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goosala
10-19-2007, 09:12 AM
How does the Forten play versus other syn guts? I am used to using PSGO and Gosen OG Micro and would like to try the Forten because of the good reviews.

rorschack
10-19-2007, 09:26 AM
I have both Gosen OG Micro 17 and Forten Sweet 17. From my experience, the Forten Sweet is softer but not as crispy as Micro. This is very unsubstantial since I use these guys in cross with natural gut/other strings.

Why don't you buy a couple set of Forten Sweet and do a control test of all 3. I was thinking about doing this for the Sweet and Micro because I am running out of syn gut. I am starting to like the Micro again since I am digging the crispiness.

LPShanet
10-19-2007, 05:21 PM
How does the Forten play versus other syn guts? I am used to using PSGO and Gosen OG Micro and would like to try the Forten because of the good reviews.

Forten Sweet plays softer than the others. It's pretty close to the Gosen OG Micro, but definitely softer than PSGO, which is fairly brittle.

Valjean
10-19-2007, 06:55 PM
With Forten Sweet I feel the same tension as with the POSG and not as much of an impact.

steve s
10-20-2007, 10:00 AM
Sweet feel softer to me. In the mains in breaks to fast. As a cross to polys and nat gut it is super.

Keifers
10-20-2007, 11:52 AM
How does the Forten play versus other syn guts? I am used to using PSGO and Gosen OG Micro and would like to try the Forten because of the good reviews.
I'm interested in this comparison also. Specifically, how would these two strings compare when used as crosses with higher-end multifilament mains such as NXT Tour or X-One or K-Gut Pro?

Which one would be the more "neutral" -- i.e., add (or subtract) the least to the performance and feel of the mains?

Thanks.

LPShanet
10-20-2007, 03:31 PM
I'm interested in this comparison also. Specifically, how would these two strings compare when used as crosses with higher-end multifilament mains such as NXT Tour or X-One or K-Gut Pro?

Which one would be the more "neutral" -- i.e., add (or subtract) the least to the performance and feel of the mains?

Thanks.

They'll all feel less expensive:) I don't think you'll see much difference, but the main thing is picking the one closest to the stiffness index of your main. The best way to do that is to use the USRSA string map/list, which gives lab stiffnessess of just about every string on the chart. Pick the one closest to your main. Since all three strings you ask about have different stiffnesses, the answer may be different for each.

Keifers
10-21-2007, 11:42 AM
They'll all feel less expensive:) I don't think you'll see much difference, but the main thing is picking the one closest to the stiffness index of your main. The best way to do that is to use the USRSA string map/list, which gives lab stiffnessess of just about every string on the chart. Pick the one closest to your main. Since all three strings you ask about have different stiffnesses, the answer may be different for each.
Thanks for your good advice, LPShanet. That makes a lot of sense.

Unfortunately, I don't have a USRSA membership and I assume one is required to access the string/map list. :-(

Btw, are the lab stiffnesses different for different gauges of the same string? Just curious...

gjoc
10-21-2007, 11:59 AM
They'll all feel less expensive:) I don't think you'll see much difference, but the main thing is picking the one closest to the stiffness index of your main. The best way to do that is to use the USRSA string map/list, which gives lab stiffnessess of just about every string on the chart. Pick the one closest to your main. Since all three strings you ask about have different stiffnesses, the answer may be different for each.

Thanks for your good advice, LPShanet. That makes a lot of sense.

Unfortunately, I don't have a USRSA membership and I assume one is required to access the string/map list. :-(

Btw, are the lab stiffnesses different for different gauges of the same string? Just curious...

I completely disagree with the previous comment/advice, but no USRSA membership is required to see the USRSA String Selector Map (http://www.racquetsportsindustry.com/articles/2006/09/string_selector_map_2006.html), and yes, the stiffnesses are different for different gauges of the same string.

Keifers
10-21-2007, 12:12 PM
I completely disagree with the previous comment/advice, but no USRSA membership is required to see the USRSA String Selector Map (http://www.racquetsportsindustry.com/articles/2006/09/string_selector_map_2006.html), and yes, the stiffnesses are different for different gauges of the same string.
gjoc,

Thanks for the link.

Can you say more about why you disagree? I would appreciate it.

I recall from a thread long ago that some don't consider the way the USRSA measures string stiffness to be very real-world realistic. Do you share that view?

Thanks.

gjoc
10-21-2007, 12:40 PM
gjoc,

Thanks for the link.

Can you say more about why you disagree? I would appreciate it.

I recall from a thread long ago that some don't consider the way the USRSA measures string stiffness to be very real-world realistic. Do you share that view?

Thanks.

I think it probably is realistic for what itís designed to simulate, returning 120 mph serves.

IMO, it loses some validity if you try to extrapolate those results down to returning 50, 60, or 70 mph balls/shots, since the material properties of plastics tend to be non-linear.

But some data is better than no data, and their results generally are much more right than wrong.

As far as hybrids, similarity of stiffness just isnít a criterion--if it were, youíd just use the same string (i.e., non-hybrid).

Typically, itís the difference in stiffness that drives the hybrid, such as balancing a stiff poly string with a soft gut string to get some of the benefits of each.

Keifers
10-21-2007, 01:23 PM
Thanks. I see I wasn't clear in my original request for help.

Basically, I want to use the more expensive multi in the mains as a way of saving money -- but still get most of the performance and feel of a full string job. In the case of Babolat Powergy, I have one set only and they don't sell it (in the US, at least) any more, so trying to make the set "go further."

gjoc
10-21-2007, 02:57 PM
Thanks. I see I wasn't clear in my original request for help.

Basically, I want to use the more expensive multi in the mains as a way of saving money -- but still get most of the performance and feel of a full string job. In the case of Babolat Powergy, I have one set only and they don't sell it (in the US, at least) any more, so trying to make the set "go further."

Sorry--I did misunderstand your question.

I’d say go with the Forten Sweet, because I think you’ll find it a bit softer than the others, but having said that, I don’t think there’s much difference among those.

If you really want to save money, you should consider a 660' reel of the Forten Nylon (http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/descpageACFORTEN-FNR16.html), which TW has for only $16.99.

goosala
10-22-2007, 07:38 AM
Yes, I have a reel of the Forten Nylon and it plays really soft the way I like it. I guess I will try the Sweet alongside the PSGO and Gosen OG since I have three frames. Thanks for the help.