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soyizgood
01-23-2008, 05:52 PM
http://images.businessweek.com/ss/06/10/happiest_countries/index_01.htm?chan=rss_topSlideShows_ssi_5

Interesting way to measure countries' happiness level. According to this methodology, Denmark is the happiest country.

China came in No. 82, India ranked 125, and Russia was 167. The U.S. came in at 23. I think Japan was 90.

Bhutan at number 8, a country with 47% literacy rate? Canada at number 10? I'd like to see the full list, but the article does not have it.

Meanwhile: http://www.happyplanetindex.org/list.htm

America ranks 150th according to this index. EWWWW

Tempest344
01-23-2008, 05:57 PM
usually poorer countries are happier
becuase they are not as materialistic as many 1st world countries
and do not have the high stress, high worry lifestyle (and most of the things we/they worry about are very trivial when you think about it)

UAE has 9.9 for their ecological footprint woah

australia arghh 139

diegaa
01-23-2008, 06:27 PM
i believe the ecological stuff has too much weight in the index.

jaggy
01-23-2008, 06:41 PM
Quit hating our freedom, America is # 1 in everything

Fuzzy10sBalls
01-23-2008, 06:41 PM
Im moving to mexico!!!!!!!!

westside
01-23-2008, 06:47 PM
Australia is 139?!

power_play21
01-23-2008, 07:14 PM
Australia is 139?!

yea weird. one of the most fun countries with the most interesting people i've ever been to.

AM28143
01-23-2008, 07:27 PM
I just returned from a trip to Ecuador and I must say the Tribal Ecuadorians living in the rain forest appeared to be pretty happy. The did not have much, just what they needed, and it didn't bother them. Everyone got a long, as far I could see, and everyone had a smile on his or her face. Also, interestingly, unlike Americans, they did not feel the need to "be doing something" every second of the day, they were content to just lay out in the sun and enjoy the smaller things in life. It was interesting learning how people with so little can occupy their time so effectively.

Teh_pwnerer
01-23-2008, 07:30 PM
mexico its pretty happy everyone i see is smiling lolz

soyizgood
01-23-2008, 07:38 PM
mexico its pretty happy everyone i see is smiling lolz

So happy they keep coming here in droves, huh?

AM28143
01-23-2008, 07:43 PM
For the most part, Americans are unhappy because of their consumerism. The problem with material goods is that there is always something better than what you have. For instance, if you buy a 2007 brand car, within 6 months the 2008 brand cars come out and all of a sudden there is something better than what you have, which, subsequently makes you feel bad about your life. You feel that others, the people with the 2008 cars, have it better than you do. It's a cruel, impossible to win game society plays on people. They toy with your endless wants and leave you miserable. This problem occurs around the world; however, it's most prominent in the States where capitalism is the strongest.

SoBad
01-23-2008, 07:55 PM
I just returned from a trip to Ecuador and I must say the Tribal Ecuadorians living in the rain forest appeared to be pretty happy. The did not have much, just what they needed, and it didn't bother them. Everyone got a long, as far I could see, and everyone had a smile on his or her face. Also, interestingly, unlike Americans, they did not feel the need to "be doing something" every second of the day, they were content to just lay out in the sun and enjoy the smaller things in life. It was interesting learning how people with so little can occupy their time so effectively.

Happiness (= extent of ability to manage time) is a function of one’s net worth, which in turn is sum of one’s assets and liabilities. Therefore, it should not be surprising that someone with few assets and fewer liabilities is happier than someone with great assets and greater liabilities, regardless of what may be perceived as absolute value of the respective assets and liabilities. Just a thought…

Teh_pwnerer
01-23-2008, 07:57 PM
So happy they keep coming here in droves, huh?

lol racist b1tch, i go there to buy stuff cheaper, lazy *** *********as that cant get a job hop the border..

