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sureshs
01-29-2008, 02:19 PM
We all know the main specs of racquets:

Head size
Length
String pattern
Beam width(s)
Static weight
Balance
Swingweight
Flex (RDA number)

But what are the intangibles that are not known directly from the specs? They could also depend on strings in some cases. Some of them are:

Feel
Stability (including torsional stability)
Comfort, specially on off center hits
Size of sweetspot/zone
Location of sweetspot relative to butt of racquet (small head = larger effective reach?)
Aerodynamics and maneuverability
Uniformity of string bed response
Grip shape (rounded, square, ergonomic, slender for women, etc)
Length of grip (suitability for 1 and 2 handed backhands)
Suitability to certain strings
Weight distribution over racquet
Relative flex in different areas (hoop, throat)
Added stiffness in key locations - 3, 9, 12 'o'clock
Control
Precision
Generates a lot of spin
Sweetspot unpredictable/predictable
Cosmetics

Bud
01-29-2008, 02:26 PM
1. Weight distribution (two racquets with the same weight and balance can have the weight distributed differently)

2. Where is racquet flexible (some are flexible in hoop, some in throat)

sureshs
01-29-2008, 02:28 PM
1. Weight distribution (two racquets with the same weight and balance can have the weight distributed differently)

2. Where is racquet flexible (some are flexible in hoop, some in throat)

Added...............

sureshs
01-29-2008, 02:31 PM
Here is an interesting question: what relative weight does someone assign to all the tangibles vs all the intangibles when selecting a racquet? Are they objective about this or more subjective? Do they start with the tangibles and then filter the selection based on intangibles?

fuzz nation
01-29-2008, 02:44 PM
I know that I have a few "deal breakers" among the tangible spec's that are listed on frames; they need to be heavy enough and headlight enough to have familiar behavior for me. There seems to be almost no predicting the feel in a frame, though. I like a more flexible racquet, but that rating can be one of the most misleading things on the whole rap-sheet because, as you've mentioned, you can't tell where the flex is in the frame.

I definately need that subjective experience of a demo and I've also learned to pay closer attention to the beam width of racquets because I personally have the most success with frames that are no more than 19-20 mm. Too wide seems to always be too darn harsh for me.

Pro_Tour_630
01-29-2008, 02:48 PM
hey sureshs I leave work and the whole buzz thread got nuked, file me in what happened in the end?

sureshs
01-29-2008, 02:50 PM
hey sureshs I leave work and the whole buzz thread got nuked, file me in what happened in the end?

That is why I started this thread. Come on over here.

sureshs
01-29-2008, 03:30 PM
Solid
Hollow
Tinny
Stable
Unstable
Twists in your hand
Serving monster
Great feel
No feel
Buttery feel
Harsh
Flexy
Tiny sweetspot
Chick stick
Big sweetspot
Cuts thru the air
Great for slices
Precise
Can place the ball on a dime
Unwieldy
Wobbly
Great for return of serve
Great doubles stick
Rocket launcher
Granny stick

fuzz nation
01-29-2008, 04:10 PM
Looks like you've got a TT thesaurus on your hands.

I'm usually only confident with my description of some intangibles if I can compare something in one racquet to a familiar quantity or feature in another frame that's known to someone. Otherwise, it seems like you almost need to be a poet to really nail some descriptions.

meowmix
01-29-2008, 05:27 PM
Solid
Hollow
Tinny
Stable
Unstable
Twists in your hand
Serving monster
Great feel
No feel
Buttery feel
Harsh
Flexy
Tiny sweetspot
Chick stick
Big sweetspot
Cuts thru the air
Great for slices
Precise
Can place the ball on a dime
Unwieldy
Wobbly
Great for return of serve
Great doubles stick
Rocket launcher
Granny stick

You forgot
Dead
Great Touch
Painting the Lines
Generates a lot of spin
Sweetspot unpredictable/predictable
Sweetspot hot/cold
Generates a lot of kick
Massive Sweetspot

sureshs
01-29-2008, 07:02 PM
^^^^^ added couple of them