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kungfusmkim
01-31-2008, 08:55 PM
Ive heard that Nadal and Fed used to use 4 1/4 grip sizes to produce more spin in their game. I was wondering cause i went to a tennis shop (cant say) and bought a N4 - this was a while ago, just got me curious- and they didnt have my size which was 4 3/8 and they only had 4 1/8 and 4 1/2 so they told me that a good roll of overgrip should make 4/ 1/8 to a 4 3/8. But after hearing it produced more spin im just going over grip it to 4 3/8 or just stay at 4 1/8. By the way im totally confortable with both.

Jonny S&V
01-31-2008, 09:05 PM
Ive heard that Nadal and Fed used to use 4 1/4 grip sizes to produce more spin in their game. I was wondering cause i went to a tennis shop (cant say) and bought a N4 - this was a while ago, just got me curious- and they didnt have my size which was 4 3/8 and they only had 4 1/8 and 4 1/2 so they told me that a good roll of overgrip should make 4/ 1/8 to a 4 3/8. But after hearing it produced more spin im just going over grip it to 4 3/8 or just stay at 4 1/8. By the way im totally confortable with both.

It allows the wrist to move more freely so you can snap it to get a lot of spin.

tlm
01-31-2008, 09:10 PM
I use a 4 1/4 , but with the overgrip it measures 4 3/8. I use a western grip + hit a lot of topspin+ it does seem to help whip the racquet faster.

scowalters
01-31-2008, 09:10 PM
it's also uncomfortable if you have massive hands. go for a size lower, but not all the way to a quarter.

leon505
01-31-2008, 10:12 PM
It may also reduce the strain, but also the power. It could increase the strain, as you are getting a more pronounced whip out of it.

<3Tennis
01-31-2008, 10:32 PM
A smaller grip would allow better control of the racket and much more "whipping" action. But personally I wouldn't suggest a grip too small. I would agree with scowalters and advise to go a size lower (1/8 inch smaller) but no more than 1/4.

CAM178
01-31-2008, 10:42 PM
Keep in mind that it can produce more wrist injuries, too. Some people will start to whip balls a lot more, and subsequently cause a wrist injury.

Alafter
01-31-2008, 10:54 PM
I never notices more spin from smaller grips. And go with comfort.

Thor
02-01-2008, 12:31 AM
It allows the wrist to move more freely so you can snap it to get a lot of spin.

Try to avoid Wrist snapping,its a sure way to get injured

jazar
02-01-2008, 06:05 AM
going with a smaller grip size gives you much less stability. i find going down 1 grip size allows a little more rotation of the wrist, but going down 2 sizes is very unstable

SempreSami
02-01-2008, 06:09 AM
Federer uses grip size 3

Jonny S&V
02-01-2008, 07:39 AM
Try to avoid Wrist snapping,its a sure way to get injured

Well, you know what I meant, right? I'm not advocating snapping your wrist on purpose, just that it is easier to let the wrist go with a smaller grip.

wumanchu23
02-01-2008, 07:48 AM
I use a 4 1/4 , but with the overgrip it measures 4 3/8. I use a western grip + hit a lot of topspin+ it does seem to help whip the racquet faster.

You sure that adding an overgrip changes 4 1/4 to a 4 3/8? I thought an overgrip only adds about 1/16?

Nellie
02-01-2008, 07:49 AM
Also, too small of a grip size may lead to tennis elbow.

Cup8489
02-01-2008, 07:55 AM
You sure that adding an overgrip changes 4 1/4 to a 4 3/8? I thought an overgrip only adds about 1/16?

he must either overwrap it alot, or use a thick overgrip, because most only increase it by 1/16

but yeah, i use a 3 with a grip

Sliceboy2
02-01-2008, 08:17 AM
This is true ...:)

It allows the wrist to move more freely so you can snap it to get a lot of spin.

But might lead you to this ....:cry:

Also, too small of the wrist may lead to tennis elbow.

Try which one works best for you, as long as there is no pain.

In D Zone
02-01-2008, 08:47 AM
Why do some players use overgrip - if you get a racque tthat is 1/8 smaller in grip size then you add an overgrip.

