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icorp
01-13-2008, 08:19 AM
I recently picked up a Volkl Tour 10 Quantum MP 16 by 19 string pattern and wondering if this is the same as Tour 10 Gen I? It's a nice racket with thin beam and light about 11.5 oz strung. Thanks for your help!

NoBadMojo
01-13-2008, 08:34 AM
No. it is an entirely different racquet

Rabbit
01-13-2008, 03:36 PM
The racket you picked up is the follow-on to Becker's first baby at Volkl, the Q10. The Q10, when introduced, was a stiff & tinny feeling frame. It was also very light, too light. I remember being excited about the prospect of hitting with it. Much to my chagrin, when I did, my arm didn't respond well and hurt for a week.

The Q10 Tour was the fix. It was a nice frame if you like a heavier frame with a denser string pattern. The Q10 Tour really was a vast improvement over its lighter sibling. It never really caught on as a seller and was in the sale bins as a really good bargain. From what I understand, it is still the actual frame that Becker prefers.

danix
01-13-2008, 08:27 PM
Slow down boys, it might be the Tour 10. The early Tour 10 says "Quantum" on the frame as I recall.

If the frame is black and yellow, yes, it's the Tour 10. This is the best frame I've ever hit with to date, but it has some limitations (to me and my game/ability, at least).

If it's the Quantum 10, sorry, it's crap. The Tour version was better but nothing wonderful.

NoBadMojo
01-13-2008, 08:44 PM
Slow down boys, it might be the Tour 10. The early Tour 10 says "Quantum" on the frame as I recall.

If the frame is black and yellow, yes, it's the Tour 10. This is the best frame I've ever hit with to date, but it has some limitations (to me and my game/ability, at least).

If it's the Quantum 10, sorry, it's crap. The Tour version was better but nothing wonderful.

as i said, two entirely different frames. . The Quantum 10 was also yellow and black but with some grey. It really felt like a precision instrument and i really wanted to like it, but it just didnt feel good unless you precisely nailed every ball and then it felt pretty awesome. the sweetzone on this stick was more demanding than most mids.

he said the racquet was 11.5 ozs strung. that matches specs of the non P-rap Quantum10. the Gen1 weighed at least that much unstrung. The P-Rap version was a bit better playing, but still demanding in respect to developing power and finding the sweetzone..i agree..not one of Volkls best efforts. a close but no cigar.

icorp
01-15-2008, 09:04 AM
It is yellow and black with fishnet design at 3 & 9, no gray. It looks like it has a full cap bumper like the the Prestiges. I re-weighed and it is 11.6 oz strung with Kevlar/synthetic hybrid and 1 overgrip. Not sure what P-rap is?

NoBadMojo
01-15-2008, 09:37 AM
danix could be right...maybe someone can post a picture because that would be the only way to tell for sure as things get lost in translation. the early Gen1's did have quantum decals on the the front of it on the throat. the frame you describe seems a bit light for a gen1 especially strung with kevlar which is the heaviest string i can think of, but you never know. P-Rap is a bumper/grommet system a bit like the CAP grommets. They used them on the later Q10's. The Gen1 also has a bumper system that wraps around the frame all the way down to the throat. I bet if you searched the net, you could find pics and solve the mystery..i just cant help you with any certainty

ps60
01-15-2008, 09:45 AM
I've seen a Q10tour with thick beam (around 22~24mm), greyish with yellow maybe black patches at the Volkl booth lately (when Venus and Maria were in town). it was about 305g unstrung and was on sale for just less than USD44. I was itchy because i 've been using Q Tour 10 mid. But i know the MP version should look just like my black/yellow stick and feels much heavier (and swing kind of stiff, but not so when really hitting).

I saved the bucks and bought a 2nd hand identical to mine on a local web for the same amount. i 've not strung it yet but i know if it 's not a broken one, i will be very happy to have 2 of these babies.

It is just around 310g unstrung. Not really heavy and probably is the light Quantum Tour10 ppl here are talking down, But i really like it.

