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Pro_Tour_630
03-06-2008, 12:57 PM
I think it is time we have our own club. We are a minority and we need to be heard. so companies can make more strings for us, (well at least we hope):cry:

All 18g related issues raised in this thread; 18g classification etc...

From tension to type, to different Mains and crosses etc....

Please tell us what 18g strings you like what 18g strings you are thinking of installing. include age level of play and frame of choice

Oh and don't forget to chime in on how some companies are labeling in upwards of 1.23mm strings as 18g :twisted::twisted:

Who do they think they are fooling?!?!?!?!

So, 18g members, let us raise our sticks and UNITE!!!!!!!

Pro_Tour_630
03-06-2008, 01:19 PM
this link is just the threads that have 18g in title :cry:
enjoy reading



http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/search.php?searchid=1886625&pp=25

miniRafa386
03-06-2008, 01:33 PM
1.18 Sppp.

nickb
03-06-2008, 01:56 PM
Is this just for multi users ? lol

Pro_Tour_630
03-06-2008, 02:41 PM
Is this just for multi users ? lol
this is for everyone, you are welcome to give us your input,

AmericanTemplar
03-06-2008, 02:59 PM
Pro Supex Big Ace Micro User here. 1.15mm!!

Pro_Tour_630
03-06-2008, 04:01 PM
Pro Supex Big Ace Micro User here. 1.15mm!!
I have not the slightest clue about Pro supex, I differ to nickB,

Azzurri
03-06-2008, 04:10 PM
Is this just for multi users ? lol

c'mon Nick, leave him alone. He is trying to fit in...:)

I support you PT630!!

Is a 17 main and 18g cross a good idea? what would a 18g cross do?

AmericanTemplar
03-06-2008, 04:10 PM
Oh sorry--I didn't realize that I was supposed to tell you about the string:

Pro Supex Big Ace Micro is a soft poly. It gives some of the spin that poly is known for, while still giving enough touch at net for someone like me who plays a lot of s&v.

Pro_Tour_630
03-06-2008, 04:26 PM
Oh sorry--I didn't realize that I was supposed to tell you about the string:

Pro Supex Big Ace Micro is a soft poly. It gives some of the spin that poly is known for, while still giving enough touch at net for someone like me who plays a lot of s&v.
what frame and tension?

I tried http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/descpageACPOLYFIB-PHT18.html which was supposedly a soft POLY in 18g, sadly I did not care for it,

c'mon Nick, leave him alone. He is trying to fit in...:)

I support you PT630!!

Is a 17 main and 18g cross a good idea? what would a 18g cross do?
thanks lappano, I got used to Nick, not to worry, he was just joking. You are correct we are outcasts and are trying to fit in but never underestimate the underdog

As for your question. I have a modified PT630 with 16g big banger and 18g gosen that I love, yes 18g cross is a good idea IMO, depends if it holds tension and does not eat into your mains, certain ones , depends on how you hit

Noisy Ninja
03-06-2008, 04:37 PM
Another PS Big Ace Micro user here.

LanEvo
03-06-2008, 04:40 PM
how does the big ace micro play? and how is it compared to the regular big ace?

jmverdugo
03-06-2008, 04:56 PM
Kirsh. competition 1.20 on the mains. On the Xs pretty much whatever i have around @ 56Lb. RDS001MP, Baseliner and sometimes go to the net.

I really like this string, is good form the baseline and good on the net. Flat serves are a bomb and the sound of it is amazing. Imo is a soft poly.

iplaybetter
03-06-2008, 04:58 PM
i have used 18g redcode, that about it though

ambro
03-06-2008, 05:06 PM
Soon to be user of 1.20 Klip Excellerator hybrid. Currently using the 1.25, but I will be using 1.20 soon. I'll be using it in a Wilson nBlade 98 frame, so it won't get torn up as much as it would in a open patterned frame. Nice club to be a part of.

thomasdoan
03-06-2008, 05:11 PM
I use Big Banger Ace 1.12mm on a Prince NXG midsize. Looking foward to trying Big Banger TiMo 1.10mm. Can anyone give some comparisons?