AM28143
01-23-2008, 08:05 PM
Happiness (= extent of ability to manage time) is a function of one’s net worth, which in turn is sum of one’s assets and liabilities. Therefore, it should not be surprising that someone with few assets and fewer liabilities is happier than someone with great assets and greater liabilities, regardless of what may be perceived as absolute value of the respective assets and liabilities. Just a thought…

Good point. Interesting perspective. And, btw, why the new avatar?

soyizgood
01-23-2008, 08:08 PM
lol racist b1tch, i go there to buy stuff cheaper, lazy *** *********as that cant get a job hop the border..

I'm sure the Mexicans that live in the ghost towns along the border are happy. After all, the illegals send their extra money back to Mexico, while the Mexican government chips in $1 for every $3 they get back from the illegals. Mexico wins in that they export their poor on us and the families of the illegals get money that keeps their standard of living above poverty. Meanwhile America sees almost no tax revenue and has to accommodate them ruining our schools, prisons, social services, and standard of living. No wonder Mexico is a happier country than America...UGH!

Teh_pwnerer
01-23-2008, 08:13 PM
hey at least we're not hated by the rest of the world..

SoBad
01-23-2008, 08:15 PM
Good point. Interesting perspective. And, btw, why the new avatar?

Life moves forward, time passes, things change, and so do avatars and other means of expressing oneself. I thought you brought up an interesting question – why is the fat “rich” gringo less happy than the half naked “poor” local boy selling ice-cream to him, so I thought I'd share a reflection.

quest01
01-23-2008, 08:15 PM
I wonder what North Korea or Iraq was ranked?

AM28143
01-23-2008, 08:18 PM
Life moves forward, time passes, things change, and so do avatars and other means of expressing oneself. I thought you brought up an interesting question – why is the fat “rich” gringo less happy than the half naked “poor” local boy selling ice-cream to him, so I thought I'd share a reflection.

What is the significance behind the term "gringo"? Does it have something to do with the Spanish-American war?

CanadianChic
01-23-2008, 08:20 PM
I'm not surprised at all to hear that Canada is #10. The thing we complain the most about is the weather, but in the same breath are puffed with a personal pride - the climate is so diverse and only makes us appreciate everything a little more. What doesn't kill us makes us stronger.

SoBad
01-23-2008, 08:24 PM
What is the significance behind the term "gringo"? Does it have something to do with the Spanish-American war?

I’m not too sure, but I think it’s a derogatory term for arrogant Anglosaxon and/or light-skinned Enlgish-speaking foreigner, similar to “gaijin” in Japan or “gweilo” in South China.

soyizgood
01-23-2008, 08:25 PM
What is the significance behind the term "gringo"? Does it have something to do with the Spanish-American war?

Try the Mexican-American War. Or the earlier war in which Texas broke away. Technically, the Texans voided their contract with Mexico. They got cheap land (something around 3 cents/acre), but they were supposed to convert to Catholicism and renounce their American citizenship. They didn't and actually stole from Mexico. I can see the Mexicans wanting to repopulate Texas, but the Mexicans neglected California even more than the Spanish did, yet they keep moving here. AY-YIGH-YIGH

AM28143
01-23-2008, 08:27 PM
I'm not surprised at all to hear that Canada is #10. The thing we complain the most about is the weather, but in the same breath are puffed with a personal pride - the climate is so diverse and only makes us appreciate everything a little more. What doesn't kill us makes us stronger.

I was surprised Canada ranked so high. I’ve been there a few times and I once spent two months there, never throughout my travels did I find overwhelming evidence that Canada was much different than America. But, then again, I grew up in Maine, and maybe never learned what America really is like.

CanadianChic
01-23-2008, 08:28 PM
Try the Mexican-American War. Or the earlier war in which Texas broke away. Technically, the Texans voided their contract with Mexico. They got cheap land (something around 3 cents/acre), but they were supposed to convert to Catholicism and renounce their American citizenship. They didn't and actually stole from Mexico.

Are you referring to the Texas War of Independence?

