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Thanatos
11-05-2004, 06:41 AM
Michael Moore is a Big Mac eating loser and will always be a loser!
He's been in hiding since the election. However, he has managed to crawl out of his mud hole and post this msg on his web page.


17 Reasons Not to Slit Your Wrists...by Michael Moore

Dear Friends,

Ok, it sucks. Really sucks. But before you go and cash it all in, let's, in the words of Monty Python, ďalways look on the bright side of life!Ē There IS some good news from Tuesday's election.

Here are 17 reasons not to slit your wrists:

1. It is against the law for George W. Bush to run for president again.

2. Bush's victory was the NARROWEST win for a sitting president since Woodrow Wilson in 1916.

3. The only age group in which the majority voted for Kerry was young adults (Kerry: 54%, Bush: 44%), proving once again that your parents are always wrong and you should never listen to them.

4. In spite of Bush's win, the majority of Americans still think the country is headed in the wrong direction (56%), think the war wasn't worth fighting (51%), and donít approve of the job George W. Bush is doing (52%). (Note to foreigners: Don't try to figure this one out. It's an American thing, like Pop Tarts.)

5. The Republicans will not have a filibuster-proof 60-seat majority in the Senate. If the Democrats do their job, Bush won't be able to pack the Supreme Court with right-wing ideologues. Did I say "if the Democrats do their job?" Um, maybe better to scratch this one.

6. Michigan voted for Kerry! So did the entire Northeast, the birthplace of our democracy. So did 6 of the 8 Great Lakes States. And the whole West Coast! Plus Hawaii. Ok, that's a start. We've got most of the fresh water, all of Broadway, and Mt. St. Helens. We can dehydrate them or bury them in lava. And no more show tunes!

7. Once again we are reminded that the buckeye is a nut, and not just any old nut -- a poisonous nut. A great nation was felled by a poisonous nut. May Ohio State pay dearly this Saturday when it faces Michigan.

8. 88% of Bush's support came from white voters. In 50 years, America will no longer have a white majority. Hey, 50 years isn't such a long time! If you're ten years old and reading this, your golden years will be truly golden and you will be well cared for in your old age.

9. Gays, thanks to the ballot measures passed on Tuesday, cannot get married in 11 new states. Thank God. Just think of all those wedding gifts we won't have to buy now.

10. Five more African Americans were elected as members of Congress, including the return of Cynthia McKinney of Georgia. It's always good to have more blacks in there fighting for us and doing the job our candidates can't.

11. The CEO of Coors was defeated for Senate in Colorado. Drink up!

12. Admit it: We like the Bush twins and we don't want them to go away.

13. At the state legislative level, Democrats picked up a net of at least 3 chambers in Tuesday's elections. Of the 98 partisan-controlled state legislative chambers (house/assembly and senate), Democrats went into the 2004 elections in control of 44 chambers, Republicans controlled 53 chambers, and 1 chamber was tied. After Tuesday, Democrats now control 47 chambers, Republicans control 49 chambers, 1 chamber is tied and 1 chamber (Montana House) is still undecided.

14. Bush is now a lame duck president. He will have no greater moment than the one he's having this week. It's all downhill for him from here on out -- and, more significantly, he's just not going to want to do all the hard work that will be expected of him. It'll be like everyone's last month in 12th grade -- you've already made it, so it's party time! Perhaps he'll treat the next four years like a permanent Friday, spending even more time at the ranch or in Kennebunkport. And why shouldn't he? He's already proved his point, avenged his father and kicked our ***.

15. Should Bush decide to show up to work and take this country down a very dark road, it is also just as likely that either of the following two scenarios will happen: a) Now that he doesn't ever need to pander to the Christian conservatives again to get elected, someone may whisper in his ear that he should spend these last four years building "a legacy" so that history will render a kinder verdict on him and thus he will not push for too aggressive a right-wing agenda; or b) He will become so cocky and arrogant -- and thus, reckless -- that he will commit a blunder of such major proportions that even his own party will have to remove him from office.

16. There are nearly 300 million Americans -- 200 million of them of voting age. We only lost by three and a half million! That's not a landslide -- it means we're almost there. Imagine losing by 20 million. If you had 58 yards to go before you reached the goal line and then you barreled down 55 of those yards, would you stop on the three yard line, pick up the ball and go home crying -- especially when you get to start the next down on the three yard line? Of course not! Buck up! Have hope! More sports analogies are coming!!!

17. Finally and most importantly, over 55 million Americans voted for the candidate dubbed "The #1 Liberal in the Senate." That's more than the total number of voters who voted for either Reagan, Bush I, Clinton or Gore. Again, more people voted for Kerry than Reagan. If the media are looking for a trend it should be this -- that so many Americans were, for the first time since Kennedy, willing to vote for an out-and-out liberal. The country has always been filled with evangelicals -- that is not news. What IS news is that so many people have shifted toward a Massachusetts liberal. In fact, that's BIG news. Which means, don't expect the mainstream media, the ones who brought you the Iraq War, to ever report the real truth about November 2, 2004. In fact, it's better that they don't. We'll need the element of surprise in 2008.

