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CyBorg
07-08-2007, 01:17 PM
Were you skeptical and even perhaps a bit dismissive of Nadal, but have suddenly found yourself astonished by his skill?

Post here if this is so.

I am definitely, first and foremost, a fan of Federer's game. However I am completely on Nadal's bandwagon after this tournament.

I think that he is the greatest combo of athleticism and competitiveness since Pancho Gonzalez.

War, Safin!
07-08-2007, 01:21 PM
Nope.
Why should a monster on clay-court who then appears to be a monster on the next nearest surface to clay (i.e. Wimbledon's p!ss-poor excuse for grass) convert anyone?
If he was that good, he'd have walked into the final at Queens too.

His performances at Aus Open and US Open significantly magnify his weaknesses.

saram
07-08-2007, 01:33 PM
I am on his bandwagon as well. I saw him about four years ago at the US Open in one of the early round matches and liked his hustle and work ethic. I thought his forehand was quite unique as well. But after that match, it was almost a year before really seeing him on tour.

Watched him become the dominant clay court specialist he is and was in awe of his ability on clay. But his being a contender only on clay still kept him being my favorite player.

I knew last year's Wimbledon effort by Rafa was not a fluke--but I wondered if he was like Bags and would not be around the next year. He had the toughest last week of anyone this year in the men's draw. He fought and battled like a champion. He was always positive and handled all challengers well. And today, he won me over.

He proved he can compete with the best in the world and take him to five on multiple surfaces. He was injured at the end of the fourth and still held a few break points early in the fifth due to determination and fortitude. He also showed class post-match in his interview and was a true gentleman after a loss that clearly made him want to vomit.

When he had his head held down after the match, I just said to myself: "I'm on your side now, kid. You're a warrior and lift your head up...you'll get him next year..."

AAAA
07-08-2007, 01:36 PM
Saram, Djokovic played 15 or 17 hours of tennis before his semi-final match with Nadal. I don't Nadal played as many hours in the previous rounds.

DraGoNoFfiR3
07-08-2007, 01:37 PM
Were you skeptical and even perhaps a bit dismissive of Nadal, but have suddenly found yourself astonished by his skill?

Post here if this is so.

I am definitely, first and foremost, a fan of Federer's game. However I am completely on Nadal's bandwagon after this tournament.

I think that he is the greatest combo of athleticism and competitiveness since Pancho Gonzalez.

i agree with you here. hes definately a special player and has certainly mastered the game of tennis in some aspects even more than federer. nadal takes the game to a new level with his use of pace AND spin, speed, and insane reflexes. he has grown alot since last year, and i'd like to see his chances on hard courts this year.

CyBorg
07-08-2007, 01:38 PM
I am almost positive Nadal will win Wimbledon next year. Especially if the event is organized better. Yes, the balls are very bouncy, but this won't change anytime soon. Wimbledon is slower than the US Open and it will stay that way for now.

And, most of all, I like the guy. Nadal has a natural small-town charm. He's not like ********s at all - in fact, those guys completely misinterpret Nadal's game and attitude. He's humble and honest. There's no Spartan crap - just honest, blue-collar tennis and great effort. Don't believe the smokescreen that the trolls are feeding here and don't hate Rafa for it.

Lastly, Nadal's versatility impressed me. His volleying is very good for today's tennis. His movement is spectacular side-to-side and front-to-back. He is extremely adaptable and no longer one-dimensional.

Lawn tennis embraces Rafa.

BigServer1
07-08-2007, 01:38 PM
He's grown on me a lot over the clay and grass seasons and today solidified it. I am a Federer fan and a Nadal fan and I hope they face off a lot more. This was the best tennis match I've watched for a while, so as long as they bring the goods, I'm happy to watch.

saram
07-08-2007, 01:39 PM
Saram, Djokovic played 15 or 17 hours of tennis before his semi-final match with Nadal. I don't Nadal played as many hours in the previous rounds.

