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Ronny
10-14-2007, 06:04 AM
Hey, I'm thinking of getting a reel of Syn Gut and Poly to stock up for the long run right now seeing that the AUD is peaking:D . The problem is I don't know which ones to get. For syn guts, I have a list of Gosen OG Sheep Micro, Wilson Extreme Syn Gut, Prince Syn Gut Multi, Prince Syn Gut Original/Duraflex, Pro Supex Syn Gut, Babolat Attraction and Attraction Power. For the polys, I'm thinking of, Pro Hurricane Tour, Big Ace, Touch Turbo, Competition, Klip K-Boom, Klip Hardcore, Pro Line 1/2, Red Code, Cyberflash, Pro Hurricane, Tecnifibre Spinfire, Polystar Energy, Luxilon BB Alu Power(both rough and normal) and Gosen Polylon. I know those are pretty long lists but I just want to be sure about my final decisions. I'm going to be hybriding them together with the mains having the poly and the crosses having the syn gut. Can anyone who can help me with this decision or anyone that has any experiences with these strings, please reply to this thread.

Thanks.

Stan
10-14-2007, 06:17 AM
IMO the best copolymer currently available is the Weiss Silverstring. The Scorpion is also very lively if you are looking for a little additional zip.

PROTENNIS63
10-14-2007, 06:29 AM
From the list you have, I would get gosen og sheep micro and big ace as those seem to be the most popular right now.

Bundey
10-14-2007, 07:50 AM
The only one of these that I have tried is the Gosen OG sheep micro. I really liked that a lot, so get it.

lilxjohnyy
10-14-2007, 08:00 AM
i chose gosen and cyberflash for my self

LPShanet
10-14-2007, 11:04 AM
Hey, I'm thinking of getting a reel of Syn Gut and Poly to stock up for the long run right now seeing that the AUD is peaking:D . The problem is I don't know which ones to get. For syn guts, I have a list of Gosen OG Sheep Micro, Wilson Extreme Syn Gut, Prince Syn Gut Multi, Prince Syn Gut Original/Duraflex, Pro Supex Syn Gut, Babolat Attraction and Attraction Power. For the polys, I'm thinking of, Pro Hurricane Tour, Big Ace, Touch Turbo, Competition, Klip K-Boom, Klip Hardcore, Pro Line 1/2, Red Code, Cyberflash, Pro Hurricane, Tecnifibre Spinfire, Polystar Energy, Luxilon BB Alu Power(both rough and normal) and Gosen Polylon. I know those are pretty long lists but I just want to be sure about my final decisions. I'm going to be hybriding them together with the mains having the poly and the crosses having the syn gut. Can anyone who can help me with this decision or anyone that has any experiences with these strings, please reply to this thread.

Thanks.

I've played all of the strings on your list, and I'd go with Babolat Attraction (NOT Attraction Power, which is very different) followed by Gosen OG Sheep among the synthetic guts. Among the polys, I still like Luxilon BB Alu Power the best, although Touch Turbo, Pro Hurricane and Red Code aren't bad. Again, note that even though they have similar names, Pro Hurricane and Pro Hurricane Tour play quite differently.

Ronny
10-14-2007, 08:38 PM
I've played all of the strings on your list, and I'd go with Babolat Attraction (NOT Attraction Power, which is very different) followed by Gosen OG Sheep among the synthetic guts. Among the polys, I still like Luxilon BB Alu Power the best, although Touch Turbo, Pro Hurricane and Red Code aren't bad. Again, note that even though they have similar names, Pro Hurricane and Pro Hurricane Tour play quite differently.

Did you play with them in hybrids or full set-ups?

Ronny
10-14-2007, 08:43 PM
I have also heard that Attraction has pretty bad durability and tension stability. Is that true? Also, which Gosen syn gut would you recommend? Gosen OG Sheep Micro Super or Gosen OG Sheep JC or just regular Gosen OG Sheep Micro? Which gauge would you recommend too?

shojun25
10-14-2007, 09:05 PM
Gosen OG Sheep Micro, Wilson Extreme Syn Gut, Prince Syn Gut Multi, Prince Syn Gut Original/Duraflex, Pro Supex Syn Gut, Babolat Attraction and Attraction Power.

Do not get Wilson Extreme and both Babolat Attraction (I haven't played with Attraction Power, but it is a rip off for that price). They lose tension way too fast. I have not tried Pro Supex Syn gut, so I cannot help you out there. If you are looking for an average string that is cheap, get OG Micro; it doesn't have any special characteristics, except that it is a low powered syn gut. I would recommend getting Prince Multi if you want more power, and an enhanced feel when you are hybriding it (thus, look at my set up). I would rather choose Prince Original than Duraflex because of the feel; textured strings are not for me.

