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soggyramen
08-18-2007, 12:45 PM
So I've had the Pure Storm Tour for a little while now and I have to say I completely love this racquet if any of you have read my posts on other storm topics you'll know that I think this is the best racquet Babolat has every made.

So I hit the courts with my racquets for a three day five hour a day hit session and then a best of five set match.

The racquet I used was strung with Luxilon Big Banger Alu Power at 56 lbs.

Volleys: This racquet was a joy to volley with, it has a ton more touch and feel than any of the babolat racquets on the market. I have not tried the Aero Storm so don't quote me on that just yet. It feels as if you can take any low percentage volley and make it work for you. Drop volleys were solid, forehand and backhand volleys were crisp and and easy to put away with out worrying of going for too much. Backhand volleys felt better which is odd because usually my forehand volleys are better. Swinging volleys felt great as it was easy to hit hard and out without it going out.

Volleys: 8.5/10

Spin: Again the storm scores big points with me. Maybe it was because the beam was thinner that my slice was so easy to perform (kept knocking it on the beam of the PD W/ Cortex) either way the amount of spin that this racquet helps create is massive. You should expect some good topspin shots as well as massive slice, on serve and on the defense. Drop shots were easily executed as the stringbed gives you a nice feel when you nail that perfect drop. You'll pretty much know when it's going to go over almost every time when you get that nice crisp feeling from the stringbed.

Spin: 9/10

Returns: Here's where the racquet is dead on. The weight and the balance of the racquet make it wonderful to return serves. It's very manuverable and stable so you can easily zone in on your return weither it's just a first serve block or a second serve attack, this racquet can take it.

Returns: 9.5/10 (would give it a 10 but nothing's perfect)

Groundstrokes: Good stuff here as well though the backhand felt so much more crisp and powerful than the forehand which is odd since my backhand is usually so much more powerful. You could always tell from the string feedback if you got a good deep shot coming or a short one. Approaches needed a little more kick than usually from me as well as a little more topspin but after a small adjustment I was rolling with them once again. It was easy to rocket shots cross court and down the line. Shooting for the lines and going for low percentage shots was no problem here as well as the racquet is very forgiving which was a big surprise to me. Very solid in this department and very forgiving which I think even 4.0 players can use this racquet not just the 4.5+ like TW recommends.

Groundstrokes: 8.5/10

Comfort: The storm was darn comfortable on shots without sacrificing touch and feel which was a big plus. I don't see a reason to bring out a cortex version for this racquet as I think it would ruin the volley department for me. Still though very comfortable on groundstrokes, serves, and volleys. Even though all these good things have been said it was uncomfortable on hard first serve returns or even sometimes the second serve return as well as some slight miss hits which knocked it down a point. Still not bad though.

Comfort: 7.5/10

Stability: We all are sceptical about technologies and different types of materials used in racquets like *cough*Karophite Black*cough* but I am here to say that the "Carbon Extreme" around the head I think is the real deal as volleys were extremely stable at all times as well as ground strokes. Thus I was no doubt amazed that I never had a point in the session where the racquet rotated in my hands because of a hard shot or even a mis hit.

Stability: 9.5/10

Manuverablity: Again great stuff here as the racquet is said to have a 333 swingweight but it swung so much lighter like maybe 315-320. Manuverability on volleys was wonderful, I felt I could get almost every shot that went by me. This racquet is a good choice if you like to serve and volley because of this as well. I was able to switch from aggressive baseliner to S&V throughout the match with almost no difficulty of transition. S&V fans put this on your demo list.

Manuverablity: 9/10

Control: Control was darn good as it was easy to pinpoint shots with no problems. All you needed was to keep your swing and position good and you were set. Line shots weren't that difficult to execute but would go off at times. To get the full benefit of the control you really need to swing full and out to keep the control there. Short swings and bad position will get you no where with this racquet. Probably the best controlled oriented racquet in Babolat's aresenal with the Pure Control Team behind it.

Control: 9/10

Serves and Overheads: Slice and Kick serves can get some massive spin with this racquet the ball would really kick up on the kick serves with good height and slice serves looking great going down the T or out wide. Despite the specs this racquet has quite a lot of power on serves for me it was easy to bomb an ace or two with my kick serve and maybe one ace with the slice I got during our match. Honestly this is a biased catagory because can not tell the difference in overheads I feel if you have good technique all your overheads are going to be good and vice versa. Overheads were solid nothing more, nothing less, and nothing special.

Serves and Overheads: 8/10

Power: The Tour has a good amount of power to get shots deep but short swings again won't cut it here unless you like bring your opponent to the net. This racquet has less power than the old storm and it feels much more rewarding to hit winners knowing that most of the time you can get them in with just solid technique. Babolat has been getting a bad rap for making most of their racquets into shotguns but this one is more of a pistol requiring again good technique to really hit the strong winner or that hard line forehand.

Power: 6.5/10 (To me that's a good thing)

Flex: Everyone complained about the pure control being a good racquet but being too stiff well there are no problems here as the flex contributes to the comfort and feels wonderful on every shot. This racquet tends to flex in my opinion more at the throat than the head which is not a bad thing but I am pretty sure no one will complain about tennis elbow from this racquet, but then again nothing's impossible.

Flex: 9/10

Overall: Great all court racquet that's ready for any match situation. Those who didn't like Babolat in the past should check this one out as it breaks Babolat's traditional mold in a good way by reinventing the Pure Control series. If the trend continues with this line then i'll be using it for as long as Babolat keeps producing and keeps updating them.

Overall: 9/10

Bronc10is
08-18-2007, 01:00 PM
How is this racket compared to the Pure Control or the Pure Storm Team? The Pure Control in terms of manuverability and stiffness. and for the Pure Storm Team, the Tour version is .5 ounces heavier, but can you really feel a big difference??