Good point--I should have said toughest week between he and Roger...my bad. Great observation and thanks for being like CNN and keeping me honest!:)

bluescreen
07-08-2007, 01:42 PM
no, nadal hasnt converted me, but i was surprised by how well he played today. we was working extremely hard out there and thought he really could win it. im very surprised as to how quickly he's taken to the grass. i read somewhere that he only played 25 grass matches before today's final, and that is just astounding.

still a fed fan to the grave, but i was impressed today.

dh003i
07-08-2007, 01:42 PM
What this final tells me is that even with a Wimbledon surface that favors Nadal's game more so than any Wimbledon surface before it, he still lost. He also lost both tie-breaks, being the mentally weaker player.

I don't see how that suggests that he'll win next year; unless Wimbledon continues to slow it down again, in there determination to make Wimby like a 2nd FO.

It needs to be as fast as it was 6 years ago.

saram
07-08-2007, 01:43 PM
I am almost positive Nadal will win Wimbledon next year. Especially if the event is organized better. Yes, the balls are very bouncy, but this won't change anytime soon. Wimbledon is slower than the US Open and it will stay that way for now.

And, most of all, I like the guy. Nadal has a natural small-town charm. He's not like ********s at all - in fact, those guys completely misinterpret Nadal's game and attitude. He's humble and honest. There's no Spartan crap - just honest, blue-collar tennis and great effort. Don't believe the smokescreen that the trolls are feeding here and don't hate Rafa for it.

Lastly, Nadal's versatility impressed me. His volleying is very good for today's tennis. His movement is spectacular side-to-side and front-to-back. He is extremely adaptable and no longer one-dimensional.

Lawn tennis embraces Rafa.

so true; he is small-town and blue-collar. i don't think you'll ever see him puting on a suit for a post-match interview. liked how he came out with his stick in his hand--ready to go to work.

saram
07-08-2007, 01:45 PM
He also lost both tie-breaks, being the mentally weaker player.



huh????? he is not even close to mentally weak...

CyBorg
07-08-2007, 01:48 PM
so true; he is small-town and blue-collar. i don't think you'll ever see him puting on a suit for a post-match interview. liked how he came out with his stick in his hand--ready to go to work.

The only thing I don't like about Federer is his conformism. His white jacket, sweater and pants - too upper class and blindly following tradition.

Of course Roger has every right to do this and respecting tradition is okay, but the way he embraces the old uptight farts at the all-England club doesn't sit well with me.

Borg respected Wimbledon, but he didn't buy into the false aura. He was clearly in awe of winning there but never got too comfortable. I like that about him.

But oh well - Roger is a banker's kid. What else can you expect? I still like him.

jrgfederer
07-08-2007, 01:53 PM
this final totally blew me away. id never really disliked nadal, but i mean anywhere besides paris hes sorta at the back of your mind when thinking of potential winners. this year has really been great for rafa. first the win at indian wells then this. i mean, im a huge fed fan but nadal is really coming along. no doubt IMO he'll have at least 1 wimby in his career probably more. and just a couple tweaks in his game and he could (mayyybe) claim a USO or Ausie (since its a little slower there on the rebound ace).

BTW this whole vendetta between fed and nadal has to stop its totally ridiculous...theyre both amazing players and totally classy guys. everytime one of them makes one unintentionally "cocky" comment every one on these boards jumps on it like theyre the absolute and complete model for tennis players everywhere. its totally pointless.

saram
07-08-2007, 01:55 PM
Look at this image...does he have NOTES written on his hand????? call me crazy, but there is writing on the palm of his hand...

http://sports.yahoo.com/ten/photo?slug=getty-74808440mt037_the_champions_9_43_34_am&prov=getty

Mick
07-08-2007, 01:55 PM
I don't like excessive top spin but nadal's excessive top spin sure works well. Had Federer not served well today, they would have crown a different champion.

saram
07-08-2007, 01:58 PM
BTW this whole vendetta between fed and nadal has to stop its totally ridiculous...theyre both amazing players and totally classy guys. everytime one of them makes one unintentionally "cocky" comment every one on these boards jumps on it like theyre the absolute and complete model for tennis players everywhere. its totally pointless.


i could not agree more....

Shabazza
07-08-2007, 02:01 PM
As stated, I won't ever be a fan of him, but he revived my respect for him big time. He's a great player and a champion no doubt

dh003i
07-08-2007, 02:09 PM
huh????? he is not even close to mentally weak...

