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Doc Hollidae
03-04-2008, 03:01 PM
Background:
4.5-5.0 player. Counter puncher/All court singles. Serve and volley doubles. Flat groundies. 2HBH and SW Forehand. Previous stick: Radical Twin Tube Tour OS.

Initial Impressions:
You immediately notice the weight on this racket. At 11.6 oz unstrung, this racket isn't for the weak. However, it swings smooth and much faster than rackets of similar weight. It's about the same weight as my weighted Radicals, but much more head speed. The swing speed between the Tour and Pro Tour is pretty close, even though the Pro Tour is heavier unstrung than the Tour is strung. The grip size is larger than any other of the Prince rackets out there. The both the Tour and Pro Tour are larger than the Speedport grip sizes. I now will most likely abandon playing with overgrips due to this. I initially strung it at 59/60 with Pro Hurricane 17g mains and Duraflex 17g crosses. I've since restrung it with Blue Gear 17g mains and Duraflex 17g at 60/62. The Blue Gear setup made me wonder why people would even want to buy Pro Hurricane.

Groundstrokes:
No one will ever be able to convice me that there's a better racket from the baseline than the Radical Twin Tube Tour, not even the Ozone Pro Tour. However I'd put the Ozone Pro Tour in my "Fave 5." Stability never crossed my mind after feeling the weight of this racket. I knew this racket would have the necessary plow through when needed. Power for this racket is definitely a step up from what I'm used to with my Radicals. However it's a pleasant and controllable boost in power. Depth is very easy and you can really whip the racket around thanks to the O ports. Even through it's a dense pattern, spin is accessible and you can hit some really heavy balls with a ton of spin. I felt much more confident with my groundies with dense pattern of the Pro Tour versus the open pattern of the Tour. This racket hit topspin, slice, and flat all very well and I had no complaints. However, remember that I prefer a dense pattern to an open pattern.

Volleys:
Effortless. Controlled. Manueverable. What else do you need from a stick for volleying? The added stiffness and weight was really an improvement from the Ozone Tour. While I struggled to volley with the OT, I didn't skip a beat with the OPT. I was really impressed with some of the volleys I was able to pick up off my shoe laces and keep the ball low. The OPT did extremely well with low volleys and keeping the ball low. When facing pace, the OPT stays stable and is great in reaction volley exchanges. My one gripe about the Radicals at the net was that they were very sluggish when it came to reaction volley exchanges and I'd lose put away power at times due to the heft. The OPT keeps the same stability, but is much more manueverable with no absence of power during quick exchanges. Overheads are a dream with this racket. I hate hitting overheads and have very little confidence in my own, but this is no longer the case. You can really crush overheads with this racket though.

Serves:
The main reason I decided to abandon the Radicals was to get more pop on my serve. I hit some nice kickers with my Radicals, but I really didn't have enough pop to be hurting people at the 5.0 level. Serving with the OPT definitely is an improvement. You can really crank out some flat heaters with this racket, especially with the mass behind the racket and the head speed easily created. Once you get your swing going, the O Ports and weight do the rest. With the heft and ease of head speed, kickers were much heavier and were bouncing higher than average. Slice was good and had a little more pace than my usual slice serve. Really enjoyed serving with this racket and my arm didn't tire out like with the Radicals. I was able to sustain pace and depth a lot longer than with my Radicals with much more power and control.

Serve Returns:
Once again the weight of the racket, but low swingweight really shined here. Stability and plow through were there. I was able to keep the ball deep and aggressively block the ball back. The additional head speed from the O Port was very nice, as I was able to take a bigger cut at faster paced serves. The extra swing speed and manueverability really helped when late on the ball too.

Overall:
Definitely a player's racket. The heft alone is something that people should be cautious of. Despite the low swingweight and head speed, you can definitely feel the static weight of the racket. However, it does swing lighter than it actually is. While I thought the Ozone Tour was a great racket, the Ozone Pro Tour was an improvement in every category for me. This will be my new stick for a long time.

Comparisons:
I really liked both version of the Ozone Tour. However, the Pro Tour fit my game much more than the Ozone Tour. Had I not known that the Pro Tour was going to come out, I would have bought the Ozone Tour after my first night of demoing. While the Ozone Pro Tour is definitely more demanding due to its weight, the Ozone Tour is a great racket for those looking for an all around racket with player's racket qualities minus the heft of a player's racket. At 11.5 oz, it was very comfortable and stable. I really liked the weight of Ozone Tour more than the Ozone Pro Tour, but wanted that extra stiffness and the dense pattern.

In regards to the SP Tour, it plays very similar. IMO, is a compromise between the OT and the OPT. It has the open pattern and weight closer to the OT, but it's stability, stiffness, balance is similar to the OPT. I really enjoyed the SP Tour and the SP feeling is different than the O ports. I felt like the SP Tour felt much more like a traditional racket and I didn't notice the aerodynamic effect of the speedports like I did with the O ports.

For those that liked the Ozone Tour, but want something stiffer and can't handle the weight of the OPT, try the SP Tour.

Gonefishing2007
03-04-2008, 03:12 PM
Thanks for the awesome review! After reading your review, I gotta give OPT a try.

jayrlo
03-04-2008, 03:40 PM
Great review. If you were to compare this feel to head rackets, what would it be?

El Guapo
03-04-2008, 08:09 PM
I really liked the weight of Ozone Tour more than the Ozone Pro Tour, but wanted that extra stiffness and the dense pattern.

Sounds like you should get the OPTT. The weight of the OT with the string pattern of the OPT.

NLBwell
03-04-2008, 09:06 PM
Thanks for the review.

Chauvalito
03-04-2008, 09:12 PM
Great review.

Doc, could you comment on the feel of the racket? I have previously hit with O rackets and they have felt disconnected and not as solid compared to other sticks of similar weight.

Doc Hollidae
03-04-2008, 10:47 PM
Great review.

Doc, could you comment on the feel of the racket? I have previously hit with O rackets and they have felt disconnected and not as solid compared to other sticks of similar weight.

Very solid and very good feel. Almost like a stiffer TT Radical Tour. Very soft, but much firmer in flex.

Doc Hollidae
03-04-2008, 10:48 PM
Great review. If you were to compare this feel to head rackets, what would it be?

Very solid like the older Head Twin Tube rackets. Very solid on contact, but a soft, plush feel.

Slaz
03-05-2008, 09:01 AM
Great review, as usual, Doc !

I'll playtest the SP tour this week end and next week i playtest the ozone Pro tour team (310g 18*20).

I'll post the review here too :)

El Guapo
03-05-2008, 09:15 AM
Great review, as usual, Doc !

I'll playtest the SP tour this week end and next week i playtest the ozone Pro tour team (310g 18*20).

I'll post the review here too :)

The OPTT is the one that I'm looking forward to. Import only as Prince has no plans of selling them in the US.

Peter Szucs
03-05-2008, 09:34 AM
Doc, have you ever tried the O3 Mid? I used to play with it but to me it felt unstable and hollow in feel... how would you compare the two?

Doc Hollidae
03-05-2008, 09:54 AM
Doc, have you ever tried the O3 Mid? I used to play with it but to me it felt unstable and hollow in feel... how would you compare the two?

Never played with the mid. Sorry.

Gee
03-07-2008, 06:06 AM
Hi Doc,

Can you tell how the OPT compares to the Head FXP Radical Tour?
And especially concerning net game (because I dislike the FXP Rad Tour in that respect).

Offshore
03-07-2008, 07:15 AM
I demo'd this racquet for about three weeks and tried everything from leading the hoop in several ways to trying three different string setups, but nothing really made this racquet work for me. I didn't find it had the stability for 5.0+ banging and I also could not get the service pop/control to dial in - it just felt weak. I am not a fan of the O-Ports so maybe it is psychological:confused:. OK racquet but it didn't really shine at anything. Different strokes as they say:)

Doc Hollidae
03-07-2008, 08:05 AM
Hi Doc,

Can you tell how the OPT compares to the Head FXP Radical Tour?
And especially concerning net game (because I dislike the FXP Rad Tour in that respect).

Never played with the FXP Radical Tour sorry.

slice bh compliment
03-07-2008, 08:28 AM
Nice stick. Doesn't even look like a Prince, judging by the headshape.

chizzle
03-07-2008, 12:28 PM
Great review.

I love changing it up, so I'm retiring my nCode95s for the Ozone Tour MP.

It is taking some getting used to, but I really like it. I went with over the pro b/c I wanted the open string pattern. I have since added some weight to it as it was really a bit light for me.

Each time out, I'm getting more and more comfortable with it.

Applesauceman
03-12-2008, 07:39 AM
My POPTs came in yesterday and I was able to hit with them last night. Aside from the grip feeling a bit larger than normal, I was very pleased with these racquets. It's like having the weight of the Prince Tour Diablo Mid, the string pattern of the Prince Rebel MP, and the headsize of the Prince Tour Diablo MP...simply awesome!

I fixed the grip size problem by regripping the handle for a lefty, pulling the grip on the handle a bit tighter, and then adding an overgrip...perfect!

I even went down a grip size from my previous racquets. My club pro suggested that I try a smaller grip size to reduce my dependency on a "death grip".

Peter Szucs
03-12-2008, 08:16 AM
Can anyone compare the O3 Mid and the OPT with regards to feel, balance, power and control and spin? I found the O3 Mid to be very muted and probably because of that i never felt comfortable when hitting out on if i am going to miss it or not. i guess that the bigger head along with the denser string pattern and the less flex of the OPT changes the way it feels. appreciate any feedback.

1012007
03-12-2008, 12:57 PM
Great review and looking 4ward to slaz's review too:)

El Guapo
03-12-2008, 01:11 PM
No OPTT reviews yet?

racquetfreak
03-12-2008, 03:10 PM
great review - definitely want to try this one out.

jace112
04-28-2008, 01:40 AM
Thanks Doc for this review.

