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Dink
08-14-2007, 09:28 AM
I'm creating this thread with a clear title so that it can be bumped later one way or another.

I was very high on Sampras, but Djokovic's play this year has convinced me that he will become one of the all-time greats.

Sure Sampras won fourteen slams, but Djokovic is from Serbia; Serbia . . . man.

So, who is better, Novak Djokovic now or Pete Sampras in his prime?

quest01
08-14-2007, 09:36 AM
Sampras is a lot better then Djokovic in his prime.

Jonny S&V
08-14-2007, 09:40 AM
I'm creating this thread with a clear title so that it can be bumped later one way or another.

I was very high on Samras, but Djokovic's play this year has convinced me that he will be one of the all-time greats.

Sure Sampras won fourteen slams, but Djokovic is from Serbia; Serbia . . . man.

So, who is better?

Umm, gee! That is a tough one, but I'd have to go with Sampras on this one (this remark is glistening with sarcasm). Sampras already won a GS title by Djokovic's age, and their games don't match up at all (Sampras with the dominating serve and volley mostly, and Djokovic with his mostly baseline all court).

DarkTennis
08-14-2007, 09:40 AM
man the guy only won once against federer....this and all the djokovic thing is sortof getting out of hand

Dimonator133
08-14-2007, 09:41 AM
most ridiculous poll i've ever seen, by far

Voltron
08-14-2007, 09:51 AM
This is just stupid, so now we have more than one Joker troll, interesting.

ksbh
08-14-2007, 09:52 AM
LOL!

Well, logically it's possible for every top player to become the greatest. The possibility exists. So Novak can. But will he? I don't think so and he's certainly nowhere at this stage to be considered greater than Pete Sampras.

Without question, he does have the game (among the current crop of baseline bashers) to win several slams and go on to become an all time great.

I'm creating this thread with a clear title so that it can be bumped later one way or another.

I was very high on Sampras, but Djokovic's play this year has convinced me that he will become one of the all-time greats.

Sure Sampras won fourteen slams, but Djokovic is from Serbia; Serbia . . . man.

So, who is better?

Dink
08-14-2007, 09:57 AM
This is just stupid, so now we have more than one Joker troll, interesting.

I hope people don't get too ****ed off. This is all in jest.

Mods, feel free to lock this thread and/or ban me if things get out of hand.

dennis10is
08-14-2007, 09:57 AM
I'm creating this thread with a clear title so that it can be bumped later one way or another.

I was very high on Sampras, but Djokovic's play this year has convinced me that he will become one of the all-time greats.

Sure Sampras won fourteen slams, but Djokovic is from Serbia; Serbia . . . man.

So, who is better?

He won three masters shield this year and beat Nadal and Federer. Clearly, he's the best ever. Why do we have to have a poll. It is so obvious.

If you could get all five of the other guys in their prime on one side of the net, Djokovic with still beat them. They could even serve five balls all at once, he he would still break them!

He's amazing!!

How about if I throw in JMac, Connors, Lendl, Edberg, Becker, Don Budge, Krammer? These twelve guys all in their prime on one side, hitting twelve balls simultaneously against Djokovic and he'll still win.

He's the best! If only he plays golf he could beat Tiger. If he plays baseball, he could hit 800 home runs.

Jonny S&V
08-14-2007, 09:59 AM
He won three masters shield this year and beat Nadal and Federer. Clearly, he's the best ever. Why do we have to have a poll. It is so obvious.

If you could get all five of the other guys in their prime on one side of the net, Djokovic with still beat them. They could even serve five balls all at once, he he would still break them!

He's amazing!!

How about if I throw in JMac, Connors, Lendl, Edberg, Becker, Don Budge, Krammer? These twelve guys all in their prime on one side, hitting twelve balls simultaneously against Djokovic and he'll still win.

He's the best! If only he plays golf he could beat Tiger. If he plays baseball, he could hit 800 home runs.

2 actually, but loved the sarcasm. ;)

Eviscerator
08-14-2007, 09:59 AM
:roll:

Thread rating

0.1 out of 10

natasha_nana
08-14-2007, 10:04 AM
Sure Sampras won fourteen slams, but Djokovic is from Serbia; Serbia . . . man.

So, who is better?

HAHAHAHA...for a second I thought this could be a serious thread.
And then I saw this.

Gotta give the OP props for humour.
Must say I've never heard that argument before...but yeah, I wouldn't put it past some of the newly emerging Nole trolls to use it. lmao.
"I've never won a single slam...but hey I was bombed on repeatedly during the 90s.."

