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mcpon
02-09-2008, 11:22 PM
for the democrats?

On yahoo news, it says that Clinton has 1095, Obama - 1070. On CNN, it says that Cllinton - 1100, Obama - 1039?

Steve1954
02-10-2008, 07:57 AM
mcpon,

The truth is, nobody really knows. These delegate counts are estimates. There are pledged delegates who are won in the primaries and caucuses, and there are the superdelegates, who can give nonbinding pledges but who can change their minds right up to the vote at the convention. As for the pledged delegates, delegates are selected in the local caucuses, then they sometimes go to district level, where the delegate totals can change, and then they go to the state level, where the delegate totals can change again. Allocation in a primary also can be very complicated in some states (see California).

There's a nice article on this in the New York Times on February 9, 2008, by Mike McIntyre. He quotes Rhodes Cook, a nonpartisan analyst for the Congressional Quarterly who tried to come up with a way to figure out the actual delegate count. Cook eventually gave up.

Fee
02-10-2008, 10:32 AM
It's like the pricing structure for airplane fares - no one really knows.

lethalfang
02-10-2008, 10:54 AM
for the democrats?

On yahoo news, it says that Clinton has 1095, Obama - 1070. On CNN, it says that Cllinton - 1100, Obama - 1039?

In California, for instance, although all the votes are counted, it is not yet sorted out which votes belong to which precient. That makes a difference in delegate allocation because a bulk of delegate allocation is tied to the precient.