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TW Staff
10-19-2007, 07:41 PM
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Chris, TW.

matt.jc
10-19-2007, 07:47 PM
Wooh haha already checked it out nice review:)

quest01
10-19-2007, 07:52 PM
It didnt do so well in the power department.

lilxjohnyy
10-19-2007, 07:58 PM
pretty nice ... wow it seems really low powered

snoopy
10-19-2007, 07:59 PM
sounds a bit like an rdx 500 mp

HeadPrestige
10-19-2007, 08:04 PM
i wonder if it's more underpowered than the wilson 6.0 95

Syfo-Dias
10-19-2007, 08:06 PM
Umm, I think you guys put the wrong tech specs at the bottom. Last I checked this racquet wasn't 11 oz. and 3 points HL.

Technical Specifications
Length 27 inches 69 centimeters
Head Size 98 square inches 632 square centimeters
Weight 11 ounces 312 grams
Balance Point 13.125 inches
33 centimeters 3pts Head Light
Construction 20-25mm
Composition Graphite / Fiberglass / Piezotec Fibres
String Pattern 16 Mains / 20 Crosses

Babolat RDC Ratings

Score

Grade
Flex Rating 60 Range: 0-100
Swing Weight 316 Range: 200-400

sw00sh
10-19-2007, 08:54 PM
Yeah, it sounds like some Head's racquet there with Piezotec fibres.

vsdtrek
10-19-2007, 09:06 PM
Interesting. For as many negative comments about the power and not real glowing ones for the serve, it still received an overall score of 79. I would have suspected that it might have been rated lower. I loved my RDX500 MPs except for serving and this one worries me that I might have the same troubles with it (operator error of course).

shojun25
10-19-2007, 09:08 PM
What suprised me is the 25mm hoop that they mentioned.

tbini87
10-19-2007, 09:18 PM
the stick looks great. sounds a little too low powered, but i guess a change in string set up could fix that.

Orly_Yarly
10-19-2007, 10:01 PM
really liked the 'lieks' and 'dislikes', gj tw.

Orly_Yarly
10-19-2007, 10:01 PM
ps why all the new racquets have white grip...

TW Staff
10-19-2007, 10:10 PM
Umm, I think you guys put the wrong tech specs at the bottom.

Thanks for the heads up. That info was indeed incorrect and has been pulled. We'll add the correct info on Monday.

Chris, TW.

Orly_Yarly
10-19-2007, 10:28 PM
To help us answer these questions and more, we filled up our water bottles, lathered on some sunscreen and set out on a 3-week playtest in our own vast and expansive outback - the tennis courts of San Luis Obispo, CA. So, in the words of the man himself, "Come On!" and read on.


Where do TW play testers play? I actually google-map'd but couldnt find any tennis courts nearby tw... :'-( nice courts btw


ps Avila Bay Athletic Club ?

TennisandMusic
10-20-2007, 12:27 AM
I really liked how this review actually showed two guys hitting at a time, as opposed to the angles from the previous reviews that would show a few strokes and you couldn't see where the ball was going...these are definitely getting better.

WhatItIs
10-20-2007, 01:04 AM
awesome review, you guys look so much better with these new angles. fantastical!

Leutonio
10-20-2007, 01:17 AM
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Chris, TW.

Thank You Chris and good job TW but i'm not totally agree with the testers and with what "likes and dislikes" reported :(

I have one of it and is impossible saying that have no power!!!
It's a powerful frame and has more power than 001 or 002.
I read that 2 testers usually plays with Pure Drive Roddick and is normal they said NO POWER about RQIS...
...then...i read that 2 tester plays with a FULL WESTERN GRIP and i normal too that they have heavy spin!!!

So...what kind of review is?

In my opinion you have to test this stick with 5 players that usually play with other Yonex and not with Babolat, then, they should be use the same grip to have a true review...

Just my 2 cents... ;)

akwila
10-20-2007, 02:20 AM
I agree. Coming from babolat you are not a good tester of the power level.

Some friends of mine using it totally disagree with this review!

Leutonio
10-20-2007, 02:43 AM
I agree. Coming from babolat you are not a good tester of the power level.

Some friends of mine using it totally disagree with this review!