Pro Hurricane Tour, Big Ace, Touch Turbo, Competition, Klip K-Boom, Klip Hardcore, Pro Line 1/2, Red Code, Cyberflash, Pro Hurricane, Tecnifibre Spinfire, Polystar Energy, Luxilon BB Alu Power(both rough and normal) and Gosen Polylon.

I have not tried Klip K-boom and Hardcore, Big Ace (however, I have heard that Big Ace is a great polyester), Technifibre Spinfire, Pro Line I, and Polystar Energy. Both Pro Hurricanes have a softer feel than regular polys; the only difference with the two is that the Tour version loses more tenion than the original (IMO). Touch Turbo is great the first week, but it just dies after that; I do not recommend getting this string. Competition, Red Code, ALU Rough, and Polylon are pretty good polys with that original stiff poly feel. I do not recommend getting Polylon because it looses tension way too fast. Pro Line II is very comfortable in the arm and it has great feel. ALU Power is a power string fitted for baseliners. Cyberflash is my favorite string so far - it has great feel, tension maintenance, and control; it is also low powered so I can whack the ball as hard as I can (not literal).


Overall, If you have a low-budget, get both Gosen in reels. If you have a medium-budget, get the Prince strings for syn gut, and Cyberflash and Big Ace for polys. If you have a high-budget, just get Natural Gut and a poly of your choice ;)

Ronny
10-14-2007, 10:00 PM
I'm thinking right now of a hybrid with either Pro Hurricane or Pro Hurricane Tour in the mains with Attraction or Conquest in the crosses. Do you think that it'll be a good set-up?

rum02
10-14-2007, 11:14 PM
I was sorta in the same situation as you ronny, Australian dollar peaking and i wanted to get a poly and synthetic gut reel while I could cheaply. The advise I would give you is try a string in a set before you by the reel. Just because everyone on this forum recommends a certain string, it doesn't mean that you will like it. I eventually opted for a reel of spinfire and a reel of gosen og micro, both in 17 gauge. Polys i've tried: Cyberflash, Sppp, pro hurricane and none were significantly better than spinfire. nylons I've tried: gosen og sheep, prince duraflex. og wins.
ps. Did you end up stringing your racquet with redcode?

Ronny
10-14-2007, 11:32 PM
I was sorta in the same situation as you ronny, Australian dollar peaking and i wanted to get a poly and synthetic gut reel while I could cheaply. The advise I would give you is try a string in a set before you by the reel. Just because everyone on this forum recommends a certain string, it doesn't mean that you will like it. I eventually opted for a reel of spinfire and a reel of gosen og micro, both in 17 gauge. Polys i've tried: Cyberflash, Sppp, pro hurricane and none were significantly better than spinfire. nylons I've tried: gosen og sheep, prince duraflex. og wins.
ps. Did you end up stringing your racquet with redcode?

Yeah....long story short, my mum accidentally took the wrong strings to the stringer but its doing pretty well

Ronny
10-14-2007, 11:48 PM
I was sorta in the same situation as you ronny, Australian dollar peaking and i wanted to get a poly and synthetic gut reel while I could cheaply. The advise I would give you is try a string in a set before you by the reel. Just because everyone on this forum recommends a certain string, it doesn't mean that you will like it. I eventually opted for a reel of spinfire and a reel of gosen og micro, both in 17 gauge. Polys i've tried: Cyberflash, Sppp, pro hurricane and none were significantly better than spinfire. nylons I've tried: gosen og sheep, prince duraflex. og wins.
ps. Did you end up stringing your racquet with redcode?

Also, what racquet do you have??

downdaline
10-14-2007, 11:54 PM
I'm thinking right now of a hybrid with either Pro Hurricane or Pro Hurricane Tour in the mains with Attraction or Conquest in the crosses. Do you think that it'll be a good set-up?

Pro hurricane x Attraction = Softer feel

Pro hurricane tour x Conquest = Stiffer feel

Pro Hurricane from my experience is much softer than the tour version, so i'd recommend that. Attraction doesnt last long, especially in terms of tension maintenance, so i'd go with Conquest. Conquest isnt exactly any better than Attraction, but at least it's cheaper with similar qualities.

Also, i've found that if using Pro hurricane Tour in the mains seems to eat into softer crosses (eg. Attraction, XCel Premium), so beware.