Saram,

Wording. I didn't say Nadal was mentally weak. I said he was mentally weaker than Federer. It was a comparison. That showed when Federer won the tie-breaks, showing those who doubted that he was the mentally stronger player.

saram
07-08-2007, 02:22 PM
Saram,

Wording. I didn't say Nadal was mentally weak. I said he was mentally weaker than Federer. It was a comparison. That showed when Federer won the tie-breaks, showing those who doubted that he was the mentally stronger player.

ok..but i would not say he was mentally weaker...i would say that roger hit some amazing shots in the breakers...

Char
07-08-2007, 02:26 PM
BTW this whole vendetta between fed and nadal has to stop its totally ridiculous...theyre both amazing players and totally classy guys. everytime one of them makes one unintentionally "cocky" comment every one on these boards jumps on it like theyre the absolute and complete model for tennis players everywhere. its totally pointless.

I couldnt agree more. I've been a Rafa fan for some time. I cant help but love his competitiveness and fight for every point, as well as his style. He's a class act. Really likable guy. Cheers for Federer too since rarely does one see such touch and precision, but I simply love watching Nadal play. They're both amazingly talented and both can do things that make you wonder in disbelief. Roger commands my greatest respect yet Rafa is my favorite player today. No need for fans of either to go at it. We ought to be happy about what we saw today. It was unreal really.

Ken B.
07-08-2007, 02:29 PM
He really had a chance today. You can't think of Nadal as a clay only player now. If they meet in the US Open perhaps, Nadal could win that one.

Zets147
07-08-2007, 02:35 PM
Look at this image...does he have NOTES written on his hand????? call me crazy, but there is writing on the palm of his hand...

http://sports.yahoo.com/ten/photo?slug=getty-74808440mt037_the_champions_9_43_34_am&prov=getty

I think it says, "Clay...." lol

Char
07-08-2007, 02:36 PM
Wording. I didn't say Nadal was mentally weak. I said he was mentally weaker than Federer. It was a comparison. That showed when Federer won the tie-breaks, showing those who doubted that he was the mentally stronger player.

I think the edge in serving played out there as well as on a couple Nadal break chances. Fed had aces up his sleeve, the potential for them, to help him in times like those and that made the difference. I personally wouldnt say it was any weakness in Nadal mentally. If anything, Rafa is a bit stronger in the mental department in my book, but you take the two of them and they are among the toughest opponents in the game mentally so it can go either way.

Zaragoza
07-08-2007, 02:38 PM
Saram,

Wording. I didn't say Nadal was mentally weak. I said he was mentally weaker than Federer. It was a comparison. That showed when Federer won the tie-breaks, showing those who doubted that he was the mentally stronger player.

It depends of what you consider mentally strong. Both were mentally strong IMO. I think Federer´s serve is what made the difference in the big points but sure only great champions serve so well in the big points. Nadal was also mentally strong because he managed to win the 2nd and 4th sets after losing the previous sets in the tie-breaks, playing against one of the greatest grasscourters ever. I think he is the only one able to do that against Federer on any surface. Federer´s serve is what made him win, not being mentally stronger than Nadal.

saram
07-08-2007, 02:58 PM
I think it says, "Clay...." lol

awesome comment!

Shabazza
07-08-2007, 03:01 PM
Roger commands my greatest respect yet Rafa is my favorite player today. No need for fans of either to go at it. We ought to be happy about what we saw today. It was unreal really.

Exactly! Just switch Federer and Rafa and you've written my post. Hell, I just copy yours and do it myself ;)

Nadal commands my greatest respect yet Federer is my favorite player today. No need for fans of either to go at it. We ought to be happy about what we saw today. It was unreal really. :p

MoFed
07-08-2007, 03:05 PM
I am a fan of Roger's. I love his game and movement. I honestly didn't think the Rafa would make it to the finals and he almost didn't. But credit to him, he fought for every single point and played like a person who deserved to be in the final. I have a new respect for him, but he still needs to prove himself as an all court player. I know he has won hard court tournaments, but this summer will be telling as to how much he's grown since last year. He has a lot of points to earn this hard court season. I wish him well, but I still want Roger to win.

jaykay
07-08-2007, 03:09 PM
Great posts, Shabazza and others.

