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tennisboy87
10-06-2004, 05:12 PM
Any suggestions for tensions on a HM 200G using Dunlop Synthetic Gut 16g? I've read from other posts that this racquet is a real arm killer. Is this true?

yip kok kuin
10-06-2004, 07:55 PM
I have shoulder problem. Used to play with max 200g. Got myself a hm 200g. strund it at 42 pound gamma syn. No problem so far. did tried once to up tension to 55 pound. totally unmanageable. it is not as flexible as the rating at 60. but is relatively arm friendly compared with the babolate

badmice2
10-07-2004, 12:54 PM
use guts....it will give you a softer feel to it. try using the big banger rule, string it 5% under your normal string tension.

tennisboy87
10-07-2004, 01:48 PM
How come everyone who uses the HM 200G say they have shoulder or arm problems? I currently use a HPS 6.1, which is a pretty stiff racquet, strung at max tension, and my arm or shoulder doesn't hurt at all. I'm thinking of stringing the HM 200G at like 61 or 62 lbs with synthetic gut. Anyone else use this setup or have any comments?

Matt H.
10-07-2004, 01:54 PM
i think a good majority of the people with arm problems either 1. don't warm up properly, and/or 2. have bad swing mechanics.

I played with the HM 200g. I used wilson sensation strung at 62. For a long time i played the Wilson HPS 5.0, using og micro strung at 64! I never had any single type of arm problem, but i attribute that to warming up properly, using good technique, and youth (i'm 21).

I now currently play with the MW 200g, and string them at around 60 lbs.

ohplease
10-07-2004, 05:55 PM
i think a good majority of the people with arm problems either 1. don't warm up properly, and/or 2. have bad swing mechanics.

I played with the HM 200g. I used wilson sensation strung at 62. For a long time i played the Wilson HPS 5.0, using og micro strung at 64! I never had any single type of arm problem, but i attribute that to warming up properly, using good technique, and youth (i'm 21).

I now currently play with the MW 200g, and string them at around 60 lbs.

I thought the same thing until I ran into my first case of tennis elbow for at 28. I used to think thirty-somethings complaining about creaky joints were full of it. I don't think that any more.

badmice2
10-08-2004, 12:54 AM
i have to agree with matt h. swing mechanic definitely does have a lot to do with tennis elbow, especially on those off center his that rocks your arm!!! :shock:

I use to hit with the PS 85 and had to give them up (SO LONG 85!!!) cause i needed something more forgiving. and from experience, sq footage does help with tennis elbow.

phat
10-08-2004, 02:26 AM
Hey Tennisboy87, HM 200G is 18x 20, and HPS 6.1 is 16 x 18, so if you want to use HPS as a benchmark, you should have a 10-15% drop on HM 200G consider that you will use the same type of string as your HPS.

tennisboy87
10-10-2004, 05:19 PM
Thanks phat.

Type40
10-10-2004, 09:52 PM
Regarding Tennis elbow, I suffered from it when I used to try hitting a one handed top spin backhand with a continental grip,
i dropped out of the game for a couple of years, definitely not a good grip for that shot, changed to a western backhand grip now, and no more tennis elbow. Once tennis elbow starts, it wont ever go away unless you completely stop playing for like a year, so be careful with your arm!

tennisboy87
10-11-2004, 11:50 AM
Isn't tennis elbow more or less because of bad technique? I've been playing since I was 7 (now I'm 17), and my technique is very good. I've never had any wrist, elbow, or shoulder problems. Are all of these problems caused by bad technique, or could the racquet be to blame? I use a stiff racquet, the hps 6.1, and I thought a thinner beamed, more flexible racquet might give me even more control and comfort.

Type40
10-11-2004, 05:10 PM
I would say yes it is because of bad techniqe, that's why i stopped trying to hit a one handed top spin backhand using a continental grip, because it's the wrong grip for that stroke, and caused me to develop tennis elbow.

tennisboy87
10-12-2004, 02:23 PM
Thanks Type40.

Matt H.
10-12-2004, 11:06 PM
Hey Tennisboy87, HM 200G is 18x 20, and HPS 6.1 is 16 x 18, so if you want to use HPS as a benchmark, you should have a 10-15% drop on HM 200G consider that you will use the same type of string as your HPS.


possibly. don't forget they have 18x20 string pattern available for the HPS 6.1 as well.

tennisboy87
10-13-2004, 03:43 PM
No, he's right. My HPS 6.1's do have a 16 X 18 pattern. I'm just not sure whether a denser pattern frame will screw up my game at all? I've heard they're more for flat hitters, and I hit with a lot of topspin.

brian.sat
10-15-2004, 01:21 PM
16 X 18 is for more power only. you get spin and power together with 18 X 20. I can never put as much spin with a 16 mains racquet.

tennisboy87
10-15-2004, 08:25 PM
So do you think I should try a denser pattern since I already hit with a lot of spin?

badmice2
10-18-2004, 10:59 AM
tennisboy87....sounds to me you have plenty of spin to give, the only thing you will lose with the dense pattern is power; since you can generate extra spin on your own, you should have no problem with the string pattern. You will notice an increase of control.

Side note, why do you want to switch? Have you try re-string your racket? Possibly at a higher tension? Open string bed with high tension actually goes pretty well together. You gain control and can still main spin and power.