Feeling better? I hope so. As my friend Mort wrote me yesterday, "My Romanian grandfather used to say to me, 'Remember, Morton, this is such a wonderful country -- it doesn't even need a president!'"

But it needs us. Rest up, I'll write you again tomorrow.

Yours,

Michael Moore
MMFlint@aol.com
www.michaelmoore.com

Gatsby007
11-05-2004, 07:04 AM
If I was Micheal Moore I would go ahead and Kill myself (really)!! It's halarious! That loser thought he was going to influence the election, and to that I say Mission Acomplished :)
I can't waite to see how the Democratic party will now throw him in the trash in an effort to resurect thier broken party. Hey here's an idea if you ever want to get in the White House or get close to gaining control of one of the houses get rid of Jesse Jack-*** as well! The Bush win is trully the "The Gift That Keeps On Giving"! I just love watching all of these liberal west coast freek-shows in misery! Christmas has come a month early this year!

Thanatos
11-05-2004, 07:12 AM
Just making a loser's list. Please feel free to add:

Loser's List
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Sean Penn
Madonna
Linda Ronstandt
Ted Kennedy
Al Sharpton
Robert Redford (promised he would moved to Ireland if Kerry lost)

@wright
11-05-2004, 07:21 AM
Thanatos, you forgot Bruce Springsteen, Alec Baldwin, Kaballah, Jennifer Anniston & Brad Pitt, and Jon Bon Jovi (the 80's are over, loser!). That was poetic justice to see Michael Moore's writings after an election he thought he could impact. Sorry, fat boy, may as well eat 'til you pop. How bout some humble pie? Just shows you money doesn't bring class, or Moore-on might not be such white trash.

Jonas
11-05-2004, 07:24 AM
Thanatos,
Just make that 99.9 % of Hollywood and "The Boss"
This has to be a crushing blow for the egos of the elite. The people decided they didn't want to get their politics from for the most part ignorant idealogues.
What was up with that P. Diddy Vote of Die campaign??
What's he going to do now, get the gun that he killed that guy with in that night-club in '99 and turn it on Americas youth??

@wright
11-05-2004, 07:27 AM
I saw an interview with P. Diddy on election night and he thought he was very successful with his campaign. Flaming Arrogance plagues the liberals, especially the elites that run things. Too proud to say that his campaign didn't impact the election much.

NoBadMojo
11-05-2004, 07:56 AM
if kerry would have won, moore would have been a hero. and many of the same people bashing him now would be worshipping him. moore is a classic example about what is good about this country...you can have beliefs and express them and be considered by those who are willing to consider and arent consumed by fear and voted for the Bush who has done probably the worst job of any president in history (he couldnt run a company that was given to him before, he had no ambition even at 40 years old, the financial deals he did mostly all failed miserably, he is the lowest IQ president since that stuff was recorded, he is single handedly responsible for the murdering of countless thousands of innocent people, he took a large surplus and turned it into a deficit, he had a net job loss during his tuerm, and the list goes on..etc etc)....maybe people reading this can remind us of something good he has done (and dont say retaliation for an attack by terrorism on our soil because every president would have done that,,and done it much better)...moore's a smart guy and i thought this list was pretty funny..it's pretty easy to slam someone when they arent on top.

AAAA
11-05-2004, 08:01 AM
I'm Sorry but Madonna is a winner and a survivor. If you object to celebrities using 'their stage' to express their views maybe you shouldn't use your stage either.

Regarding Michael Moore, will Bush authorise secretly flying him out of the country, out of harms way LOL.

Thanatos
11-05-2004, 08:20 AM
if kerry would have won, moore would have been a hero. and many of the same people bashing him now would be worshipping him. ...moore's a smart guy and i thought this list was pretty funny..it's pretty easy to slam someone when they arent on top.

NoBadMojo...if I was 6'5 I could serve tennis balls @130+mph.
The reality is I'm not and I can't serve balls @130+mph.

The reality is Kerry lost and Moore is a big time loser! He used clips of factual events and puts them out of context , then calls it a documentary. He's a proprogandist who likes to twist the truth for his own socialist ideas. As a matter of fact, I would think the democratic party would have done much better without his help.
He's in hiding now that's why he has not done any interviews since the election.

I'm not even going to debate you on Bush since I has been exhausted on other threads.

don knot
11-05-2004, 08:22 AM
NoBad Mojo,
Anyone who thinks Mr. Moore is o.k. is not worthy of a response. I would estimate that 85% of the democratic party would agree that he is a freak. Sadly it's people with your views that have decimated the once noble Democratic party.
How would you defend the fact that the President is the first incumbent to win and to pick up seats in both houses since FDR? Obviously sir, you are in the minority and do not share the views/values of the majority of the country. Canada is just a short flight away!

