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Deuce
12-07-2007, 02:49 AM
I don't know if George Carlin is the true author of this or not. It matters little, I suppose.

Just wanted to share it - because I think much of it is true.
(Emphases mine)...

The paradox of our time in history is that we have taller buildings but shorter tempers; wider freeways, but narrower viewpoints. We spend more, but have less; we buy more, but enjoy less. We have bigger houses and smaller families; more conveniences, but less time. We have more diplomas and degrees, but less sense; more knowledge, but less judgment; more experts, yet more problems; more medicine, but less wellness.

We drink too much, smoke too much, spend too recklessly, laugh too little, drive too fast, get too angry, stay up too late, get up too tired, read too little, watch TV too much, and pray too seldom. We have multiplied our possessions, but reduced our values. We talk too much, love too seldom, and hate too often.

We've learned how to make a living, but not a life. We've added years to life not life to years. We've been all the way to the moon and back, but have trouble crossing the street to meet a new neighbour. We conquered outer space but not inner space.

We've done larger things, but not better things. We've cleaned up the air, but polluted the soul. We've conquered the atom, but not our prejudice. We write more, but learn less. We plan more, but accomplish less. We've learned to rush, but not to wait. We build more computers to hold more information, to produce more copies than ever, but we communicate less and less.

These are the times of fast foods and slow digestion; big men and small character; steep profits and shallow relationships. These are the days of two incomes but more divorce; fancier houses, but broken homes. These are days of quick trips, disposable diapers, throwaway morality, one night stands, overweight bodies, and pills that do everything from cheer, to quiet, to kill. It is a time when there is much in the showroom window and nothing in the stockroom. A time when technology can bring this letter to you, and a time when you can choose either to share this insight, or to just hit delete.

Remember, spend some time with your loved ones, because they are not going to be around forever. Remember, say a kind word to someone who looks up to you in awe, because that little person soon will grow up and leave your side.

Remember, to give a warm hug to the one next to you, because that is the only treasure you can give with your heart and it doesn't cost a cent.

Remember, to say, "I love you" to your partner and your loved ones, but most of all mean it. A kiss and an embrace will mend hurt when it comes from deep inside of you. Remember to hold hands and cherish the moment for someday that person will not be there again. Give time to love, give time to speak, and give time to share the precious thoughts in your mind.

Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the moments that take our breath away.

slice bh compliment
12-07-2007, 06:18 AM
Well done, Deuce. Wisdom from a sage....and very timely, too.

Thanks for starting this thread. It probably will not be a popular or controversial one, but I'm definitely going to copy it and share it with friends and family.

Peace on earth and good will....

Nuke
12-07-2007, 06:28 AM
Can't actually be from Carlin. The line "and pray too seldom" isn't something he'd say. He's atheist.

Nuke
12-07-2007, 06:41 AM
Found this on snopes.com:

The true author of the piece is neither George Carlin nor Jeff Dickson, nor is he anonymous. Credit belongs with Dr. Bob Moorehead, former pastor of Seattle's Overlake Christian Church. (He retired in 1998 after 29 years in that post). The essay appeared under the title "The Paradox of Our Age" in Words Aptly Spoken, Dr. Moorehead's 1995 collection of prayers, homilies, and monologues used in his sermons and radio broadcasts.
. . .
Those intent upon taking inspiration from "Paradox" should consider the following: during Bob Moorehead's tenure as pastor of Overlake Christian Church, seventeen members of his congregation reported that he had sexually assaulted them. These allegations, which surfaced in 1997, prompted his resignation in 1998. After a year of publicly supporting Moorehead the church elders withdrew their support, their own investigation into the charges having led them to conclude their pastor had indeed been guilty of molesting a number of male churchgoers.

theace21
12-07-2007, 06:53 AM
Nuke thanks for the insight. "We've been all the way to the moon and back, but have trouble crossing the street to meet a new neighbour", this sure hits home where I live...Everyone keeps to them selves. Much different than the previous home.

Deuce
12-07-2007, 11:13 PM
Found this on snopes.com:

The true author of the piece is neither George Carlin nor Jeff Dickson, nor is he anonymous. Credit belongs with Dr. Bob Moorehead, former pastor of Seattle's Overlake Christian Church. (He retired in 1998 after 29 years in that post). The essay appeared under the title "The Paradox of Our Age" in Words Aptly Spoken, Dr. Moorehead's 1995 collection of prayers, homilies, and monologues used in his sermons and radio broadcasts.
. . .
Those intent upon taking inspiration from "Paradox" should consider the following: during Bob Moorehead's tenure as pastor of Overlake Christian Church, seventeen members of his congregation reported that he had sexually assaulted them. These allegations, which surfaced in 1997, prompted his resignation in 1998. After a year of publicly supporting Moorehead the church elders withdrew their support, their own investigation into the charges having led them to conclude their pastor had indeed been guilty of molesting a number of male churchgoers.
That's quite unfortunate if true.