AM28143
01-23-2008, 08:30 PM
Try the Mexican-American War. Or the earlier war in which Texas broke away. Technically, the Texans voided their contract with Mexico. They got cheap land (something around 3 cents/acre), but they were supposed to convert to Catholicism and renounce their American citizenship. They didn't and actually stole from Mexico. I can see the Mexicans wanting to retake Texas, but the Mexicans neglected California even more than the Spanish did, yet they keep moving here. AY-YIGH-YIGH

Oh, ok. Thanks. For some odd reason I thought the term came from the Spanish-American war. It's late I guess, my mind isn't working that well. :)

soyizgood
01-23-2008, 08:31 PM
Are you referring to the Texas War of Independence?

Yes, the Alamo, Santa Ana (aka Napoleon of the West) who lost his wooden foot retreating, Sam Houston, Tennessee Volunteers, and all that other historical stuff.

CanadianChic
01-23-2008, 08:33 PM
I was surprised Canada ranked so high. I’ve been there a few times and I once spent two months there, never throughout my travels did I find overwhelming evidence that Canada was much different than America. But, then again, I grew up in Maine, and maybe never learned what America really is like.

Canada is a huge country with many different cultures tied into one. It would be nearly impossible to gain any real insight into the complexity, diversity and "feeling" of the country from a single visit to one area. We love our environment, our wildlife, our beautiful land and are amazingly patriotic. As a general we are incredibly accepting and forgiving, yet can only be pushed so far before we react and then it's no holds barred. ;)

AM28143
01-23-2008, 08:41 PM
Canada is a huge country with many different cultures tied into one. It would be nearly impossible to gain any real insight into the complexity, diversity and "feeling" of the country from a single visit to one area. We love our environment, our wildlife, our beautiful land and are amazingly patriotic. As a general we are incredibly accepting and forgiving, yet can only be pushed so far before we react and then it's no holds barred. ;)

Not as diverse as America. :) We might be miserable, but we do have one sick piece of land.

AM28143
01-23-2008, 08:42 PM
Yes, the Alamo, Santa Ana (aka Napoleon of the West) who lost his wooden foot retreating, Sam Houston, Tennessee Volunteers, and all that other historical stuff.

Don't forget Davy Crockett.

CanadianChic
01-23-2008, 08:43 PM
Not as diverse as America. :) We might be miserable, but we do have one sick piece of land.

Well, it's too bad you guys are so miserable. Hopefully that will change, although I don't feel it will be through politics or religion. We could debate the differences but I think it's fair to say that both countries have much diversity.

AM28143
01-23-2008, 08:47 PM
Well, it's too bad you guys are so miserable. Hopefully that will change, although I don't feel it will be through politics or religion. We could debate the differences but I think it's fair to say that both countries have much diversity.

Agreed! Canada is truly beautiful, especially Quebec. Parts of Canada are 100 years in the past and other parts are 20 years in the future, it’s quite amazing. And, also, most importantly, Canada did produce Neil Young. :)

tbini87
01-23-2008, 09:15 PM
it is funny that because one country gets ranked higher or lower than another that people from that country are either happy or miserable. isn't that just stereotyping? if someone is canadian they are happy, if you are american you are miserable... that is hilarious.

AM28143
01-23-2008, 09:17 PM
it is funny that because one country gets ranked higher or lower than another that people from that country are either happy or miserable. isn't that just stereotyping? if someone is canadian they are happy, if you are american you are miserable... that is hilarious.

No, but we're generalizing.

CanadianChic
01-23-2008, 10:08 PM
it is funny that because one country gets ranked higher or lower than another that people from that country are either happy or miserable. isn't that just stereotyping? if someone is canadian they are happy, if you are american you are miserable... that is hilarious.

That's not what we said and I'm fairly sure you know that. The U.S. is in the middle of a long drawn out war that many are not in favour of and are living under a president that many do not respect or feel confident in. That is perhaps why some feel as though their fellow countrymen are miserable.