Rafa freak
08-18-2007, 01:03 PM
How is this racket compared to the Pure Control or the Pure Storm Team? The Pure Control in terms of manuverability and stiffness. and for the Pure Storm Team, the Tour version is .5 ounces heavier, but can you really feel a big difference??

I can I love the new one it is great.

soggyramen
08-18-2007, 01:05 PM
How is this racket compared to the Pure Control or the Pure Storm Team? The Pure Control in terms of manuverability and stiffness. and for the Pure Storm Team, the Tour version is .5 ounces heavier, but can you really feel a big difference??

you really feel the difference in the flex compared to the PCT and you need a faster swing than the old storm series to produce a lot of pace and power. the tour feels heavier but because it's 7 pts headlight it's extremely manuverable. also the extra half an ounce also helps a bunch in the stability department. so imo yea the weight matters. the team is too light for me

Bronc10is
08-18-2007, 01:31 PM
I used to use the Pure Control Team before switching to the Pure Storm Team. The Pure control team was too stiff and it was hard to hit slice backhands on the run (defensive). and the Pure Storm Team is alright but I definitely agree it needs some stability to the frame, I wonder if the new Storm adds the stability or the new Storm Tour corrects the problems I had with the Pure Control

soggyramen
08-18-2007, 02:27 PM
I used to use the Pure Control Team before switching to the Pure Storm Team. The Pure control team was too stiff and it was hard to hit slice backhands on the run (defensive). and the Pure Storm Team is alright but I definitely agree it needs some stability to the frame, I wonder if the new Storm adds the stability or the new Storm Tour corrects the problems I had with the Pure Control

the new storm is still unstable but more stable than the old storm. the tour no doubt corrects the problem as i wanted to use the pure control but the stiffness along with the weight killed my arm but now that the stiffness is gone in the storm tour it gives my arm a break so i can handle the weight effectivly. before the stiffness would slowly break down my arm and it got to the point where i couldn't swing as fast or as strong with it by mid point into a match

Bronc10is
08-18-2007, 02:35 PM
so the Tour is basically a perfect balance of the storm (stiffness, manueverability) and the control (stable, power, control)??

soggyramen
08-18-2007, 02:42 PM
so the Tour is basically a perfect balance of the storm (stiffness, manueverability) and the control (stable, power, control)??

yes in my opinion it's the perfect balance between both racquets. that's why i believe it's babolat's best racquet.

Ten_nuts
08-18-2007, 03:02 PM
Thanks for the review, Soggyramen. I bought 2 Pure Storm Tour Plus and after playing with them for 2 hours, i feel like i just improve alot scpecifically the serve and overhead. I totally with you that the PST has very low power. Mine, i got both strung with Lux Timo 17g, 1 at 56 lbs and 1 at 58 lbs. The one strung at 58 lbs makes the racquet very hard to hit, and i am amazed that eventhough it's strung with Luxilon, it has very low power. The one strung at 56 lbs is a whole lot better. Next time i'll have them strung with this string again at 54 lbs, and i think this is the best tension for this type of string that goes very well with the PST. I am a string breaker, so anyone who can handle the 12 oz racquet with very less power i recommend give this PST a try. IMO this is a very good racquet with excellent control.

soggyramen
08-18-2007, 03:07 PM
Thanks for the review, Soggyramen. I bought 2 Pure Storm Tour Plus and after playing with them for 2 hours, i feel like i just improve alot scpecifically the serve and overhead. I totally with you that the PST has very low power. Mine, i got both strung with Lux Timo 17g, 1 at 56 lbs and 1 at 58 lbs. The one strung at 58 lbs makes the racquet very hard to hit, and i am amazed that eventhough it's strung with Luxilon, it has very low power. The one strung at 56 lbs is a whole lot better. Next time i'll have them strung with this string again at 54 lbs, and i think this is the best tension for this type of string that goes very well with the PST. I am a string breaker, so anyone who can handle the 12 oz racquet with very less power i recommend give this PST a try. IMO this is a very good racquet with excellent control.

at 56 it felt awesome to me. how did the touch and feel suit you with luxilon?

bluetrain4
08-18-2007, 04:10 PM
I am so interested in this racquet. I like that it is more flexible than other Babolat racquets, but I don't want it to be too "flexy", like the flex is the first thing you notice.

63 is a difficult flex rating to pinpoint, because it really could go either way in terms of how it feels.

I'm coming from a Prince Diablo mid with a 66 rating.

guedoguedo
08-18-2007, 04:14 PM
FWIW, i have a PC and love it. Right now hybrid with red code 55 lb. Thinking of going with cyberflash next to have even more spin/pop. Sweet racket!

TennezSport
08-18-2007, 04:36 PM
I just play tested it and I also love the racquet. It's the first racquet I believe that's almost identical to the Yonex RDS002 that I use. TS shots are really good and the control is great. Racquet was strung with Tecnifibre Xcel and it felt great on all shots and gave plenty of spin.

If I was to ever change from Yonex it would be to this Babolat racquet ( and I don not normally like Bab racquets), and I have tried a load of racquets from Head to Wilson to Prince to Volkl to Dunlop. For a Tour type racquet this stick is sweet.

TennezSport :cool:

soggyramen
08-18-2007, 05:23 PM
I just play tested it and I also love the racquet. It's the first racquet I believe that's almost identical to the Yonex RDS002 that I use. TS shots are really good and the control is great. Racquet was strung with Tecnifibre Xcel and it felt great on all shots and gave plenty of spin.