I am defly a Fed fan but you have GOT to commend Rafa's heart. He truly played out of his mind most times during this match. I thoroughly enjoyed the final and it was truly a cliff-hanger/nail-biter.

I must say this; the moronic Rafa trolls on this board (I'll go ahead and name some of them - Simon Cowell, Atilla the Bum etc) are really the ones who rake up prejudice. Fed fans ought not to hate Rafa, who played with the heart of a champion, just because of idiotic Rafa trolls on this messg board.

Fed was off, but his serve saved him. I thought he played an outstanding 5th set. I really thought this championship belonged to Nadal after the conclusion of the 4th set.

Phenomenal drama, outstanding tennis befitting a Wimby final graced by a battle royale between 2 great players... what more can you ask? Fed trolls / Rafa trolls should call a truce really, since tennis is the victor.

I enjoyed this Sunday.

tricky
07-08-2007, 03:36 PM
I admired that Rafa came to the net again and again, whereas Fed at times seemed really intent on outslugging Rafa. In his way, he played truer to the surface than Fed did.

It was also great to see Fed dig himself out of the clear mental hole that he was in that 4th set. Fed's groundstrokes in the 5th set was some of the best of the year, hitting lines again and again. It was awesome. And it was also awesome to see Nadal still playing to win even though his UEs were going up.

couch
07-08-2007, 04:32 PM
I love Nadal and his game. I just don't like him as much when he's playing Federer that's all. I think they are both tremendous players and ambassadors for the game of tennis.

Richie Rich
07-08-2007, 04:46 PM
Were you skeptical and even perhaps a bit dismissive of Nadal, but have suddenly found yourself astonished by his skill?

Post here if this is so.

I am definitely, first and foremost, a fan of Federer's game. However I am completely on Nadal's bandwagon after this tournament.

I think that he is the greatest combo of athleticism and competitiveness since Pancho Gonzalez.

agreed. i think he will win wimbledon in he next 3 years. never thought he had a chance before today. except for a few sloppy points in the 5th set, nadal would have won.

TENNIS_99
07-08-2007, 07:09 PM
I am not sure about "converted". But I witness a young tennis player plays with all his heart and every aspect that phisically possible to reach the next level. And he is getting there. If anyone is a "tennis fan" not a fan to "movie star style", I don't why he/she should not appreciate his efforts.

Kalin
07-08-2007, 09:41 PM
I am a convert. Never had doubts about Nadal's ability but he has brought it to a new level. Add to that the hustle, the sportsmanship and the overall class.

holera
07-08-2007, 11:51 PM
I am almost positive Nadal will win Wimbledon next year. Especially if the event is organized better. Yes, the balls are very bouncy, but this won't change anytime soon. Wimbledon is slower than the US Open and it will stay that way for now.

And, most of all, I like the guy. Nadal has a natural small-town charm. He's not like ********s at all - in fact, those guys completely misinterpret Nadal's game and attitude. He's humble and honest. There's no Spartan crap - just honest, blue-collar tennis and great effort. Don't believe the smokescreen that the trolls are feeding here and don't hate Rafa for it.

Lastly, Nadal's versatility impressed me. His volleying is very good for today's tennis. His movement is spectacular side-to-side and front-to-back. He is extremely adaptable and no longer one-dimensional.

Lawn tennis embraces Rafa.

why? obviously it helps that wimbledon is nearly a clay event now, but he would have lost early if not for sudden injuries to his opponents. just because he's a terrible match-up for federer doesn't mean he's better than all others. it wasn't shocking at all when mahut beat him in queen's, or that soderling took it to 5, or that youzhny went up 2 sets before getting injured, or that djokovic won the 1st set.

brolycjw
07-09-2007, 01:32 AM
Interesting thread, because if he had converted more of those breakpoints he had, he would have converted more people.

93sq.
07-09-2007, 01:36 AM
Nope.
Why should a monster on clay-court who then appears to be a monster on the next nearest surface to clay (i.e. Wimbledon's p!ss-poor excuse for grass) convert anyone?
If he was that good, he'd have walked into the final at Queens too.