What's the different then ? might as well get original grip size that suites you and not use overgrip.

for me - my normal grip is 3/8. If I get a racquet that is 1/4, I end up adding an overgrip to build up the grip size. For 3/8 grip racquets - I don't add overgrip; I noticed that I had a hard time with control if I added an overgrip.

Cup8489
02-01-2008, 10:48 AM
Why do some players use overgrip - if you get a racque tthat is 1/8 smaller in grip size then you add an overgrip.

What's the different then ? might as well get original grip size that suites you and not use overgrip.

for me - my normal grip is 3/8. If I get a racquet that is 1/4, I end up adding an overgrip to build up the grip size. For 3/8 grip racquets - I don't add overgrip; I noticed that I had a hard time with control if I added an overgrip.

some people have different grip preferences; for instance, i can't hardly stand to play with ANY grip other than Tournagrip, because i've always used it over my duratac replacement grips. it just works, and it's cheaper than replacing the main grip over and over, and its easier to change as well..

but it's about preference.

tlm
02-01-2008, 02:45 PM
I use a tournagrip + yes it adds a full size, i have used 4 1/4 grips on the last couple of racquets i have used. They measured 4 1/4 before + 4 3/8 after the overwrap.All i can tell you is to measure your grip before + after+ that will tell you what size the grip is not what you have heard.

I have a large hand, going by conventional measuring technique i should use a 4 1/2. But i like the feel of the smaller grip so i dropped to 4 3/8 , then after measuring with the overwrap i noticed i gained a whole size so i started using 4 1/4. Which ends up a 4 3/8 , which is one size down from what is the recommended size.

A lot of it is what feels good to you, i know some of these guys that use a 4 5/8 + then add 2 overwraps to make this monster size handle.They say it feels good to them, i think it is a macho thing or something, or that is what they are used to. I think a big grip like that feels like crap, but whatever.

I do know that fed + nadal use small grips+ i dont think they have small hands, so there must be something to it.

RoddickistheMan
02-01-2008, 02:59 PM
Its funny my tennis coach says that now smaller grips are better. He says you get more shot options as well more topspin. He said he wished he started playing tennis with a smaller grip due to thse benefits.

tlm
02-01-2008, 03:07 PM
Your coach is right roddickistheman, there are a lot of things that have changed from the traditional way of thinking.But there are many that can never accept these new ideas, because they have heard the old standards for years.

kungfusmkim
02-01-2008, 04:44 PM
Guys hold on i dont do a federer wrist snapping, flickery forehand my games molded around the william sisters... Foreahnd like them back hand like them serve like them body position like them so i dont really use my wrist often unelss some my opponent gives me a short ball then i kinda do the window washing forehand

afroninja92
02-02-2008, 05:37 AM
Also, too small of a grip size may lead to tennis elbow.
what dosnt lead to tennis elbow now a days?

RoddickistheMan
02-02-2008, 09:33 AM
what dosnt lead to tennis elbow now a days?

seriously it seems like everything leads to TE extended length racquets, polys, big grips small grips, using certain toothpastes, microwaving everything.

vbranis
02-02-2008, 10:09 AM
In the old days (70s,80s), most players used 4 5/8 or 4 3/4 grip sizes. Then came lighter racquets, bigger headsizes, smaller grips, topspin, and western grips.

If you have a western grip, I think it's impossible to play with anything over 4 3/8, and if you have an eastern grip, below 4 3/8 is a no-no.

RestockingTues
02-02-2008, 11:10 AM
I was out for half of the summer because of a wrist injury from trying to "snap" my forehands... Don't go for small grips, I'd seriously recommend against it

theone
02-02-2008, 12:26 PM
In the old days (70s,80s), most players used 4 5/8 or 4 3/4 grip sizes. Then came lighter racquets, bigger headsizes, smaller grips, topspin, and western grips.

If you have a western grip, I think it's impossible to play with anything over 4 3/8, and if you have an eastern grip, below 4 3/8 is a no-no.

Well I don't know.. but I have an eastern grip and when I tried a 4 1/4 the grip frequently twisted in my hand it was literally that small. If you're willing to grip it tight and hit the sweetspot everytime it might be ok. I found it a distraction.

TsongaBonga
02-02-2008, 02:27 PM
I just use a 3. Feels good in my hand. A good player should be able to have spin anyway!