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matchmaker
03-18-2008, 11:19 AM
Please give me your opinion on this: who is the player who would really have deserved to win a Slam but never has won any?

Fedace
03-18-2008, 11:23 AM
Mark Phillipousis and James Blake. Although Mark is living a dream and has plenty of money, he would have won Wimbledon that year if he didn't hurt his knee against Sampras. and as for James, if he is as much of nice guy as people say he is, he certainly deserves ONE before he retires.

oberyn
03-18-2008, 11:35 AM
Please give me your opinion on this: who is the player who would really have deserved to win a Slam but never has won any?

I'm going with a tie between Alex Corretja and Todd Martin. Both nice guys, both made it to 2 Slam finals and came up empty-handed.

I'd like to see David Nalbandian win one. Has any player in the open era made it to the semis of all four Slams without winning one? I wouldn't like to see Nalby become the first to achieve that somewhat dubious distinction. :(

simi
03-18-2008, 11:57 AM
My vote goes to Pancho Gonzales.

Moose Malloy
03-18-2008, 12:12 PM
My vote goes to Pancho Gonzales.

He won the US Open. Or did you mean best player to never win the Calendar Grand Slam?

Has any player in the open era made it to the semis of all four Slams without winning one?

Mecir & Okker also have that distinction.

strike
03-18-2008, 12:14 PM
Back in the I thought Henri Leconte was definitely going to win one...a very crafty player...even beat Sampras in Davis Cup '91 Final.

strike
03-18-2008, 12:17 PM
He won the US Open. Or did you mean best player to never win the Calendar Grand Slam?

Mecir & Okker also have that distinction.

Has anyone moved better on the court since The Big Cat?

Kirko
03-18-2008, 12:20 PM
harold solomon, I always thought he would be the 1st American since Trabert to win the french.

Leelord337
03-18-2008, 12:52 PM
I would have to go with Todd Martin. God knows how many grand slam finals he made it to but never won a slam

Also Tommy Haas, made it to #2 in the world with no slams

pabletion
03-18-2008, 12:57 PM
Marcelo Rios.... one of the most talented players ever, too bad his head and desire got in the way of him being one of the greats

superman1
03-18-2008, 01:13 PM
Probably Nalbandian. Guys like Rios and Henman and the like never beat Sampras and Agassi back-to-back two tournaments in a row, like Nalbandian did with Federer and Nadal. And he threw in Djokovic for good measure.

matchmaker
03-18-2008, 05:57 PM
Thanks for the reactions guys. I was thinking about it myself and for me it might be Alex Corretja. He was one of the world best claycourters for years, made it twice to a GS final and returned with empty hands. It must be bitter for him to see that guys with seemingly no better ability than him at that point in time like Carlos Moya or Albert Costa and later Gaston Gaudio got the big trophy.

anointedone
03-18-2008, 08:02 PM
For the women I think it would be either Helena Sukova or Mary Joe Fernandez. I dont count current players who still might win one.

For the men I think it would be David Nalbandian if I counted current players, but since he is still active that probably isnt fair but I really dont think he will win one at this point. Just players who are already done their careers then I would say Todd Martin perhaps.

llgc8080
03-19-2008, 04:58 AM
Mecir, Solomon and Corretja.

Barca tennis
03-19-2008, 06:24 AM
Has to be Tiger Tim, was the master at the net!
:)

zagor
03-19-2008, 06:43 AM
Todd Martin for me without a doubt.Two slam finals and he lost to 14 slam winner Sampras and 8 slam winner Agassi(who was having the best year of his career),he made Agassi really sweat as well.In addition to that he made 4 slam semis and 4 slam quarters.I feel he is very underrated in comparison to players like Rios.

hoodjem
03-19-2008, 06:54 AM
Has anyone moved better on the court since The Big Cat?

Nope, Mecir positively floated around the court. I tried to imitate him, and kept tripping.

He was uncanny.

altodds
03-19-2008, 07:10 AM
How about Vitas Gerulaitis, he's one of the top rank before and never noticed him got some GrandSlam

Miloslav Mecir, has one of the great touch shot on court ever.

el sergento
03-19-2008, 01:43 PM
Marcelo Rios.... one of the most talented players ever, too bad his head and desire got in the way of him being one of the greats

IMO, Rios did win a GS because he lost the AO final to a juiced up Korda. The ATP should have stripped Korda of the title and given it to Rios.

chaognosis
03-19-2008, 01:50 PM
This is one of the few questions I never change my answer to: Pancho Segura. Arguably the best player in the world for several years in the early 1950s, as Kramer started playing less and Gonzales was still on the rise. Actually Kramer thought Segura was an even better player than Rosewall (this seems dubious to me, but it's a remarkable observation nevertheless).

saram
03-19-2008, 02:55 PM
Nalbandian and Rios come to mind. I wonder if I will say the words: Davydenko when his career comes to an end...?

hoodjem
03-19-2008, 05:56 PM
This is one of the few questions I never change my answer to: Pancho Segura. Arguably the best player in the world for several years in the early 1950s, as Kramer started playing less and Gonzales was still on the rise. Actually Kramer thought Segura was an even better player than Rosewall (this seems dubious to me, but it's a remarkable observation nevertheless).