His performances at Aus Open and US Open significantly magnify his weaknesses.

Amen!!!!!!!!

Hot Sauce
07-09-2007, 01:44 AM
Saram,

Wording. I didn't say Nadal was mentally weak. I said he was mentally weaker than Federer. It was a comparison. That showed when Federer won the tie-breaks, showing those who doubted that he was the mentally stronger player.

Call me crazy, but I think Nadal is mentally stronger. He is always giving it the best he has, no matter the situation. You can never have enough safety when playing Nadal.

robin7
07-09-2007, 04:00 AM
I am almost positive Nadal will win Wimbledon next year.

Not only Wimbledon, Australian & US Open as well.

robin7
07-09-2007, 04:09 AM
He also lost both tie-breaks, being the mentally weaker player.

Nadal's losing both tie-breaks just showed Fed played the big points better.
Otherwise, Nadal should have beaten Fed in straight sets.

Nadal's still the mentally toughest guy on tour. No doubt about that.

tennis_hand
07-09-2007, 04:13 AM
Were you skeptical and even perhaps a bit dismissive of Nadal, but have suddenly found yourself astonished by his skill?

Post here if this is so.

I am definitely, first and foremost, a fan of Federer's game. However I am completely on Nadal's bandwagon after this tournament.

I think that he is the greatest combo of athleticism and competitiveness since Pancho Gonzalez.

Sure, of course.

I am a fan of Fed, but Nadal is the only player who has ever pushed Fed to the limit. Twice in the final of Wimbledon, although lost to Fed, he deserves much respect and a place in the Wimbledon history. If you feel sorry for Roddick, probably u should feel a little for Nadal too, although Nadal still has a lot of years to win it.

Wannabe
07-09-2007, 04:44 AM
...Federer seems to get through his early matches at Wimbledon really easily, whereas Nadal seems to really struggle. One might conclude from this that Federer is clearly the superior grasscourt player, and indeed I would have done this time yesterday. However, when they play head to head, Federer really seems to struggle against Nadal. I wonder whether anyone else has any thoughts on why this is.

My personal view is that Federer likes to construct points very carefully, playing slower balls that are unlikely to be winners, but which are almost impossible to hit winners off (particularly as he usually keeps the ball below net height with slice.) He then works the opponent into such a position that he has a large enough space to shoot a clean winner into and only then hits the ball with pace. He did this superbly against Gasquet, for example.

However, Nadal hits with such topspin that he can hit really hard from below net height without the ball sailing long. He can also run faster than his other opponents and go for winners when stretched. Federer thus feels rushed to go for a winner when he wouldn't against another player, and often ends up getting into heavy clay court style rallies against him, which Nadal usually wins (surprise surprise).

I think if Federer is to keep his Wimbledon crown, he needs to figure out how to dictate play against him. I hope that, even though he won that match Federer goes home and watches a tape of it to try to avoid the next one being played on Nadal's terms (at least when Nadal is serving) If not, next time it could easily go the other way.

What does everyone else think?

Thud and blunder
07-09-2007, 08:37 AM
Good thread.
Nadal really went up a couple of notches in my estimation.
And this match has really cranked their rivalry up to another level, which is fantastic for tennis. It was great that we got a battle, rather than a coronation, and it really opens the door to some mouth-watering clashes in the future. All tennis fans should be really happy about that.

Stinkdyr
07-09-2007, 08:43 AM
Nadal is now the guy to beat. The only question is whether he will tank anymore matches to Roger to enable Fed to break the title records. Stay tuned. Plenty of room for Nada's serve to improve. Plenty of room for Rog's volley and tactics to improve. Can Nada master hardcourts?

TheTruth
07-09-2007, 10:50 AM
Saram,

Wording. I didn't say Nadal was mentally weak. I said he was mentally weaker than Federer. It was a comparison. That showed when Federer won the tie-breaks, showing those who doubted that he was the mentally stronger player.

How do you ignore that Rafa played 7 days straight, and Fed rested for 5? Are you serious? Gasquet was exhausted after his 8:00 start. It was supposed to be after the ladies final. And Djokovic straight out retired. You have a problem analyzing things. That much is obvious!

