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blitzmage_89
08-07-2007, 06:24 AM
Back when I was playing basketball during high school , when a noob player uses the "big basketball bag" to store his stuff and brings it when playing, he often gets regarded by more skilled players as a poser athlete or something. The main idea of this weird mentality is that noob players don't have the right to use showy stuff like in this case the basketball bag. I wonder if this is the same in the tennis world? I'm planning to buy a 6-pack Yonex bag because a backpack seems way to inconvenient already but there's always that above mentality. Guys at my club are sometimes jerks who pick on those still in tennis training.

Nuke
08-07-2007, 06:34 AM
I do think it's a bit funny when a newbie brings a six pack of Pure Drives to a match, but I don't give him a hard time over it.

Serve em Up
08-07-2007, 07:13 AM
Your game should speak for you, not your stuff. I try to be understated. I use a backpack bag and dress for the place of play. I save my color coordinated wear for the club. If I'm playing at the public park, I dress down.

Anybody playing any amount of tennis really needs some type of bag. My eyebrows only get raised when I see guys with those enormous bags, color coordinated outfits, beautiful new color coordinated shoes. If your going to show up looking like Federrer, you'd better have some game.

That's my .02

raiden031
08-07-2007, 07:20 AM
If your going to show up looking like Federrer, you'd better have some game.


I think its stupid for anyone to go out of their way to buying all these accessories or expensive clothing and shoes to look like a pro whether they are beginner or advanced (but not actually a touring pro), if the sole reason is to impress people. I notice with women at my clubs, they are more concerned with their tennis attire than their game. I don't notice as much with the adult men though. I imagine with juniors its about having the racquets and bags. All stupid IMO. But I don't think good players are any more entitled to be poseurs than beginners are.

Klatu Verata Necktie
08-07-2007, 07:41 AM
If you're judging people based on the stuff they have aren't you being just as shallow as they are? Let people do as they please. If having nice things makes someone happy, why rain on their parade?

king of swing
08-07-2007, 08:02 AM
I agree with server em up if your gonna look like federer you schould have some skill to back it up... but I mean if you just have a bag of stuff and your not trying to be all showy then... why not??

psamp14
08-07-2007, 08:05 AM
what you are calling "right and privilege" is true in all sports....

in general i have seen that beginners in tennis carry only 1 racquet, or a 3 racquet bag to carry their stuff in....but getting a 6 racquet bag doesnt really show others you're really good or present yourself as a poser

however the less limelight the area, the less flashy i would try to look

generally i wear neutral type clothing and color of clothing but if i am playing at a public facility i try to look like an average tennis player (appearance)....but at the tennis centers and private clubs, bring your full gear

but the bottom line is your game that speaks for itself, so dont worry about appearance, just work on your game

Jefar
08-07-2007, 08:09 AM
It's always been my opinion that people should earn the right to play in polo shirts. I really don't know why, but whenever I see a low 3.5 or 3.0 player in fancy clothes, especially polos, it just makes me want to laugh. To give some perspective, though, one of the best players I know doesn't even wear dry fit stuff most of the time. The only expensive thing he ever has on is a lacoste hat.

AmericanTemplar
08-07-2007, 10:26 AM
I think that it's more a question of how much you play rather than how well you play. I think that it is lamer to be a decent tennis player who shows up to the courts once a month decked out in flashy gear, than it is to be a beginner who spends everyday at the courts trying to improve and invests in good equipment. For the most part, I'm either in work clothes or tennis clothes and I like to look and feel good in both. That being said, I don't understand why some people carry a 6-racquet and only have one racquet.

Serve em Up
08-07-2007, 12:17 PM
If you're judging people based on the stuff they have aren't you being just as shallow as they are?

I resemble that remark!!!!

My guess is that each of us to some degree resemble that remark.

WildVolley
08-07-2007, 02:55 PM
I think this is partly a response to rich kids. Often, the better athletes are not from money. So they feel a little jealousy when someone with less talent has much better gear.

I don't know why it surprises the rich kids that ostentatious displays of wealth might bring jealousy?

Personally, it doesn't bother me. I don't mind being around rich people as long as they aren't a-holes.

I carry a 6-racquet bag because I can bring extra shoes, towels, hats, waterbottles, etc, in a single bag, even though I'm usually only hauling two racquets. When I play for 3-hours at a time in the sun, it is nice to have that extra gear.

blitzmage_89
08-07-2007, 04:36 PM
i'm planning to buy a 3-pack because I only have one racquet and i didn't see the importance of getting an expensive $30 bag only for a racquet. Right now I'm using a normal trekking backpack to store my things and my racket. But the racquet's size is too big for the backpack so it ends up rattling the bag's zipper open as I walk.

Klatu Verata Necktie
08-07-2007, 05:14 PM
You guys shouldn't have to defend your equipment. Whether or not you show up to a match with a gold plated 12 pack bag or a cardboard box, you still have to play the match on the court. Players who get annoyed with other people's stuff reveal personal insecurities and shouldn't make you feel self conscious.

iplaybetter
08-07-2007, 05:25 PM
i cary a Tecnifibre tour 9 and it is small for what it is and i need the space i cary 3 rackets and a lot of stuff so it works, no one needs anything bigger i just laugh at the people with super sixes

goober
08-07-2007, 06:11 PM
Tennis bags are pretty standard gear at clubs both private and public. You definitely will not be a poser. Even drifit clothing of some sort is not really that showy imo. To really stand out you have to match from head to toe with the latest models of clothing and have a huge bag with 4-6 of the same racquet

TheShaun
08-07-2007, 08:39 PM
i have a nike bag that i bought because i couldn't resist the price, $20! but i have yet to use it. i think i'd feel weird with it, it's huge and i have nothing to put in it.