Phil
11-05-2004, 08:23 AM
I saw an interview with P. Diddy on election night and he thought he was very successful with his campaign. Flaming Arrogance plagues the liberals, especially the elites that run things. Too proud to say that his campaign didn't impact the election much.


Who exactly are of these "Elites" that you speak of?

Last I heard, most of the elite that runs things-i.e. CEO's of multinational corporations, made large donations to the Bush campaign. If you bring up CNN, as I expect you to do, then you're a mo-ron...CNN doesn't run much of anything. The money people do, and they are, overwhelmingly, in Bush's camp. If, for some reason, they did NOT support him, then believe me, Bush would be back in Crawford drinking away the memory of his defeat. A president doesn't win office or stay in power these days without that kind of backing.

don knot
11-05-2004, 08:26 AM
Why on earth would anyone listen to a has-been like Madonna? Celebrities should stick to being celebrities and keep these ignorant opinions within. That's not just my opinion, but that of America :) (obviously)

don knot
11-05-2004, 08:29 AM
If I may bring to your attention George Sorros. He contributed the single largest amount of money to either campaign as he WASTED upwards of 30 million dollars of his own money in the Kerry defeat. What a fool.

NoBadMojo
11-05-2004, 08:31 AM
thanatos? huh? your coment is contradictory. i gues you dont think bush isnt a propoganist and doesnt take things out of context or twist the truth?
don knot - i'm not a democrat so whats your point?..i would defend the picking up of the seats etc by saying that our nation voted out of fear rather than intelligence. too bad you dont think what i say is worthy of a response..you have just revealed your true nature w. that coment and i can see why you wouldnt think that moore serves a purpose.

so why dont the two of you then tell us some good things Bush has done rather than ridicule michael moore, me, and who ever else happens to disagree what your own personal vision of what the truth is?

Thanatos
11-05-2004, 08:36 AM
If I may bring to your attention George Sorros. He contributed the single largest amount of money to either campaign as he WASTED upwards of 30 million dollars of his own money in the Kerry defeat. What a fool.

Latest news on George Sorros is that he has tucked his tail and flew to Europe. Do you think he would have stayed in the US if Kerry won?

Jonas
11-05-2004, 08:41 AM
NoBad,
It's not a Dem. or Republican thing with Moore. It's just an issue with moral people. Of course there is going to be a small following for Moore, but you won't find too many reasonable or nice people for that matter that would go to bat for Moore. I wish I wouldn't have read your post defending Moore, now I have lost a lot of respect for you.

NoBadMojo
11-05-2004, 08:54 AM
jonas..no worries..the ony thing i said about moore is that he is smart and funny and that it is good that we live in a country that allows these sorts if freedoms. to me..i have a probem morally with someone who has almost single handedly been responsibe for the murder of a bunch of innocent people...thousands of them. i reaize that more's films arent real documentaries, but they do serve a valid purpose in a true democracy.....so go ahead and lose respect for everyone who thinks someone is smart and funny if you like...and you too are also welcome to compile a list of positive things bush has done whilst in office..i would like to support the guy, but would need some reasons to do so other than he fights terrorism because every president would do that and do it far better

AAAA
11-05-2004, 08:56 AM
Why on earth would anyone listen to a has-been like Madonna? Celebrities should stick to being celebrities and keep these ignorant opinions within. That's not just my opinion, but that of America :) (obviously)

Why do some Bush supporters, not neccessarily you, get so worked up when someone with a voice expresses a different viewpoint even if by your opinion it is wrong? Thoughts of easily lead sheep come to mind.

@wright
11-05-2004, 09:01 AM
Phil, I am talking about the people who run the media. Are you going to tell me that Tom Brokaw made a large donation to the Bush campaign? Brokaw had **** running through his veins when he had to cover the victory. I can't stand Moore, but I have to agree, if I was liberal I still wouldn't respect him, but I might think he's funny I guess. Yes, the entertainers who feel compelled to speak out are definitely easily lead sheep. They know their super-rich liberal friends will think less of them if they are anything less than a flaming liberal, so they make it their life's work to promote the cause, which they are not affected by at all. That is the problem with the Democratic party, how can you cater to John Kerry and homeless people at the same time? It's not possible. Many have cited one of the mail reason's for the outcome of the election as the major democrats being too willing to do what Hollywood says.

AAAA
11-05-2004, 09:05 AM
If I may bring to your attention George Sorros. He contributed the single largest amount of money to either campaign as he WASTED upwards of 30 million dollars of his own money in the Kerry defeat. What a fool.

Do you know who Soros is? 30m is pocket change to a man of his means.

