM
I'll give this a shot since I'm still sickened from that Serena vid.

* Lleyton Hewitt
- 1st-Serve: 6 (1st serve percentage kills him)

* Marat Safin
- 2nd-Serve: 7

* Andy Roddick
- Power: 8
- Mentality: 10

* Roger Federer
- Mentality: 10

* Rafael Nadal
- Return-of-serve: 6

A good shot too....I disagree with the ones I've highlighted in bold:
* Hewitt's service-game was pretty good I thought?
* Safin 2nd-serve: safe-but-heavy and rarely served double-faults.
* Roddick power of only 8?? :D
* Federer mentality questionable after Sunday perhaps?
* Nadal is leader in return-of-serve lists.

Breaker
06-12-2007, 08:17 AM
A good shot too....I disagree with the ones I've highlighted in bold:
* Hewitt's service-game was pretty good I thought?
* Safin 2nd-serve: safe-but-heavy and rarely served double-faults.
* Roddick power of only 8?? :D
* Federer mentality questionable after Sunday perhaps?
* Nadal is leader in return-of-serve lists.

-Hewitt's service game is good, nice placement and can pull aces on the big points. Also is very good at holding a lead when he gets a break, but his serve can also let him down in matches since his average is around 50%. He's my favourite player but that's the one part of his game he needs to improve on.

-Safin I don't know, one match his second serve will be awesome then the next day it doesn't seem so great. Well that's his entire game actually, when he's on his second serve is one of the best you're right about that.

-Roddick in his prime is probably a 10, I guess I still have the image of Roland Garros/Indian Wells semi/Aussie Open semi plastered into my head. When he was number one Roddick did have amazing power off the ground and it seemed even more off the serve. Now he tries to play counterpuncher/all court and doesn't seem as powerful.

-Against Nadal in a best of 5 on clay it's not the best, but he still dominates pretty much anywhere else and has 9 slams in the last three years, if he loses at Wimbledon then his mentality may be a bit weak right now.

-Nadal normally just floats the ball back in play on return then let's his ground game destroy his opponents, his return in itself isn't that great.