In Canada, our economy is prospering (for the most part), in many places the unemployment rate is decreasing and there has been an increase in foreign travel. Perhaps that is why some feel that Canadians have been under a little less stress recently.

I agree that to state as "all" is a generalization, but I also feel that as a whole, Canadians are a happy bunch. We work hard, we appreciate what we work for, we understand the importance of family and friends and enjoy our resources in relative comfort. We breathe in clean air, drink fresh water and enjoy the fruits of our labours as most others do. I didn't mark the survey - only responded to it. This is of course only my perspective - others may feel that Canucks are a bunch of miserable S.O.B.'s although I think the world's view on us is fairly favourable. ;)

Hot Sauce
01-23-2008, 10:14 PM
Agreed! Canada is truly beautiful, especially Quebec. Parts of Canada are 100 years in the past and other parts are 20 years in the future, it’s quite amazing. And, also, most importantly, Canada did produce Neil Young. :)

Aye, Neil Young, one of my favourite artists.

3 cheers for Canada:
Hip-Hip, Hooray!
Hip-Hip, Hooray!

diegaa
01-24-2008, 03:50 AM
back in spain i felt like i was averagely happy, now that i moved bacl i feel soooo much happy :roll:

Serve em Up
01-24-2008, 04:28 AM
The US should win, we have more cheap TV's , DVD's, video games, shoes, designer handbags than anyone else.

Heck, we even have more handguns than everyone else does.

Why aren't we happy?

Salsa_Lover
01-24-2008, 04:40 AM
I live in the 2nd ranked Country and the 1st ranked City.

And yes, I am happy as a dog with two tails :)

slice bh compliment
01-24-2008, 04:56 AM
America's place on that list is unfortunate. We have some work to do over here.

I feel Canada, at its best, is what our founding fathers had in mind. Monroe Doctrine and all.

I'm told how happy I am...by my fellow Americans. I'm happiest here, but I like Canada and Costa Rica a LOT. And Europe ... and Oz and NZL. I like Ireland a lot, too. And I had great times in Eastern and Southern Europe. If I spoke Greek, I'd probably want to live there. Judging from Aykhan Mammadov, I bet I would love life in the Caucasus.

But America is where my family is, and I feel good about ending up back here.
My family and I have a pretty simple and loving life. We try always to remember how fortunate we are....that makes for a pretty happy life. Best of both worlds, I feel.

Consumerism is really evil, even half a world away. I realize some people feel it is what built this country, but I disagree.

Dedans Penthouse
01-24-2008, 08:10 AM
Im moving to mexico!!!!!!!!
Remember to enroll in one of THEIR very highly rated "ESL" programs (English as a 2nd language). :rolleyes:

soyizgood
01-24-2008, 09:20 AM
hey at least we're not hated by the rest of the world..

True, but many Latinos feel insulted when mistaken for being Mexican. I've even heard other Latinos say things like "We're better than Mexicans".

I'm not hating on Mexico, but their manana approach to life keeps them lower in the totem pole than they should be.

Leelord337
01-24-2008, 03:16 PM
mexico its pretty happy everyone i see is smiling lolz

Everyone Smiles in Nigeria too.

Docalex007
01-24-2008, 03:47 PM
As a general we are incredibly accepting and forgiving, yet can only be pushed so far before we react and then it's no holds barred. ;)

I'm pretty sure the Canadians wouldn't respond much if pushed around by another country, even though you guys drill the most amount of uranium from the ground than anywhere in the world.

Docalex007
01-24-2008, 03:50 PM
Everyone Smiles in Nigeria too.

No that's just their squinting because the sun's so bright.

http://wwwdelivery.superstock.com/WI/223/1119/PC/SuperStock_1119-115.jpg

CanadianChic
01-24-2008, 04:28 PM
I'm pretty sure the Canadians wouldn't respond much if pushed around by another country, even though you guys drill the most amount of uranium from the ground than anywhere in the world.