Ronny
10-15-2007, 12:02 AM
Okay, then what would you chose instead of Attraction? Xcel? OG Sheep?

rum02
10-15-2007, 12:20 AM
Also, what racquet do you have??
babolat pure storm (not the new model, the one before that) at the moment. xcel premium, gosen sheep, biphase would all soften up the stringbed well. with the og sheep @ $30 a reel you can't go wrong. I've actually tried both xcel premium and biphase in hybrids and I actually prefer the way cheaper gosen sheep. From my experience with hybrids getting strings that complement each other and not stringing the poly too high are the best ways to find your perfect string job. For instance, a tried cyberflash mains 56lbs and gosen og crosses 58lbs way too soft for me, so unless you are specifically trying to achieve softness/stiffness/power try to achieve a balance in your string properties.

downdaline
10-15-2007, 12:23 AM
Okay, then what would you chose instead of Attraction? Xcel? OG Sheep?

I'd go for OG Sheep 16. Lasts longer than Attraction or XCel.

Ronny
10-15-2007, 12:42 AM
Thanks, I'll most likely go for the Gosen syn gut but which one should I buy? Super JC 16/17? Or just normal OG Sheep 16/17?

downdaline
10-15-2007, 12:44 AM
The normal OG Sheep is good enough. I honestly cant tell much of a difference between Sheep and JC (hehe, really).

Ronny
10-15-2007, 12:48 AM
with the og sheep @ $30 a reel you can't go wrong.

Yeah, I can get a reel of OG Sheep for $33.50AUD and I normally pay $40AUD just for 1 RacquetFUEL string job.

rum02
10-15-2007, 06:15 AM
Yeah, I can get a reel of OG Sheep for $33.50AUD and I normally pay $40AUD just for 1 RacquetFUEL string job.

yeah, labor is $20 and the cheapest strings like $20 where I live. If i get a string machine, I'll be stringing racquets for next to nothing.

Ronny
10-15-2007, 08:44 AM
I was sorta in the same situation as you ronny, Australian dollar peaking and i wanted to get a poly and synthetic gut reel while I could cheaply. The advise I would give you is try a string in a set before you by the reel. Just because everyone on this forum recommends a certain string, it doesn't mean that you will like it. I eventually opted for a reel of spinfire and a reel of gosen og micro, both in 17 gauge. Polys i've tried: Cyberflash, Sppp, pro hurricane and none were significantly better than spinfire. nylons I've tried: gosen og sheep, prince duraflex. og wins.
ps. Did you end up stringing your racquet with redcode?

What characteristics of Spinfire attracted you to it and what did you think of Pro Hurricane and Cyberflash?

LPShanet
10-15-2007, 09:54 AM
Did you play with them in hybrids or full set-ups?

I've played with all of them both ways, actually. Why? Generally, I prefer to use natural gut in hybrids (just my personal taste), but have tried every possible combination of the strings mentioned (full setups, as well as hybrids as both mains and crosses). Which I'd recommend for each application depends on your playing style, level and how often you break strings.

LPShanet
10-15-2007, 09:59 AM
I have also heard that Attraction has pretty bad durability and tension stability. Is that true? Also, which Gosen syn gut would you recommend? Gosen OG Sheep Micro Super or Gosen OG Sheep JC or just regular Gosen OG Sheep Micro? Which gauge would you recommend too?

I haven't found any difference in tension stability with Attraction compared to any other string in its same category. It's a solid, fairly crisp synthetic gut that seems to appeal to those who like things in the NXT/NRG/Live Wire category, but with a little added stiffness/crispness over the softest multifilaments. I like the OG Sheep JC, but if you're being totally technical, it's really the same string as the OG Sheep Micro Super, they just used to have finer controls over the tolerances and materials. The differences are negligible in terms of actual play, but the JC is probably a bit better made and more consistent. I'd say the 16 gauge makes the most sense in that string, since thinner breaks more easily, and thicker will give you less feel and bite.

LPShanet
10-15-2007, 10:01 AM
I have also heard that Attraction has pretty bad durability and tension stability. Is that true? Also, which Gosen syn gut would you recommend? Gosen OG Sheep Micro Super or Gosen OG Sheep JC or just regular Gosen OG Sheep Micro? Which gauge would you recommend too?

As for durability, I'd also say it's comparable to others in its class. It doesn't last forever, but it's not any worse, dollar for dollar, than others of the same construction/type.