Kid Carlos
08-14-2007, 10:05 AM
djokovic is not even close to sampras as a player, he will be very good, im saying max 6-8 slam, but fed will be right there for wimby for the next 5 years, nadal will be there at the french for the 6-8 years, so either australia of us open are his best bets, i would be more so towards the us open bc depending how hard he works for australia that one will up in the air.

tennispro11
08-14-2007, 10:05 AM
I hope people don't get too ****ed off. This is all in jest.

Mods, feel free to lock this thread/ban me if things get out of hand.

Can anyone say "Troll?"

ATPattic
08-14-2007, 10:25 AM
don't jump to silly conclusions

SiLvErX
08-14-2007, 11:57 AM
Sure Sampras won fourteen slams, but Djokovic is from Serbia; Serbia . . . man.

So, who is better?

What are you actually wanted to say with this...

AS it sounds to me you are mocking my country

Isn't that what an idiot would do ?

federerfanatic
08-14-2007, 12:00 PM
OK this is getting crazy. All the guy has done is win 2 Masters title, that is it. 2 Masters title. He hasnt even reached a Slam final yet. This is so typical of many of this forum, someone wins an event of any importance, and suddenly they are the new god or goddess of the game, maybe of all time.

Tensai Basketman
08-14-2007, 12:02 PM
Best. Thread. Ever.





Oh, and I voted "yes" after much deliberation.

_mats_
08-14-2007, 12:03 PM
djokovic beat federer !! he is the BEST tennis player EVER..

we dont need to see results 4, 5 , 6 years from now.. he just beat him.. therefore he is the greatest of them all..

One match result has undoubtely sealed his fate.. no turning back Djokovic

psamp14
08-14-2007, 12:06 PM
I'm creating this thread with a clear title so that it can be bumped later one way or another.

I was very high on Sampras, but Djokovic's play this year has convinced me that he will become one of the all-time greats.

Sure Sampras won fourteen slams, but Djokovic is from Serbia; Serbia . . . man.

So, who is better?

you should be banned, and banned for life on how biased and ridiculous this thread is....

ShooterMcMarco
08-14-2007, 12:07 PM
:roll:

Thread rating

0.1 out of 10

TW should implement a negative rating system for threads like these

MaxT
08-14-2007, 12:14 PM
This is the most stupid question ever.

The other day I served three aces in the park, am I the GOAT? I wonder.

Tarqs
08-14-2007, 02:19 PM
:roll:

Thread rating

0.1 out of 10

i think your giving him to much haha.

nickb
08-14-2007, 04:42 PM
Most dumb, pointless and stupid thread ive ever seen on TTW.

Time to get a new user name :oops:

daddy
08-14-2007, 05:40 PM
Think so ? Well maybe .. ;) Nevermind, he is not that far behind sampras at 20, he just had to take it slower due to physical weakness. Pete was very athletic from early days ..

Rhino
08-14-2007, 05:44 PM
Is this serious? I see youir point, he has managed to beat the best player of all time - Federer (something Sampras never managed even on his favourite surface), and also taking out the worlds no2 and no3 at the same event. I think he maybe needs to prove himself on the bigger stage but yeah i think he would give Sampras a real headache if they met both in their primes.

daddy
08-14-2007, 05:51 PM
I am not sure how you got my post but lets say its premature for this. I am from belgrade and I still think he might be nr 1 in future and everythign but goat , dont know , you never know that. Most likely not but lets say everyone has different favourite player so goat is not something that can be determined just like that ? Is it 14 slams winner or the one who took grand slam in one year or the one who got 5 of wimbledones and french opens or one who dominates the sport for 3.5 years or .. you got my point, matter of opinion.