ProStaff Legend
08-08-2007, 04:15 PM
i dont look down on others for doing it but i wouldnt do it myself. i hav 1 racquet that i carry in my hands, i dont need a bag. spares would be nice but since i use a wilson, im worried about quality control

ubel
08-08-2007, 04:38 PM
All fun and games until the poser with the huge bag starts schooling people :o

OP: don't be afraid of what other people think, if you need the bag, do what you gotta do. people who make fun of others for their equipment are generally not confident in their own games and feel a need to draw attention away from themselves so that their imperfections aren't as noticeable. these people are ******** and both a) need to realize that it's just a game and b) need to be ignored or YOU won't be able to enjoy the game. g'luck man :)

chlsmo
08-08-2007, 11:12 PM
Well I've been playing for ten months (two lessons a week, one clinic a week, and practice/hitting sessions on 3-4 other days a week), and I have/use the following: Wilson nCode 6 pack bag, Two nSix-One 95's, One K95, My old Fischer racquet, Nike Air Max Breathe 3's (probly my 6th pair of tennis shoes), 5 Nike Tennis shorts, 8 Nike Tennis Polos, 2 Reebok Polos, a Lacoste Sport Polo, Prince NEOS, dozens of wristbands and bandanas and headbands etc, Wilson Overgrip reels, a Case of tennis balls, etc etc.

Im 25 and love tennis. I bought everything at outlets and/or used (NEOS) or I got them as gifts. Basically I'm not as good as a lot of people (not even in that great of shape) BUT I care about my tennis, and I wear a lot of the clothes outside the courts too. Sometimes I try not to match my clothes, and think about only bringing a minimum of things to court (to avoid any scrutinizing eyes) but invariably I end up wishing I had brought something E.G. a new overgrip etc.

So I don't know if I am the guy you TTW-ers dislike, but I try not to just buy to have, rather, I try to buy to use. :0)

dave333
08-09-2007, 04:48 AM
I use a 6 pack even though I only have 2 racquets. I chuck in my school clothes after I change, towels, shoes, sunscreen, ipod, cellphone, maybe schoolbooks that aren't fitting, etc.

Silent
08-09-2007, 05:47 AM
I'm planning on getting a bag. I looked at a few of them and decided to go with a 6-pack, even though I'm not Roger Federer and even though I have only 2 racquets. Why ? Because the difference in price between that one and the 3 pack is so small that there is absolutely no reason to get a smaller one. Do I really want to save $5 that bad ?

I do make a point of not getting the bright orange one because I simply don't like flashy things. However, more often than not, tennis equipment is flashy and that's the end of it, so I really don't care about what others bring to the court, except for their game.

AmericanTemplar
08-09-2007, 09:24 AM
Tennis bags are pretty standard gear at clubs both private and public. You definitely will not be a poser. Even drifit clothing of some sort is not really that showy imo. To really stand out you have to match from head to toe with the latest models of clothing and have a huge bag with 4-6 of the same racquet


I agree. I see players of all skill levels wielding 6 packs. I think that 6 pack users who actually carry 6 racquets are in the minority. I use a 6 pack and usually carry 3 racquets but I have 4 more and sometimes people will give me their racquets to string so it fills up quite easily. If I were to regularly carry 6 racquets, then I would probably buy a 12 pack or at least a 9 pack.

As far as "posers" go, the worst thing that I see around here are hipsters who play tennis as a retro novelty with dated equipment, headbands, short shorts, and knee-high tube socks. Those are the people who I really wanna deck--them and the people who wear bandanas.

ohplease
08-09-2007, 09:39 AM
Back when I was playing basketball during high school , when a noob player uses the "big basketball bag" to store his stuff and brings it when playing, he often gets regarded by more skilled players as a poser athlete or something. The main idea of this weird mentality is that noob players don't have the right to use showy stuff like in this case the basketball bag. I wonder if this is the same in the tennis world? I'm planning to buy a 6-pack Yonex bag because a backpack seems way to inconvenient already but there's always that above mentality. Guys at my club are sometimes jerks who pick on those still in tennis training.

You can spend a LONG time checking out other people's steez and giving them props/no props. Unfortunately, style points, either in your gear or your game, have almost no bearing on how badly you hand out beat downs or vice versa.

Buy the bag because it'll solve a problem, then go solve more problems in the form of your game, the other guys' games, etc.

Personally, I honestly don't care what gear or style someone brings to the party, as long as they're good people and can ball, then we're down.

heninfan99
08-02-2010, 04:58 AM
You should play with a single sub-$50 racquet with free bag until you're a 4.0. AND walk to the club barefoot. Otherwise you're a poser :-)

It is gratifying to crush a guy with 6 new Babolats with a used, demo stick.

justsomeguy
08-02-2010, 05:28 AM
Wow, zombie thread.

When I started playing tennis I used my old basketball shoes and some cut off sweats. It kinda sucked. The pockets were small and the shoes tore up fast. I had a racquet from Big 5 that I paid $30 for, and grabbed a bag of crappy Wilson practice balls to go with it. I used the racquet cover that came with it for a bag, stuffing a bottle of water inside.

After a month or so, I was over it. I ordered up some real tennis shoes and a pair of shorts. Then I bought a new stick. Then I got some polo shirts and a 6 racquet bag.

I was at the court one day playing some mixed dubs with friends, when this dude showed up on the other court. He had one stick of unknown origin, some crappy looking running shoes, corduroy shorts, t-shirt, and a basket of balls. He proceeded to hit serves that I thought were "pro level" at the time. Really nice, deep serves with huge spin. I was awestruck by this scrubby guy and his big game. He was very nice, but the look on his face told me I sucked.