Moltosugo docet! ;)

Peter Szucs
10-20-2007, 02:55 AM
No i do think that the review is very usefull actually. You have to read it in context, each of the reviewers will compare the racquet he tests to their main stick, i think thats normal. If you look at the scores at the end though i think you will find pretty objective scoring.

jace112
10-20-2007, 02:55 AM
really liked the 'likes' and 'dislikes', gj tw.
Yes, that's a fair comment. Thanks TW for writing this honnest review. But next time, please choose some guys that are really used to control sticks.

0d1n
10-20-2007, 03:35 AM
Thank You Chris and good job TW but i'm not totally agree with the testers and with what "likes and dislikes" reported :(

I have one of it and is impossible saying that have no power!!!
It's a powerful frame and has more power than 001 or 002.
I read that 2 testers usually plays with Pure Drive Roddick and is normal they said NO POWER about RQIS...
...then...i read that 2 tester plays with a FULL WESTERN GRIP and i normal too that they have heavy spin!!!

So...what kind of review is?

In my opinion you have to test this stick with 5 players that usually play with other Yonex and not with Babolat, then, they should be use the same grip to have a true review...

Just my 2 cents... ;)

I totally disagree, why would you intentionally have a Yonex biased crowd play testing a new Yonex stick. One has to put the review into the context of the playtester's level and current racket. In this way he can judge objectively. IMO it's great to have a number of play testers each playing different rackets having their opinions in that review, because it gives ME a greater chance of knowing what they are talking about given that I maybe tried at least a couple of the rackets they are using as their regular sticks.
The only Yonex I've hit with is the RD 7 so using a bunch of "yonex playing" testers would NOT help me much because I would have no way of comparing with other sticks (and that's the only objective comparison you can make...since play tester observation will NOT help if they are not put into the context of their level of play and current racket, because "powerful" and "feel" is different for everybody).
Also, using different testers for different rackets is NOT an option simply because of the lack of consistency in opinion. The only remotely objective thing one can do about rackets is compare with other rackets they've played, because, like I said "low powered" and "good feel" and "too powerful" are different for everybody. Given that I want to compare two rackets that are reviewed by TW...the fact that the play testers for both rackets are THE SAME helps me because it removes one of the variables from the equation (i.e different testers with different taste in rackets)

I agree. Coming from babolat you are not a good tester of the power level.

Some friends of mine using it totally disagree with this review!

Disagree. See above for reasons.

No i do think that the review is very usefull actually. You have to read it in context, each of the reviewers will compare the racquet he tests to their main stick, i think thats normal. If you look at the scores at the end though i think you will find pretty objective scoring.

Agreed, I have the same view on things.
PS Great job TW, especially on the "new type" of video review and the "likes" "dislikes" sections.

Leutonio
10-20-2007, 03:51 AM
OMG!

How you can trust in a tester that usually plays with a Pure Drive Roddick using a Full Western grip saying that RQIS has no power and too much spin?

PDR is the most powerful stick and the full western grip give you the possibilities to hit the ball with HEAVY spin...

I play with new RQIS and i can say that is very POWERFUL and i haven't problem when i'm serving!

lucu
10-20-2007, 03:57 AM
when they mentioned RQIS 1 is low powered, anyone knows that how low power it is? compare to dnx-10mid?

0d1n
10-20-2007, 04:00 AM
OMG!

How you can trust in a tester that usually plays with a Pure Drive Roddick using a Full Western grip saying that RQIS has no power and too much spin?

PDR is the most powerful stick and the full western grip give you the possibilities to hit the ball with HEAVY spin...

I play with new RQIS and i can say that is very POWERFUL and i haven't problem when i'm serving!

Amigo. You don't get what I said (and what Peter said before me ...). The guy playing the Pure Drive gives his opinion when comparing with his current racket. I maybe played with his current racket, but haven't played with the Yonie (if I would have played it...I wouldn't need the review because I would have my own opinion !).
As a result from reading the review I immediately have some useful info on it (i.e it's less powerful than a Pure Drive, it flexes more in the throat than in the head ...etc). This power thing MIGHT ACTUALLY BE A POSITIVE FOR ME, because I usually play the Fischer MSpeed Pro #1 which has similar characteristics...lower power, a bit of flex in the throat ... etc.
Like I said...given a reasonable level of intelligence and good English language comprehension, one can take A LOT of interesting information from the review.
You obviously disagree with the lack of power, and are in love with the Yonie...so good for you. You probably have different grips and style of play and for all I know you might have been playing a wood racket until 2 years ago which would make the Yonex Tour a rocket launcher FOR YOU. Disagreeing with the review is just fine AFTER you've played with the racket, but for me the review helps put things into perspective because I haven't yet played with it.
Hope things are clearer now ...