We have been pushed around by another country for a couple hundred years - they want our vast resources which we have no desire to ever share or sell. Regardless of how many times our ankles are nipped at we will not budge on this and it has caused some serious friction in political relations unfortunately. It is not that we are greedy, quite the opposite in fact.

tbini87
01-24-2008, 07:33 PM
That's not what we said and I'm fairly sure you know that. The U.S. is in the middle of a long drawn out war that many are not in favour of and are living under a president that many do not respect or feel confident in. That is perhaps why some feel as though their fellow countrymen are miserable.

In Canada, our economy is prospering (for the most part), in many places the unemployment rate is decreasing and there has been an increase in foreign travel. Perhaps that is why some feel that Canadians have been under a little less stress recently.

I agree that to state as "all" is a generalization, but I also feel that as a whole, Canadians are a happy bunch. We work hard, we appreciate what we work for, we understand the importance of family and friends and enjoy our resources in relative comfort. We breathe in clean air, drink fresh water and enjoy the fruits of our labours as most others do. I didn't mark the survey - only responded to it. This is of course only my perspective - others may feel that Canucks are a bunch of miserable S.O.B.'s although I think the world's view on us is fairly favourable. ;)

yeah i think i understand what you were saying. i just don't think that the economy, the leader of the country, etc should really be the basis of a person's happiness. if so, when america is thriving as a country we would undoubtedly be the happiest country in the world right? we would have so much money and power and life would be great. i think there is more to happiness than that stuff. i don't know about others, but i can be happy when we have a horrible president, a horrible economical situation, have been attacked by terrorists... etc. i think happiness is personal, and joy is something that others can't take from you. i don't think other people's view should have much of an affect. i will say that most canadians i have met are cool, easy going, fun people. i don't know about the world's view on canada, or even the US for that matter (all i hear is that it must be pretty bad)... but that doesn't affect my happiness at all.

Leelord337
01-24-2008, 07:52 PM
No that's just their squinting because the sun's so bright.



hahaha, well in this pic it shows otherwise. its just there are some nigerian and kenyan exchange students at my university and they seem to always be smiling, as do the asian students.
http://i80.photobucket.com/albums/j162/leelord337/nigeria008.jpg

Mike Bulgakov
01-24-2008, 08:07 PM
I have spent a lot of time in Denmark because of a Danish girlfriend and have been very impressed by the smart and logical approach Danes take in building their society. Starting around October, when the winds, bad weather, and disappearing sun loom, many people get depressed. The Danes do a good job of enduring the winter and on a summer day Copenhagen does seem like a utopia.
http://abcnews.go.com/2020/story?id=4086092&page=1

35ft6
01-24-2008, 08:33 PM
For the most part, Americans are unhappy because of their consumerism.American economy is predicated on us being unhappy... about our car... about how much we make... how much we weigh... etc. But we're just one wise purchase from turning things around, whether it be by buying a lottery ticket, an iPod, or a new pair of shoes. Just look at the commercials for Credit Cards, they encourage you to buy some pretty frivolous crap.

35ft6
01-24-2008, 08:38 PM
From above article: Since a banker can end up taking home as much money as an artist, people don't chose careers based on income or status. "They have this thing called 'Jante-lov,' which essentially says, 'You're no better then anybody else,'" said Buettner. "A garbage man can live in a middle-class neighborhood and hold his head high."

...

In Denmark, you can see trust in action all around you. Vegetable stands run on the honor system, mothers leave babies unattended in strollers outside cafés, and most bicycles are left unlocked. And perhaps the bicycle is the best symbol of Danish happiness. Danes can all afford cars, but they choose bikes -- simple, economical, nonpolluting machines that show no status and help keep people fit. This would be great.