It wasn't a conscious decision, but over the years I have toned it all the way down. The shoes are long gone, but I still have those original tennis shorts I bought. They are missing half the threads, but I don't really care. My other shorts and shoes came from the auction site or the clearance rack. I wear t-shirts, and don't care if I color coordinate or not. The 6 pack bag is long dead and a backpack takes it's place now. I still have the visor I started playing in, and it's falling apart, but I love it and can't find another I like as well.

I am still not as good as that scrubby dude I saw that day, nor do I dress quite as badly, but I never have to feel like a tool on court.

I don't care if a newb dresses like Fed or Nads and sucks. I think buying all that stuff is part of the fun for some people. Doesn't hurt me in the least. OTOH, I am impressed when I see those people that look like they came to the wrong place but can really play. YMMV.

10ACE
08-02-2010, 05:35 AM
Back when I was playing basketball during high school , when a noob player uses the "big basketball bag" to store his stuff and brings it when playing, he often gets regarded by more skilled players as a poser athlete or something. The main idea of this weird mentality is that noob players don't have the right to use showy stuff like in this case the basketball bag. I wonder if this is the same in the tennis world? I'm planning to buy a 6-pack Yonex bag because a backpack seems way to inconvenient already but there's always that above mentality. Guys at my club are sometimes jerks who pick on those still in tennis training.

Never care what others think. Their concerns do not effect yours. Ur reasons for getting a 6 racquet bag.

gbc08
08-02-2010, 11:59 AM
I think you're thinking too hard on this. Just get the bag and enjoy. Dress up, dress down, big bag, no bag.....I would spend less time trying to figure out how to fit in and more time figuring how to get better, so i can enjoy the game

struggle
08-02-2010, 12:07 PM
i tote a huge 12 pack bag, yet only keep 3-4 frames in it. seems silly at times, but the bag was free and i can heap loads of other extras in it too.

no worries.

Gasolina
08-02-2010, 12:48 PM
Yeah I order a 3-racquet bag a while ago and am paying for it right now. I should've bought a 6-pack so I could put my work clothes, shoes, gatorade, some towels, an extra t-shirt, along with other random stuff like overgrips and strings and balls of course.

ilikephobo
08-02-2010, 09:56 PM
Seriously if you can. A backpack is the way to go.

jmnk
08-02-2010, 10:48 PM
Seriously if you can. A backpack is the way to go.

but it is hard to fit 12-pack in a backpack. :)

Tdot
08-02-2010, 11:52 PM
The way to judge a person is by looking at how he treats other people not how he looks or what he wears.

High Roller
08-03-2010, 05:22 AM
[QUOTE=ohplease;1650954]

Buy the bag because it'll solve a problem, then go solve more problems in the form of your game, the other guys' games, etc.

/QUOTE]

THIS!

Donny0627
08-03-2010, 07:18 AM
I think that it's more a question of how much you play rather than how well you play. I think that it is lamer to be a decent tennis player who shows up to the courts once a month decked out in flashy gear, than it is to be a beginner who spends everyday at the courts trying to improve and invests in good equipment. For the most part, I'm either in work clothes or tennis clothes and I like to look and feel good in both. That being said, I don't understand why some people carry a 6-racquet and only have one racquet.

I understand what you mean here, but at the same time i kinda disagree...

I really only carry 3 rackets with me, but whenever i get a new bag, I always buy the biggest option available(in the "line" i want), because i can always use the extra racket compartments to carry other crap(extra clothes, overgrips, strings, towels, etc...) which i seem to have a lot of...

Irvin
08-03-2010, 07:25 AM
Several years ago I was playing tennis with some friends and was a new guy came up and sat down with a Beer in one hand, two more in plastic in the other hand along with an old wooden racket.

This guy watched for a while then as one guy was about to leave he asked if he wanted to hit. A few unkind remarks were made and the last one I remember is, "I have never been beaten by a drunk with a wooden racket." Big mistake 6-0, 6-0. Later they became good friends.

Think of what would happen if one of these long haired scruffy looking dudes on the ATP walked up to your courts and wanted to hit and you had no idea of who they were. The last thing you want to do is upset them.

Who cares what you bring on the court?

Irvin

High Roller
08-03-2010, 08:44 AM
^^^^^^^

Just classic. :-)

princetohead
08-03-2010, 09:42 PM
Many people who belong to a private tennis club are financially more privileged than most tennis pros (tournament pros or teaching pros). Consider that only top 150 in the world can make break-even or better. Thus, that those privileged people spending their own money, a lot of money, to support the industry, which in turn supports the poor pros, just makes sense and is called redistribution of wealth and a part of free market mechanism. Whether you are 2.0 or 5.5, if you have money and want to spend, spend. It's good for the tennis industry ecosystem.

LetsGoRoddick
08-04-2010, 12:05 AM
i used to use a sports bag, but i didn't bring too much to the courts. now its just a plain blue bag that i got for free, you know, the ones you have to pull on the strings to close the bag. I keep two packs of tennis balls, a spare shirt, my phone/wallet/ipod and one or two bottles of water. I carry my racquet in my hand.

As for apparel, most days i wear a simple white undershirt(I have a dozen or so of these), but if I feel like it, I use dryfits. All my dryfits are just a single plain color(no design). I use basketball shorts, and they are a bit on the flashy/shiny end, but I can't really help it when I buy them, who would buy something ugly?

I can't really help it when I buy them, who would want to buy something ugly?- that's probably why you get some people looking really flashy. They just bought something they liked, and took it to the courts to put it to use.

ayuname
08-04-2010, 12:56 AM
Yo swag is yo swag. Don't let them haters be jockin' on you mayne. You gots to show them that you ain't no scrub, a scrub is a guy who can't get no points from you.