I was going to say Segura, also.

Vitas won the AO in Dec 1977.

Babb
03-19-2008, 05:57 PM
Another vote for Rios.

Wuornos
03-20-2008, 11:41 PM
I can only really answer this question in relation to the Open Era (OE), and I would say Miloslav Mečř. Assuming we ignore the standard of play achieved by Tony Roche during the OE because he won a major pre OE.

Tim

Tennis old man
03-21-2008, 08:28 AM
Panchito Segura, a genious.

urban
03-21-2008, 08:36 AM
Bunny Austin was no slouch. Vinnie Richards won an Olympic gold, but no major, i think. And there was a guy named Kovacs in the 40s, who must have been quite good, according to Tilden's view. Segura is a right choice. I would add Tom Okker, who could have won some RG, if he didn't chose to play the WCT circuit. Mecir, Leconte and Rios are good modern choices.

oberyn
03-21-2008, 09:11 AM
How about Vitas Gerulaitis, he's one of the top rank before and never noticed him got some GrandSlam

Vitas won the Australian Open in (Dec.) 1977.

Behtareen
03-21-2008, 09:42 AM
Fabrice Santoro. i dont think hes ever won a grand slam.

jeffreyneave
03-21-2008, 11:50 AM
I would choose Segura because he has a legitmate claim for the world no1 in the early 1950s. Between 1950 and 1952 , He won 3 US pros . He beat kramer in 1950. Gonzales in 1951 and Gonzales in 1952. I would regard his wins in 1951 and 1950 as the most important of the year. These were all outdoor wins, where I suspect at this time he was better player than Kramer or Gonzales. The Us pro was played indoors from 1954 on (segura did not enter in '53) at the very fast Cleveland arena for the rest of the 50s, as was the other important event of the 50s the Wembly pro. indoor tennis suited his main rivals kramer, sedgman and Gonzales far better.

jeffrey

TennisLover17
03-21-2008, 05:41 PM
Todd Martin for me without a doubt.Two slam finals and he lost to 14 slam winner Sampras and 8 slam winner Agassi(who was having the best year of his career),he made Agassi really sweat as well.In addition to that he made 4 slam semis and 4 slam quarters.I feel he is very underrated in comparison to players like Rios.

agreed. todd martin deserved one

Frank Silbermann
03-24-2008, 04:57 AM
Don't forget to consider Baron Gottfried von Cramm. No telling what he would have won if not for WWII, followed by Wimbledon's post-war refusal to accept his entry due to his ****-era prison sentences for homosexual activities. (It was von Cramm who introduced Bill Tilden to the gay cabarets of pre-war Berlin).

daveyboy
03-24-2008, 05:42 AM
My vote is with Mecir- He came close twice, lost the Aussie Open and US open finals to Lendl, who pretty much owned him (except for that miraculous match in Key Biscane). He was fluid, smart, and crafty. He'd figure out a way to beat players.

Tempest344
03-24-2008, 05:50 AM
Tommy Haas :(

were it not for so many injuries and bad luck i think he would have 1 or 2 under his belt by now

urban
03-24-2008, 10:03 AM
Nice to mention Von Cramm. But he won the RG twice, over Crawford and Perry. He probably would have won in 1937-9, but was sidelined by his association for political reasons. In 37 he should himself save for the upcoming DC contest with the US, and RG was won by Henner Henkel.

1970CRBase
03-24-2008, 07:38 PM
Nobody remember Henri Leconte? So talented, but only 1 GS final, lost to Wilander.

Jonas
03-24-2008, 08:54 PM
In order:
Rios
Pioline
Martin
Leconte
I think that is a real soild list...

ALl of these guys won multiple titles and were GS finalists......

BeHappy
03-24-2008, 09:49 PM
tim henman was unlucky not to win wimbledon IMO.He was a much better player than Pat Cash for eg, he was just born ten years too late.

Shaolin
03-24-2008, 11:14 PM
Rios and Mecir.