0d1n
10-20-2007, 04:03 AM
when they mentioned RQIS 1 is low powered, anyone knows that how low power it is? compare to dnx-10mid?

They rated the Yonex as a bit lower powered than the Fischer MSpeed Pro #1. I can tell you from experience that the 10 Mid is a more powerful stick than the Fischer. As a result I would expect the Yonex to also be lower powered than the Volkl ;).

bagung
10-20-2007, 04:04 AM
the "likes" and "dislikes" section is intresting...
a very good idea....

Duzza
10-20-2007, 04:16 AM
OMG!

How you can trust in a tester that usually plays with a Pure Drive Roddick using a Full Western grip saying that RQIS has no power and too much spin?

PDR is the most powerful stick and the full western grip give you the possibilities to hit the ball with HEAVY spin...
!

So what did you use before the RQIS? Something with very low power? If so, then the complete opposite makes your statement true as well...

How do you know the PDR is "the most powerful stick"? Comparing it to the low powered RQIS hey? (and yes, I realise you think the opposite.)

I find it a little peculiar that reviewers using racquets such as the Pro Henman Braided would also agree with the PDR users in stating that it is a low-powered racquet. Very peculiar...

Leutonio
10-20-2007, 05:00 AM
Waste of time.
Good luck.
After this review i think nobody will buy a RQIS!

Clap! Clap!

;)

Peter Szucs
10-20-2007, 05:29 AM
Waste of time.
Good luck.
After this review i think nobody will buy a RQIS!

Clap! Clap!

;)

With all respect i think you are wrong.

Players who prefer low powered frames will buy it bc they have the technique to generate enough power for their game. They probably find the PDR too powerful for their game. You said that you can generate lot of power from the frame... so you are probably one.

julianoz
10-20-2007, 05:52 AM
Waste of time.
Good luck.
After this review i think nobody will buy a RQIS!

Clap! Clap!

;)

Your post was a waste of time, thanks for providing the board with....NOTHING.

jace112
10-20-2007, 05:59 AM
I've just watched the video review. Do you guys think that the NTRP level of the playtester is right? No offense to them, but I thought that 4.5 or 5.0 was much better...

Fedace
10-20-2007, 06:07 AM
this is one of the best reviews i ever seen of any racket. but Lack power?? this racket was meant for players 4.5 or above so i don't think they could have added too much power to the frame or othewise hewitt couldn't have switched.

Leutonio
10-20-2007, 07:45 AM
I've just watched the video review. Do you guys think that the NTRP level of the playtester is right? No offense to them, but I thought that 4.5 or 5.0 was much better...

Totally AGREED!
I'm a 4.5 and i play tennis better than these 5 guys!
Good job anyway... :rolleyes:

autumn_leaf
10-20-2007, 09:01 AM
Just to let TW know there is no hyperlink to the review through the actual website.

0d1n
10-20-2007, 10:13 AM
Waste of time.
Good luck.
After this review i think nobody will buy a RQIS!

Clap! Clap!

;)

Why would you care more about selling the RQIS than TW themselves ??!?! Beats me !


Totally AGREED!
I'm a 4.5 and i play tennis better than these 5 guys!
Good job anyway... :rolleyes:

As far as I know Australia doesn't have the same rating system as the US...so how would you know what level you are ?? The "translation" between systems is an approximation at best ! Nice try though...go back to "yonexville" and stop wasting your precious time on the rest of us "mere mortals".
PS I'm sure you would beat Hewitt himself with your new Yonex toy.:rolleyes:

Chauvalito
10-20-2007, 10:25 AM
pretty nice ... wow it seems really low powered

This is really surprizing given the beam profile, and begs the question why Yonex felt it necessary to make the beam that large.