Thanatos
11-05-2004, 09:09 AM
I forgot one...Dan Rather from CBS. When are they going to fire his a55 for assisting in the distribution of falsified government documents! I can't trust anything that comes out of his mouth anymore.

don knot
11-05-2004, 09:10 AM
AAA, A perfect example of lead sheep would this. Tipper Gore, the wife of another pretty pathetic candidate from 4 years ago championed for the music industy to have to put "Parental Warings" on all music albums that have explicit content. Fastforward now about 15 years. While AL Gore ran for President in 2000, Tipper spent the majority of his campaign stumping in Hollywood and gruvelling at the feet of the Hollywood Elite for forrgiveness for her previous actions.

Now about Madonna (or) Esther :)
Let me make this quick and pithy statement.
Let me take a break from my Kabalah studies to go grind on this Pregnant back-up dancer :)

Bhagi Katbamna
11-05-2004, 09:33 AM
P DIDn't

don knot
11-05-2004, 09:34 AM
AAA, I know who the creep is, what is your point? It is irelevant how many billions of dollars he has. That is still a massive contribution by one man that has been un-matched. In a losing effort, I might ad.

NoBad, If you are so concerned about someone who takes the lives on innocent people than where do you stand on Sadam?
He brutally killed, Raped, Gassed, and Blew up countless numbers of people for absolutely NO reason as all.
That infact takes me to point number one of what Bush has accomplished in his 1st term. He removed the most brutal dictator since Adolph Hitler. Do you think the innocent citizens of Iraq/Kuwait deserved the type of punishment given to them by SH? Let me guess, you are morning the almost death of Yasser Arafat? I also dis-agree with your statement that every President would have fought terrorrism. Kerry would have needed permission from the French/Germans before defending us. President Bush has and will never leave the security of our people in the hands of idiots. I also assume that you beleive Bush is responsible for the colapse of the Economy after 9/11, will bring back the draft, and not give old people thier s.s. checks. The economy is on the rebound, home ownership is at an all time high (with minorites as well) We have not had an attack since 9/11 (not b/c they have'y tried). We have freed and liberated tons of innocent people. I am not advocating that the President is perfect(no one is), but he obviously was the right man at the right time. Slam-Dunk!

Phil
11-05-2004, 09:41 AM
@wright - Brokaw is an ANCHORMAN. He doesn't run anything. He's a glorified newsreader. The real elite, in case you didn't know, are the heads of multinationall corporations. NBC is owned by General Electric. ABC is run by Disney (you know, the family values people who passed on F911). CBS is owned by Viacom whose CEO publically stated that he voted for Bush. These are not "liberal" companies and yes, I'm sure Brokaw's bosses contributed to GWB's campaign. If you bothered to take your head out of your a** you could look beyond the thin curtains and see the powers behind the talking heads-the Liberal Media is a myth. Conservatives just don't like ANYONE digging into their filthy secrets, so anyone who DOES-and the networks are OBLIGED to do that sometimes (other than FOX)-becomes conservative boogyman. You allegedly work in the media-I would think your take on it would be just a tad more sophisticated than most laymen, but even you sprout the same tired old garbage.

tennis-n-sc
11-05-2004, 09:50 AM
Michael Moore, that great American, is counting his money earned by all those that paid hard earned cash to watch half truths and inuendos. Bless his heart, he is what is great about this country. An opportunist playing on the misguided emotions of his fellow citizens for personal gain. Please don't give this idiot anymore of your money. I wonder how the wonder boys of Hollywood will look and his latest celluloid creation at Academy Awards nite. I bet he wins best of everything. Only in America! I still can't bring myself to burn the "Bosses' " CDs. Damn it.

Thanatos
11-05-2004, 09:55 AM
so why dont the two of you then tell us some good things Bush has done rather than ridicule michael moore, me, and who ever else happens to disagree what your own personal vision of what the truth is?

NoBadMojo..here's another one to add to your list!

US job gains are highest in 7 months
http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/articleshow/913900.cms

Thanatos
11-05-2004, 09:57 AM
I still can't bring myself to burn the "Bosses' " CDs. Damn it.

You don't have to burn his CD. You can listen to his music and not his politics.

NoBadMojo
11-05-2004, 10:00 AM
don knot your post is irrelevent and you really havent said anything that bush has accomplished other than perhaps the home ownership thing which i can neither confirm nor deny. your saddam comment doesnt deserve a response. we havent yet freed and liberated thousands of people..so far we have made their conditions worse and also made terrorism worse, and have killed thousands of innocents in the process. so by what you are saying you must think the US should just go around and systematically wipe out every evil dictator on the face of the planet? what would that say about us other than we wish to control the world...oh yea..thats another really good thing Bush has done w. the UN too. most cogent people understand that the middle east has always been a hotbed of this stuff...bush has opened the box now and the world is paying for it

NoBadMojo
11-05-2004, 10:07 AM
hey thanatos..thats great! biggest job gains in 7 months!!!!! zowie! go bush!! i though the Bush has been our pres for 4 years already?? he's had a net loss in jobs since he's been in office...

david aames
11-05-2004, 10:16 AM
You can add to the list Richard Parsons, the head of AOL Time Warner (CNN's parent company) who supported and contributed to the Bush reelection campaign...