:)

SirGounder
08-04-2010, 08:53 AM
I personally carry a 12 pack bag with me anytime I'm at the courts. I wear my hat backwards with Oakley sunglasses. Nike CB 2.3's with the accompanying Nadal clothing. Everything matches of course. My drinks are always aligned perfectly next to my bag.

I keep six Head Metallix 10 racquets in my bag, freshly strung full Lux at 68 lbs for extra control. You should see the fear in people's faces when I pull the racquet out of the poly bag and toss it over my shoulder for someone else to pick up. I use a Fed forehand, Nadal backhand, with a Sharapova shriek (I tried the Azarenka but lost my voice after 5 min).

Honestly though none of my stuff matches. When I first got my 6 pack, I felt a bit goofy carrying it around because I caught a lot of attention (it had just come out). 4 years later and nobody looks twice. I usually go straight from work to the courts so it's nice to be able to carry my 2 sticks, clothes, etc. Nothing matches though. I spend a bit on shoes because I think they are more important than clothes for tennis.

If you are decent I don't think people can truly give you crap about your gear. I have to admit that it's funny to see somebody wearing all the pro stuff and 4 matching K6.1's playing mixed doubles for 2 hours.

Power Player
08-04-2010, 09:15 AM
I really do not care what anyone chooses to wear. It is a non issue to me. I have a dunlop bag and dunlop racquets. I like to try and grab dry fit clothes when I can at Ross since Florida heat is a killer. If I play at a high end tennis club, I dress according to their rules since I am a guest.

Anybody who cares too much about what someone else is wearing is lame. I hit with guys who have all sorts of racquets and all sorts of clothes. I pay way more attention to the quality of their shots coming at me then anything else.

jonline
08-05-2010, 05:32 PM
Bigger bags are a thing of convenience sometimes. If you're carrying a few racquets, a bunch of water/gatorade, overgrips, etc., I don't think it's at all above anyone to have a nice six-pack bag. It's just a bag, after all.

MomentumGT
08-05-2010, 05:52 PM
I have a huge racket bag. . .Dunlop 10 pack. I have 4 Dunlops, 5 Head rackets I used in college, balls, drink, and a few extra clothes. I got the HUGE bag because one of my bros thought it was a good idea to sell my Head rackets in one of our garage sales. :evil: Thank gawd I was there in time to stop him. Now I keep them with me in a bag so nothing like that happens again. LOL.

I don't wear matching brands and or color coordinate, if it happens it was by accident, but I do like to have flashy shoes that can be seen from 5-6 courts down. lol. I get some stares from other people at the courts because one pair is full on red with white accents. I personally feel I have enough game to justify my flashy/ugly shoes.

-Jon

tiochaota
08-05-2010, 06:37 PM
Lol I wear home clothes and play some time with my converse shoes casual wear shoes

cghipp
08-05-2010, 08:07 PM
I use a 6 pack even though I only have 2 racquets. I chuck in my school clothes after I change, towels, shoes, sunscreen, ipod, cellphone, maybe schoolbooks that aren't fitting, etc.What he said. I used to play a lot right after work, and I wanted to fit everything in one bag. The last thing I needed was to have to schlep a duffle, tennis bag, laptop bag, purse, and maybe a lunch bag in and out of the office. So, my giant bag held two racquets and a ton of other stuff.

(Bizarro-me would say, "I need that giant bag to hold all of my GAME!")

Kirko
08-06-2010, 05:10 AM
Back when I was playing basketball during high school , when a noob player uses the "big basketball bag" to store his stuff and brings it when playing, he often gets regarded by more skilled players as a poser athlete or something. The main idea of this weird mentality is that noob players don't have the right to use showy stuff like in this case the basketball bag. I wonder if this is the same in the tennis world? I'm planning to buy a 6-pack Yonex bag because a backpack seems way to inconvenient already but there's always that above mentality. Guys at my club are sometimes jerks who pick on those still in tennis training.

I never liked it some guys with "maybe" a bit better game or strokes drubbing on the guys who don't, I guess that will never change. I always buy tennis clothes on sale and use them until they get pretty bad, the very nice stuff I get as gifts I wear after I play and then use them when the other stuff goes "south". the three big things to have in tennis are racket,strings & shoes, I never comprised there. with that being said you need a bag and bigger is better for a regular guy playing tennis because you can fit towels, some clothes and bottled water. I don't carry multiple rackets only one which I like when I get it the way I want I want to play it forever and would rather quit if the string breaks and come back again. I use a dunlpop nine-pack I got a great deal on at the pro shop I go to. I carry balls and other stuff, very convienent.

SheLovesMyPlowThrough
08-09-2010, 02:07 PM
In my opinion, do whatever you want. Personally, I used to carry a tennis bag with all my strings, og's, racquets, balls, etc. After a while it got inconvenient. Now when I go to the park to play with friends, I just take the one racquet I want to use, currently the Aerogel 200, and like three balls. There's really no point to bring a huge bag full of stuff if you're only using the above. Tournaments are different, but if you're just playing friendly, just carry the essentials, everyone I know does the same. It's not just more humble, it's also just more practical.

parasailing
08-09-2010, 10:57 PM
If you have the means to purchase nice things, why should you let it bother you? It's a luxury to be able to afford nice clothes and good equipment and one should be able to enjoy it as long as you treat people with respect and you are not a snob.

Even at the public courts I play at, six pack or larger racquet bags are commonplace. I have a six pack bag and every bit of space comes in handy. I can carry 3 racquets, 3 or 4 bottles of water, some tennis balls, extra clothing, sunscreen, etc.... all in the convenience of one bag.

