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joe sch
11-06-2004, 06:54 PM
Safin has been playing the kind of outstanding tennis that everyone expected since he slamed. More importantly, he is keeping control of his mental game. Obviously coach Peter Lundgren diserves alot of credit. There was soo much credit dumped on Gilbert during Roddicks run but does not seem to be much for Lundgren yet, guess Safin will have to win another slam ...

Power Game
11-06-2004, 07:02 PM
I agree, Safin has been keeping his emotions in check with good results, thanks to peter....

pound cat
11-07-2004, 02:58 AM
Of course there hasn't been much credt given to Peter because he's a quiet, unassuming person as opposed to "In Your Face" gilbert who makes himself hard to ignore. Safin has repeatedly said in interviews how much Peter is helping him with the mental aspct of his game.
Safin has a team of Peter, Walt Landers, and a few loyals (who most people wouldn't even know who they are) who give him a lot of support.

joe sch
11-07-2004, 02:16 PM
Of course there hasn't been much credt given to Peter because he's a quiet, unassuming person as opposed to "In Your Face" gilbert who makes himself hard to ignore. Safin has repeatedly said in interviews how much Peter is helping him with the mental aspct of his game.
Safin has a team of Peter, Walt Landers, and a few loyals (who most people wouldn't even know who they are) who give him a lot of support.
I totally agree with you pound cat !
Can you tell all of us who and what Walt Landers provides to team Safin ?
I am interested in these tennis corporations and they dont get thier proper visability sorta like everyone always talking about Bill Gates of micro$oft but none of the other significant others. Its also interesting that before the big $$$ in 10s none of the players had private coaches, trainers and the rest of the corporation people and Federer has now eliminated his coach while improving his bottom line. He is obviously and exceptional case.

Max G.
11-07-2004, 02:24 PM
Walt Landers is Marat's fitness trainer.

pound cat
11-07-2004, 02:49 PM
Federer does have a "coach" in the same respect that Safin has a coach. Mirka provides the same mental/moral support as Peter Lundgren , and both guys have loyal friends who often travel with them. Walt is Safin's masseur, and Safin has an Israeli fitness trainer named Koslovski? who may be one of the mystery people sitting in Safin's box. Lundgren says he does not coach Safin in tennis technique.

joe sch
11-07-2004, 03:57 PM
I beleive many of the ATP top coaches dont concentrate on much technique with thier players but rather strategy and mental. Who would want Brad Gilbert to teach them technique :lol:

perfmode
11-07-2004, 04:03 PM
I beleive many of the ATP top coaches dont concentrate on much technique with thier players but rather strategy and mental. Who would want Brad Gilbert to teach them technique :lol:

Lol, seriously.

VictorS.
11-07-2004, 07:59 PM
I watched a little bit of this match (Safin-Stepanek) tape delayed and although Safin pulled thru this match....it doesn't appear like he's totally gotten over his tempermental mood swings just yet. Throughout the match he was smashing balls into the stands and throwing his racket.

I dunno if Safin will ever totally cool down but perhaps Lundgren can teach him to channel his energy properly.

silent bob
11-07-2004, 09:35 PM
If Lundgren really said that he doesn't coach Safin on technique then he is telling fibs. He was clearly coaching Safin on technique DURING the final at Paris. Specifically, he was caught on camera more than once telling Safin to toss the ball higher and to the right. He used hand signals as well, the points of which were not as clear. (Keep your feet moving, maybe?)

Nevertheless, I'm impressed with the Safin/Lundgren team. Safin has definitely improved. And, while he still blows up from time to time, he now gets back on track for the next point. After all, it's fine to vent if you then immediately put it behind you.

Finally, Safin is not one to keep a coach on the payroll if he is not doing a lot of good. I think people were dismissive of Lundgren when Roger did so well without him. Now, I personally would put him on top as far as coaching status goes, followed by Cahill and then Gilbert.

pound cat
11-08-2004, 04:45 AM
Safin played mediocre tennis in the final, and he just wanted to finish it ASAP. He had just won 14 matches in a row & he said in his interview that all he wanted to do was go home and sleep in his own bed. Safin still loses his temper and tosses a racket. But what he doesn't do anymore is let his anger roll over into the next point, unless it's something serious like being warned by the Italian ump for swearing in Russian when he had no clue what Safin was saying LOL) He lost bp opportunity in that game but regained his composure for the next game.

david aames
11-08-2004, 09:09 AM
I don't know why it comes off as 'all I want to do is go home and sleep with my own girlfriend'...

he said in his interview that all he wanted to do was go home and sleep in his own bed.

perfmode
11-08-2004, 01:05 PM
I don't know why it comes off as 'all I want to do is go home and sleep with my own girlfriend'...

he said in his interview that all he wanted to do was go home and sleep in his own bed.

girlfriends*

(plural)

Chanchai
11-08-2004, 02:10 PM
Yeah, I guess little tips such as "move those feet" qualify for technique coaching. But I think Lundgren's focus isn't the technique--I really don't think his most noteworthy clients had huge problems with their technique either.

I do think Lundgren has helped. But also, Marat tends to play very well in the Fall so it's tough for me to jump up and say Marat is back or living up to his potential. But I'm glad he's playing well. I do hope that next year will be a huge year for him.

On Lundgren again, good to see that he's still working with Marat (I was worried that Marat would have jacked up the coach turnover ratio again).

-Chanchai

Vlad
11-08-2004, 02:22 PM
I believe that Peter does coach Marat some new things to do on the court. First of all, his second serve changed a lot for the better and I first noticed that in his match vs. Novak in Toronto. Peter is trying to make Marat's forehand to be more of a weapon just like his backhand. Marat always has some trouble with forehand (timing could be off, not enough wrist accel., etc.) I mean it is not his biggest weaknesses but one of his weaker shots, especially when he is not playing well.
Another thing i noticed is that he slices his backhand more to change pace. Opponents get used to his bombs off the backhand and could use it against him.
On his first serve, I think he is changing the ball toss a little bit. He wants to move it to the right, so his serve will be more consistent.
Those things i have noticed...