NBC is owned by General Electric. ABC is run by Disney (you know, the family values people who passed on F911). CBS is owned by Viacom whose CEO publically stated that he voted for Bush. These are not "liberal" companies and yes, I'm sure Brokaw's bosses contributed to GWB's campaign.

@wright
11-05-2004, 10:19 AM
I didn't say Brokaw was more than an anchorman, but you would think he has a string tied around his genitals with the other end being held by liberal bigshots. Why do Brokaw's bosses allow him to be so partisan in his reporting? Anyone can watch this crap and tell who he is working for...You're "sure" that Brokaw's bosses contributed to the Bush campaign? Well Hell, Phil's "sure" of something, that must be as good as hard evidence. Do you even realize what your posts sound like? Meaningless drivel. I would think you would be intelligent enough to realize (you sure seem like you think you are) that anyone working in the media isn't necessarily in the know about what goes on behind closed doors of these huge corporations. Did I say I was on the board at Viacom or something? You know where I live, does my state even have headquarters for any of these companies? The only tired garbage is this crap that you post about every damn day only leaving more posters with the impression that you are a moron.

Phil
11-05-2004, 10:37 AM
I said that you being in media (allegedly) may give you a bit more insight into how things work. That's not the same as saying that you're on the board of Viacom, now is it? Is it?

Obviously you DO NOT have any more insight on this subject than the rabble of mindless drones spoon fed on the poisonous garbage from Rush and Co. YOU calling ME a moron, ignorant, etc. is...funny. Some people are too dumb to realize they've been owned. But keep it comming, Mr. K3.

The tennis guy
11-05-2004, 10:41 AM
Great discussions. Oh, God bless America! We are so far down, even God can't save us anymore.

don knot
11-05-2004, 10:50 AM
Mojo,
My post could not be more relevant. You tried to act like you are so worried about inncoents being killed, but you conveniently avoided answering you position on Sadam's murderous reign. As of a matter of a fact, YES America is the protector of the world and every dicatator that kills it's own people should be overthrown. I wish you would have never gotten into this, because everynow and then you have some good things to say in the tennis section, but you have shown what an extreme weirdo you are in this section. If you think it's o.k. for brutal dicatators to kill just because it's in their own country and not anyone else's you are an idiot. I will not waste my time with you anymore (no more credibility you have)

Thanatos
11-05-2004, 11:04 AM
hey thanatos..thats great! biggest job gains in 7 months!!!!! zowie! go bush!! i though the Bush has been our pres for 4 years already?? he's had a net loss in jobs since he's been in office...

Our economy went into recession during the last 3-months of the Clinton's administration. The recession was due to a number of different factors (I donít have time to list them all). The first factor involved the Internet stock bubble. Stocks were being over-valued by financial analyses. Investors were confidently pouring money into mutual funds and internet companies left and right. Once the company didn't present a profit they started laying people off, which resultantly caused a chain-reaction. For example, Yahoo.com once was as high as $360/share. For an internet portal thatís crazy! The second major hit was the attack on 9/11, which resulted in thousands of good people losing their jobs.

Bush was the next president in line after Clinton, so it was natural for people like YOU to use him as a scapegoat. Now he's trying hard to add more jobs. You ask for some evidence and I gave you the most recent one, but yet you still mock. Bush is trying to save social security so that our generation will have something left. Clinton didnít care about social security. He was too busy trying to get his %ick sucked by Monica.
In addition, Bush is trying to simplify the tax laws and reduce taxes. Just bc Bush was the last President doesnít mean he was the one that broke the economy.

I know that nothing I can say will convince you otherwise. I think you are a well-educated man, but your bias is clouding your judgment.

NoBadMojo
11-05-2004, 11:13 AM
don knot you have revealed your true nature and i dont appreciate being called an idiot. i did not attack you personally. as far as me not commenting on saddam of course i think he is bad and did evil inexcusable things. that goes without saying. and also says alot aout you that you think my tennis posts are now irrelevent because i happen to think that bush has done a lousy job and that i think michael moore is smart and funny. shame on you for calling people names like that. thanatos, sorry but a job gain over 7months in a 4 year period is in no way any sort of imperical evidence of bush doing a good job.

mlee2
11-05-2004, 02:28 PM
From what I heard around my 'liberal' news sources, it was the Democrats that spent about $10-20 million dollars more on this year's campaign than the Republicans. Pretty ironic.

Michael Moore is extremely funny/witty but is also extremely manipulative with facts. I hate to admit it, but these rednecks are right:

Moore's radical agenda will be the downfall of the Democratic Party if he's allowed to influence anything.