Yr stick is 16x18 pattern and it is just not my QT10, but would it be the T10 mp (gen 1) ??

i guess one info to clarify is to find out the beam thickness. the real T10 should be around 19mm i guess.

icorp
01-20-2008, 03:54 PM
The beam is about 20mm. http://http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/4689/img00042ba2.th.jpg (http://img521.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img00042ba2.jpg)

icorp
01-20-2008, 03:57 PM
Here is another pic that shows Tour at the top of the hoop. http://<a href="http://img301.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img00041qt2.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/442/img00041qt2.th.jpg" border="0" alt="Free Image Hosting at www.ImageShack.us" /></a>

icorp
01-20-2008, 03:57 PM
http://<a href="http://img301.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img00041qt2.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/442/img00041qt2.th.jpg" border="0" alt="Free Image Hosting at www.ImageShack.us" /></a>

icorp
01-20-2008, 03:58 PM
http://<a href="http://img301.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img00041qt2.jpg" target="_blank"><img src="http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/442/img00041qt2.th.jpg" border="0" alt="Free Image Hosting at www.ImageShack.us" /></a>

icorp
01-20-2008, 03:59 PM
Sorry, I'm new to posting pics here.

http://img301.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img00041qt2.jpg

blubber
01-20-2008, 04:21 PM
That's a Tour 10 Gen 1.

ericsson
01-20-2008, 11:55 PM
There's a difference between Tour 10 and 10 Tour, both come as Quantum sometimes but there is only one quantum Tour 10 (16x19) and one Quantum 10 Tour (18x20)
The last one also had a light version.
The first one a mid.

danix
01-21-2008, 12:04 AM
Confirmed, Tour 10 Gen 1. Awesome stick.

Those in the know often cut down the bumpers to make the frame more head light. You have to trim the edges while still leaving the center grommets, naturally.

0d1n
01-21-2008, 12:24 AM
Great frame, I have the version with the "Tour" text instead of the "Quantum" one, but it's the same racket.
I've been playing with it more and more lately since I'm starting to play on clay more, and it hits through the court better than the MSpeed's I've been using for indoor play.
The Mspeed is more maneuverable and gives me as good as or even better control...but the "weight of the punch" is far greater with this frame especially on clay.
I notice the same opponents having more trouble returning my balls decently and with consistent depth when playing this frame instead of the MSpeed on the clay.
It's also a bit lighter (less mass, and sw -> due to partially trimmed bumper) than the DNX mid I have (another very good frame) and it looks to me like it hits the same type of ball (maybe slightly less powerful...but I'll take the extra maneuverability...for that hardly noticeable difference in "heaviness").

icorp
02-01-2008, 04:01 PM
Thanks for eveyone's input! I didn't know this was the infamous Gen 1 when I first hit with this racket specially at this weight I was expecting soemthing heavier for a players racket. But to my pleasant surprise I played well with this. The right balance of power & control and I end up playing more consistently and not hit spectacular shots only to be followed by 2 or 3 errors as I usually do. My defense has gotten stronger almost turning this into offense on running forehands. The upper hoop stiffness is perfect for my game as I tend to hit north of the center spot.

danix
02-01-2008, 04:24 PM
Glad you like it. If you decide to stick with it, I have a couple of used ones available :)

icorp
02-02-2008, 09:39 AM
danix, shoot me an email in case I need some spares to ago.albert@gmail.com. Thanks!

Chauvalito
02-02-2008, 09:52 AM
Can someone describe the specs of the Quantum 10 tour?

The 18x20 version, I have gotten confused with this in the past in other threads, and during searches. I know a place that may have a few of these, but I want to make sure I don't ask for the wrong version.

Other than having an 18x20, what other specs distinguish this racket from other volkls that have quantum, and tour written on them?

thank you!!!

louis netman
02-02-2008, 10:07 AM
Can someone describe the specs of the Quantum 10 tour?

The 18x20 version, I have gotten confused with this in the past in other threads, and during searches. I know a place that may have a few of these, but I want to make sure I don't ask for the wrong version.

Other than having an 18x20, what other specs distinguish this racket from other volkls that have quantum, and tour written on them?

thank you!!!

Don't have exact specs, but too light, somewhat "tinny," and not one of the favorites of Volkl fans.

Chauvalito
02-02-2008, 10:09 AM
Don't have exact specs, but too light, somewhat "tinny," and not one of the favorites of Volkl fans.

Do you remember the color scheme. specifically what distinguished it from other Volkl 10 series rackets at the time?

Thank you

louis netman
02-02-2008, 10:19 AM
Do you remember the color scheme. specifically what distinguished it from other Volkl 10 series rackets at the time?

Thank you

http://web.archive.org/web/20031206125128/www.tennis-warehouse.com/descpageRCVOLKL-Q10T.html

Chauvalito
02-02-2008, 10:23 AM
http://web.archive.org/web/20031206125128/www.tennis-warehouse.com/descpageRCVOLKL-Q10T.html

Awesome, thanks!

