Don't ice that sprained ankle!

[Ronaldo]

Anyone familiar with this technique at Jumpstretch.com? http://www.jumpstretch.com/vidlinks/dan_bobish.htm

[ThePro101]

I sprained (tore ligaments and injured a tendon) my ankle last week{playing golf:-o }. It's been 6 days, I'm still in a lot of pain and can barely walk. I am very skeptical about this program; as a tear is a tear...

but please, post your personal experiences...

[kevhen]

Plenty of steroids and Tylenol and all the pain goes away.

I am not big on icing myself but half hour to a new ankle is a bit unbelievable.

[dunloplayah]

I think a video/treatment like this out of context of a doctor, xrays etc. is irresponsible. if it's torn, theres a different treatment for that, if it's just sprained different for that, etc. you have to know what you have wrong first before you can "blanket statement" treat it. Under certain circumstances, yes immediate icing could be bad.

I had the forward part of my shin/top of my foot hurting after a bad semi-roll on the court last week. After playing, i did my usual stretches but doubled up on my ankle, calf, hamstring stretches. I massaged the front of my calf right after as well. when i got home, i took advil, put ice on for 15 min on with elevation, 30 min off, 15 on only once.then let it rest for about 3 hours elevated with a compression brace. I hit my hot tub that night and hand massaged the area. the next morning i woke up with no pain, no problem since adn played a tournament this last weekend.

This sprain was as bad as the one that put me out for 4 weeks in february. The only thing i did different was I didn't stretch right after play on the court and waited up to 3 hours to treat at home.

The only benefit i can see from this guys treatment was the traction giving it a relief of pressure and stretching. I still think that guy either didn't have it bad or will wake up tomorrow with it hurting and weak.

[netman]

Swelling around an injury is the major cause of collateral tissue damage. Icing in the first 24 hours can dramatically reduce swelling, thereby dramatically reducing collateral damage. There is an extensive body of research supporting this approach.

Take your pick. One person/group pitching an approach with no validated data other than their own. Or hundred's of studies supporting R.I.C.E.

-k-

[chess9]

Swelling around an injury is the major cause of collateral tissue damage. Icing in the first 24 hours can dramatically reduce swelling, thereby dramatically reducing collateral damage. There is an extensive body of research supporting this approach.

Take your pick. One person/group pitching an approach with no validated data other than their own. Or hundred's of studies supporting R.I.C.E.

-k-


That's going to continue to be my approach, however, there is a small article in Muscular Development magazine about a study (from Japan, I believe) that says heat is better. I find it hard to believe, as I've had very good results with icing.

-Robert

[WildVolley]

It's very interesting. Though it is probably not applicable in all injuries. Being able to walk off a small ankle sprain is common.

Will the same sort of traction method apply if I tweak my shoulder serving? That's what I'm wondering.

[richw76]

That's going to continue to be my approach, however, there is a small article in Muscular Development magazine about a study (from Japan, I believe) that says heat is better. I find it hard to believe, as I've had very good results with icing.

-Robert

I've heard horror stories with heat and lower back pain. Heat can increase swelling. A friend of mine heard alternating heating pad and cold compress could help with lowerback pain, and spasms. It took him down for the count. Extreme pain, pain killers, and sleeping on the floor with feet elevated for 3-4 days came next.

I'm convinced heat soothes muscle pain temporarily, but I don't think it helps much longer term

[Tim Tennis]

I am a big believer in "ice." It sure helps me with sore knees and mild sprains. Have no idea about a more serious injury, I guess you do need to be careful. As a senior tennis player always be sure to have enough let over for you drinks

Ed

[netman]

I've heard horror stories with heat and lower back pain. Heat can increase swelling. A friend of mine heard alternating heating pad and cold compress could help with lowerback pain, and spasms. It took him down for the count. Extreme pain, pain killers, and sleeping on the floor with feet elevated for 3-4 days came next.

I'm convinced heat soothes muscle pain temporarily, but I don't think it helps much longer term

The actual protocol is to ice for the first 24 hours. If swelling is controlled, then begin gradual application of heat to help healing. Too much ice can cause tissue damage, just as can too much heat. Ice should never be left on for more than 15 minutes and not re-applied until the tissue has returned to body temp.

-k-

[Rickson]

Anyone familiar with this technique at Jumpstretch.com? http://www.jumpstretch.com/vidlinks/dan_bobish.htm

The guy's a moron and I don't agree with his destructive technique. Ice is great for speeding up the heeling process which is the opposite of what the moron claims.