If I was to ever change from Yonex it would be to this Babolat racquet ( and I don not normally like Bab racquets), and I have tried a load of racquets from Head to Wilson to Prince to Volkl to Dunlop. For a Tour type racquet this stick is sweet.

TennezSport :cool:

yea a lot of people have been making comparisions to the 002 with this one

Bottle Rocket
08-18-2007, 05:34 PM
soggyramen,

Thanks for the review, I have a few questions for you if you don't mind.

You mention the stiffness several times, as well as the power level. A few other posters have also commented on the low power level. My question is, did you and everyone else consider the Pure Control to be low powered? Is there a significant drop off in power with this Pure Storm Tour versus the old PC?

What level player are you? If you're hitting aces with your kick serve, I'm guessing 4.5+?

haveheart
08-18-2007, 05:44 PM
For the folks that found this stick to be similar to the RDS 002, did you mean the heavier tour version? or the lighter version?

soggyramen
08-18-2007, 06:06 PM
soggyramen,

Thanks for the review, I have a few questions for you if you don't mind.

You mention the stiffness several times, as well as the power level. A few other posters have also commented on the low power level. My question is, did you and everyone else consider the Pure Control to be low powered? Is there a significant drop off in power with this Pure Storm Tour versus the old PC?

What level player are you? If you're hitting aces with your kick serve, I'm guessing 4.5+?

yes there is a bit of a drop in power from the PCT and in my opinion it's a good thing probably just because of the flex. I hit a kick serve anywhere from 85-95 miles an hour also my hitting partner isn't that good at returns if he sees he has to strech to get it he'll just let it go by :-D ha he's lazy i usually hit one or two a match. but yeah i'm a 4.5

A_Fish
08-18-2007, 07:34 PM
Hi soggyramen,

I am in testing of Babolats at the moment as I have just gained a sponsorship deal from them. I realy like the feel of the original pure storm, but would like a touch more power I think. How is the new pure storm for that? I think the old one is amazing for slice backhand - the ball stays so low.

I wonder if my lack of power is the string - I have pro hurricane 1.25 strung at 57. I tend to find alu power has a lot more grunt than the pro hurricane.

Also what is the new pure storm like on the serve? I know you reviewed the tour version, but its lack of power probably means it is not for me.... do you think that sounds right?

I like the Pure Drive Roddick, but sorta feels a bit mushy or something with the cortex. THe feel of the pure storm is awesome, I love the crisp firm feeling - is that what the new one is like?

Thanks for your help.

Forehand Forever
08-18-2007, 07:35 PM
What's the power of this racquet compared to the PD or the APD?

soggyramen
08-18-2007, 07:39 PM
What's the power of this racquet compared to the PD or the APD?

it'll be quite an adjustment you won't get away with short swings you gotta have fast and long ones to get it deep

soggyramen
08-18-2007, 07:41 PM
Hi soggyramen,

I am in testing of Babolats at the moment as I have just gained a sponsorship deal from them. I realy like the feel of the original pure storm, but would like a touch more power I think. How is the new pure storm for that? I think the old one is amazing for slice backhand - the ball stays so low.

I wonder if my lack of power is the string - I have pro hurricane 1.25 strung at 57. I tend to find alu power has a lot more grunt than the pro hurricane.

Also what is the new pure storm like on the serve? I know you reviewed the tour version, but its lack of power probably means it is not for me.... do you think that sounds right?

I like the Pure Drive Roddick, but sorta feels a bit mushy or something with the cortex. THe feel of the pure storm is awesome, I love the crisp firm feeling - is that what the new one is like?

Thanks for your help.

the new regular storm is too light and unstable but it's still low powered honestly i think the tour is miles ahead of the standard but you need a fast swing to get the power of the old storm again compact swings get you no where. but to your enjoyment the new storm still has great touch and feel

Forehand Forever
08-18-2007, 08:19 PM
it'll be quite an adjustment you won't get away with short swings you gotta have fast and long ones to get it deep

I've got the regular Pure Control. Is it the same or similar to that?

soggyramen
08-18-2007, 08:20 PM
I've got the regular Pure Control. Is it the same or similar to that?

very! just more flexy and a little less powerful since it's not as stiff

Bronc10is
08-18-2007, 08:22 PM
correct or clarify....you think the old pure storm team is better than the new one?

soggyramen
08-18-2007, 08:44 PM
correct or clarify....you think the old pure storm team is better than the new one?

no i don't like either of them but if you can't always produce long fast swings go for the old one and if you can go for the new one

Bronc10is
08-18-2007, 08:48 PM
i am currently trying to demo both of the new babolats..i think i might have a quicker delivery if i select to demo the pure storm tour +...i have never hit with an extended length racket, but I would say I am a 4.5-5.0 player, I play for a lower Division 1 college team and I am a counter puncher with a big flat serve, do you think a extended racket would make a huge difference?

Bronc10is
08-18-2007, 08:51 PM
by the way...you have been awesome answering all of the questions and the review

soggyramen
08-18-2007, 09:02 PM
by the way...you have been awesome answering all of the questions and the review

thanks i just love this racquet so much i think everyone should give it a chance. back to your question extended length racquets are more headlight but less manuverable so it's harder to excute volleys but it has more power due to the extra leverage. the first time i tried the PD i tried the plus version and hated it. a month later i convinced myself to try the standard and loved it but just wish it was better at volleys and had less power.

edit: oh and serves will have more power but i really wouldn't know to much i really don't like plus sized racquets

Bronc10is
08-18-2007, 09:05 PM
that .5 inch and 2 more points headlight really affect the racket that much?! lol

Duzza
08-18-2007, 09:06 PM
Could you confidently say that this is the racquet for anyone who liked the Pure Control but wanted a more arm friendly stiffness?