I gues we have a lot in common. About 4.5 or 5.0 level. After demoing a lot of racquets, I'm currently playing with Radical TT OS. I play S&V right now, and I go to the net on each short ball. The Radical is amazing : very low flex (56), dense string pattern, nice weight (12 oz strung), SW not that big (320)... The power only comes from the big headsize, and it's easy to handle. Mine is currently strung with some polys at low tension (60 lbs).

I have 2 concerns about it :

- I do have only one frame and it's really hard to find another one at a good price / in a good condition
- My serve lacks of power and spin (comparing to modern racquets)

According to you, the OPT can be a good replacement for my Head.

I'll try to demo it ASAP, but the Pro version is hard to get on demo in France.

What I really liked with my Radical, is the feeling when hitting near the tip of the frame : it's very soft, flexible and on low balls, it keeps tons of control. I can really place the ball wherever I want. Spin is so so, but doesn't bother me too much. As far as I can go quickly to the net, there is no pb.

I played with the 03 Tour. It's a very good racquet. I liked the muted response, but it was no as sweet as the Radical. Not as flexy, specially when hitting near the tip. I don't know if it's more about the string patern or due to the higher flex. It's a string eater too.

Do you feel the OPT, or even SPT or the OPTTeam feel more like our beloved Radical for this kind of shots?

What I like about this new Prince, is the big headsize with a low flex. The new Radical OS are too light and powerful.

Doc Hollidae
04-28-2008, 11:42 AM
In short, the OPT is a stiffer Radical with more pop. It's still pretty flexy, but no where near the flexibility of the Radical TT Tours. I believe the flex of the Radical TT Tours is in the mid 50's, while the OPT is 65. I haven't seen the specs for the OPTT so I don't know what the flex is, but I'd assume that'd be closer to what you're looking for.

El Guapo
04-28-2008, 12:04 PM
OPTT is the same flex as the OT.

jace112
04-28-2008, 12:57 PM
OPTT is the same flex as the OT.
Someone posted the specs:

Ozone Tour Lite, 645 cm2, 68,6 cm, 280 gr. 16 x 18 string
Ozone Tour OS, 690 cm2, 69,8 cm, 300 gr. 16 x 19 string
Ozone Pro Tour Team, 645 cm2, 68,6 cm, 310 gr. 18 x 20 string
Ozone Pro Tour MP, 645 cm2, 68,6 cm, 328 gr. 18 x 20 string

The stiffness of the original O3 Tour, 16x18 is 61,
The stiffness of the Pro Tour MP 18 x 20 is 65
The stiffness of the Pro Tour Team 18*20 is 60

So I guess the OPTT should be worth a demo, but even in Europe it's really hard to find!

jace112
04-28-2008, 12:59 PM
In short, the OPT is a stiffer Radical with more pop. It's still pretty flexy, but no where near the flexibility of the Radical TT Tours. I believe the flex of the Radical TT Tours is in the mid 50's, while the OPT is 65. I haven't seen the specs for the OPTT so I don't know what the flex is, but I'd assume that'd be closer to what you're looking for.
Thanks, Doc. Yes you are right. My Radical was measured at 56 RA. I'll try to measure the O3 Tour I played with. But it felt much more than the 60 RA rated. (specially near the tip, thing that I dislike)

Doc Hollidae
04-28-2008, 04:28 PM
Thanks, Doc. Yes you are right. My Radical was measured at 56 RA. I'll try to measure the O3 Tour I played with. But it felt much more than the 60 RA rated. (specially near the tip, thing that I dislike)

One thing I thought about that might help you.

The one thing I hated most about the Radical TT Tour was it's netplay. I always felt like it was the best baseline racket known to mankind, and still firmly believe that. The flex of the TT Tour allowed me tons of control and forgiveness. I always felt that due to the flex, any ball I was late on, I could "pull" back into the court.

When I first demoed the Ozone Tour. I pretty much experienced the same thing. Loved the groundies, but hated the volleys. For me I attribute that to the low flex. The low flex doesn't suit my style of volleying and doesn't feel stable enough at the net. To solve that issue with the TT Tours, I added ~3-4 grams of lead at 2 and 10 and it solved the flimsy issue.

In short, you'll probably like the Ozone Pro Team Tour if you can get your hands on one and the flex rating is as posted in this thread.

klementine
05-01-2008, 02:17 AM
so are these new prince grips so much bigger that one would have to consider dropping down a size - 4-3/8< 4-1/4 - if one wishes to wrap a tourna grip around it? by the way- thanks for the review- you really have me wanting a demo.

Izeta
05-22-2008, 11:24 AM
Thanks Doc for this review.

Actually I am using Aeropro Drive with contex and planning to buy the Pro Tour. How would you compare the two?

J011yroger
06-14-2008, 07:30 PM
Mr. Prince asked me to try one of these out and let him know what I thought.

Pretty darn nice racquet, I think a lot of guys in the 35-55 year old 4.0-5.0 NTRP range would really like this thing.

I whacked about 5 mins of groundies with it, before playing my practice match (with my normal racquets) and then just before I left, I decided to hit a serve with it.

Going to hit it a bit more before tomorrow's practice match.

J