Pro_Tour_630
03-06-2008, 07:26 PM
well TW has a category for us which is a start

http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/catthumbs.html?CREF=66

around 40 types

though many are true 18g me thinks some should not be in this category, anyone care to point them out? that are suppose to be 17gL thanks, I know some were even discontinued that were pretty outrageous for an 18g

LanEvo
03-06-2008, 07:34 PM
i have a pack of pro supex big ace 18g and a pack of pro supex big ace micro 19g coming, do u think these two strings would make a good hybrid with each other?

J011yroger
03-06-2008, 08:15 PM
How long do these 18 ga strings last you guys?

J

Noisy Ninja
03-06-2008, 08:22 PM
How long do these 18 ga strings last you guys?

J

Ive been getting ~ 6 hours out of a full PS Big Ace Micro setup on my K90's before breakage occurs.

racquet_jedi
03-06-2008, 08:39 PM
Do hybrids count?

I have Big Banger Ace in the mains and Prince Syn. Gut w/Duraflex in the crosses, both strung @ 58 lbs...

I'm 14 and going out for Varsity singles next year...:)

How long do these 18 ga strings last you guys?

J

They last until I get them restrung, my dad doesn't think of getting racquets restrung as pleasant as I do...:wink:

psp2
03-06-2008, 10:05 PM
Forten Aramid Composite 1.10 mm user w/..... SPPP 17L in the cross for insane spin generation.

hoodjem
03-07-2008, 06:18 AM
I'm ready to move to 18 or maybe even 19 gauge strings.

I've been using lots of 17 and 17L gauge strings and loved 'em. Much better than 16g: more of everything--touch, feel, spin, control. No durability issues.

I do have 18 X20 racquets, and thinner gauges make a big difference to me. So now I'm ready to go to 18g.

I have tried SPPP in 1.18, and didn't care for it. It was in a hybrid job with Forten Sweet--too soft and mushy for me. (I like crisp.)

What are you favorite crisp 18g strings?

Pro_Tour_630
03-07-2008, 06:35 AM
Do hybrids count?

I have Big Banger Ace in the mains and Prince Syn. Gut w/Duraflex in the crosses, both strung @ 58 lbs...

I'm 14 and going out for Varsity singles next year...:)



They last until I get them restrung, my dad doesn't think of getting racquets restrung as pleasant as I do...:wink:
sure hybrids count, even if it is just one

Forten Aramid Composite 1.10 mm user w/..... SPPP 17L in the cross for insane spin generation.
how does it play, do you string it on the low side since? so an aramid and a poly like string, interesting
I'm ready to move to 18 or maybe even 19 gauge strings.

I've been using lots of 17 and 17L gauge strings and loved 'em. Much better than 16g: more of everything--touch, feel, spin, control. No durability issues.

I do have 18 X20 racquets, and thinner gauges make a big difference to me. So now I'm ready to go to 18g.

I have tried SPPP in 1.18, and didn't care for it. It was in a hybrid job with Forten Sweet--too soft and mushy for me. (I like crisp.)

What are you favorite crisp 18g strings?
once you try 18g you will be hooked,

as for crispiest would be PSGD 18g white ,

hoodjem
03-07-2008, 06:38 AM
Good. I like PSGD.

I've got it in a hybrid with Pro's Pro Poly Nova 1.20. Pretty nice--good feel, crisp but not hard, never moves, holds tension well.

slice bh compliment
03-07-2008, 06:39 AM
Well, sign me up. I use a thicker gut on the mains, and 18g Pro Hurricane on the crosses. Love it even more than Hurricane Tour 16 on the crosses. Makes a stick with 18 mains feel a little bit more like an open pattern.

Question for you guys: why 18? For the bite?
ANd like Jo11yRoger asked, are you cool with the compromised durability?