Also ironic is if Moore didn't endorse Nader in 2000, those votes (caused by him) might have been enough to see Gore elected and Moore would have to end up b!tching about the moderate Democrats instead of Bush.

mlee2
11-05-2004, 02:31 PM
I'll concede that Bush had little to do with our broken economy but taking a hands-off approach to regulating big corporations and off-shoring jobs as he has, is inexcusable.

thejerk
11-05-2004, 04:47 PM
When you start talking about out sourcing, I wonder if you ever stop to think about in sourcing. Ever heard of Toyota or Honda? I don't know the numbers right off the bat and I could be wrong, but, in reguards to in sourcing and out sourcing, I've heard that there is a net gain in jobs.

AAAA
11-05-2004, 04:52 PM
AAA, A perfect example of lead sheep would this. Tipper Gore, the wife of another pretty pathetic candidate from 4 years ago championed for the music industy to have to put "Parental Warings" on all music albums that have explicit content. Fastforward now about 15 years. While AL Gore ran for President in 2000, Tipper spent the majority of his campaign stumping in Hollywood and gruvelling at the feet of the Hollywood Elite for forrgiveness for her previous actions.

Now about Madonna (or) Esther :)
Let me make this quick and pithy statement.
Let me take a break from my Kabalah studies to go grind on this Pregnant back-up dancer :)

You can mention a few score of celebrities but I'm talking about the uniformed masses/millions who voted for Bush because Bush became their friend. It wasn't difficult; all he had to say was :

'I believe in God', 'I'm a family man','Those evil doers'.

To the sheep that makes him 'one of us'.

perfmode
11-05-2004, 04:57 PM
I saw an interview with P. Diddy on election night and he thought he was very successful with his campaign. Flaming Arrogance plagues the liberals, especially the elites that run things. Too proud to say that his campaign didn't impact the election much.

He was successful. He signed up more voters than he could have ever imagined. It just wasn't enough though. Also, I doubt Vote or Die is revelant in Ohio. He also sold more "VOD" T-shirts than he expected.

AAAA
11-05-2004, 05:04 PM
AAA, I know who the creep is, what is your point? It is irelevant how many billions of dollars he has. That is still a massive contribution by one man that has been un-matched. In a losing effort, I might ad.


Did you not write the following?


If I may bring to your attention George Sorros. He contributed the single largest amount of money to either campaign as he WASTED upwards of 30 million dollars of his own money in the Kerry defeat. what a fool.


The point is if you are gloating over Soros's 30m deficit don't bother. His net worth in this context is relevant because 30m to someone like him is not much. To him it's a power game. He'll make the money back with a few deals because he can.

AAAA
11-05-2004, 05:20 PM
Don:

He brutally killed, Raped, Gassed, and Blew up countless numbers of people for absolutely NO reason as all.


Actually he did it to maintain power like dictators in South America and Sudan. Will the great protector do something about the innocent victims in those places and will you support military action against those regimes when those places have no resources of benefit to the country?


I also dis-agree with your statement that every President would have fought terrorrism. Kerry would have needed permission from the French/Germans before defending us.

Wrong. Kerry said he would ask them but then add he expects them to 'step up to the plate'. [/quote]

thejerk
11-05-2004, 05:20 PM
You guy always say uninformed masses. I wonder, let's see who is uninformed. Did you hear about the pro Bush Iranian demonstrations? Alota people don't like living in dictatorships and you people talk about innocents being killed, talk about clueless. You tell me one country with elections that weren't won in blood. I guess, a die hard belief in failed socialism makes one informed. I guess everyone swayed by Mioore was informed, aye. I say "aye" because I know many of you are partial to Canada. I guess a belief in the efficiency and goodness of government progams makes one informed, right. I guess listening to Stan Blathers and cbs news keeps one informed.

I think what you consider information, others would consider talking points. Do remember the phrase "useful idiots" it was used by a soviet communist to describe the left wing in the west. It described people advocating many of the same ideas you still hold today.

don knot
11-06-2004, 11:21 AM
AAAA,
Again, I understand that the guy has a lot of money. The important thing to remember here is that money cannot compensate for the weakest presidential candidate ever.

I will always support the bringing down of evil regimes to better help the lives of innocent people everywhere. Your comment about resources to benefit our country is of course more left-wing propoganda, and you saw how well that benefited you on Tuesday :)

You or I can ONLY speculate as to what Skerry may or might not have done to protect out country. What we know FOR SURE is that his record on defense indicates that he would not have. Need i go into his record again :) Your posts and re-buttals are all based on speculation and some propoganda. Facts would be needed (i.e. a record) to make your arguments a little more credible. What are you going to do next, tell me to check Kerry's web-site to check out his plan :)
THIS VICTORY JUST KEEPS GETTING BETTER AND BETTER EVERYDAY!

Bhagi Katbamna
11-06-2004, 02:25 PM
I love Michael Moore, he says that the American People are stupid and easily fooled and then gets rich doing just that.