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saigonbond
08-10-2010, 09:18 PM
Back when I was playing basketball during high school , when a noob player uses the "big basketball bag" to store his stuff and brings it when playing, he often gets regarded by more skilled players as a poser athlete or something. The main idea of this weird mentality is that noob players don't have the right to use showy stuff like in this case the basketball bag. I wonder if this is the same in the tennis world? I'm planning to buy a 6-pack Yonex bag because a backpack seems way to inconvenient already but there's always that above mentality. Guys at my club are sometimes jerks who pick on those still in tennis training.

Posers can't play. Can you play?

genius24
08-11-2010, 07:04 AM
Back when I was playing basketball during high school , when a noob player uses the "big basketball bag" to store his stuff and brings it when playing, he often gets regarded by more skilled players as a poser athlete or something. The main idea of this weird mentality is that noob players don't have the right to use showy stuff like in this case the basketball bag. I wonder if this is the same in the tennis world? I'm planning to buy a 6-pack Yonex bag because a backpack seems way to inconvenient already but there's always that above mentality. Guys at my club are sometimes jerks who pick on those still in tennis training.

guys at your club need to grow up.....

GarrettReid
08-17-2010, 09:38 PM
I would buy what suits you. If you need a 6 pack bag, then get it. I have a 3 pack bag that I bought that just doesn't suit my needs, so I'll replace it.

princetohead
08-18-2010, 09:27 PM
guys at your club need to grow up.....

Completely. Those insecure people, for whatever reason, can't help but criticizing to feel better about themselves.

AhmedD
08-18-2010, 10:26 PM
It's alright to have big bags if they fit your needs, and have nice color coordinated clothes but your game should always be a priority above those. Everyone has the right to do as they please to feel happy I dont mind. My young bro only has two racquets, junior ones at that, he already had a two pack babolat to fit what was neccesary, racquet, balls, money, and extra shirts if required. Then out of the blue ordered a Head Djokovic Monstercombi, which even he himself would be able to fit in it. Regarding the clothes I mostly purchase from nike so most of my wear is coordinated, but you'll rarely see me wear completely coordinated clothing if it I'm not playing a match or going to another club to play, but I never buy anything to show off, I just find the high-end clothing to be very comfortable.

Captain Tezuka
02-04-2012, 10:18 PM
If you have the means to purchase nice things, why should you let it bother you? It's a luxury to be able to afford nice clothes and good equipment and one should be able to enjoy it as long as you treat people with respect and you are not a snob.

Even at the public courts I play at, six pack or larger racquet bags are commonplace. I have a six pack bag and every bit of space comes in handy. I can carry 3 racquets, 3 or 4 bottles of water, some tennis balls, extra clothing, sunscreen, etc.... all in the convenience of one bag.

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Oh so that's why I'm always thirsty I carry 1 bottle of water. Hm maybe I should buy those cheap 6 packs of water or more from Safeway/Coles. :D
Yeah some guys at school and stuff have huge bags good for them going to deck out after I demo some racquets. Game is ULTRA important as well as manners. Gear not so much as long as it fits and looks after your health and enables you to play at your best then what ever to those people who are so sad as to bother with omg you have a HUGE 15PACK and can't play well who cares you just get on with your game mate.

ATP100
02-04-2012, 11:36 PM
Back when I was playing basketball during high school , when a noob player uses the "big basketball bag" to store his stuff and brings it when playing, he often gets regarded by more skilled players as a poser athlete or something. The main idea of this weird mentality is that noob players don't have the right to use showy stuff like in this case the basketball bag. I wonder if this is the same in the tennis world? I'm planning to buy a 6-pack Yonex bag because a backpack seems way to inconvenient already but there's always that above mentality. Guys at my club are sometimes jerks who pick on those still in tennis training.


Ask yourself:

Who's in charge of your emotions?

Fuji
02-05-2012, 02:57 PM
Wow, old thread being brought up.

Anywho, I carry a 9 stick bag with me since it's what I need, and even then it's a bit small. 5-6 sticks with me on average, a few extra shirts and hats, extra socks, tons of water, snacks, and some other stuff. At the club I play at, I'm one of the "minimalist" players, most guys are carrying my rig plus more, so it's pretty consistent.

At the parks I bring the same bag. Who cares what people think? I've never had anyone say anything about what I carry LOL!

-Fuji

Andreas1965
02-05-2012, 11:01 PM
Whenever I bought a new bag, I experienced that a feww weeks later it turned out to be too small ;) , so I ended up with the 2011 Djokovic Monstercombi.
In my opinion a tennis bag can't be too big.

6 racquets, 2 pair of shoes, towels, spare shirts and shorts, warm- up clothes, ballcans, wristbands, grips. When entering a tournament or an away game I add all the stuff you need for shower after your match, which sums up to more towels, underwear, liquid soap (showergel), flipflops (you do not want fungus, eh?)...

No way a smaller bag than a monstercombi could master this.


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Ducker
02-05-2012, 11:28 PM
I once saw a somone playing wearing a bandana, red nike polo, grey nike shorts, nike shoes and a ksixonetour 90. He was average height and out of shape. Even more strange was that not only did his gear mimic federers but he did too. He had the 1 handed back hand and did other things that you see federer do. He wasnt that good, but even if he was everyone thought less of him for how he dress/acted.

Moral of the story be yourself and then you wont have to worry about anything. The bag you choose is not big deal. Where you have to worry is when you start wearing ALL the same gear as a pro player and try to act like them on court lol.

onehandbh
02-06-2012, 10:18 AM
I agree with some of the other posters. Wear, bring, use, whatever you
like. There's this bodybuilder I met once who likes to wear super tight
jeans, super tight shirt. When he meets new people, one of the first things he
says is: (with a big 80's commericial style smile)

"I know you're all probably thinking, Mike, why are your jeans so tight?
I'll tell you why! Because I like it that way. That's the way I like it!"

zorcy3
02-07-2012, 06:53 AM
Ok, I am just starting out. I have shoes for just the court. I have a racquet. I am ready to play. My wife was so embarrassed, she gave me a bag to at least go on the court with. I really didn't care. I do not have the skill to know that my hands were slippery or that I can improve a dismal game with some special device in my bag. I may look foolish walking out with just a water and racquet, but you forget that really fast when you see my skills. You will laugh for some time, as she does.