I feel my elbow is being weakened at the moment, and I'll probably grab a few of these to replace.

Bronc10is
08-18-2007, 09:08 PM
duzza, im assuming you found the pure control too stiff also?

soggyramen
08-18-2007, 09:15 PM
Could you confidently say that this is the racquet for anyone who liked the Pure Control but wanted a more arm friendly stiffness?

I feel my elbow is being weakened at the moment, and I'll probably grab a few of these to replace.

yea no doubt...i really liked the pure control but hated the stiffness but yes i could confidently say that statement i bought the racquet blindly and wouldn't ever look back

Bronc10is
08-18-2007, 09:18 PM
you are really selling me on this racket except...this was the exact scenario with my pure control...i would be in the deuce side of the court, i would run to the other side to chase a shot down..would try to throw up a one handed backhand defensive lob or a stab slice (i hit a two hander) and I would simply not get around on the ball....i dont know what to attribute that to, but I am scared this racket will do the same

soggyramen
08-18-2007, 09:23 PM
you are really selling me on this racket except...this was the exact scenario with my pure control...i would be in the deuce side of the court, i would run to the other side to chase a shot down..would try to throw up a one handed backhand defensive lob or a stab slice (i hit a two hander) and I would simply not get around on the ball....i dont know what to attribute that to, but I am scared this racket will do the same

i pulled off one or two of those this morning running from the ad to the deuce side but i've never had a problem like that. maybe it's just a technique thing i respect what you say but that's my opinion cuz i've never known anyone whos had that problem with a racquet

Bronc10is
08-18-2007, 09:26 PM
haha, yea its a weird problem to have..the higher weight scares me, I used to hit with the Radical Trisys (yellow and black) as my first racket ever (12.0 ounces), then i hit with the Ti. Radical which is a light racket (10.8 or 10.9). Then I changed to the Pure Control (11.8) and switched to the Pure Storm (10.9-11.1) so I am intimadated by switching back up to a high 11 ounce racket.

soggyramen
08-18-2007, 09:31 PM
it seemed scary to me as well but to me it's so headlight that it's no problem. i mean hey if a 13 year old girl i practice with can play with a 12.4 oz aero storm (customized) i'm sure you can play with this

Bronc10is
08-18-2007, 09:33 PM
haha, true..but is she playing against division 1 players that hit consistent 105+ serves? haha..also, i am a counter puncher-defensive player so I need to get my racket around...I am going to give this a test drive though, without a doubt...hopefully very soon since my order for it has been in for 2 weeks...but soggyramen, you have been great about it, anymore questions I have about this racket, I will somehow direct it to you through the forum

soggyramen
08-18-2007, 09:37 PM
haha, true..but is she playing against division 1 players that hit consistent 105+ serves? haha..also, i am a counter puncher-defensive player so I need to get my racket around...I am going to give this a test drive though, without a doubt...hopefully very soon since my order for it has been in for 2 weeks...but soggyramen, you have been great about it, anymore questions I have about this racket, I will somehow direct it to you through the forum

no problem at all if you need any more help or have any questions just post a topic calling me out and bump until i answer lol

Duzza
08-18-2007, 10:36 PM
duzza, im assuming you found the pure control too stiff also?

Yes, but I'm still using it for the performance factor.

soggyramen
08-18-2007, 10:45 PM
Yes, but I'm still using it for the performance factor.

the loss of stiffness really sells it for me

Duzza
08-18-2007, 10:53 PM
Yep, me too. I can't afford 3 brand new ones though!!! I'll have to wait for some FS/FT threads to appear :D

Forehand Forever
08-19-2007, 06:52 AM
I want to try this racquet out so badly but I don't think I can convince my mom to demo again. I guess I'll just have to wait until I find someone with it or my club gets it.

Bottle Rocket
08-20-2007, 07:08 PM
I gave in and ordered one...

I ordered the Pure Storm Tour+... I need a spare for my Pure Control+, so why not buy the new one? TW is going to string it just the way I string mine, which is with Cyber Flash at 57 lbs.

I guess I am in the same boat as many of the others and really woudn't mind a racket with the same specs as the Pure Control with some added flexibility. Hoipefully the loss in power and stability is insignificant and the review in this thread is accurate.

When the racket arrives and I get some time on it, I'll do a little write-up for those that might be interested. I am really looking forward to trying this thing out.

Looks like I am going to end up selling off my Pure Control standard now...

soggyramen
08-20-2007, 08:15 PM
I gave in and ordered one...

I ordered the Pure Storm Tour+... I need a spare for my Pure Control+, so why not buy the new one? TW is going to string it just the way I string mine, which is with Cyber Flash at 57 lbs.

I guess I am in the same boat as many of the others and really woudn't mind a racket with the same specs as the Pure Control with some added flexibility. Hoipefully the loss in power and stability is insignificant and the review in this thread is accurate.

When the racket arrives and I get some time on it, I'll do a little write-up for those that might be interested. I am really looking forward to trying this thing out.

Looks like I am going to end up selling off my Pure Control standard now...

remember it's buy at your own risk and everyone is different so you cannot blame me if you don't like it since i haven't tried the plus version but i hope you like it...happy hitting and where do you get loss of stability from...the racquet is very stable

Bottle Rocket
08-20-2007, 08:20 PM
remember it's buy at your own risk and everyone is different so you cannot blame me if you don't like it since i haven't tried the plus version but i hope you like it...happy hitting and where do you get loss of stability from...the racquet is very stable

I am not buying this racket because of your review, no worries. I won't blame you for a thing.

Stiffness tends to add stability and since these new rackets have a lower stiffness than the previous version, that is why I brought it up.