Am I wrong in assuming that wider beams are meant to provide more power, or is there another purpose for them?

I may be wrong, but I think they could have gone with a thinner beam and ended up with the same power level...

Fedace
10-20-2007, 10:38 AM
I've just watched the video review. Do you guys think that the NTRP level of the playtester is right? No offense to them, but I thought that 4.5 or 5.0 was much better...

The Girl is kind of cute though.

sureshs
10-20-2007, 11:26 AM
Likes and dislikes section was great. Now we know we can trust TW unlike Tennis magazine and the like whose reviews are a joke.

haerdalis
10-20-2007, 11:31 AM
This is really surprizing given the beam profile, and begs the question why Yonex felt it necessary to make the beam that large.

Am I wrong in assuming that wider beams are meant to provide more power, or is there another purpose for them?

I may be wrong, but I think they could have gone with a thinner beam and ended up with the same power level...
I have often wondered about that. Meaning the reason for having thick beam and low flex. Can it somehow add stability without making the racquet stiff?

spinny
10-20-2007, 11:54 AM
I think Leutonio has a point....up to a point. Ive owned PDs and APDCs and a few Yonex. 2 Different animals. If you play a PDR, you MUST hit softly, or youll never see the ball again.If one general rule may be made vis-a-vis tennis rackets, it is that muscle memory is the dominant factor in how anybody swings a stick. I used to play with Power Angle 98s, a low powered racket if there ever was one.I got used to it and was able to serve and stroke very well with it. People who were used to more powerful sticks, but were much better than I, said its low power made it unplayable for them. Now that Im using RDX500MP and POGOS, I, too find the Power Angle to be very difficult to hit a heavy ball.
In a few words, it's all what you are used to. Perhaps the playtesters should be draw from people who used similar rackets, or at least a mix of folks with a variety of experience.

sureshs
10-20-2007, 12:25 PM
There is no link from the racquet description page

LafayetteHitter
10-20-2007, 12:27 PM
Keep in mind that there will be people that watch this review who maybe use the Pure Drive and would like something with a bit less power but with similar beam width weight etc. For these guys this racquet might be the ideal setup. There is always useful information from a review. We have a group of negative Nancy's around here. Someone name another retailer that goes through the trouble to do what TW does with these reviews.

NoBadMojo
10-20-2007, 12:53 PM
String? Tension?

I think it would be helpful to know what strings and tension was used on the test frames in these reviews. Especially with poly being so popular

If this frame was strung at mid range or higher with a poly string, the racquet performance would certainly be diff than that of a frame strung at the same tension with a multi <as an example>

nickb
10-20-2007, 03:24 PM
Chris said at the the end they used multifilament strings at lower tension....prob NXT or something similar.

TW Staff
10-20-2007, 04:29 PM
I'm one of the playtesters using the PDR that said this racquet was low powered. My previous two sticks were both from Yonex; RDX 500 Mid and MP Tour-1 Mid. The RQiS Tour 1 reminded me of the RDX a bit as it was soft feeling and low powered. I believe I mentioned that in the review.

We tested this racquet with NXT 17, various polys, some experimental multis and Yonex 850. I preferred it strung just below mid with the Yonex 850 string.

It's a nice racquet if you really like to take a big cut at the ball. Not everyone wants power, and this is one to look at if you don't.

Chris, TW.

Leutonio
10-20-2007, 07:03 PM
I'm one of the playtesters using the PDR that said this racquet was low powered. My previous two sticks were both from Yonex; RDX 500 Mid and MP Tour-1 Mid. The RQiS Tour 1 reminded me of the RDX a bit as it was soft feeling and low powered. I believe I mentioned that in the review.

We tested this racquet with NXT 17, various polys, some experimental multis and Yonex 850. I preferred it strung just below mid with the Yonex 850 string.

It's a nice racquet if you really like to take a big cut at the ball. Not everyone wants power, and this is one to look at if you don't.

Chris, TW.

OK ;) , thanks for your explanation and good job anyway.
I respect your point of view. I've tried Yonex strings as the first test strings on my RQIS and i didn't like it, so i've quickly changed with Tecnifibre X-One 17 gauge and now i have a nice soft feeling, good power and a lot of control, BUT, i have easy spin only when i'm trying to hit the ball using a SEMI or FULL western grip.
I usually play with an eastern grip and in my opinion this racquet has a normal spin value!!!
Perhaps, we should have all the reports about others owners on this community.