Now I use the bag she gave me. It holds knee braces, pain killer and a towel. I feel like a pro now. Did I mention it was an old, one racquet, tennis bag? Good enough for my skill. If we all came with the equipment that matched our skills, then the match would be over once I saw their bag.

As far as the clothes, I like some of the outfits the ladies wear. Keep it up!!!

ArliHawk
02-07-2012, 07:22 AM
Seems to me that you should be able to wear and use whatever you like. If you're particular, and like to match, go ahead and match. It's your life, not somebody else's.

beernutz
02-07-2012, 10:51 AM
Worrying about what other players carry or wear must be a young person thing because in all the time I've played organized tennis I have never heard a team mate or another player comment on what someone brings to the court or what they wear. Of course almost all of the people I play with are over 30 too.

Even if a 3.5 player is carrying a 12-pack it doesn't mean they have a big ego. My partner last night has a daughter who played D1 tennis and she got a ton of gear for free, much of which was given back to her dad after she graduated. Plus he'd bought her a boatload of gear when she was a junior. Consequently he's got multiple 12-packs full of racquets and other gear which he still uses and why shouldn't he? Anybody who thinks he carries that stuff to feed his ego is an idiot.

walkman
02-10-2012, 06:58 AM
I come from a school of thought that it's better to 'under-dress' the part and let your game surprise your opponent.

My wife, on the other hand, played beginner tennis with a team of ladies that encouraged each other to, "play up to your outfit!".

princetohead
02-10-2012, 12:00 PM
Seems to me that you should be able to wear and use whatever you like. If you're particular, and like to match, go ahead and match. It's your life, not somebody else's.

Precisely. It's your/their life and your/their money.

By all means, spending money is good for the industry. Those who can afford should be encouraged to spend for the economy.

Let's not be insecure about our skills and/or money. We play tennis for recreation.

r5d3
02-10-2012, 08:39 PM
Your game should speak for you, not your stuff. I try to be understated. I use a backpack bag and dress for the place of play. I save my color coordinated wear for the club. If I'm playing at the public park, I dress down.

Anybody playing any amount of tennis really needs some type of bag. My eyebrows only get raised when I see guys with those enormous bags, color coordinated outfits, beautiful new color coordinated shoes. If your going to show up looking like Federrer, you'd better have some game.

That's my .02

I couldn't disagree more with that sentiment. If you come to court dressed as Federer, I simply view it as you being a fan, I don't care what your skill level is.

I compare it to playing basketball or soccer. If a guy comes on court wearing a Dwight Howard jersey or on the pitch wearing Messi, do you know expect them to play like Howard or Messi? I don't. Same with tennis clothes.

As far as bags, I agree with the sentiment that "bigger is better" and has nothing to do with ego or showing off. Some people simply need the room a big bag provides. I just bought my boy who's still in beginner mode a six pack bag (granted, the TW one for $7 with additional order) even though he'll only have two racquets. Same for me, I plan on adding a Volkl to my arsenal next week, which will give me three sticks, but I will also grab the Volkl combi bag to make sure I can accommodate shoes, extra apparel, shower stuff, and so on.

chrisberchris
03-04-2012, 07:14 PM
I'm a low 3.5, and I love to play in Polos. Tennis supposed to be a classy sport and I like to look classy while playing it. Who cares what someone else has to say about your appearance. Do what you love

retlod
03-05-2012, 02:00 PM
4.0 player.

All Nike so the logos match.

Tennis-specific shirts (but not polos).

Bags to match racquets.

Not worth my time to care what anyone else thinks of my gear.

wmilas
03-29-2012, 11:10 AM
I started out with a backpack and one stick. Did not want to seem flashy when my game started out sucking. Got better and realized I'm fubared during a match when I break a string and have to use a demo stick that I'm not used to.

Go out and buy spare stick and 3 stick bag. Get sick of always being sopping wet after a hard match or practice. buy dri-fit clothing. Realize its not comfortable to drive home with dri-fit clothing. Need spare shoes, sock and normal shorts/shirt.

All this junk doesn't fit in in small 3 stick bag. Buy a small duffel to go in locker. Winter comes. Realize that lugging 2 tennis bags plus my soft brief case though a snowy parking lot sucks. I'm also drinking a ton of water and diluted sports drink during 2 hour sessions now.

Buy a 6 stick bag with one of the 3 stick sides insulated. Shove the mixed diluted sports drink thermoses in there (Stays cold!). Other side gets my 3 sticks (my Rdis 100's were discontinued, so i bought a third cheap on the bay). 2 Play sticks one that's usually strung with some test strings. Middle part gets my change of clothing plus towels sweat bands, spare balls, foot powder, tape, you name it.

Do I feel kinda funny with the monster bag? Not any more. I could care less what other people think as I got sick of lugging it all around in separate bags just because of what someone might think.

If you can show up with all your stuff on and just one stick, good for you. I can't and am not going to even try any more.

princetohead
04-01-2012, 01:38 PM
I started out with a backpack and one stick. Did not want to seem flashy when my game started out sucking. Got better and realized I'm fubared during a match when I break a string and have to use a demo stick that I'm not used to.

Go out and buy spare stick and 3 stick bag. Get sick of always being sopping wet after a hard match or practice. buy dri-fit clothing. Realize its not comfortable to drive home with dri-fit clothing. Need spare shoes, sock and normal shorts/shirt.