Regardless of who actually penned the words, let us focus on their meaning, and not on the author, whomever he or she may actually be.

CanadianChic
12-07-2007, 11:22 PM
Deuce this is a nice thread and I agree that these words should be enjoyed regardless of origin. My contribution (not one of Carlin's but still nice):

"You come to love not by finding the perfect person, but by seeing an imperfect person perfectly." - Sam Keen

Tennis-Chris
12-08-2007, 01:01 AM
That's quite unfortunate if true.

Regardless of who actually penned the words, let us focus on their meaning, and not on the author, whomever he or she may actually be.

Why is it unfortunate? Because the author happens to be a religious man? Please explain.

lethalfang
12-08-2007, 01:10 AM
I would like to make 2 points:

1) I shall never be ashamed of citing a bad author if the line is good. --Seneca

But I would really like to make my second point:
2) The original speech makes good sound bite but little more. It's nothing more than a nice rhetoric consists of a series of "more yet less" put together, most of his points should be heavily disputed.

Just to make some examples with the 1st paragraph:
"The paradox of our time in history is that we have taller buildings but shorter tempers."
Okay, what makes him believe that we have shorter tempers during our time? Is that claim verified in any way?

"wider freeways, but narrower viewpoints."
Narrower viewpoints? According to whom?

"We spend more, but have less;"
We have less? Care to explain?

"we buy more, but enjoy less."
How do you know we enjoy less?

"We have bigger houses and smaller families;"
Is smaller families a bad thing?

"more conveniences, but less time."
Self-contradictory. What's your point?

"We have more diplomas and degrees, but less sense;"
What makes you think we have less sense? Care to give your senses?

"more knowledge, but less judgment;"
In my view, we have too much "judgment," not less.

"more experts, yet more problems;"
I'm not sure there is a causation here.

"more medicine, but less wellness."
Again, I have to disagree.

The original speech may have a point, but it's being way exaggerated to further his own view.



Found this on snopes.com:

The true author of the piece is neither George Carlin nor Jeff Dickson, nor is he anonymous. Credit belongs with Dr. Bob Moorehead, former pastor of Seattle's Overlake Christian Church. (He retired in 1998 after 29 years in that post). The essay appeared under the title "The Paradox of Our Age" in Words Aptly Spoken, Dr. Moorehead's 1995 collection of prayers, homilies, and monologues used in his sermons and radio broadcasts.
. . .
Those intent upon taking inspiration from "Paradox" should consider the following: during Bob Moorehead's tenure as pastor of Overlake Christian Church, seventeen members of his congregation reported that he had sexually assaulted them. These allegations, which surfaced in 1997, prompted his resignation in 1998. After a year of publicly supporting Moorehead the church elders withdrew their support, their own investigation into the charges having led them to conclude their pastor had indeed been guilty of molesting a number of male churchgoers.

Tennis-Chris
12-08-2007, 01:28 AM
I would like to make 2 points:

1) I shall never be ashamed of citing a bad author if the line is good. --Seneca

But I would really like to make my second point:
2) The original speech makes good sound bite but little more. It's nothing more than a nice rhetoric consists of a series of "more yet less" put together, most of his points should be heavily disputed.

Just to make some examples with the 1st paragraph:
"The paradox of our time in history is that we have taller buildings but shorter tempers."
Okay, what makes him believe that we have shorter tempers during our time? Is that claim verified in any way?

"wider freeways, but narrower viewpoints."
Narrower viewpoints? According to whom?

"We spend more, but have less;"
We have less? Care to explain?

"we buy more, but enjoy less."
How do you know we enjoy less?

"We have bigger houses and smaller families;"
Is smaller families a bad thing?

"more conveniences, but less time."
Self-contradictory. What's your point?

"We have more diplomas and degrees, but less sense;"
What makes you think we have less sense? Care to give your senses?

"more knowledge, but less judgment;"
In my view, we have too much "judgment," not less.

"more experts, yet more problems;"
I'm not sure there is a causation here.

"more medicine, but less wellness."
Again, I have to disagree.

The original speech may have a point, but it's being way exaggerated to further his own view.

It is easy (and popular) to gripe about how people are different today, care less, are more materialistic, etc. etc. I find that the people I surround myself with tend to take advantage of better medicine today, strive to gain more knowledge and be less judgmental and have broader viewpoints.

I agree with you. I think the author has exaggerated things to further a viewpoint. One does not have to travel very far to find really great people who are striving to be better people, contribute more and enjoy what they have in the way of not only material goods but relationships, spirituality and quality of life. :mrgreen: