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racingdad23
02-28-2008, 08:55 PM
Im usually stringing the latest wonder Poly for my kid and the way he goes through strings I wouldn't couldn't afford to consider anything else for him. But 'ole Dad here needs a little TLC in these old arms :) Been listening alot to you gut guys talk about how good nat gut is but as with most people the cost is also a factor to me. I've been doing some research on cheaper alternative guts and I know its pretty much like everything else... you get what you pay for.

But I found an obscure natural gut that I'd like to get a opinion on if anyone knows anything about this brand. I did a google search and even found a couple of threads where it was mentioned on the "old board". The brand is Global Gut and this is the company's webpage http://globalgut.com/gut-strings.html Anyone had any experience with this brand? And what are your thoughts on it? Thanks

Steve Huff
02-28-2008, 08:59 PM
They sent me a set once, a couple of years ago. It broke on about the 3rd hit. Needless to say, I didn't add it to my inventory.

ledor
02-29-2008, 12:43 AM
Wilson and Babolat are the only ones you should try. Klip is also good.

ericsson
02-29-2008, 01:04 AM
Wilson and Babolat are the only ones you should try. Klip is also good.

That's not correct, infact i had better experiences with Bow and some Pacific gut.

jayserinos99
02-29-2008, 01:44 AM
racingdad, it depends on what you are looking for in the natural gut. I don't think you can go wrong with any except for those obscure brands and Titan (which are Klip's seconds). Babolat VS is the gold standard and it has the most pop off the stringbed and is very soft. Pacific Toughgut is also very soft but doesn't have that pop off the stringbed like VS; I haven't tried Prime but have heard good things about it. Klip Legend is a little stiffer and is slightly more control oriented but I found it to be good in flexy frames. It's been a while since I hit with BDE but I remember it to be soft and had decent pop. Of course, all of the natural guts I mentioned were all arm-friendly as well.

andreh
02-29-2008, 02:56 AM
VS is my recommendation.

I actually like Bow better. Serious power in the 17g string, but it's not very durable.

origmarm
02-29-2008, 03:00 AM
I haven't heard of this one but I've tried 3 cheaper guts in the past and all have been useless. Might not be the case here but as a general rule I steer clear of cheaper gut as I've had bad experiences. The one I remember was Titan which I thought was rubbish

I use Klip Legend at the moment, its the best price/durability compromise. VS is the best, Wilson is ok, Pacific is ok. Didn't really like Bow. I think all of these are fine though and it comes down to preference and price point.

MEAC_ALLAMERICAN
02-29-2008, 06:08 AM
Wilson and Babolat are the only ones you should try. Klip is also good.

Pacific gut is also very good, but Babolat VS gut is the best.

predrag
02-29-2008, 06:22 AM
Im usually stringing the latest wonder Poly for my kid and the way he goes through strings I wouldn't couldn't afford to consider anything else for him. But 'ole Dad here needs a little TLC in these old arms :) Been listening alot to you gut guys talk about how good nat gut is but as with most people the cost is also a factor to me. I've been doing some research on cheaper alternative guts and I know its pretty much like everything else... you get what you pay for.

But I found an obscure natural gut that I'd like to get a opinion on if anyone knows anything about this brand. I did a google search and even found a couple of threads where it was mentioned on the "old board". The brand is Global Gut and this is the company's webpage http://globalgut.com/gut-strings.html Anyone had any experience with this brand? And what are your thoughts on it? Thanks


That Global Gut sounds fishy just by looking at their site.
Is that the same as Grand Slam Gut?

I recommend Babolat Tonic.
I tested both VS and Tonic at the same time ad coujld feel the difference.
I regularly use Wilson gut as well (because I have a good source and get it at the same price as Tonic), and again, no differences.
Tonic is awesome and price is very affordable.
If you put it in the hybrid you will get the most value for the money.

Regards, Predrag

IanRichardson
02-29-2008, 06:27 AM
do you usually break a lot of strings? If you don't you might find that gut isnt that expensive. Some people have gut jobs last up to a month without breaking provided you dont hit a lot of crazy spin all the time. If you a string breaker I would look away from natural gut and find a synthetic gut.