All this junk doesn't fit in in small 3 stick bag. Buy a small duffel to go in locker. Winter comes. Realize that lugging 2 tennis bags plus my soft brief case though a snowy parking lot sucks. I'm also drinking a ton of water and diluted sports drink during 2 hour sessions now.

Buy a 6 stick bag with one of the 3 stick sides insulated. Shove the mixed diluted sports drink thermoses in there (Stays cold!). Other side gets my 3 sticks (my Rdis 100's were discontinued, so i bought a third cheap on the bay). 2 Play sticks one that's usually strung with some test strings. Middle part gets my change of clothing plus towels sweat bands, spare balls, foot powder, tape, you name it.

Do I feel kinda funny with the monster bag? Not any more. I could care less what other people think as I got sick of lugging it all around in separate bags just because of what someone might think.

If you can show up with all your stuff on and just one stick, good for you. I can't and am not going to even try any more.
It makes perfect sense to me.

OriginalHockeytowner
04-01-2012, 04:25 PM
If you can show up with all your stuff on and just one stick, good for you.

That's me to a T, except I don't even have a bag. Fortunately, my birthday is in May, any guesses as to what's at the top of the list?

I save my color coordinated wear for the club. If I'm playing at the public park, I dress down.


I don't understand why anyone would "dress down" depending on where they play. If you have clothes just for playing tennis, why not wear them all the time? I won't go out in public in the same ratty gym shorts that I work on my car or paint the house or mow the lawn in, even if it's just to play tennis at the local park.

Call me a poser: my barricades match my ONE Nike shirt. Aw shoot, I knew I should've bought the adidas shirt instead! Gotta be matchy-matchy! :)

Power Player
04-01-2012, 04:30 PM
I am still using the Dunlop bag I mentioned 2 years ago in this thread, but I think I will be graduating to a larger one. I have been storing more clothes, shoes, drinks, balls etc in it, and it is getting tougher to stuff things in it.

Down here a ton of players have large bags now though..it's not a big thing.

recreationalplayer
04-04-2012, 07:16 PM
Tennis is a game played very much in your head. If it clears your mind to have a certain bag, shoes, etc., then to you it matters. I once asked a golfer if using any of all of the different golf balls available makes a difference and he said if you think it makes a difference then it makes a difference. Your question goes to that point. Build your foundation so that when you play, your mind will be clear, focused and intent on your purpose. In doing so when you walk off the court, win or lose, you wonít have to ask yourself what if. But donít expect your bag to win any points for you.

stapletonj
04-08-2012, 05:31 AM
anybody remember those HUGE bags the players had back in the late 80s early 90s? no zippered compartments, etc., just lots of room. You could put 7 sticks, 3 gallons of liquid, 3 changes of clothes, and a small child in those suckers.

I had one and it was the best. Heck, I didn't even own any other luggage! Apparantly no one makes them anymore, these durned club bags are atrocious. all the segmented compartments just make it less able to hold stuff...

oldcity
04-08-2012, 07:13 AM
I used to think people at the club with the giant 12-15 bags looked rediculous. wannabe nadal...etc so I bought a 3 pack. came to realize that no one is carrying around 12 sticks, they use the bag for all of their stuff. I see the value in that now. tired of having a gym bag full of stuff and a 3pack bag that doesn't hold anything. now i have a super-6 wilson. stoked to have all my gear in one bag.

TennisNinja
04-08-2012, 03:25 PM
I used to think people at the club with the giant 12-15 bags looked rediculous. wannabe nadal...etc so I bought a 3 pack. came to realize that no one is carrying around 12 sticks, they use the bag for all of their stuff. I see the value in that now. tired of having a gym bag full of stuff and a 3pack bag that doesn't hold anything. now i have a super-6 wilson. stoked to have all my gear in one bag.

Yep, I have a super six wilson but only have 3 rackets. 1 pocket for the rackets, 1 for balls/drinks/towels/food, and the other for an extra change of clothes/braces/shoes/hats.

Bundey
04-08-2012, 11:57 PM
I think its stupid for anyone to go out of their way to buying all these accessories or expensive clothing and shoes to look like a pro whether they are beginner or advanced (but not actually a touring pro), if the sole reason is to impress people. I notice with women at my clubs, they are more concerned with their tennis attire than their game. I don't notice as much with the adult men though. I imagine with juniors its about having the racquets and bags. All stupid IMO. But I don't think good players are any more entitled to be poseurs than beginners are.

Well if it's a good player with flashy equipment then they aren't really posers, are they? :-?

nalvarado
04-16-2012, 11:49 AM
TW sixpack with three incredibly different sticks, shoes, clothes, overgrip, and drinks. All you should ever need.

ssonosk
04-16-2012, 02:15 PM
I think that it's more a question of how much you play rather than how well you play. I think that it is lamer to be a decent tennis player who shows up to the courts once a month decked out in flashy gear, than it is to be a beginner who spends everyday at the courts trying to improve and invests in good equipment. For the most part, I'm either in work clothes or tennis clothes and I like to look and feel good in both. That being said, I don't understand why some people carry a 6-racquet and only have one racquet.

old, but i totally agree with this guy; however, I have a 10 pack with 2 racuqets lol (I use to have more). :/

texacali
04-17-2012, 02:17 PM
Didn't have tennis bags when I started in the 70's...rejoined tennis and got a three pack to put all of my old guy stuff (i.e braces, different pain killers/anti-inflammatory, etc.) Where I play league, which is a club, the men where whatever, can't tell we're even a team. The women are all matched in adidas outfits. Reminds me of going to old WTT and Virginia Slims Tournaments and the women in the audience would be all decked out in their full tennis outfits, as if when Chris Evert is done, they got next.

zapvor
04-17-2012, 04:55 PM
in my experience the more expensive the gear the worse the player. its the guy that shows up in a old shirt, 2 rackets in hand and bottle of water that hits the crap out the ball

Mick
04-17-2012, 05:46 PM
just come to the courts like this
people would have to guess which talktennis poster you are :-)

http://i43.tinypic.com/2r7qyq9.jpg

Fuji
04-17-2012, 06:23 PM
just come to the courts like this
people would have to guess which talktennis poster you are :-)

http://i43.tinypic.com/2r7qyq9.jpg

It's actually hilarious you say that, I had my ultra prostaff out at the club one night, and someone recognized it from my postings here. They said they remembered reading that it was in my province!