CyBorg
07-09-2007, 12:46 PM
I've rewatched the match this morning.

Does anyone recall Federer's backhand at 1-0 40-30 (Nadal's serve) in the first set? That got the game to deuce and Roger eventually broke.

It was a great backhand, but notice the bounce of the ball - low and right in Roger's wheelhouse.

It will be a lot more like that at the US Open. Low balls to Roger's backhand and when this happens his one-hander is one of the best in the game.

Now, yesterday's matchup, as many are aware, had many high bounces to Roger's backhand and that really hurt him - so much so that he was almost lucky to win the match. Big sigh of relief for him.

I see a big return to form at the US Open. We'll see a convincing victory from Federer and a minor letdown from Nadal. The fast indoor courts should also be of benefit to Roger, especially Shanghai and Paris (less so Madrid).

The Aussie is Nadal's to lose.

FEDEXP
07-09-2007, 12:59 PM
All credit due to Nadal for his play yesterday though I'm not a convert. Based on the Djocovich-Hewitt match and the Gasquet Roddick one, I'd like to see those two winners come up with slams.

ATXtennisaddict
07-09-2007, 01:10 PM
Were you skeptical and even perhaps a bit dismissive of Nadal, but have suddenly found yourself astonished by his skill?

Post here if this is so.

I am definitely, first and foremost, a fan of Federer's game. However I am completely on Nadal's bandwagon after this tournament.

I think that he is the greatest combo of athleticism and competitiveness since Pancho Gonzalez.

I am exactly the same way except I became a fan of Nadal at the begining of the year or last year, I don't remember.

I remember hating his game, thinking it was "ugly" but honestly, I enjoy it now. I enjoy his off court personality, his on court toughness...I respect him a lot.

I'm a big Federer fan though so sometimes I hope Nadal loses because I'm afraid of what he could do to Federer. Nadal has that much respect from me and it's not that I am disrespecting Federer, it's just that it's tough for me to watch their matches. I remember sweating profusely during last year's FO final, yelling while watching the match etc.

sramirez77
07-09-2007, 02:45 PM
I was already a big Nadal fan, but I couldn't agree more with your comments. I can guarantee his performances at the US and Australian will be improving as well (remember he was injured at the Australian this year and absolutely exhausted in the 2nd half of 2006).

Bodacious DVT
07-09-2007, 02:48 PM
no, he hasnt converted me. he's obviously very good and is learning to adapt to all surfaces, but i just dont like his style/character, which wont change and neither will my opinion of him. he's a great player, just not my type.

omniexist
07-09-2007, 03:05 PM
Nadal want to be the new Borg. Problem is, Borg had a big serve...that a person needs at Wimby. Right now, Nadal reminds me of Agassi when he was hot and won Wimby. Sure it's possible, but without a big serve providing easy points matches are gonna be harder.

AAAA
07-09-2007, 03:08 PM
The Aussie is Nadal's to lose.

I seem to remember a dicussion after this year's Aus Open about a plan to speed up the courts for next year.

FEDEXP
07-09-2007, 03:16 PM
True, they said at the AO that they were ditching Rebound Ace and going for a faster surface.

Polaris
07-09-2007, 03:17 PM
Were you skeptical and even perhaps a bit dismissive of Nadal ...
No.

..., but have suddenly found yourself astonished by his skill?

Yes, by his ability to adjust on grass and pass almost at will.

But "converted?"
No.

anointedone
07-09-2007, 03:19 PM
I am almost positive Nadal will win Wimbledon next year.

I would like to see Nadal win Wimbledon once, but to say you are almost certain he will win it next year is plain dumb. I think he might win it once in his career, and that would be great, but he probably wont be the favorite any one year, and your almost certain he wins next year way over the top. Remember you are the one who said you were almost certain Shrieakapova would win Wimbledon and she had her *** handed to her by Venus Williams in the 4th round. So your word of certainty is probably a bad omen for Nadal.

ledor
07-09-2007, 03:20 PM
In terms of conversion, you dream about having that sort of fight, if say you were down 3-1, or love-40, you know, to keep the same intensity if you were up. Also, I'll trade my arms to look like his arms. On the other hand, I wouldn't grow out my hair that long though. It's time for a haircut.

anointedone
07-09-2007, 03:21 PM
The Aussie is Nadal's to lose.