Whether the new material is a gimmick or not, I am very interested to see how they play.

You mentioned you're a 4.5... Are you playing tournaments? I am guessing you're a junior...?

soggyramen
08-20-2007, 08:26 PM
I am not buying this racket because of your review, no worries. I won't blame you for a thing.

Stiffness tends to add stability and since these new rackets have a lower stiffness than the previous version, that is why I brought it up.

Whether the new material is a gimmick or not, I am very interested to see how they play.

You mentioned you're a 4.5... Are you playing tournaments? I am guessing you're a junior...?

yea i played city tournaments (non sanction) but i'm looking for a partner to play doubles in some USTA tournaments with but i don't like playing singles...only at my high school

honestly i'm not looking to play alot of tourneys i just wanna have fun

Mickey Finn
08-20-2007, 09:18 PM
I'd like to see TW review both versions of the Pure Storm Tour soon. The flex rating is to my liking, though I would add weight. Based on the specs, it seems like a better player's racquet than the Pure Controls.

mileslong
08-20-2007, 09:39 PM
im going to give a mini review since i bought the new pure storm tour this past weekend and played with it tonight.

i played with the pure control for five years and then went back to my dunlops because they had better control. the pure control was a great serving stick with massive spin and the best return of serve stick i have ever played with. however, my backhand sucked with it, it had a hot spot in the middle which could result in a flyer from time to time. the backhand slice was terrible with it.

in my pro shop they had both the new pure storm tour and the new aerostorm as well. i bought both. the aerostorm absolutely sucked in my opion, no feel, felt like swinging a log with no feel at all. i sold it the next day. i played with the new pure storm tour tonight and it was awesome.

i just had them string it with some string i had leftover, gamma professional in the mains at 60lbs and sppp in the crosses at 56lbs. ill be brief with my review.

serves - just awesome, almost as much power as the pure control with with much better control. i was hitting some sick serves and acing the poor guy i played so much that he accused me of sandbagging. i could serve flat easier with the storm tour than the PC and the kickers were as potent as ever.

gourndies - great, from both sides, just MUCH more control than the PC, not even close in my opinion. i could hit great from both wings but the biggest difference was that i was having no problem with the backhand slice with the PST like i do with the PC. sick spin of course but i could flatten it out as well which is a must with me and i could keep the ball in easily. i havent hit this many winners down the line in one match maybe ever. angles as always are deadly with the PST like they are with the PC. just better depth control which is the key.

volleys - solid, good from both sides. i have always thought the pure control series were really good volley sticks despite the wider beam that most S&V players dislike.

overheads - hit four winners outright and banged one deep, no complaints here at all.

returns - like the PC, this racket may be the best return of serve racket there is. solid and will block back the ball anywhere you want it and it will keep it deep.

basically i have come full circle back to the babolat pure storm tour. i like flexy, heavy low powered rackets but this new one has better feel, definitely feels more flexy than the old PC and better control yet you can still serves bombs with it. i really excited about this new stick.

i cant wait to try some different string setups although this one works just great tonight. i normally put VS gut in the mains and lux ace or babolat hurricane pro in the crosses so i want to try it with this setup as well. i know now i can always go back to the one tonight although it was really an accident that i had these two half sets leftover. never combined them before.

i will be buying another one this week if they have the grip size i want. this is something i did different this time. i play a 4 3/8" grip but the babolat grips are so big that a 4 3/8" feels like a 4.5 or larger with an overgrip. so this time i got a 4 1/4 with a half shrink wrap which brings it up to a normal 4 3/8" size and it also makes the racket a point or two more headlight to around 9 pts headlight which is perfect, it doesnt swing as heavy as the specs say on the racket and it feels more flexible than it says on the racket. it does play like a 63 - 65 stiffness instead of 70 or 68 like it says on the racket.

GREAT job with this one babolat, ive come full circle and will hopefully stay another 5 years like i did before.

Ten_nuts
08-20-2007, 11:06 PM
Hi guys, is there any chance that Soggyramen and Bottle Rocket in in Orange County of South California? I really love to play single with any one of you. I replaced the grips of my PST plus with Wilson leather grips and added 0.13 oz lead tape at 12 o'clock, and that adds a little power to the stick. I think i am gona leave the lead tape like that. In my opinion the PST plus version is better than the PST standard for serving and overhead volley. Anyone has this PST plus should try the Luxilon Timo 17g at 56 lbs, and boy you will realize how good this racquet is. If anyone has tried the Aero Pro Control and liked it, Babolat made the Aero Storm that is almost identical to the Aero Pro Control except the Aero Storm is easier to swing. Someone said that this is a dead racquet? Try Luxilon Power Rough 16g at 52 lbs. The sring won't move, and the racquet is very solid in everyway. Right now in my bag i have: Wilson K tour 90 and K 61 95, Babolat Aero Storm and Pure Storm Tour plus, Head PT 280, and i only want to touch the Aero Storm and the PST plus. But i'll come back to the others in a while. Babolat's new Storm are really great.