It's an odd experience having people recognize you from your postings!

-Fuji

Mick
04-17-2012, 06:25 PM
It's actually hilarious you say that, I had my ultra prostaff out at the club one night, and someone recognized it from my postings here. They said they remembered reading that it was in my province!

It's an odd experience having people recognize you from your postings!

-Fuji

hey, that is cool ! It's nice to meet another forum member :-)

Fuji
04-17-2012, 06:27 PM
hey, that is cool ! It's nice to meet another forum member :-)

Haha I'm not even sure if they were a user or just a lurker! All he asked was "are you Fuji @ TT?" on his way off the court! Very cool and odd at the same time.

-Fuji

zapvor
04-17-2012, 06:58 PM
thats pretty scary he can recognize it from the pic of your frame........

Fuji
04-17-2012, 07:03 PM
thats pretty scary he can recognize it from the pic of your frame........

Hahaha have you ever seen the picture of megastaff? It has enough visible lead applied on with its signature florescent pink OG, it's pretty recognizable!

-Fuji

zapvor
04-17-2012, 07:18 PM
lol oh ok.....lets see a pic

Fuji
04-17-2012, 07:21 PM
http://i1101.photobucket.com/albums/g423/Fuji_Syuuske/IMG_0749.jpg

It's covered by tape in this picture, but you can see the bulges. I must not have the full picture from mid-modding anymore which is unfortunate.

-Fuji

zapvor
04-17-2012, 07:33 PM
intersting. i wouldnt recognize you from that pic. cool

Fuji
04-17-2012, 08:42 PM
intersting. i wouldnt recognize you from that pic. cool

Yeah! It was such an interesting experience!

-Fuji

NJ1
04-18-2012, 08:37 AM
in my experience the more expensive the gear the worse the player. its the guy that shows up in a old shirt, 2 rackets in hand and bottle of water that hits the crap out the ball

Good lord, if I had a penny for every time I've read someone at TT spout this tired old line...

Fact is, if people like all the gear they should wear it and vice versa. Too much jealousy in the world today. I don't match brands or wear full outfits but I do like Nike shoes and moisture wicking everything. I'm able to beat some guys wearing Levi cutoffs and able lose to some. I'm able to beat some guys decked out as Nadal and able to lose to some....

zapvor
04-18-2012, 09:05 AM
Yeah! It was such an interesting experience!

-Fuji

i would think so too!

zapvor
04-18-2012, 09:06 AM
Good lord, if I had a penny for every time I've read someone at TT spout this tired old line...

Fact is, if people like all the gear they should wear it and vice versa. Too much jealousy in the world today. I don't match brands or wear full outfits but I do like Nike shoes and moisture wicking everything. I'm able to beat some guys wearing Levi cutoffs and able lose to some. I'm able to beat some guys decked out as Nadal and able to lose to some....

i didnt say people cant wear what they want. they can buy whatever gear they like. its just funny to me how 99% of the time the guy with 6 rackets and brand new bag and nice outfit loses to the guy who looks like he doesnt even play tennis.

marlinspike
04-19-2012, 03:38 AM
It's always been my opinion that people should earn the right to play in polo shirts. I really don't know why, but whenever I see a low 3.5 or 3.0 player in fancy clothes, especially polos, it just makes me want to laugh. To give some perspective, though, one of the best players I know doesn't even wear dry fit stuff most of the time. The only expensive thing he ever has on is a lacoste hat.

I come from a different school of thought: people shouldn't wear t-shirts to play tennis. There are very few occasions when one should wear a t-shirt as outer wear. Except for my undershirts, I never owned anything that resembled t-shirt except when I ran on the cross-country team.

goober
04-19-2012, 07:10 AM
in my experience the more expensive the gear the worse the player. its the guy that shows up in a old shirt, 2 rackets in hand and bottle of water that hits the crap out the ball

I have seen plenty of 2.5-3.0 players that dress poorly- pretty much at any public park. A lot of these players don't even own tennis clothes

At tournaments and league type matches I would say the vast majority of 5.0+ players I have seen wear tennis attire- either polos or crews. Maybe when they are practicing they don't as much but neither do the 3.5-4.0.

The only group I have seen consistently wearing expensive clothing is the country club set, but then they dress nicely all the time. If you can afford thousands of dollars to belong to a club buying a polo is not really a big expenditure for them.

zapvor
04-19-2012, 09:58 PM
I have seen plenty of 2.5-3.0 players that dress poorly- pretty much at any public park. A lot of these players don't even own tennis clothes

At tournaments and league type matches I would say the vast majority of 5.0+ players I have seen wear tennis attire- either polos or crews. Maybe when they are practicing they don't as much but neither do the 3.5-4.0.

The only group I have seen consistently wearing expensive clothing is the country club set, but then they dress nicely all the time. If you can afford thousands of dollars to belong to a club buying a polo is not really a big expenditure for them.

of course. again my post is talking about how funny its to see a guy in a $80 new nike shirt being crushed by a guy wearing a old tee.