AM28143
01-24-2008, 08:54 PM
American economy is predicated on us being unhappy... about our car... about how much we make... how much we weigh... etc. But we're just one wise purchase from turning things around, whether it be by buying a lottery ticket, an iPod, or a new pair of shoes. Just look at the commercials for Credit Cards, they encourage you to buy some pretty frivolous crap.

That's why I plan on leaving America one of these days. I want to find and eventually understand another perspective on life, and hopefully become happier as a result. I do realize, however, that I can't escape myself by traveling place to place, but maybe I'll change who I am a little bit by breathing some new air into my lungs.

JohnnyCracker
01-24-2008, 09:25 PM
:lol: Of course, Canadians are happy. It's the weed.

tbini87
01-24-2008, 09:46 PM
That's why I plan on leaving America one of these days. I want to find and eventually understand another perspective on life, and hopefully become happier as a result. I do realize, however, that I can't escape myself by traveling place to place, but maybe I'll change who I am a little bit by breathing some new air into my lungs.

change who you hang out with, what you do, and what types of ideas you have on happiness as a start. moving somewhere else might help a bit, by why can't you make a personal choice to change while still living where you live? you don't need the nicest clothes, the newest car, the sexiest body no matter where you live, and no matter what the media tells you. moving away might be nice, getting new perspectives and possibly a slower pace of life, but that won't take away problems.

CanadianChic
01-24-2008, 09:48 PM
That's why I plan on leaving America one of these days. I want to find and eventually understand another perspective on life, and hopefully become happier as a result. I do realize, however, that I can't escape myself by traveling place to place, but maybe I'll change who I am a little bit by breathing some new air into my lungs.

Welcome to Canada!!!! :)

Docalex007
01-25-2008, 05:02 AM
That's why I plan on leaving America one of these days. I want to find and eventually understand another perspective on life, and hopefully become happier as a result. I do realize, however, that I can't escape myself by traveling place to place, but maybe I'll change who I am a little bit by breathing some new air into my lungs.

If you want clean, crips, fresh air to breathe into your lungs I recommend Peking (Beijing), China.

Really really refreshing. :-|

soyizgood
01-25-2008, 04:15 PM
If you want clean, crips, fresh air to breathe into your lungs I recommend Peking (Beijing), China.

Really really refreshing. :-|

LMAO! I'm sure the Olympians will enjoy the change of scenery too.

mrDamien
01-25-2008, 05:05 PM
The worst is from Pakistan. No denial.

Katlion
01-25-2008, 05:10 PM
Good point. Interesting perspective. And, btw, why the new avatar?
Because the other one was creepy... no offense.

wyutani
01-25-2008, 05:18 PM
I wonder what North Korea or Iraq was ranked?

very high//

diegaa
01-25-2008, 08:35 PM
wow, wytunai is back. andres will be pleased. :p

Mike Bulgakov
01-26-2008, 08:31 PM
LMAO! I'm sure the Olympians will enjoy the change of scenery too.
Most people not familiar with thick air, who visit Beijing for more than a few weeks, develop what is known as the "Beijing cough." It is a lot like having severe asthma. The periodic sandstorms from the Gobi desert add to the nightmare air in Beijing. The opening scenes in Blade Runner remind me of a clear day in Beijing.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/graphics/2007/10/26/eachina126.jpg

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/main.jhtml?xml=/earth/2007/10/26/eachina126.xml
For Beijing's Olympics chiefs, the view from the bedroom window this morning could not have been worse.

The day after a special "Environment Forum" dedicated to reassuring the athletics world that it had its air pollution under control, the city awoke to find itself engulfed by a thick pea-souper.

Visibility was reduced to less than 50 yards, flights were delayed, major roads into the city closed and, most importantly, the smog was so serious that children and the elderly were told to stay indoors by the city's weather bureau.

"Wear a face mask if you go out," its head, Sun Jisong, said. His office's report said the air was "heavy with particulate matter".

His warning came amid increasing signs of tension between the city authorities and the International Olympic Committee over whether the air quality will be safe enough for all Olympic events to take place as scheduled this summer.