SteveI
02-29-2008, 07:00 AM
Im usually stringing the latest wonder Poly for my kid and the way he goes through strings I wouldn't couldn't afford to consider anything else for him. But 'ole Dad here needs a little TLC in these old arms :) Been listening alot to you gut guys talk about how good nat gut is but as with most people the cost is also a factor to me. I've been doing some research on cheaper alternative guts and I know its pretty much like everything else... you get what you pay for.

But I found an obscure natural gut that I'd like to get a opinion on if anyone knows anything about this brand. I did a google search and even found a couple of threads where it was mentioned on the "old board". The brand is Global Gut and this is the company's webpage http://globalgut.com/gut-strings.html Anyone had any experience with this brand? And what are your thoughts on it? Thanks

Hey Stan,

I am with Steve Huff on this one. All of cheaper alternative guts I have used (more like tried to use) have been less than worthwhile. Some broke on the stringer, some broke after 5 minutes of hitting and some broke in my bag before I even got to the courts. No way around it, there are not that many good deals in nat gut. Most folks have a fav brand and stick with it. Bow Brand used to offer a great deal on their basic gut and it was very good for the price. Pacific and Klip have nice products as of course Bab. I really do not have arm problems at this point and use a soft co-poly/soft sys gut hybrid with good results.

Regards,
Steve "Freezing my butt off in WNY" I...

YULitle
02-29-2008, 08:09 AM
Wilson and Babolat are the only ones you should try. Klip is also good.

Wilson Gut = made by Babolat ;)

That's not correct, infact i had better experiences with Bow and some Pacific gut.

Word. I enjoyed Pacific Tough Gut immensely. :D

this is a perfect example of the morons ( they know who they are) who think all natural gut is better than any multi. If you think this is a bad gut wait till you try the unwashed amber NG from Pakistan. :shock:

Highly uncalled for. :|

kingdaddy41788
02-29-2008, 08:13 AM
Edit: didn't mean to repeat above post. Apologies.

Pro_Tour_630
02-29-2008, 08:15 AM
Highly uncalled for. :|
my bad scratch one word, the statement still holds water. There have been debates where people have been saying ALL/any natural gut is better than all/any Multi, hands down, they even started a poll on it, sorry I can not quote since thread was nuked. but you get the point. this and many others like this N gut is a perfect example.

YULitle
02-29-2008, 08:17 AM
my bad scratch one word, the statement still holds water. There have been debates where people have been saying ALL/any natural gut is better than all/any Multi, hands down, sorry I can not quote since thread was nuked. but you get the point. this and many others like this N gut is a perfect example.

I'm not saying that I don't agree with the base of your statement. I just think it could have been presented in a civil manner, is all. :D

Pro_Tour_630
02-29-2008, 08:21 AM
I'm not saying that I don't agree with the base of your statement. I just think it could have been presented in a civil manner, is all. :D

my apology

Pro_Tour_630
02-29-2008, 09:36 AM
I am not a mind reader, like some here.

The thread that got nuked, certain posters insisted on ALL natural gut. Hey after all natural gut is natural gut. :confused:

when one generalizes and lumps all natural gut together and makes a bold statement in reference to Multi, they are painting with a broad brush and making ignorant and false statements. After i repeated that not all Natural gut are alike. I guess people do not want to admit when they paint with a broad brush and I more surprised at the people that are defending them.

YULitle
02-29-2008, 10:22 AM
dude, poor, por example. it has like 3 replies. There are lots of better examples to use. As I said, when people talk about gut, they usually mean the ones TW and other typical retailers sell. Most have never tried Pakistany (or some other 3rd world country) gut. When people say any or most gut, they mean the ones we all know/heard about. 9/10 people on here have never even tried those oddball guts made from oddball companies, so again, your arguement holds little water.:)

Do they still rate Pakistan as a 3rd world country? Seems odd. They are fairly advanced. They may be a little lax on their freedom of speech, but... I dunno. Maybe I don't know what it means.

r2473
02-29-2008, 10:32 AM
I recommend Babolat Tonic.
I tested both VS and Tonic at the same time ad coujld feel the difference.
Tonic is awesome and price is very affordable.
If you put it in the hybrid you will get the most value for the money.

Regards, Predrag

Just the comment I was looking for in this thread. A "reliable" poster that has used VS and Tonic side by side.

Thanks,

rorschack
02-29-2008, 11:01 AM
I am not a mind reader, like some here.

The thread that got nuked, certain posters insisted on ALL natural gut. Hey after all natural gut is natural gut. :confused:

when one generalizes and lumps all natural gut together and makes a bold statement in reference to Multi, they are painting with a broad brush and making ignorant and false statements. After i repeated that not all Natural gut are alike. I guess people do not want to admit when they paint with a broad brush and I more surprised at the people that are defending them.

Same old questions/debate/flame war. Is this better than that? No, this is better than that because it's natural gut, the king of all strings...
Klip is better than VS, NO! Pacific iz da king! blah blah blah...

Just letting you guys know, I play with natural gut, multi, and plastic. NO poly because my racquet does not like it and I don't like it either. :)

Natural Guts are good but it's not like you are going to move from a 4.0 to a 6.0 with natural gut on your racquets as compared to when you were playing with Multi. "Oh wait...I'm going to buy myself some VS Gut to replace crappy Klip! Watch! I'll win the next tournament!" yeh right!

Lots of people just make blanketed statements.

Dudes, just get a set or two and do some testing for yourself. In the end, I bet you will be like..."I can't tell the freaking difference"! And "jeez, why am i spending so much money on all of these strings and racquets, yet my game has not improved?" Just stick with whatever you like. Everyone is different.

The secret to better tennis? Just play more and get in better shape. And most important of all, improve the mental aspect of your game. Equipment contributes very little to your game! Well, unless testing strings and racquets is your hobby, and not playing tennis.

Tennis Warehouse is very smart for having an Equipment Forum :) Ka Ching$$$$$$$$$

enough rant...

r2473
02-29-2008, 12:38 PM
Natural Guts are good but it's not like you are going to move from a 4.0 to a 6.0 with natural gut on your racquets as compared to when you were playing with Multi. .

I disagree. I switched and went from a 3.0 to a 6.0 in 2 weeks.

But, I was also drinking a 4 protein shakes everyday and taking creatine by the bottle full. I would only eat live cattle grazing on grass that is a cross of Bluegrass, Kentucky Bluegrass, Featherbed Bent, and Northern California Sensemilia. Vegetables and fruits had to still be on the plant (throw these away if they have been picked or touched with human hands) and be certified, right on the leaves, to have no chemicals or nothing on them. An additional added benefit, is that my sh*t actually now smells like roses.

In addition, I only use racquets that have been blessed by Federer (I send them to a special address and get them back, certified as such). My shoes come from superman, my socks are made of gold, my clothes are made by NASA. And, I get a $1,000 haircut each week.

Anyone who is serious about tennis should do what I did.......start with the natural gut though!!

Pro_Tour_630
02-29-2008, 03:02 PM
Do they still rate Pakistan as a 3rd world country? Seems odd. They are fairly advanced. They may be a little lax on their freedom of speech, but... I dunno. Maybe I don't know what it means.
grand slam gut do a search in this forum grandslamgut had issues very bad, is from Norway:confused: is that a third world country. do they even have cows, or they have sheep :)

Azzurri
02-29-2008, 06:46 PM
Do they still rate Pakistan as a 3rd world country? Seems odd. They are fairly advanced. They may be a little lax on their freedom of speech, but... I dunno. Maybe I don't know what it means.

yes and no, I guess. Seems their economy has gotten stronger with some trade contracts with other countries over the past few years. Almost 30% of the population lives in poverty and yes, their FOS is horrid. I was probably thinking more along the lines of industry when I mentioned Pakistan as a 3rd world country. Some research suggests its still a 3rd world country. Most of the Middle East and Africa is considered 3rd world, so it should not be a big surprise, heck, lots of European countries are considered 2nd world.

from what I Googled, some have it as a 3rd world country and some have it emerging. So I was not that far off.