Nosoupforyou
11-06-2004, 10:50 PM
" Bush won't be able to pack the Supreme Court with right-wing ideologues. Did I say "if the Democrats do their job?" Um, maybe better to scratch this one. "

hmm calling other people ideologues, the hypocrisy is killing me

" Admit it: We like the Bush twins and we don't want them to go away."

well, can't argue with that

"At the state legislative level, Democrats picked up a net of at least 3 chambers in Tuesday's elections. Of the 98 partisan-controlled state legislative chambers (house/assembly and senate), Democrats went into the 2004 elections in control of 44 chambers, Republicans controlled 53 chambers, and 1 chamber was tied. After Tuesday, Democrats now control 47 chambers, Republicans control 49 chambers, 1 chamber is tied and 1 chamber (Montana House) is still undecided"

k now he's just trying to find a rather weak upside in a devastating blow to the democrats

"Bush's victory was the NARROWEST win for a sitting president since Woodrow Wilson in 1916."

Ultimately, I fail to see how this is relevant

I honestly hate Michael Moore. I think he is the exact opposite of what this country needs. Democrats and Republicans alike have been vowing to promote unity (whether this happens remains to be seen), yet more still feels the need to divide this country further. Is he representative of the freedoms we have in this country? Sure he is. Are his films witty and humorous at times? Yes. But at the end of the day does he really do anything to solve the problems that plague this country? No, he knowingly worsens them. It is ideologues like him that we need to rid our government of and instead replace radicals on both sides with moderates who are willing to compromise. People like McCain, Obama, Schwarzenegger, are the people that will probably ultimately unite us the most, not extremist deush bags like Moore, Hillary, T. Kennedy, Buchanan, Limbaugh, etc.

thejerk
11-07-2004, 10:59 AM
The last thing we need is unity. Unity is un-american. If we wanted unity, we'd have one party. While I agree that the Noame Chompskyites like Moore suck, he is good for a laugh. Moore is stupid enough to proclaim what the left really believes.

Moderates are just people that are willing to do or say anything to be elected. They aren't willing to state their idea out loud. Just look at the way the media tried to hide Kerry's record. While government is about making compromise, moderates are willing to compromise anything. Most "moderates" swing to the left. The right has to be less ambiguous. The left must be ambiguous, that is why they need the courts. For example, we know where Limbaugh stands. Where does Blathers(tick tick tick) stand. The old media loved to pretend they were objective. Anybody paying attention knew better and now they've exposed themselves. Look at the NY Times.

One of the best things Bush has done is expose the left. Every time he mentions g*d, the the left goes into proxisms. They couldn't help themselves.

bismark
11-08-2004, 08:37 PM
"Most Americans think the World is about USA, and the USA is about the World" - a general and common view shared by many people worldwide.

Maybe that is why 51% of Americans LOVE Bush, while 99% of non-Americans HATED him. Hmmm?

But....anyway, who the #$!@ cares what them forrinerz theenk, cuz we Ahmericans iz 'bout the World! Everybody now....USA!....USA!....duh....USA!....

Thanatos
11-09-2004, 04:17 AM
From Barbra Streisand

IS THIS THE MAN YOU THINK WILL KEEP YOU SAFE?...

1. BUSH IGNORED THE ADVICE OF THE CLINTON ADMINISTRATION REGARDING THE URGENT THREAT OF AL QAEDA.

2. BUSH IGNORED THE HART-RUDMAN COMMISSION TERRORISM REPORT, WHICH OUTLINED A RANGE OF U.S. SECURITY REQUIREMENTS AND STRATEGIC OBJECTIVES.

3. BUSH FAILED TO GET OVER 100,000 HOURS OF VALUABLE TERRORISM-RELATED TAPINGS TRANSLATED BY LINGUISTS AT THE F.B.I, A FULL 3 YEARS AFTER 9/11. IN FACT, JOHN ASHCROFT REFUSED TO ENDORSE FBI REQUESTS FOR $58 MILLION FOR NEW COUNTERTERRORISM FIELD AGENTS, TRANSLATORS AND INTELLIGENCE ANALYSTS.

4. BUSH HELD NO FACE TO FACE MEETINGS WITH HIS TERRORISM CHIEF RICHARD CLARK AND NEITHER DID DICK CHENEY WHO WAS HEAD OF THE TERRORISM TASK FORCE.

5. BUSH CONTINUED HIS VACATION ON THE DAY HE RECEIVED A BRIEFING ABOUT THE IMPENDING ATTACK ON AMERICA.

6. KNOWING ABOUT THE IMPENDING HIJACKINGS, BUSH DID NOTHING TO BEEF UP AIRLINE SECURITY.

7. BUSH'S ATTORNEY GENERAL, JOHN ASHCROFT, TOLD THE ACTING DIRECTOR OF THE F.B.I. TO NOT TELL HIM ANYTHING MORE ABOUT TERRORISM.