OrangeOne
08-14-2007, 05:53 PM
THIS THREAD SUCKS BECAUSE: (Place X where applies)
[X] This topic did not need a separate thread
[_] Fake/duplicate account
[_] It asks when and/or will Nadal become #1 in the world
[_] It is a Nadal v Federer thread where making sense is prohibited
[_] It assumes Federer will forever be on top of the tennis world
[X] It is a lame troll attempt
[_] It is a “Threaten to leave” thread
[X] It over hypes players that don’t deserve it
[_] Original Poster's grammar makes me suspect the post was written by 4 year old
[_] It claims Player X career is over after 1 bad loss
[X] It tries to determine the best player ever (on any surface) for the 200th time
[_] It compares Graf and Seles, in any way.
[_] It asks when or if a young player will ever reach their potential after a totally expected loss
[_] It is a serious discussion of a exhibition match
[_] It proclaims a 16-18 year old's career is finished after a couple of first round losses
[_] It has the word Gilbert in the subject line
[_] It discusses doubles when its not a Davis Cup weekend
[_] It is a serious discussion of a clay clown's chances at a clay event or in an individual match against a competent clay player
[_] It is the annual thread where people complain about clay courters not showing up and embarrassing themselves on grass
[_] It is the annual thread where people complain about Americans not showing up in Monte Carlo
[_] It speculates whether player X is on dope without any evidence
[_] It asks/assumes Safin is finished in tennis after a totally expected few first round loss to the local baker in the first round of small tournament X
[_] Use the damn search engine
[_] It accuses the loser of choking when he did nothing of the sort
[_] It talks about fake injuries and/or fake injury time outs
[_] Cramp are called an injury
[_] BROKEN CAPS LOCK
[_] It claims females can be competitive with males in any form of tennis
[_] Wrong forum, eejit.
[X] It was created by a 13 year old desperate for attention
[_] It contains advice to a top ten pro player from a 3.0 with a losing record
[_] It predicts the winner of a tournament final based on a 'feeling'
[_] It's a 'Hey I'm back' thread after a) you were banned for a damn good reason or b) no one noticed you were gone or missed you.
[X] It's a duplicate thread started by someone who can't scroll one inch down the first page.

tricky
08-14-2007, 05:54 PM
Word is, the exhibition match at the end of this year will now be between Sampras and the Joker. Joker's GOAT eligibility was validated after scoring extremely high in SoBad's scientific study (due to his latest coup at the fashion show. showing chest hair through a polyester suit? stylish.) Federer's GOAT ranking has now dropped to #11 due to a bad looking backhand and his own perfume.

krz
08-14-2007, 05:58 PM
werd on the street is this was a joke... werd on the street is if your posting a serious response to this thread then you missed the werd on the street.

Dink
08-14-2007, 07:30 PM
I'm just curious, OrangOne, what do you consider funny?

iamke55
08-14-2007, 07:36 PM
Forget Sampras, the real GOATs are Nadal, Volandri, Canas, Gasquet, Nalbandian, Safin, and Murray. Oh yeah and Federer too, he's beaten the world #1 more times than all of the others combined.

Dink
08-14-2007, 07:36 PM
What are you actually wanted to say with this...

AS it sounds to me you are mocking my country

Isn't that what an idiot would do ?

I didn't mean to offend any Serbs out there.

daddy
08-14-2007, 07:39 PM
I didn't mean to offend any Serbs out there.

Its not easy to offend us mate, we are smiling nation ! ;)

OrangeOne
08-14-2007, 08:40 PM
I'm just curious, OrangOne, what do you consider funny?

Clearly anyone with a sense of humour would realise I find Fee's "This Thread Sucks Form" funny.....

redsoxrock930
08-14-2007, 09:35 PM
I love novak djokovic, but sampras is the best of all time, plus who doesn't like Sampras? Also, like it or not djokovic is playing in an era where there is no dominant serve and volley player like sampras. I don't think that Djokovic could handle that style of play, however i think that he has the ability to win the U.S. Open.

Mad iX
08-14-2007, 10:07 PM
Sampras never beat Federer, so Djokovic must be better!
14 slams to none so what? Logic doesn't matter when you're on the bandwagon.

jmsx521
08-14-2007, 10:32 PM
I think Djokovic already has a better backhand than Sampras ever did.

Wuornos
08-14-2007, 11:49 PM
Novak Đoković is certainly a good player but he has a way to go yet to prove he is superior to Sampras.

I like to see plenty of evidence in top flight events in order to evaluate and rate a player. While Đoković's form has been good he needs prolong this period and prove it is not a fleeting run of good form before I would be even willing to consider him a top 3 player.

I think many of the threads on this site relating to Đoković are somewhat premature in hailing his greatness.

Would you be willing to put your house on his winning in Cincinnati?

Batoussai
08-15-2007, 12:03 AM
Can somebody close this one?

This is just ridiculous!

War, Safin!
08-15-2007, 03:07 AM
I'm creating this thread with a clear title so that it can be bumped later one way or another.

I was very high on Sampras, but Djokovic's play this year has convinced me that he will become one of the all-time greats.

Sure Sampras won fourteen slams, but Djokovic is from Serbia; Serbia . . . man.