Azzurri
02-29-2008, 06:49 PM
grand slam gut do a search in this forum grandslamgut had issues very bad, is from Norway:confused: is that a third world country. do they even have cows, or they have sheep :)

We were talking about some sheep gut from Pakistan, please don't make up stuff. I was talking about cheap string from other 3rd world countries, you know nothing about Norway.

Azzurri
02-29-2008, 06:54 PM
Do they still rate Pakistan as a 3rd world country? Seems odd. They are fairly advanced. They may be a little lax on their freedom of speech, but... I dunno. Maybe I don't know what it means.

almost forgot, here is the definition of 3rd world. I just thought it was underdeveloped, lacked technology and had a high poverty rate..sort of close::)

http://www.thirdworldtraveler.com/General/ThirdWorld_def.html

by the way, I may have used a politically incorrect word..its not 3rd world country, but DEVELOPING country.:oops:

maddog2020
02-29-2008, 08:04 PM
Im usually stringing the latest wonder Poly for my kid and the way he goes through strings I wouldn't couldn't afford to consider anything else for him. But 'ole Dad here needs a little TLC in these old arms :) Been listening alot to you gut guys talk about how good nat gut is but as with most people the cost is also a factor to me. I've been doing some research on cheaper alternative guts and I know its pretty much like everything else... you get what you pay for.

But I found an obscure natural gut that I'd like to get a opinion on if anyone knows anything about this brand. I did a google search and even found a couple of threads where it was mentioned on the "old board". The brand is Global Gut and this is the company's webpage http://globalgut.com/gut-strings.html Anyone had any experience with this brand? And what are your thoughts on it? Thanks


If you don't want to break too many strings, but want to feel many of the benefits of natural gut then you could try a hybrid. I have a K6.1 95 and have been using Luxilon Alupower 16 in my mains (at 52) and Babolat VS 17 at 56 in my crosses. Yes - I know the norm is to string the mains higher than the crosses, but I LOVE this string job. With this I get about 30 hours or more out of each frame (before the mains break - never the crosses) vs less than 2 with a basic string like topspin. The really weird thing is that if I use NXT in the identical setup the NXT breaks after less than 10 hours.....

Anyway. I think that this hybrid gives the power and control of the poly with the softness and feel of the gut (obviously it's not as soft as a pure gut job, but I don't get any tennis elbow problems).

Anyway - just a suggestion.

leonardtay
03-01-2008, 12:52 AM
If you don't want to break too many strings, but want to feel many of the benefits of natural gut then you could try a hybrid. I have a K6.1 95 and have been using Luxilon Alupower 16 in my mains (at 52) and Babolat VS 17 at 56 in my crosses. Yes - I know the norm is to string the mains higher than the crosses, but I LOVE this string job. With this I get about 30 hours or more out of each frame (before the mains break - never the crosses) vs less than 2 with a basic string like topspin. The really weird thing is that if I use NXT in the identical setup the NXT breaks after less than 10 hours.....

Anyway. I think that this hybrid gives the power and control of the poly with the softness and feel of the gut (obviously it's not as soft as a pure gut job, but I don't get any tennis elbow problems).

Anyway - just a suggestion.

Misconception highlighted in red. The poly is always strung lower in tension than the multi or gut as the stiffness of the poly would prevent the gut from stretching properly on impact and result in a dead feeling string job.

Pro_Tour_630
03-01-2008, 02:57 AM
I've been doing some research on cheaper alternative guts and I know its pretty much like everything else... you get what you pay for.



We were talking about some sheep gut from Pakistan, please don't make up stuff. I was talking about cheap string from other 3rd world countries, you know nothing about Norway.