Ross K
08-21-2007, 12:57 AM
im going to give a mini review since i bought the new pure storm tour this past weekend and played with it tonight.

i played with the pure control for five years and then went back to my dunlops because they had better control. the pure control was a great serving stick with massive spin and the best return of serve stick i have ever played with. however, my backhand sucked with it, it had a hot spot in the middle which could result in a flyer from time to time. the backhand slice was terrible with it.

in my pro shop they had both the new pure storm tour and the new aerostorm as well. i bought both. the aerostorm absolutely sucked in my opion, no feel, felt like swinging a log with no feel at all. i sold it the next day. i played with the new pure storm tour tonight and it was awesome.

i just had them string it with some string i had leftover, gamma professional in the mains at 60lbs and sppp in the crosses at 56lbs. ill be brief with my review.

serves - just awesome, almost as much power as the pure control with with much better control. i was hitting some sick serves and acing the poor guy i played so much that he accused me of sandbagging. i could serve flat easier with the storm tour than the PC and the kickers were as potent as ever.

gourndies - great, from both sides, just MUCH more control than the PC, not even close in my opinion. i could hit great from both wings but the biggest difference was that i was having no problem with the backhand slice with the PST like i do with the PC. sick spin of course but i could flatten it out as well which is a must with me and i could keep the ball in easily. i havent hit this many winners down the line in one match maybe ever. angles as always are deadly with the PST like they are with the PC. just better depth control which is the key.

volleys - solid, good from both sides. i have always thought the pure control series were really good volley sticks despite the wider bean than most S&V players like

overheads - hit four winners outright and banged one deep, no complaints here at all.

returns - like the PC, this racket may be the best return of serve racket there is. solid and will block back the ball anywhere you want it and it will keep it deep.

basically i have come full circle back to the babolat pure storm tour. i like flexy, heavy low powered rackets but this new one has better feel, definitely feels more flexy than the old PC and better control yet you can still serves bombs with it. i really excited about this new stick.

i cant wait to try some different string setups although this one works just great tonight. i normally put VS gut in the mains and lux ace or babolat hurricane pro in the crosses so i want to try it with this setup as well. i know now i can always go back to the one tonight although it was really an accident that i had these two half sets leftover. never combined them before.

i will be buying another one this week if they have the grip size i want. this is something i did different this time. i play a 4 3/8" grip but the babolat grips are so big that a 4 3/8" feels like a 4.5 or larger with an overgrip. so this time i got a 4 1/4 with a half shrink wrap which brings it up to a normal 4 3/8" size and it also makes the racket a point or two more headlight to around 9 pts headlight which is perfect, it doesnt swing as heavy as the specs say on the racket and it feels more flexible than it says on the racket. it does play like a 63 - 65 stiffness instead of 70 or 68 like it says on the racket.

GREAT job with this one babolat, ive come full circle and will hopefully stay another 5 years like i did before.

Uh oh!... I've only had my Pure Control for just about a week when I've gone and read this ^^^...!

I must say my early impressions of the Pure Control have been very positive. I'm far more comfortable with it, and it's much better suited to me than the PD+ I was previously using. It might also be mentioned that I'm having a bit of trouble with the swing weight (or at least I think that's the issue - I'm finding it a little hard sometimes to get around my shots, if that makes sense?) but it's such early days, judgement really needs to be reserved for quite a while yet whilst I adjust (and besides, the positives are numerous.)

But... but... but... but!...

Your mini-review is just about the most compelling I've read. The aspects you've highlighted makes it seem very attractive to me. All the boxes would appear to be ticked, if you know wht I mean?

So if I'm being honest, I reckon it's just a matter of time before I check it out... however, given that I live in the UK, and how all-around terrible (and criminally overpriced) it is to get hold of the latest racquets, it might be a little while yet!

Thanks again for your excellent and informative mini-review.

BTW, if it's your kind of thing, you should check out or join the Babolat Alliance thread (racquets section.) We'd love to have you post.

mileslong
08-21-2007, 01:02 AM
thanks for those kind words, i think if you have a little trouble getting around with your pure control then just add a leather grip and/or some lead in the handle to make it a bit more headlight and it should cure that problem. the racket is stable enough imo for any amateur player as is and just making it a tad more headlight for me is perfect...

TennezSport
08-21-2007, 08:45 AM
For the folks that found this stick to be similar to the RDS 002, did you mean the heavier tour version? or the lighter version?

Haveheart,

Didn't see anyone answer your question, so I will.

I have only tried the tour versions and the PST is a very sweet racquet. Good feel, with a balance of power and control. Find a good set of strings and this stick will sing for ya (demo was strung with Tecnifibre Xcel).

Hope this helps.

TennezSport :cool:

SFrazeur
08-21-2007, 08:57 AM
"Tecnifibre Xcel"? Isn't it Babolat Xcel? (Not referring to who makes the string but what brand it is under.)

-SF

Bottle Rocket
08-21-2007, 09:29 AM
mileslong,

Now you've got me too excited about this thing!

Once I get mine going, we'll have to start discussing string combinations in a little more detail. I have been using a full job of Cyber Flash on mine between 55-57 lbs depending on how I feel at the time of stringing. The first PC I ever had was strung with Luxilon ALU Power at 50 lbs and that is the one that sold me on these frames.

Your review actually seems to agree pretty well with the review of the original poster, so that is a good thing.

Ross K, that's great that you finally got a PC! Give it some more time, you should get used to the swingweight.

I think you're going to have to promote me again since this we'll be the 7th different Babolat frame that I have owned... ;)

TennezSport
08-21-2007, 10:10 AM
"Tecnifibre Xcel"? Isn't it Babolat Xcel? (Not referring to who makes the string but what brand it is under.)

-SF

SF,

You are correct, my bad. Serves me right for trying to do 3 things at the same time. Thanks for the correction.