LPShanet
10-15-2007, 10:03 AM
I'm thinking right now of a hybrid with either Pro Hurricane or Pro Hurricane Tour in the mains with Attraction or Conquest in the crosses. Do you think that it'll be a good set-up?

That's a decent setup. It'll play stiffer/crisper than pure Attraction or Conquest, if you like that. What level player are you, and what's your playing style? Do you break a lot of strings?

rum02
10-15-2007, 03:51 PM
What characteristics of Spinfire attracted you to it and what did you think of Pro Hurricane and Cyberflash?

It's hard to put my finger exactly in on what I like about it. It is a nice and crisp poly, without being to stiff and it also has a decent amount of power (this is with a hybrid, I haven't tried a full job yet) and also I liked the feel of it, I felt I got more "feedback" from the strings with this poly. from what I've tried, I'd rate the polys in this order
1. pro hurricane
2. spinfire
3. cyberflash
4. SPPP
Cyberflash for me lacked a bit of feel and power. Pro hurricane from memory was my favourite, being soft yet lively and responsive (although this was with xcel premium in the crosses as opposed to gosen sheep with the rest).

Ronny
10-15-2007, 09:36 PM
That's a decent setup. It'll play stiffer/crisper than pure Attraction or Conquest, if you like that. What level player are you, and what's your playing style? Do you break a lot of strings?

It's kinda hard to tell my playing level since I'm in Australia but my playing style is a aggressive baseliner who likes to attack the net and has an all court game. I don't break a lot of strings seeing that I'm using poly but I break syn gut(prince syn gut w/duraflex) in about 2-3+ weeks.

Ronny
10-15-2007, 09:38 PM
I've played with all of them both ways, actually. Why? Generally, I prefer to use natural gut in hybrids (just my personal taste), but have tried every possible combination of the strings mentioned (full setups, as well as hybrids as both mains and crosses). Which I'd recommend for each application depends on your playing style, level and how often you break strings.

Which hybrid would you recommend? Out of all the strings I listed.

LPShanet
10-15-2007, 11:29 PM
Which hybrid would you recommend? Out of all the strings I listed.

That depends on what you're trying to achieve compared to your current string setup. Are you looking for more power, more control, more spin, more durability? Usually you can't have all, so you favor certain qualities. Also, what's your current setup?

As for level, are you playing tournaments (e.g. for rankings, etc.)? Have you played college or school tennis? Even in Australia, people are using the NTRP system now somewhat. You can check that and give a rough level idea.

Ronny
10-16-2007, 12:40 AM
That depends on what you're trying to achieve compared to your current string setup. Are you looking for more power, more control, more spin, more durability? Usually you can't have all, so you favor certain qualities. Also, what's your current setup?

As for level, are you playing tournaments (e.g. for rankings, etc.)? Have you played college or school tennis? Even in Australia, people are using the NTRP system now somewhat. You can check that and give a rough level idea.

Yeah, I'm playing tournaments and for school. I posted a vid of myself from January last year and people said that I was a 3.0-3.5ntrp so I guess I'm now around the 4.0 level. I'm currently using full Red Code. I want a mixture of power, control and durability. I would like to have spin but wouldn't mind not having it.

Field
10-16-2007, 01:25 AM
You might want to try the combo Big Ace / Spiral Flex. Right now I'm playing this hybrid and so far I like it. Going to give other hybrids (PS Matrix Hybrid, SPP Pure / Spiral Flex and Cyber Flash / Spiral Flex) in the near future a test drive as well.
But as other already stated, at the end it's up to you :)

Field

sunflowerhx
10-16-2007, 06:04 AM
I am using Big Banger Original with Babolat XCel Premium.
Very nice setup.

My stringer says you should use a high end syn gut with poly to gain back some comfort.

LPShanet
10-16-2007, 12:34 PM
Yeah, I'm playing tournaments and for school. I posted a vid of myself from January last year and people said that I was a 3.0-3.5ntrp so I guess I'm now around the 4.0 level. I'm currently using full Red Code. I want a mixture of power, control and durability. I would like to have spin but wouldn't mind not having it.

LOL...at least in lab terms, power and control are considered opposites, so asking for both is a little unrealistic. If you increase control, you may be able to swing harder, therefore adding more of your own power, but generally a string won't give you both. Alternately, if you increase the power of the string, that's usually associated with less control. The subjective feeling may be different, but that's what the lab says. Strings aren't magic, after all, they're a matter of physics combined with personal taste. Instead let's rephrase the question this way: What don't you like about your current setup? What is wrong (for you) with the full Pro Red Code?