NO, we were talking about NG like Global gut ( sheep/lamb NG from INDIA) and its likes, grandslamgut (sheep/lamb NG) is yet another cheap NG that does not make it to the courts it snaps while you are stringing it and in your bag. Oh and yes did I mention it is from NORWAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you generalizing again and saying all crappy NG comes from 3rd world countries is very telling

Gee I wounder why TW never carried it Hmmmmmm?!?!?!


Hi. My name is Mark Dzulynsky. We are the manufacturer and US distributor of Grand Slam Gut.

First of all, I would like to apologize to all of you for the bad batch of GSG that was sent to TW in June of 2005. TW was great in that they gave us a chance to work with them – they tested GSG to the hilt for many weeks and the results were superb, but when we sent our next shipment to them, our GSG was crap. Since then, we have upped our quality control 500% at the factory to its highest possible degree. Each set is tested before it departs the factory. No, we are still not perfect, but we are trying harder and harder every day. At $14 plus shipping, you have a chance to try some of the best gut in the industry and yes, GSG is better than most guts in feel, in texture and in durability. You have nothing to lose by trying GSG since we support every set that you purchase.

I sincerely hope that TW satisfactorily compensated those that purchased GSG. If not, please e-mail or call me and let’s work everything out. We stand behind ever set of GSG 110%.

If you want to talk about GSG, I am at (715) 366-4333. If you want to e-mail me I am tennis@wctc.net. Otherwise, many players and shops are using and carrying GSG and enjoying it. Please see their comments on e-bay. Just type in “Grand Slam Gut” in e-bay’s search engine and read all the testimonials from youth to semi-pro. Last but not least, try it. If you don’t like it, I will give you your money back. Again, please accept my humblest apologies for the crappy GSG that we sent to TW.

Mark Dzulynsky, GSG

Pro_Tour_630
03-01-2008, 03:20 AM
I've been doing some research on cheaper alternative guts and I know its pretty much like everything else... you get what you pay for.



Then there is TiTAN which is a cheap KNOCK OFF or shall I say SECONDS ( that never made quality control) from KLIP. WOW there you have it seconds from a second rate company how good may that be:confused: oh and did I say they are from....................... Australia:shock:

Not to worry the Italians did contribute to the tennis stringing world, you know the illegal spaghetti stringing wrapped around NG, why does everything illegal is associated with Italy, I am not generalizing am I?

racingdad23
03-01-2008, 04:57 AM
NO, we were talking about NG like Global gut ( sheep/lamb NG from INDIA) and its likes,

Global Gut tennis string is claimed to be made from Cattle. Their musical gut is made from sheep.

Pro_Tour_630
03-01-2008, 05:25 AM
Global Gut tennis string is claimed to be made from Cattle. Their musical gut is made from sheep.
just like all manufacturers they do not tell you everything. Besides whatever it is made from even "cat" gut:) for that matter after many testing and experience with all these value strings, you said it best, YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR.

bsandy
03-03-2008, 08:29 AM
just like all manufacturers they do not tell you everything. Besides whatever it is made from even "cat" gut:) for that matter after many testing and experience with all these value strings, you said it best, YOU GET WHAT YOU PAY FOR.

A full grown cat's small intestine is only 4-6 ft long. You can't make tennis string from it.

. . . Bud

YULitle
03-03-2008, 02:19 PM
yep :D I'll repeat. You can't glue two pieces of cat gut end to end.

Pro_Tour_630
03-03-2008, 03:50 PM
A full grown cat's small intestine is only 4-6 ft long. You can't make tennis string from it.

. . . Bud
really gee I did not know that, dude I was joking

Babb
03-04-2008, 12:54 PM
^^^^
Nice save... ;)

Babb
03-04-2008, 01:13 PM
I disagree. I switched and went from a 3.0 to a 6.0 in 2 weeks.

But, I was also drinking a 4 protein shakes everyday and taking creatine by the bottle full. I would only eat live cattle grazing on grass that is a cross of Bluegrass, Kentucky Bluegrass, Featherbed Bent, and Northern California Sensemilia. Vegetables and fruits had to still be on the plant (throw these away if they have been picked or touched with human hands) and be certified, right on the leaves, to have no chemicals or nothing on them. An additional added benefit, is that my sh*t actually now smells like roses.