TennezSport :cool:

PED
08-21-2007, 11:42 AM
I'll weigh in as someone who doesn't love the new pure storm tour. I could see how a pure control user would love it, but it just was not my cup of tea. I used to use a leaded up storm and I guess I assumed the tour would be a heavier but still flexy version of that. Part of the problem may be that the demo was strung with bab attraction at 60 and i usually use a poly strung at 55 or 54, but I just didn't care for it. I'm aware that my apd cortex has more pop but i was looking for something different in the tour. It's ironic that i could not wait to demo the tour but the other stick i was demoing was one that i was neutral on going into the test, microgel radical pro. I ended up loving that one. I felt the control was better, i had easier access to spin and i could really drill flat shots as well. That doesn't mean the storm tour isn't a great racquet for you guys...just not one for me. One last thought, i demoed an ag200 last week and really liked it, so i have no aversion to 'player's sticks"

rscottdds
08-21-2007, 12:56 PM
Part of the problem may be that the demo was strung with bab attraction at 60 and i usually use a poly strung at 55 or 54, "

That's the problem I have with demos. The string and tension make such a big difference. I know my son loves the PST+. He had a tourney this weekend and beat someone in straight sets who he's never taken a set off of, then took the #1 seed to a third set.

We just bought the racquet intending to sell it if he didn't like it. That way he could string it the way he wanted and also have an extended "demo". He first strung it at 60 (like his PD+) but imediately cut it out and strung at 58. He's going to try 56 next to get a tad more depth. I know you can't do this with every racquet but if he had just tried a demo at 60 he wouldn't be using it now.

-Robert

_mats_
08-21-2007, 01:06 PM
exactly my situation..
I had a demo coming up, I just canceled it and bought the PST+ with timo at 54lbs..

I figured Id rather sell if I feel like, rather than demoing something which is not optimal and having a bad impression.

Matt -

PED
08-21-2007, 01:27 PM
I would love to try the Tour at 54 or 55 with my blue gear and i suspect I would get the depth I desire on my groundstrokes. Another thing i will say is that the Tour is much more comfortable than the old pure control so i have no qualms there. The radical pro i tried was strung at 59 with FXP which i've used and liked.

bruguerabatigol
08-21-2007, 02:18 PM
I have the new pure storm strung with ashaway kevlar at 44 pounds in the mains and signum PPP in the crosses at 50 pounds both 17 gauge. Got nice control and im getting huge kick on my serves.

mileslong
08-21-2007, 03:28 PM
I have the new pure storm strung with ashaway kevlar at 44 pounds in the mains and signum PPP in the crosses at 50 pounds both 17 gauge. Got nice control and im getting huge kick on my serves.
are you using the new pure storm or the new pure storm tour?

DoubleHanded&LovinIt
08-21-2007, 04:24 PM
soggyramen--Thanks for your review. If you've played with the Pure Drive Roddick, care to compare the Pure Storm Tour to it?

soggyramen
08-21-2007, 04:59 PM
soggyramen--Thanks for your review. If you've played with the Pure Drive Roddick, care to compare the Pure Storm Tour to it?

no problem even though these racquets are kinda like a meat and potatoes comparison.

pure drive roddick:

pros: cons:
+lots of power -lots of power
+some decent control -not enought control
+great serves -bad volleys
+better comfort cuz of cortex -no feel
+baseliner stick -too stiff


pure storm tour:

pros: cons:
+flexibile -some off center shots feel uncomfortable
+still gives great serves
+wonderful control
+nice touch and feel
+good manuverability
+massive spin potential
+all court racket

Ross K
08-22-2007, 01:22 AM
Soggyramen,

I was wondering if it be okay to post your review in the Babolat Alliance thread? (I can cut and paste it, or you could just drop it in, so to speak.) If they haven't already done so, our members should definitely read this... btw, cheers for swingweight advice for the PC... although I think that's got little to do with how crap my 2her still remains to be!.. groan... aaaaanyway!...

bruguerabatigol
08-22-2007, 02:36 AM
Not the Tour version. Been using the new Storm.

A_Fish
08-22-2007, 03:18 AM
bruguerabatigol
What do you think of the new storm? Is it as powerful as the old one? Is it as powerful as the RDS001 MP?
Cheers

bruguerabatigol
08-22-2007, 04:13 AM
I think the new storm is great, I feel that it is more maneuverable
and has better control and just as much spin. At first I thought it was less powerful than the previous storm but you can easily compensate by stringing 4 pounds lower.

DoubleHanded&LovinIt
08-22-2007, 06:17 AM
soggyramen,
Where did you miss with the PST racquet on a consistent basis--long or short (including short balls)?

soggyramen
08-22-2007, 07:05 AM
Soggyramen,

I was wondering if it be okay to post your review in the Babolat Alliance thread? (I can cut and paste it, or you could just drop it in, so to speak.) If they haven't already done so, our members should definitely read this... btw, cheers for swingweight advice for the PC... although I think that's got little to do with how crap my 2her still remains to be!.. groan... aaaaanyway!...

go right ahead

soggyramen
08-22-2007, 07:07 AM
soggyramen,
Where did you miss with the PST racquet on a consistent basis--long or short (including short balls)?

short...i almost never hit long with this one

bluetrain4
08-22-2007, 08:09 PM
Unbelievable. When this racquet first came on TW, I thought the specs looked absolutely perfect.

But, I would have to wait a while to demo it since there seems to be a backlog at TW.

Then, tonight I was playing at my local outdoor tennis center (not a club, just outdoor public courts with a clubhouse) and the guy who runs it, who used to be just a Prince rep, all of a sudden this summer has started ordering a huge variety of frames for people to demo/use.

He had the new Aerostorm, the Pure Storm Tour, the Wilson K-Factor, ADPC, the new Fischers, Speedport Black, Speedport Tour, just to name a few.

It's insane. Anyway, He gave me the Pure Storm Tour to use through the weekend. I can't believe how lucky I am.

I can't wait to hit with it tomorrow. It's a nice looking frame and feels great in my hands (though that doesn't mean much).

This could be my new racquet.

soggyramen
08-22-2007, 08:42 PM
Unbelievable. When this racquet first came on TW, I thought the specs looked absolutely perfect.