AmericanTemplar
03-07-2008, 08:54 AM
what frame and tension?

Yonex RDS 001 Mid--Mains at 60lbs, crosses at 57lbs.

As far as durability goes Big Ace is the best of what I have played with and I have found that micro lasts about as long for me as 17g of many other polys have lasted. I haven't ever tried calculating the number of hours that it takes before I break the strings. I'm currently playing 1-3 hours 4 nights a week on weekdays & maybe around 4 hours a day on weekends and I generally break strings on 1-3 racquets a week rotating between 4 racquets. I think that that's pretty good!

hoodjem
03-07-2008, 10:14 AM
My stringer "accidentally" put 16 gauge strings in my racquet. (I think she was ****ed off at me for bugging her with too many string jobs in too short a time.)

I took a racquet in to my stringer and requested a specific string, gauge, and tension hybrid job: Pro's Pro Poly Nova 1.20 mains at 62 lbs. and Wilson Sensation 17g at 62 lbs.

When I picked it up it had Pro's Pro Poly Tatinium 16g and Wilson Sensation 16g.

It hits like a frozen piece of meat. Kind of dull, hard, and mushy--all at the same time. I am about to cut them out with about 15 minutes of hitting time on them.

Once you've tried 17 or 18g, you can never go back!

Babb
03-07-2008, 01:29 PM
I recently made the switch to full 17 gauge. I would definitely go 18 if I didn't break strings as much as I do...

psp2
03-07-2008, 04:00 PM
how does it play, do you string it on the low side since? so an aramid and a poly like string, interesting


I do string the hybrid very low. 40 or 42 in the mains, 43-45 in the crosses in a MP frame. I did string up a Prestige Pro with the hybrid and the ts was just amazing. I love the low power and the crispness of the stringbed until I cut out the strings.

!<-_->!
03-07-2008, 05:55 PM
Signum Pro Poly Plasma 17L
Topspin Cyberflash 17L
Pro Supex Big Ace 18

A Defenseless Creature
03-07-2008, 09:49 PM
I am surprised no one has mentioned the MSV Hex 1,10 here. I love this string...LOVE IT! I hit moderate spin with a dense pattern racquet and the durability is better than I would have guessed. It outlasts Big Ace for me. Has decent reviews over at Stringforum. I hope TW will have it soon.

Pro_Tour_630
04-04-2008, 06:25 PM
Hail the 18g club we have a new member:confused:

after clobbering arod

NIKOLAY DAVYDENKO: Because I change racquets here after Indian Wells. I have the same racquet, Prince, just ‑‑ I have before 16 string; now 18 string. Now I have more control. That's was is surprising I have only one racquet. I play all five matches just with one racquet. I didn't change any racquets.
I have not any one racquets. It should be coming, you know, next week to my home, but with one racquet I play three sets. I didn't change, you know, like, and I was surprising myself, you know?

hoodjem
04-04-2008, 06:30 PM
Pro Supex Big Ace Micro User here. 1.15mm!!

Is SPPP softer than BA Micro?

Noisy Ninja
04-04-2008, 07:54 PM
Is SPPP softer than BA Micro?

Definitely not!

vsbabolat
04-04-2008, 08:49 PM
Hail the 18g club we have a new member:confused:

after clobbering arod

NIKOLAY DAVYDENKO: Because I change racquets here after Indian Wells. I have the same racquet, Prince, just ‑‑ I have before 16 string; now 18 string. Now I have more control. That's was is surprising I have only one racquet. I play all five matches just with one racquet. I didn't change any racquets.
I have not any one racquets. It should be coming, you know, next week to my home, but with one racquet I play three sets. I didn't change, you know, like, and I was surprising myself, you know?

Davydenko is talking about that he swicthed to the Ozone Pro Tour that is 18x20 before the Sony Ericsson Open form his old O3 Tour that is 16x18. I think the new Ozone Pro Tour is working very well for Davydenko in Miami.
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w50/vsbabolat/NDOzoneProTour.jpg

Pro_Tour_630
04-05-2008, 05:18 AM
Davydenko is talking about that he swicthed to the Ozone Pro Tour that is 18x20 before the Sony Ericsson Open form his old O3 Tour that is 16x18. I think the new Ozone Pro Tour is working very well for Davydenko in Miami.
http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w50/vsbabolat/NDOzoneProTour.jpg
I know I know:( I was just trying to prop up our club with a celebrity :)

can you tell me how many pros used thin strings (not 17g)


few observation and correct me if I am wrong: His serves were rather slow no pop or maybe that is because I was comparing them to roddick, also his shots were closer to the net and did not have that big arch?

T-fighter
04-05-2008, 05:26 AM
I play with the TF Redcode 1.2/18g

http://i301.photobucket.com/albums/nn55/stijnheylen/ResizedIMG_0477.jpg

Pro_Tour_630
04-05-2008, 11:16 AM
Hmmm Tfighter, check the title of the thread UNDER 1.20, we need to have a meeting to see if we could let you in, :)

glad you are using 1.20mm at least

nickb
04-05-2008, 11:26 AM
^ Thats harsh LOL

T-fighter
04-05-2008, 12:41 PM
As you can see on the picture, the strings are 18G.
As the club is named The official 18G club I don't see why you are protesting.

hoodjem
04-05-2008, 01:15 PM
Kirsh. competition 1.20 on the mains.
Flat serves are a bomb and the sound of it is amazing.

What's it sound like?

hoodjem
04-05-2008, 01:23 PM
Definitely not!


SPPP is crisper than BA Micro?
(SPPP felt kind of mushy to me.)

AmericanTemplar
04-05-2008, 02:26 PM
BAM is wicked crisp.

Hatari!
04-05-2008, 02:37 PM
I am a poser. For my main strings are 18g, but forgive me, my crosses are 17g. Woe is me!

Lloyd Barcenilla
04-05-2008, 02:52 PM
Pro Supex Big Ace Micro User here. 1.15mm!!

Hey American Templar.

Do you have any Big Ace Micro to trade?
I am very interested in this gauge.

My email is Barcy@hotmail.co.uk if you would like to contact me

AmericanTemplar
04-05-2008, 03:16 PM
Sorry Lloyd--there's probably not even a set left on the reel & I think that I'm moving up to the 1.22mm.

Lloyd Barcenilla
04-05-2008, 03:30 PM
Sorry Lloyd--there's probably not even a set left on the reel & I think that I'm moving up to the 1.22mm.

How come your moving up?

Do you reccomend micro?

AmericanTemplar
04-05-2008, 06:47 PM
I was breaking the Micro a little too fast, but I do love it and I highly recommend it if you don't mind restringing frequently.

Lloyd Barcenilla
04-05-2008, 06:53 PM
I was breaking the Micro a little too fast, but I do love it and I highly recommend it if you don't mind restringing frequently.

How often were you breaking it? Are you a regular string breaker with a slightly thicker string?

J011yroger
04-05-2008, 07:32 PM
^ Thats harsh LOL

Wait a minute...you are playing Kevlar in your Fischers?!?!

J

AmericanTemplar
04-05-2008, 07:49 PM
How often were you breaking it? Are you a regular string breaker with a slightly thicker string?

I never really tracked and averaged out how long that they lasted, but it varied quite a bit depending on who I was hitting with, whether or not I was serving, and how well I was hitting. On two different occasions I broke strings on 3 racquets that had been strung the night before, but there have been times when I haven't had to string a single racquet in a week.

I would say that with most 17g polys I will break strings on 1-2 racquets a week, playing about 20 hours a week.

nickb
04-06-2008, 06:31 AM
Wait a minute...you are playing Kevlar in your Fischers?!?!

J

Yeah...at very low tension :)

Nick

Pro_Tour_630
04-06-2008, 07:09 AM
As you can see on the picture, the strings are 18G.
As the club is named The official 18G club I don't see why you are protesting.
First of all I was joking not protesting hence the :):):):)Second as you can see in () I specifically said UNDER 1.20mm and no your string is not considered an 18g I am sorry it says 1.20mm as you can see in the picture, I have used it and measured it, we have gone through this a million times, it is considered 17L just like all 1.20mm who's label is misleading by saying it is 18g. Oh and check , my signature BTW

I have an idea why don't you form a club called the 1.20mm club, .

jmsx521
04-12-2008, 02:52 PM
Pro Supex Poly Power Soft 19g (1.15mm), $4.95/set, strung at 58lbs on Pure Drive Roddick Plus. Lasts anywhere from 10min to 4-5 hours of play. It's not a permanent string. I am still in experimental stages.

cpmoran
04-12-2008, 06:08 PM
MSV Focus Hex 1.10mm and I have the new Blue gear Plat white 1.19 to test asap.

Pro_Tour_630
09-12-2008, 06:21 PM
I have tried cyberflash 1.20mm 17L and loved it , I am cheating :cry:

zidane339
09-12-2008, 06:27 PM
Count me in! I love Lux BA 18, but my fave so far is Pro Supex Big Ace 18

johalojoe
09-13-2008, 01:32 PM
Ashaway kevlar 18 and Prince synthetic gut duraflex 18 frame is head extreme standard and tension 62 lbs.

hoodjem
09-13-2008, 03:21 PM
Lux BBA 1.12 is pretty damn wonderful.

Carlito
09-13-2008, 04:23 PM
I use Timo 1.10 in the main with a variety of crosses. You would be supprised how long it will last with a soft cross string like NRG2

bsandy
09-18-2008, 06:31 PM
I just went back to PSGD 18 x Bab SFP 16

. . . Bud

smirker
09-19-2008, 11:29 AM
new member and new string I suspect. Weisscannon Repulse 1.13mm. Not strung it up yet but will post a review when I do.

goosala
09-19-2008, 12:55 PM
I'm a fan of Gosen OG Sheep Micro 18 and Gamma Syn Gut 18.

Pro_Tour_630
09-19-2008, 01:02 PM
nice to see our club getting members,

just strung up pacific prime natural gut 17L which is 1.20mm, I know I know, it is not a true 18g but what the heck no one would listen to me anyway in other forums or threads so ......

I played amazing nice, I was taking massive cuts at the ball will mega spin and kick, only problem is the string lasted 3 hours of play in a dense 18X20 MP at 52lbs. :twisted:

Big-Serve
09-19-2008, 02:45 PM
MSV Hex 1.18mm is a very nice poly!

shoesandko
09-19-2008, 09:14 PM
I've been using Gamma poly xtra 18 and gosen og micro 18 for a few years , good feel lasts about 6 hours then I reload,

Rabbit
09-19-2008, 09:39 PM
A listing of TW's offerings in 18 from lowest diameter to highest:

Ashway Crossfire (hybrid) 1.10 w/1.30 cross
Luxilon TiMo 1.10
Polyfibre Poly HiTech 1.10

**************************************

Head Synthetic Gut PPS 1.14

**************************************
Gamma Infinity (hybrid) 1.15 w/1.25 crosses
Gosen OG Sheep 1.15
Kirschbaum Pro Line I 1.15
Kirschbaum Pro Line II 1.15
Luxilon Monotec Zolo 1.15
Prince Synthetic 1.15

**************************************

Gamma TNT2 1.17

**************************************

Gamma Synthetic 1.18
Luxilon Ace 1.18
Tecnifibre NRG2 1.18
Tecnifibre X-One Biphase 1.18
Volkl PowerFibre 1.18
Volkl Powerfibre II 1.18

**************************************

Alpha Gut 18 1.20
Babolat Pro Hurricane 1.20
Gosen Polyon 1.20
Klip Excellerator 1.20
Klip K-Boom 1.20
Klip Legend 1.20
Tecnifibre Pro Red Code 1.20

**************************************

Wilson Enduro 1.21
Wilson NXT 1.21

**************************************

Gamma Professional 1.22


IMO, 1.20 and greater is 17L, not 18.