In addition, I only use racquets that have been blessed by Federer (I send them to a special address and get them back, certified as such). My shoes come from superman, my socks are made of gold, my clothes are made by NASA. And, I get a $1,000 haircut each week.

Anyone who is serious about tennis should do what I did.......start with the natural gut though!!
Ah, that was a good laugh :)



But anyway, I think it is needless to start a new thread to ask one simple question. What is the cheapest gut you've used that is still noticeably better than the best multis? I'm thinking Legend, but is there anything cheaper that is still good stuff?

Pro_Tour_630
03-04-2008, 01:18 PM
Ah, that was a good laugh :)



But anyway, I think it is needless to start a new thread to ask one simple question. What is the cheapest gut you've used that is still noticeably better than the best multis? I'm thinking Legend, but is there anything cheaper that is still good stuff?
the cheapest for me was Bow 18g when it was $20, it was OK, crisp but broke easily, I prefer NGR18g. now that BOW 18g is $30 no banana , when Klip Legend makes a really thin 18g that is under 1.20mm under $20 then we are talking until then..........

Lambsscroll
03-08-2008, 12:22 PM
Ah, that was a good laugh :)



But anyway, I think it is needless to start a new thread to ask one simple question. What is the cheapest gut you've used that is still noticeably better than the best multis? I'm thinking Legend, but is there anything cheaper that is still good stuff?

BDE rally gut. Hands down.

Babb
03-08-2008, 12:26 PM
^^^
That's what I had been thinking, but I've never even used gut before. Thanks.

2handsbothsides
03-08-2008, 04:32 PM
BDE rally gut. Hands down.

Can you compare BDE rally to Babolat tonic, Klip legend or BDE performance?

Lambsscroll
03-09-2008, 05:26 AM
[QUOTE=2handsbothsides;2146189]Can you compare BDE rally to Babolat tonic, Klip legend or BDE performance?[/QUOT

I can only compare Tonic and BDE rally. Both played great. Seem to fray the same. Just one is cheaper is all.

Lambsscroll
03-09-2008, 05:36 AM
I will tell you that one of my rackets has a full BDE rally 15L string job. To my amazement the tension holds rather well even after weeks of hard hitting. It hasn't snapped even after me moving the strings back in place over and over again. The fraying is hardly noticeable also. I still think its the best string for the money at TW.

coloskier
03-10-2008, 06:39 AM
That's not correct, infact i had better experiences with Bow and some Pacific gut.

Pacific Gut is great, as long as you don't play in colder climates. You will be asking for trouble if you play in temps lower than 55F. It will explode in your racket. I've got two rackets sitting at home to prove it. VS will last better. But no gut job is going to last over two months if you play 3 times a week.

racingdad23
04-08-2008, 12:04 PM
Well Glocal Gut sent me a couple of samples (2 packs) of their 16g natural gut. I opened the first pack and as I uncoiled it gently I noticed a partially unraveled section (3/8ths wide) in the middle of the string. Since I was just putting it in the crosses I knew I would have at least one set to try. Sucks that its right in the middle of the second half.

I've strung well over 100+ racquets but this is my first gut job so I read the "Dont bust a gut" article on the RSI website and I think it helped alot but it had me worried that it was sooo fragile so I took my time and did my pulls very gently (took 45 minutes for the crosses). I got to the very last cross and freaking kinked it. Got it unkinked with no visible damage and tied it off. A couple of things....this was labeled 16g but it was very fat and I thought it was/seemed larger than 15g syn gut and the unraveled section kinda concerned me but what the hell...the strings were free. With the couple of people that had actually tried this brand giving it bad marks I fully expected it to break midway through stringing :) Overall I'm not impressed with the appearance of it but I really have nothing to compare to. I have another set of it and a set of BDE but didnt want to take the BDE out of the package just to compare the two.

