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uscstudent13
10-01-2007, 11:38 AM
i move extremely well although you can't really see that in this video, but i was wondering about my strokes. sorry about the snoop dogg music, i didn't make the video


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3wT7Msya-fw

smoothtennis
10-01-2007, 01:12 PM
Hmmm....it's so jumpy, the camera that is, I really can't tell whats going on, although it seems to look pretty decent.

uscstudent13
10-01-2007, 02:42 PM
yeah i know, my fault, thats what happens when you send a video from ur phone straight to youtube

volusiano
10-01-2007, 03:13 PM
Looks like you have nice stroke. And you do move well like you said.

One thing that just seems to jump out at me on the video for some reason are the shoes. What brand/model are they? They seem to be big for some reason, but maybe that's just my perception.

uscstudent13
10-01-2007, 09:29 PM
Looks like you have nice stroke. And you do move well like you said.

One thing that just seems to jump out at me on the video for some reason are the shoes. What brand/model are they? They seem to be big for some reason, but maybe that's just my perception.


they are the Air Max Breathe Cage or the "nadal shoes" as some would say. And thats odd that you would say that because my feet are slightly disproportionate to my frame but they are not big fitting on me at all, in fact I like my shoes to be somewhat tight, and they are.

junbumkim
10-01-2007, 09:39 PM
looks pretty good.
Except, what kind of depth do you get on your forehand?
You acceleration and timing seems to be great, but followthrough seems a little limited. Maybe i will try to have you extend more forward with swing.

volusiano
10-02-2007, 08:07 AM
they are the Air Max Breathe Cage or the "nadal shoes" as some would say. And thats odd that you would say that because my feet are slightly disproportionate to my frame but they are not big fitting on me at all, in fact I like my shoes to be somewhat tight, and they are.

OK, they probably stand out also just because they're nice and white. I like how you hit high balls with your 1hbh. Very nice form.

habib
10-02-2007, 10:47 AM
Your forehand seems to be all arm. On that subject, your arm looks remarkably Gumby-like, the way it seems to flex like a rubber band. But in general, doesn't look like you're getting much leg drive into the forehand - or the backhand, for that matter. Stroke mechanics on the backhand side look pretty good, just need to step into the ball more.

Uthree
10-02-2007, 05:27 PM
Does your neck feel restricted or tense? If so you you may be holding the eyes at the contact position too long.

TheShaun
10-02-2007, 06:36 PM
best part of the video is that it took me back to 1994 :)

uscstudent13
10-02-2007, 10:10 PM
best part of the video is that it took me back to 1994 :)

i hear that, Cali baby, thats how we do out here yadadamean!?

uscstudent13
10-02-2007, 10:14 PM
Your forehand seems to be all arm. On that subject, your arm looks remarkably Gumby-like, the way it seems to flex like a rubber band. But in general, doesn't look like you're getting much leg drive into the forehand - or the backhand, for that matter. Stroke mechanics on the backhand side look pretty good, just need to step into the ball more.



yes, that cameraphone video **** was taken when I was just tanking it towards the end of my practice, but my backhand is my better shot. I truly heed your advice on the leg power, and my forehand does wrap and move oddly on my forehand, i just noticed that. funny how you need another person's perspective to truly see. the true voyage of discovery lies not in finding new lands but in seeing with new eyes

NamRanger
10-03-2007, 06:33 AM
Lots of work can be done on your forehand. You don't drive enough with your body. Rather you utilize the flexibility of your arm to drive through the ball. You also have some unnecessary elbow movement which could result in tennis elbow later on.


It could be just that you are warming up, but if that's the type of forehand you use in a match, that could be detremental to your arm health, especially if you go toe to toe with someone with a big forehand.