That said, I've landed on 16L as my gauge of choice....

Pro_Tour_630
09-20-2008, 04:04 PM
A listing of TW's offerings in 18 from lowest diameter to highest:

Ashway Crossfire (hybrid) 1.10 w/1.30 cross
Luxilon TiMo 1.10
Polyfibre Poly HiTech 1.10

**************************************

Head Synthetic Gut PPS 1.14

**************************************
Gamma Infinity (hybrid) 1.15 w/1.25 crosses
Gosen OG Sheep 1.15
Kirschbaum Pro Line I 1.15
Kirschbaum Pro Line II 1.15
Luxilon Monotec Zolo 1.15
Prince Synthetic 1.15

**************************************

Gamma TNT2 1.17

**************************************

Gamma Synthetic 1.18
Luxilon Ace 1.18
Tecnifibre NRG2 1.18
Tecnifibre X-One Biphase 1.18
Volkl PowerFibre 1.18
Volkl Powerfibre II 1.18

**************************************

Alpha Gut 18 1.20
Babolat Pro Hurricane 1.20
Gosen Polyon 1.20
Klip Excellerator 1.20
Klip K-Boom 1.20
Klip Legend 1.20
Tecnifibre Pro Red Code 1.20

**************************************

Wilson Enduro 1.21
Wilson NXT 1.21

**************************************

Gamma Professional 1.22


IMO, 1.20 and greater is 17L, not 18.

That said, I've landed on 16L as my gauge of choice....

thanks rabbit, even though I have shunned 17L I am liking it more, but for open patterns there is nothing like 16L

Rabbit
09-20-2008, 05:29 PM
thanks rabbit, even though I have shunned 17L I am liking it more, but for open patterns there is nothing like 16L

Yep. I"ve really taken to it. With the AG 100, I've found it to be comfortable and still a good/great performer in a 16X19. There is plenty of spin potential, and I think a thicker gauge is generally more comfortable than a thinner one. All that said, I have some 18 gauge uncoated gut that I've been waiting to stick in there... :)

RFRF
09-20-2008, 11:21 PM
i use technifibre nrg 18 in the mains and timo 18 in the crosses in my pc600. i was using bow brand 18 gut but it wouldnt last due to misshits!

Cereal68
09-23-2008, 12:18 PM
I once owned a ProKennex micro-mid. Should that not qualify me for lifetime membership?? What was in those? 22g?

Just spent a not so great week with PSGD 17 and went back to Luxilon Ace 18 today. Aaaah! It dies too fast though so I'm looking at multis. But I swear I'll never use rope in my sticks again!!!

BounceHitBounceHit
06-18-2009, 05:30 PM
How did I miss this one??? :confused:

Luxilon BB Ace 18 @ 70# in my KPS 88's. :)

BHBH

J011yroger
06-18-2009, 05:32 PM
^^^ How many minutes does that last you :)

J

dgoldman
06-19-2009, 07:40 AM
AG 200 with x-1 biphase 18 @55lbs 1.18 3.5lvl @40y/o

KOtennis
06-19-2009, 02:15 PM
hi guys,

i am testing 18 gauge strings on my AG100.

Maybe Rabbit can comment and help me out.

I first strung Pro Hurricane 18 on it at 58 lbs, cut it out after 1 hitting session cause it felt like it was at 54.
restrung with another set of PH 18 at 60, MUCH better.
even thinking about doing it at 62 next time.

i didnt realize that PH18 is THE softest poly available.

i have 2 other 18 gauge strings at home i am planning to try.

-Black Code 18
-Timo 110

any comments?