Its strung up in my M-fil 300 with Big Ace 18g mains @57 and the Gut @59. It stormed this morning and the courts are wet so didnt get to try it today. But looking forward to maybe tonight or tomorrow evening. All I know is this stuff needs to play really good because I'm not sure if all the hassle, expense and extra care it took to string it is really worth it.

flash9
04-08-2008, 12:19 PM
....this was labeled 16g but it was very fat and I thought it was/seemed larger than 15g syn gut and the unraveled section kinda concerned me ...

This description sounds a lot like Grand Slam Gut. The string was much thicker then it reported gauge and was extremely prone to kinking and premature breaking. Was there a return address on the package? Where were the strings shipped from?

But, as you said it was FREE.

racingdad23
04-08-2008, 01:04 PM
Where were the strings shipped from?

lol...Pakistan

I posted the link to this company in the original post. My expectations are not high when I hit the court. I just hate to waste a perfectly good 1/2 set of Big Ace if this stuff doesnt last more than a few hours.

MAX PLY
04-08-2008, 01:04 PM
Like most things, you will get what you pay for. And, once you have chosen to play with natural gut strings, you have entered an expensive zone. While one gut may last a little longer than another gut, you are really buying gut for the "feel" and not the durability. The premium products (Babolat, Pacific and Wilson) will all play well (which one you will prefer will clearly be a personal preference--I prefer the "feel" of Pacific 17g but I have not been unhappy with Babolat's 17g when the Pacific was not available). What you will find in the premium natural gut strings is consistency--there will not be a vast difference from one set of strings to another. When I have tried to save a little and purchase a cheaper product, the consistency between sets was not there. HOWEVER, that may not bother everyone--the truth is that even cheaper natural gut (to a point) plays pretty well. The problem arises when you treat yourself to a taste of premium string, it's hard to go back. Heck, they are all expensive--try a couple and see what you like and go with it--if you've gone to natural gut, cost really isn't your issue--only relative cost is.

1012007
04-08-2008, 01:14 PM
How did you get it for free?

What do you say to them?:)

racingdad23
04-08-2008, 01:24 PM
All I told them was that I was interested in their product but was concerned over the quality of an unknown brand.

Last I heard they were no longer sending any free sets but had samples available at a very low price. ($4)

1012007
04-08-2008, 01:25 PM
Ok thanks just emailed them. Is it good playability or is it what you get for $4

Casey10s
04-08-2008, 01:33 PM
I started to use BDE Performance 17g a few years when there was a big price difference between it and VS. Most of that edge has gone away with the difference now being about $5. Just ordered some VS to start trying it.

One of the people I hit with who has used both says that VS plays a little better. When the cost difference was big, BDE was a good choice. Now, might as well play with VS.

racingdad23
04-08-2008, 01:39 PM
I went ahead and broke out the BDE to compare to. The difference is like night and day. Both claim to be 16g. The BDE is smaller diameter (like 16 should be) and smoother feeling. Looks like a much better product.

racingdad23
05-07-2008, 06:41 PM
I'm going to revive this to comment on our experience so far with Global Gut.

Regardless of how un-appealing the appearance of Global Gut was it has performed very decent. Now right up front I want to say I personally wasnt overly impressed after two hours of light play myself. (but I may try it again at lower tension) I found it to be just average and I was expecting more. My string breaker junior picked up my M-Fil and said he wanted to try it. I almost cringed since I wasnt done testing it. I figured he'd have these cheap *** strings broke in a hour or two. His usual setup is Blue gear and Lightning and said there was a very noticable difference in spin and some serious pop. He liked it so much used them this entire past week and chose to play with my gut strung M-Fil instead of his usual T-fight at state qualifying this past week. So far the strings have two hours of light hitting with me, with him 8 hrs of practice plus 10 sets of doubles and 6 sets of singles. strings are just barely starting to fray.

while I'm not going to jump on the gut wagon just yet, I do want to say that for about $12 a set (in quantity) Global Gut "may" be worth trying out if you want to take a chance of a "cheap natural gut"