So, who is better, Novak Djokovic now or Pete Sampras in his prime?

:-D
Sampras is better in every aspect of tennis.

Djokovich is only good on one surface ( and by that I mean, grass, clay and hardcourt ;) )

THUNDERVOLLEY
08-15-2007, 03:53 AM
most ridiculous poll i've ever seen, by far

Agreed. Djokovic's skills are not great or even suggest legendary status for the future. In the U.S. Open where Sampras won his first GS title, it was clear his skills were on another level.

When Djokovic beats Federer in the next 7 or 8 slam finals, then the topic starter should come knocking. Until then, this poll is pure, steaming, fly-covered BS.

origmarm
08-15-2007, 04:15 AM
Clearly you are djoking

consigliere
08-15-2007, 10:12 AM
What is this, a ****ing joke. The guy wins a match against federer and all this forum knows about is " is djokovic better the sampras in his prime " " is djokovic the best ". Gimme a break guys, will ya.

daddy
08-15-2007, 10:20 AM
Agreed. Djokovic's skills are not great or even suggest legendary status for the future. In the U.S. Open where Sampras won his first GS title, it was clear his skills were on another level.

When Djokovic beats Federer in the next 7 or 8 slam finals, then the topic starter should come knocking. Until then, this poll is pure, steaming, fly-covered BS.

Post is about djoko 20yr old and Pete 20yrs old.

SiLvErX
08-15-2007, 10:22 AM
I cant believe people are posting in this thread.. this tread is clearly a bad joke

I'm Probably Djokovics Biggest fun in here... but You just cant compare young player who just started with G.O.A.T name like SAMPRAS is

So just stop posting here...Creator of this thread actually wanted to C stupid discussions like this one so he can laugh at home

daddy
08-15-2007, 10:45 AM
I cant believe people are posting in this thread.. this tread is clearly a bad joke

I'm Probably Djokovics Biggest fun in here... but You just cant compare young player who just started with G.O.A.T name like SAMPRAS is

So just stop posting here...Creator of this thread actually wanted to C stupid discussions like this one so he can laugh at home

Oladi, napisao sam gore da je pitanje ko je bolji sa 20 godina a ne da li je nole bolji sada nego sampras u vrhuncu karijere, pa to nije za post nego za zatvor.

MaximRecoil
08-15-2007, 11:41 AM
This thread is hilarious, particularly the poll options.

Are there a lot of people on this forum that are not native English speakers? It is not only this thread, but I've seen quite a few threads here where an obvious joke/parody/satire/etc. is completely missed and responded to as though it were dead serious by quite a few people.

PrestigeClassic
08-15-2007, 12:01 PM
It's fairly hard to tell because players came from different eras, but I'd give the nod to Djokovic. After all, I've never seen Gus Sampras play.

anointedone
08-15-2007, 01:28 PM
Lets see:

First serve-Sampras
Second serve-Sampras
Forehand-probably Sampras
Backhand-Djokovic
Return of Serve-Djokovic
Movement-Sampras
Volleys-Sampras
Overhead-Sampras
Mental Game-Sampras (although Djokovic is excellent for a young player here)
Intangibles-Sampras

Overall score - Sampras 8, Djokovic 2
Slam titles - Sampras 14, Djokovic 0
Slam titles at same age even - Sampras 1, Djokovic 0
Overall outcome - NC

Kim
08-15-2007, 01:29 PM
Idiotic...again.

daddy
08-15-2007, 02:15 PM
I love novak djokovic, but sampras is the best of all time, plus who doesn't like Sampras? Also, like it or not djokovic is playing in an era where there is no dominant serve and volley player like sampras. I don't think that Djokovic could handle that style of play, however i think that he has the ability to win the U.S. Open.

I think serve and voley died with agassi friend, he just beat those guys with returns and passes and they all quit. Correct me if I am wrong but there are no s&v because players are much more precise these days with racquets and stuff and its easier to hit a passing shot.

daddy
08-15-2007, 02:16 PM
Idiotic...again.

Hey - I wrote on my native up there, question I ask is sampras at 20 vs novak at 20 ? In that case its closer ? Sam had his first slam at the time but nevertheless Id like to hear some people who know tennis and followed sampras from youung age comment on this .

drgnpride
08-15-2007, 02:16 PM
right now i'd put joker up there with jimmy arias in his prime. call back when he's won a major or 10.

federer envies me
08-15-2007, 02:18 PM
What is this, a ****ing joke. The guy wins a match against federer and all this forum knows about is " is djokovic better the sampras in his prime " " is djokovic the best ". Gimme a break guys, will ya.

seriously, wait till this guy wins a slam or becomes 1

Dink
08-15-2007, 06:59 PM
This thread is hilarious, particularly the poll options.