Pro_Tour_630
06-19-2009, 06:19 PM
My club has some life....... yippy

I had 18g PSGD at 50 and it lasted two sessions, I like Kevlar 18g in mains with Gosen 18g in cross in my KPS 88, last longer but not enough pop, it has pop in the begining but loses that pop after about 6 hours of play, so I cut it out anyway

BounceHitBounceHit
06-20-2009, 08:46 AM
^^^ How many minutes does that last you :)

J

Great question. ;) Well, as of this morning my first set up (actually at 68#) has lasted 6 hours. Not bad. But it is ready to break, I can feel it. ;) CC

J011yroger
06-20-2009, 04:51 PM
Great question. ;) Well, as of this morning my first set up (actually at 68#) has lasted 6 hours. Not bad. But it is ready to break, I can feel it. ;) CC

Oh, wow, that is good life.

Aside. We may be closing up the shop for a long weekend in Sept. That might be an ideal time for me to pay a visit to Nashvegas. Thur-Sun.

I will keep you posted as I get closer to the date.

J

dadozen
10-29-2009, 10:26 AM
Let's bump this.

thin co-polys lover here. Tried BAM, MSV Focus Hex 1.10mm, and now I play with Kirsch PL2 1.15mm. Just awesome.

skyzoo
10-29-2009, 10:37 AM
I just became a member. Full 1.18 MSV focus Hex

Valjean
10-29-2009, 11:57 AM
Let's say polys/copolys don't qualify now; in play, they're almost the equivalent of 16 gauge...

bad_call
10-29-2009, 02:48 PM
Let's say polys/copolys don't qualify now; in play, they're almost the equivalent of 16 gauge...

huh? :confused: which non poly/co-poly in 16g plays like BAM for instance?

bad_call
10-31-2009, 03:30 PM
Let's say polys/copolys don't qualify now; in play, they're almost the equivalent of 16 gauge...

huh? :confused: which non poly/co-poly in 16g plays like BAM for instance?

drawing a blank?

meowmix
10-31-2009, 03:38 PM
I officially petition for membership:

In my crosses, I love a nice soft 18g multi. My favorite has been E-Force Fluid 18 (1.10), but sadly, the string has been discontinued, and I must find another cross. Suggestions anyone? I'm thinking Alpha Gut 2000...

Superman1272
11-03-2009, 11:32 AM
sign me up, I guess.

Check my signature for string type/tension/frame.

shoesandko
11-03-2009, 05:16 PM
Used to use Gamma poly Xtra in the mains 1.15 now have been using straight gosen OG micro 18.

Toad
11-03-2009, 06:02 PM
Let's say polys/copolys don't qualify now; in play, they're almost the equivalent of 16 gauge...

I'm using a multi...18 ga. Ashaway Kevlar...that counts right :P. Have 18 ga Gosen Micro in crosses now, but I typically have 17 ga. in there. The Kevlar is murder on my grommets...have to tube them to keep them in tack.

JT_2eighty
03-08-2010, 07:00 AM
I have seen the light.

Been on an experimentation kick the last few months. Tried all kinds of hybrids, with all string types out there, except kevlar... until now.

These 19g kevlar mains strung at 45# are amazing. Better feel and stability than the poly's I've tried, and better shock absorption too. (not to mention the bite, touch, control... yea!)

Any of you thin gauge users use forten aramid composite 18g? It's one of the thinner ones out there, but seems only in reel form, how does that compare to the gamma fusion 19g or the wilson technora 19g? Forten ultra thin looks enticing as well. I had a dream about kevlar strings last night, I think i need help?

Danstevens
03-08-2010, 07:47 AM
I have seen the light.

Been on an experimentation kick the last few months. Tried all kinds of hybrids, with all string types out there, except kevlar... until now.

These 19g kevlar mains strung at 45# are amazing. Better feel and stability than the poly's I've tried, and better shock absorption too. (not to mention the bite, touch, control... yea!)

Any of you thin gauge users use forten aramid composite 18g? It's one of the thinner ones out there, but seems only in reel form, how does that compare to the gamma fusion 19g or the wilson technora 19g? Forten ultra thin looks enticing as well. I had a dream about kevlar strings last night, I think i need help?