Chauvalito
02-02-2008, 10:23 AM
Don't have exact specs, but too light, somewhat "tinny," and not one of the favorites of Volkl fans.

Would lead be a possible solution for this?

louis netman
02-02-2008, 10:29 AM
Would lead be a possible solution for this?

Lead may solve many things, as long as you don't go overboard. I, myself like leather and expand the butt on every frame I use, which incidentally adds about 20-22g to the handle without even adding any lead.

I haven't experimented with that particular frame...

Chauvalito
02-02-2008, 10:34 AM
Lead may solve many things, as long as you don't go overboard. I, myself like leather and expand the butt on every frame I use, which incidentally adds about 20-22g to the handle without even adding any lead.

I haven't experimented with that particular frame...

Leather for me as well, all of my rackets, even the ones I rarely use have been changed to leather grips.

I am also a fan of adding lead at 3 and 9 for a little more stability, doing that will bring this racket to nearly 12 oz...

I know I have way to many rackets, rackets that I don't use, but i might give this one a shot for fun...

the stick I keep returning to is the volkl C7, I ordered two from Japan which have not shown up and with each day i am getting less certain that they will show. I have a red C7 which is out of commission due to lack of grommets, I have a sneaking suspicion, or atleast a dumb notion that the grommets for the quantum 10 tour may fit the C7, which could possibly produce a prestige effect...

louis netman
02-02-2008, 10:48 AM
Leather for me as well, all of my rackets, even the ones I rarely use have been changed to leather grips.

I am also a fan of adding lead at 3 and 9 for a little more stability, doing that will bring this racket to nearly 12 oz...

I know I have way to many rackets, rackets that I don't use, but i might give this one a shot for fun...

the stick I keep returning to is the volkl C7, I ordered two from Japan which have not shown up and with each day i am getting less certain that they will show. I have a red C7 which is out of commission due to lack of grommets, I have a sneaking suspicion, or atleast a dumb notion that the grommets for the quantum 10 tour may fit the C7, which could possibly produce a prestige effect...

I'm still waiting for my L5-C7....I have a pair of Red, L4-C7s that have been next to each other on my rack for years. They have not produced any offspring.
RE: your inquiry, the weighted QT, IMO, will not give you what you want if you are a C7 fan. Although they may be from a similar mold, they have entirely different lay-ups...

BTW, wondering why the c7 and c8 don't have swappable pallets...

Chauvalito
02-02-2008, 11:21 AM
I'm still waiting for my L5-C7....I have a pair of Red, L4-C7s that have been next to each other on my rack for years. They have not produced any offspring.
RE: your inquiry, the weighted QT, IMO, will not give you what you want if you are a C7 fan. Although they may be from a similar mold, they have entirely different lay-ups...

BTW, wondering why the c7 and c8 don't have swappable pallets...

You may be right, I need to wait until I get a definitive answer from USPS on the C7's before I go looking for more rackets. The Quantum is from the titanium generation, which was short lived.

did you order a brand new C7? they are becoming increasingly hard to find. I jumped on the chance to get some new ones after seeing them on a Japanese website. With the help of another poster(onkystomper) I purchased them...but my mistake was ordering them around the Christmas holidays, they shipped a few days after Christmas and have not turned up anywhere.

Chauvalito
02-02-2008, 11:23 AM
Do you mean pallets as far as the handle is concerned?

The bumper for the most part seems swappable...the C8 does have the control grommets at 3 and 9, I dont know how they would fit.

Diehard 6.0 has stated on the board that the grommets from the DNX 10 MP fit the C7, the last two grommets may be short however. I e-mailed him, to ask what his remedy for the last 2 grips were, but he has not mailed me back yet.

louis netman
02-02-2008, 05:36 PM
Do you mean pallets as far as the handle is concerned?

The bumper for the most part seems swappable...the C8 does have the control grommets at 3 and 9, I dont know how they would fit.

Diehard 6.0 has stated on the board that the grommets from the DNX 10 MP fit the C7, the last two grommets may be short however. I e-mailed him, to ask what his remedy for the last 2 grips were, but he has not mailed me back yet.


Yeah, the C7 and C8 don't have the swappable pallet system like the C9, C10, T10 and subsequent frames... Nice that the DNX 10 grommets fit...