Try driving by utilizing a good shoulder turn and don't move the arm. The forehand is driven by shoulder/hip rotation, not the arm. The arm rather just stablizes the racquet into one place while the rest of the body does the work.

habib
10-03-2007, 02:42 PM
yes, that cameraphone video **** was taken when I was just tanking it towards the end of my practice, but my backhand is my better shot. I truly heed your advice on the leg power, and my forehand does wrap and move oddly on my forehand, i just noticed that. funny how you need another person's perspective to truly see. the true voyage of discovery lies not in finding new lands but in seeing with new eyes

I have no issue with how your forehand moves or wraps around you - as far as I'm concerned, that gumby-like appearance is indicative of immense racquet speed on both your forehand and backhand, and the whip-like motion is reminiscent of Federer. However, you should work on getting your body and legs behind and into the shot. On both sides, you're basically generating power through shoulder rotation. You should be getting it from your legs and hips, first.

uscstudent13
10-03-2007, 07:06 PM
I have no issue with how your forehand moves or wraps around you - as far as I'm concerned, that gumby-like appearance is indicative of immense racquet speed on both your forehand and backhand, and the whip-like motion is reminiscent of Federer. However, you should work on getting your body and legs behind and into the shot. On both sides, you're basically generating power through shoulder rotation. You should be getting it from your legs and hips, first.

fair enough, lazy footwork is commensurate of such poor body positioning i would assume, and it's a shame that as well as i can move i don't positioin myself well enough. oh well, thanks for the advice, i will definately work on it

tricky
10-03-2007, 07:30 PM
Just some random notes from the clip.

1) It looks like you got a push-style stroke for the FH, and it's really solid. Were you coached this stroke? You may want to experiment with closing your armpit up a little in your takeback. This will abbreviate your backswing and increase your racquet speed.

2) It looks like you're using a classic-style 1H BH, but you're using a "C"-style backswing. That's a mismatch that'll prevent you from really using your legs to really drive the shot. More effect is to using a pendulum or smile/U pattern. You'll open up less in the stroke.

BeHappy
10-03-2007, 07:41 PM
Just some random notes from the clip.

1) It looks like you got a push-style stroke for the FH, and it's really solid. Were you coached this stroke? You may want to experiment with closing your armpit up a little in your takeback. This will abbreviate your backswing and increase your racquet speed.

2) It looks like you're using a classic-style 1H BH, but you're using a "C"-style backswing. That's a mismatch that'll prevent you from really using your legs to really drive the shot. More effect is to using a pendulum or smile/U pattern. You'll open up less in the stroke.



Why don't you make a thread where you define all these terms that you use so freely so we know exactly what you're talking about?

Do you really expect this guy to understand your jargon?

When yu make this thread use pictures from google images and make the url your sig.

tricky
10-03-2007, 08:20 PM
Sure, or I could tell him to avoid using tranverse abduction with the lateral deltoid and infraspinatus in his backhand, which is what the high-to-low takeback (or C-style backswing) will accomplish. It's all good.

Don't worry. Be Happy, Gorilla! :D

z-money
10-03-2007, 09:08 PM
I have no issue with how your forehand moves or wraps around you - as far as I'm concerned, that gumby-like appearance is indicative of immense racquet speed on both your forehand and backhand, and the whip-like motion is reminiscent of Federer. However, you should work on getting your body and legs behind and into the shot. On both sides, you're basically generating power through shoulder rotation. You should be getting it from your legs and hips, first.

Well said! and 100% on the nose

habib
10-04-2007, 01:15 PM
fair enough, lazy footwork is commensurate of such poor body positioning i would assume, and it's a shame that as well as i can move i don't positioin myself well enough. oh well, thanks for the advice, i will definately work on it

It's not a case of lazy footwork, because to tell you the truth, it's hard to tell from that video what your footwork is like. You just need to bend your knees more, turn your hips more, and use your legs and hips to power into the shot.

uscstudent13
10-04-2007, 10:53 PM
Sure, or I could tell him to avoid using tranverse abduction with the lateral deltoid and infraspinatus in his backhand, which is what the high-to-low takeback (or C-style backswing) will accomplish. It's all good.

Don't worry. Be Happy, Gorilla! :D


okay now i get it