Peace. ;)

Fedace
10-20-2007, 07:35 PM
I'm one of the playtesters using the PDR that said this racquet was low powered. My previous two sticks were both from Yonex; RDX 500 Mid and MP Tour-1 Mid. The RQiS Tour 1 reminded me of the RDX a bit as it was soft feeling and low powered. I believe I mentioned that in the review.

We tested this racquet with NXT 17, various polys, some experimental multis and Yonex 850. I preferred it strung just below mid with the Yonex 850 string.

It's a nice racquet if you really like to take a big cut at the ball. Not everyone wants power, and this is one to look at if you don't.

Chris, TW.

I still think the Swingweight on tour-2 is incorrect. is there anyway you can Redo the Swingweight for tour-2 and post please

max8176
10-20-2007, 09:50 PM
I am definitely interested in this racket because it might feel similarly to my RD-7s.

0d1n
10-21-2007, 04:03 AM
I am definitely interested in this racket because it might feel similarly to my RD-7s.

I for one could absolutely hit the cover off the ball with the RD-7 so that one was far from low powered for me. Here we go again with the subjectiveness of "powerful" or "low powered" ;)...
Some people just can't put reviews (or anything else for that matter) in the proper context (or maybe they just refuse to do it ) :confused:.
Anyway max ... great racket you're using now ... hang on to it if it's still in good shape :)

martin
10-21-2007, 04:19 AM
this is one of the best reviews i ever seen of any racket. but Lack power?? this racket was meant for players 4.5 or above so i don't think they could have added too much power to the frame or othewise hewitt couldn't have switched.

Were you not the one who posted that Hewitt had so much more power with his new racket??

jelle v
10-21-2007, 05:29 AM
I really liked how this review actually showed two guys hitting at a time, as opposed to the angles from the previous reviews that would show a few strokes and you couldn't see where the ball was going...these are definitely getting better.

Nice review indeed and I agree woth you that this kind of angle (showing 2 guys at the same time hitting the ball) is a big improvement.

Fedace
10-21-2007, 07:10 AM
Were you not the one who posted that Hewitt had so much more power with his new racket??

Hewitt is getting more power with this frame than his old frame that is what i meant. Hewitt's old frame was one of the lowest power frame to begin with. tour-1 probably still has more power than his old frame.

Klatu Verata Necktie
10-21-2007, 08:29 AM
One question I have about this stick concerns the size of the beam in the head. Why build such a thick beam if the increase in power isn't substantial? Is the idea to slightly increase the power while maintaining a soft, flexible feel?

Fedace
10-21-2007, 08:49 AM
One question I have about this stick concerns the size of the beam in the head. Why build such a thick beam if the increase in power isn't substantial? Is the idea to slightly increase the power while maintaining a soft, flexible feel?

You are perfectly right on the concept. thicker head beam to provide more stiffness in the head so little more power. Maybe TW staff just needs to pump some more iron..;)

sureshs
10-21-2007, 12:51 PM
Are there any special mikes placed near the court? The ball sound was awesome.

Peter Szucs
10-21-2007, 11:27 PM
Spencer hits the forehand like Fippo Volandri.;)

Leutonio
10-22-2007, 03:46 AM
Spencer hits the forehand like Fippo Volandri.;)

FILIPPO, not FIPPO!

Peter Szucs
10-22-2007, 06:59 AM
FILIPPO, not FIPPO!

Fippo is his nickname

sureshs
10-22-2007, 12:30 PM
I am waiting for Tennis mag gear section to add this racquet specs to their database. I want to see what is their power rating.

Leutonio
10-22-2007, 04:04 PM
Fippo is his nickname

Filippo is a friend of mine and i've never called him FIPPO...
I've never heard someone call him FIPPO except you, but is not a problem. :p

p3k
10-23-2007, 12:43 AM
I am waiting for Tennis mag gear section to add this racquet specs to their database. I want to see what is their power rating.

I think you can get that number yourself by using the formula:

head size x swingweight x stiffness / 1000