Another dumb statement. They have sped the courts up in Australia, and he has yet to get past the quarters there. I think he has a chance to win there but to say it is his to lose is incredibly wrong. You really are on a roll after your Sharapova gaurantee. Please dont go on jinxing other good players with your nonsense.

CyBorg
07-09-2007, 05:02 PM
I would like to see Nadal win Wimbledon once, but to say you are almost certain he will win it next year is plain dumb. I think he might win it once in his career, and that would be great, but he probably wont be the favorite any one year, and your almost certain he wins next year way over the top. Remember you are the one who said you were almost certain Shrieakapova would win Wimbledon and she had her *** handed to her by Venus Williams in the 4th round. So your word of certainty is probably a bad omen for Nadal.

Did I mention that I'm Bud Collins' brother Fred Collins?

anointedone
07-09-2007, 05:04 PM
Did I mention that I'm Bud Collins' brother Fred Collins?

Cool. That must be why you are so awful at predictions like Bud Collins is. :p I think he was probably fired for making so many dumb predictions and always being wrong.

CyBorg
07-09-2007, 05:06 PM
Another dumb statement. They have sped the courts up in Australia, and he has yet to get past the quarters there. I think he has a chance to win there but to say it is his to lose is incredibly wrong. You really are on a roll after your Sharapova gaurantee. Please dont go on jinxing other good players with your nonsense.

In fairness to Sharapova she lost to the eventual champion, the lady who was blowing everyone out of the water. But, oh well - la dee da.

CyBorg
07-09-2007, 05:08 PM
Cool. That must be why you are so awful at predictions like Bud Collins is. :p I think he was probably fired for making so many dumb predictions and always being wrong.

I'm a technicolour jacket away from getting banned for my predictions, but let's wait until after the US Open.

anointedone
07-09-2007, 05:09 PM
In fairness to Sharapova she lost to the eventual champion, the lady who was blowing everyone out of the water. But, oh well - la dee da.

Yeah but her easiest score was against Sharapova. Not to mention Sharapova got her butt whooped in all 3 slams this year when she lost. It is like many of us said and commentators said as well, that if you take away her one dimensional game she becomes almost naked on the court (a picture many guys would love anyway, but I am speaking in strictly tennis terms here ;) ). She doesnt have any plan B, or any alternative to her game if you shut down her power game. She will be lucky to win 2 more slams the rest of her career. I wouldnt be shocked if she never won another one in fact. I am glad of that since I hate her too.

anointedone
07-09-2007, 05:11 PM
I'm a technicolour jacket away from getting banned for my predictions, but let's wait until after the US Open.

You made safe predictions for the U.S Open though. You went with Federer, and you havent yet called something crazy on the womens side like Maria winning again. So that means you are safe until the Aussie Open.

10sfreak
07-09-2007, 05:19 PM
I'm still a Federer fan (LOVE his game - so fluid!), but Nadal is growing on me as his game becomes more varied, especially at the net. Now, if he would just keep his fingers out of his ***!

CyBorg
07-09-2007, 06:00 PM
Yeah but her easiest score was against Sharapova. Not to mention Sharapova got her butt whooped in all 3 slams this year when she lost. It is like many of us said and commentators said as well, that if you take away her one dimensional game she becomes almost naked on the court (a picture many guys would love anyway, but I am speaking in strictly tennis terms here ;) ). She doesnt have any plan B, or any alternative to her game if you shut down her power game. She will be lucky to win 2 more slams the rest of her career. I wouldnt be shocked if she never won another one in fact. I am glad of that since I hate her too.

You're too harsh, but if you think that I really care how Sharapova fares from now on you're mistaken.

But I do love the signature - keep it on after Rafa wins Aussie.;)

CyBorg
07-09-2007, 06:01 PM
You made safe predictions for the U.S Open though. You went with Federer, and you havent yet called something crazy on the womens side like Maria winning again. So that means you are safe until the Aussie Open.

I haven't made my ladies' picks yet. I'll save those for later - I have scouting to do.