Are there a lot of people on this forum that are not native English speakers? It is not only this thread, but I've seen quite a few threads here where an obvious joke/parody/satire/etc. is completely missed and responded to as though it were dead serious by quite a few people.

Thanks. The purpose of this thread was just to make fun of all the love the Djoker has been getting these last few days.

daddy
08-15-2007, 07:21 PM
This thread is hilarious, particularly the poll options.

Are there a lot of people on this forum that are not native English speakers? It is not only this thread, but I've seen quite a few threads here where an obvious joke/parody/satire/etc. is completely missed and responded to as though it were dead serious by quite a few people.

:)

Yes there are alot of us who are not native english speakers, butwhats more hilarious is when you make such an obvious joke ( your opinion ) and yet - it may become reality in 5 - 6 years. I remember watching a tw show about cars where celebrities showcased their rides and one guy said - "oh my - I like when I use for example Peter Crouch who obviously will never be a good player in my songs and stupid germans ask - Who is peter crouch - with a german accent !!" ,

Now this was 2003. Crouch was englands first choice striker in 2006. ;) So much about this ...

Dink
08-15-2007, 07:32 PM
:)

Yes there are alot of us who are not native english speakers, butwhats more hilarious is when you make such an obvious joke ( your opinion ) and yet - it may become reality in 5 - 6 years. I remember watching a tw show about cars where celebrities showcased their rides and one guy said - "oh my - I like when I use for example Peter Crouch who obviously will never be a good player in my songs and stupid germans ask - Who is peter crouch - with a german accent !!" ,

Now this was 2003. Crouch was englands first choice striker in 2006. ;) So much about this ...

If that happens, feel free to bump this thread.

:p I'll say that I saw it coming all along, of course.

tennispro11
08-15-2007, 07:37 PM
If that happens, feel free to bump this thread.

:p I'll say that I saw it coming all along, of course.

It's alright Dink, I still love you. :)

Dink
08-15-2007, 08:10 PM
It's fairly hard to tell because players came from different eras, but I'd give the nod to Djokovic. After all, I've never seen Gus Sampras play.

:) Funny post.

Dink
08-15-2007, 08:12 PM
It's alright Dink, I still love you. :)

I...love you too.

Dink
08-15-2007, 09:02 PM
Novak Đoković is certainly a good player but he has a way to go yet to prove he is superior to Sampras.

I like to see plenty of evidence in top flight events in order to evaluate and rate a player. While Đoković's form has been good he needs prolong this period and prove it is not a fleeting run of good form before I would be even willing to consider him a top 3 player.

I think many of the threads on this site relating to Đoković are somewhat premature in hailing his greatness.

Would you be willing to put your house on his winning in Cincinnati?

Does anyone have a place I can sleep tonight?

TheNatural
08-16-2007, 07:37 AM
ask Moya, he'll tell you the answer:D

Tchocky
08-16-2007, 07:42 AM
These choices are all the same with varying degrees of "Yes". Sampras' serve is better but Novak's ground game is better.

ninman
08-16-2007, 07:57 AM
It's impossible to compare somebody who has only just arrived as a proffessional tennis player with somebody who had a career that lasted about 15 years. Why not wait until Djokovic retires before asking that question?

daddy
08-16-2007, 08:01 AM
It's impossible to compare somebody who has only just arrived as a proffessional tennis player with somebody who had a career that lasted about 15 years. Why not wait until Djokovic retires before asking that question?

You missed it, it can not be non usa player or godlike figure I guess. So fed is the latter and other contenders are Isner, The other dude with 3 maatches and the thrid dude with a fast serve. Just behind are rod and blake and prolly bryan bros if they decide to play separately, maybe even kendrick or aggasi if he gets back from retirement. This is logical now, is it ?

Gorecki
08-16-2007, 11:08 AM
apart from the joke wich was funny, that remark on Serbia was unecessary and somewhat biased...

And i am a non native english speaker with pride. eurocentric to the bone and very very Portuguese that got the joke...

one day i will make the same joke on "Michelle Brito"... :):)

anointedone
08-16-2007, 11:09 AM
I cant believe an obvious trolling thread like this has gotten so many responses.