8. BUSH WAS INACTIVE AND INDECISIVE FOR A FULL 7 MINUTES THE MORNING OF 9/11 WHEN INFORMED OF THE ATTACK ON THE WORLD TRADE CENTER. IF BUSH HAD ACTED QUICKLY AND INTELLIGENTLY, PERHAPS HE COULD HAVE GIVEN AN ORDER TO SHOOT DOWN THE PLANE HEADED TOWARD THE PENTAGON AND SAVED THE LIVES OF THOSE WHO WERE KILLED.

9. BUSH INVADED IRAQ WITH THE RATIONALE OF IMAGINARY WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION AND IGNORED THE REAL THREAT IN AFGHANNISTAN. NOW WE HAVE A TERRORIST BREEDING GROUND IN THE MIDDLE EAST AND OSAMA BIN LADEN AND ABU MUSSAB AL-ZARQAWI, A RADICAL ISLAMIC TERRORIST, RUNNING FREE.

10. BUSH IGNORED THE ADVICE OF THE GENERALS IN THE MILITARY WHO PROVED TO BE RIGHT.

11. BUSH OPPOSED THE CREATION OF A DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY.

12. BUSH OPPOSED THE CREATION OF THE 9/11 COMMISSION.

13. MORE THAN 3 YEARS LATER, OUR BORDERS, PORTS, AND NUCLEAR POWER PLANTS ARE STILL NOT SECURE.

14. BUSH SUPPRESSED THE RELEASE OF A CIA REPORT THAT LAYS BLAME UPON HIGH-LEVEL PEOPLE IN HIS ADMINISTRATION FOR NOT DOING THEIR JOBS IN A SATISFACTORY MANNER BEFORE 9/11.

15. BUSH FAILED TO SECURE NEARLY 400 TONS OF KNOWN, DEADLY EXPLOSIVES IN IRAQ, AND NOW THEY MAY FALL INTO THE WRONG HANDS TO BE USED TO BLOW UP AIRPLANES, LEVEL BUILDINGS AND DETONATE NUCLEAR WEAPONS.

IF BUSH HAD DONE ANY OF THESE THINGS, WE WOULD BE A SAFER MORE SECURE COUNTRY TODAY AND POSSIBLY COULD HAVE PREVENTED THE TRAGEDY OF 9/11.

bismark
11-09-2004, 05:16 AM
Save America. Vote Eminem for President. He is less destructive (and smarter) than George W. :twisted:

@wright
11-09-2004, 05:22 AM
Babara Streisand is a waste of flesh. She knows even less about politics than Jennifer Anniston.

Rickson
11-09-2004, 06:30 AM
Mojo and I don't agree on many things, but we both agree that GW Bush is bad for the USA.

Gatsby007
11-09-2004, 02:35 PM
Awright,
I herd StreisHOUND saying that President Bush knew about the 9/11 attacks in advance and was probably communicating w/ UBL before-hand. Of course that is the craziest thing I have ever herd. I know the majority of decent liberals will agree that even though they don't like the President that he is Hell-Bent on killing terrorists and will do ANYTHING to protect America.
The Democratic party has been High-Jacked by these crazy A SS
extremist. As an American I hope they can clean these idiots up and get them out of the for-front of their party, but as a Republican I hope they don't :)

thejerk
11-10-2004, 03:24 PM
Thanatos, why did the Bush administration have to deal with OBL anyway? I didn't know New York was the first shot they fired at us. Didn't they openly declare war on us before Bush?

AAAA
11-10-2004, 06:12 PM
Thanatos, why did the Bush administration have to deal with OBL anyway? I didn't know New York was the first shot they fired at us. Didn't they openly declare war on us before Bush?

If you can't 'prove' that with an official Bush-approved source, some of the Bush supporters around here will label your point pure speculation.

@wright
11-11-2004, 06:39 AM
I agree with you, Gatsby. As long as Jennifer Anniston, Jon Bon Jovi, THe BOSS, and others are the face of the party, we have nothing to worry about. It's almost akin to the blind leading the seeing.

thejerk
11-11-2004, 08:28 PM
@WRIGHT, love that dog thing.

aaaa, I don't get it. What do you mean official? Is the CIA, state department, or any other american newspaper not enough.

mlee2
11-11-2004, 09:07 PM
To Bush's credit, his administration actually gone through the trouble to negotiate with the Taliban to get rid of all their terrorists before they attacked. But of course that manipulator of facts (Michael Moore) turned it into an unnecessary conspiracy.

Bush has screwed up since but as many have said before, Moore has lost a lot of credibility as an angry drunk pulling conspiracies out of his hat left and right.

@wright
11-12-2004, 05:22 AM
thejerk, that's a jack handey deep thought, i love those! I can read them on internet sites and laugh my @ss off!