But, I would have to wait a while to demo it since there seems to be a backlog at TW.

Then, tonight I was playing at my local outdoor tennis center (not a club, just outdoor public courts with a clubhouse) and the guy who runs it, who used to be just a Prince rep, all of a sudden this summer has started ordering a huge variety of frames for people to demo/use.

He had the new Aerostorm, the Pure Storm Tour, the Wilson K-Factor, ADPC, the new Fischers, Speedport Black, Speedport Tour, just to name a few.

It's insane. Anyway, He gave me the Pure Storm Tour to use through the weekend. I can't believe how lucky I am.

I can't wait to hit with it tomorrow. It's a nice looking frame and feels great in my hands (though that doesn't mean much).

This could be my new racquet.

happy hitting my friend i'm sure you will enjoy it...if he offers to let u try the aerostorm...turn it down...it sucks so bad i can laugh about it

bluetrain4
08-22-2007, 08:51 PM
happy hitting my friend i'm sure you will enjoy it...if he offers to let u try the aerostorm...turn it down...it sucks so bad i can laugh about it

Soggyramen, did you add any lead? Seems almost perfect as is. Just wondering.

I wanted something slightly bigger, slightly lighter (and less cumbersome), and slightly more flexible (but not too flexible) than my Prince Diablo mid.

This meets all of that criteria.

soggyramen
08-22-2007, 08:57 PM
no actually i didn't which i usually add lead to my racquets it feels light enough while still having excellent heft and stability. it has great flex and keeps the arm feeling great and gives that wonderful feel on well placed ground strokes.

it's one of most solid racquets in the heft department...with the prostaff tour 90 coming in second (my second love)

bluetrain4
08-22-2007, 09:05 PM
no actually i didn't which i usually add lead to my racquets it feels light enough while still having excellent heft and stability. it has great flex and keeps the arm feeling great and gives that wonderful feel on well placed ground strokes.

it's one of most solid racquets in the heft department...with the prostaff tour 90 coming in second (my second love)


One more question. I'm worried about the flex, even though 63 doesn't seem that flexy.

Does it still feel solid, or is "flexy" the overwhelming sensation. I really can't stand that. There's good flex and bad.

I guess I'll find out tomorrow.

Bronc10is
08-22-2007, 10:13 PM
it feels extremely solid, but unlike the pure control, it doesnt feel like a brick wall. id say its almost perfect as it is solid yet not over stiff.

AJK1
08-22-2007, 11:11 PM
Why put images of what it will be like in your head, just go out and hit with the darn thing!

bluetrain4
08-22-2007, 11:31 PM
Why put images of what it will be like in your head, just go out and hit with the darn thing!

I know, I know. Just wanted to get some feedback.

Ross K
08-23-2007, 12:20 AM
... unlike the pure control, it doesnt feel like a brick wall...

This should be posted on The Alternative Brief Connoisseur's Racquet Review thread!

Jamtix
08-26-2007, 07:46 PM
On my last Babolat (Aero drive) real grip was half-size bigger. Is this characteristic for new PST? Now I using Dunlop McEnroe 4 5/8, but if Babolats grip bigger, I will prefer 4 1/2.

Bronc10is
08-26-2007, 08:09 PM
jamtix...babolat grips are a little big, i usually use 4 1/2 with every racket, but I've always used 4 1/2 with my Babolat...my demo of the PST is a 4 3/8 and its fine..never used a 4 3/8 but this demo feels fine. I am going to order the racket in 3/8 .

Lee James
08-28-2007, 06:30 PM
no actually i didn't which i usually add lead to my racquets it feels light enough while still having excellent heft and stability. it has great flex and keeps the arm feeling great and gives that wonderful feel on well placed ground strokes.

it's one of most solid racquets in the heft department...with the prostaff tour 90 coming in second (my second love)

For someone who is currently using the prostaff tour 90, but wants something slightly lighter, and slightly stiffer, but with great control, would you reccomend the pure storm tour? Could you give me a quick comparison of the 2? Thanks

gonevcrazy
08-28-2007, 11:03 PM
jamtix...babolat grips are a little big, i usually use 4 1/2 with every racket, but I've always used 4 1/2 with my Babolat...my demo of the PST is a 4 3/8 and its fine..never used a 4 3/8 but this demo feels fine. I am going to order the racket in 3/8 .

I'm used to 4 3/8 normally with any other racket. But with PST, I had to order 4 1/4...definitely order 1 size smaller than what u're used to...for some reason this racket's grip is slightly bigger than normal....

HeadPrestige
08-31-2007, 09:01 PM
I recently switched from the flexpoint prestige MP to the babolat pure storm tour.

First off, the only reason i switched is because i have developed a bad case of tennis elbow. If i hadn't i would have kept my prestige.. it really is a great racket.

So far, the racket has been pretty good. A few things i miss about the prestige though are the smaller sweetspot (shots felt better when you hit it) and the closed string pattern.

The PST has a very comfortable feel.. which is what i need. I am still undecided whether this will be the right racket for me or not.. it will take a while to adjust.

Lee James
08-31-2007, 09:15 PM
I recently switched from the flexpoint prestige MP to the babolat pure storm tour.

First off, the only reason i switched is because i have developed a bad case of tennis elbow. If i hadn't i would have kept my prestige.. it really is a great racket.

So far, the racket has been pretty good. A few things i miss about the prestige though are the smaller sweetspot (shots felt better when you hit it) and the closed string pattern.

The PST has a very comfortable feel.. which is what i need. I am still undecided whether this will be the right racket for me or not.. it will take a while to adjust.

Could you compare and contrast those 2 racquets. I'm really trying to pick between the two.