JT_2eighty, have you tried MSV Focus Hex 1.10mm? If you have, how does it compare to a 19g Kevlar hybrid? I'm keen to try some 19g Kevlar but it's not as easy to find as you might think in the UK so buying it would probably mean buying some from the US which is all well and good but I'd have to buy a fair bit of it just to try it out. I'm interested to know which setup you feel offers the best spin potential and feel.

JT_2eighty
03-08-2010, 08:23 AM
JT_2eighty, have you tried MSV Focus Hex 1.10mm? If you have, how does it compare to a 19g Kevlar hybrid? I'm keen to try some 19g Kevlar but it's not as easy to find as you might think in the UK so buying it would probably mean buying some from the US which is all well and good but I'd have to buy a fair bit of it just to try it out. I'm interested to know which setup you feel offers the best spin potential and feel.

That is a good question. I've only tried their 1.18 hex, which was actually my personal favorite poly of the handful i've used. Comparing the 1.18 to my current hybrid (which is specifically gamma tnt fusion 19g/unifibre nat gut), I would say as far as feel: kevlar is better at the net, with better touch than any poly. (Perhaps due to the gut, but also due to poly's typical unfavorable feel at the net.)

Baseline feel is a close call, however I'd say kevlar wins because it has better tension stability (especially when crossed with gut), and so less restringing, longer string life, etc; give kevlar/gut the edge IMO. I can take long, fast swings at the ball with either setup and have solid confidence and similar spin/control; however if I need to mix it up pacewise, the kevlar/gut seems to have a better response to varied swingspeeds.

Spin potential: It's a tough comparison, as I've also used gut with the msv hex, and also had great results in the spin department. In that case, I actually think pure access to spin was best with gut mains and msv cross, however the control was a bit lacking as compared to either full msv or my current kevlar/gut. On the other hand, Kevlar/gut is a more controllable spin, probably due to the lower powered feel of the kevlar. Again, MSV hex is no slouch for spin either, so it's also a close call.

In the end I like the feel of the kevlar/gut because it shines from all sides of the court, and I play a decent amount of doubles that makes this my current favorite. I can string this setup quite low so it is better for shock absorption when compared to any poly, and like I said before, also wins in terms of long-term playability. Even though I string my own, restringing poly often can be a pain, I'd rather string gut half as often for just a few bucks more each time.

Pro_Tour_630
03-08-2010, 08:30 AM
I have seen the light.

it is about time, welcome aboard, we are few who have seen the light, the rest are blind,

mozzer
03-08-2010, 08:37 AM
1.18 SPPP for me

skyzoo
03-08-2010, 09:01 AM
Full BAM as of now. 1.15 ftw

AllDownTheLine
03-21-2010, 06:20 AM
I have been using BAM 52/50. Count me in!!!

PBODY99
03-21-2010, 09:31 AM
Hail the 18g club we have a new member:confused:

after clobbering arod

NIKOLAY DAVYDENKO: Because I change racquets here after Indian Wells. I have the same racquet, Prince, just ‑‑ I have before 16 string; now 18 string. Now I have more control. That's was is surprising I have only one racquet. I play all five matches just with one racquet. I didn't change any racquets.
I have not any one racquets. It should be coming, you know, next week to my home, but with one racquet I play three sets. I didn't change, you know, like, and I was surprising myself, you know?
He went from a 16 mains to an 18 main frame. He was not referring to the the string gauge
I use a sub 1.20 poly with 18 g PSGD for the crosses in my Speedport Gold 110s.

philosoraptor
03-21-2010, 06:08 PM
full bed of focus hex 1.18, count me in

eyeball
03-23-2010, 10:24 AM
You can count me in. I'm using Luxilon Big Banger Ace 18 1.12mm.

mozzer
03-23-2010, 10:33 AM
Picked up a set of 1.10 TiMo to try out! About as thin as you get?