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K-LEG
03-28-2008, 07:26 PM
I feel like this racquet is very underrated so I decided to make this thread so that us Dunlop Aerogel 200 users can talk about this amazing racquet!

I know I won't become too popular for saying this but, BABOLAT SUCKS!

tennis_player09
03-28-2008, 07:56 PM
yo,
I love my aerogel 200 and wouldnt mind joining the club, but that there is already a dunlop 200 series club...

Max Winther
03-28-2008, 09:28 PM
I'll join, but i don't think this racquet is underrated. It's been a big topic on these boards since it's come out.

And yeah, theres a 200 SERIES club, not just the AG.

In)SpiRe
03-28-2008, 09:31 PM
Ah well, regardless, I would like to join. I don't have my Dunlop AeroGel 200's yet, but they're coming in!

cukoo
03-28-2008, 09:33 PM
Can anyone who used a mfil and Ag tell me about the difference? The mfil seems to have a higher weight in stock form and a higher swingweight. I also read in a couple post that the mfil was better for plowing through the ball...
Any info?

Max Winther
03-28-2008, 09:39 PM
I didn't feel that the M - Fil 200 had a higher weight. The swingweight was heavier on the M fil than the AG, though. I lost the maneuverability up at net. It also feels a lot different. It's not as solid or muted as the AG. That being said, I think I'm gonna try it again and buy a couple if I find it tolerable. It still has the nice, soft feel of any 200 series racquet, but it's not on the same level of the AG and MW.

Tennis_Geek
03-28-2008, 10:33 PM
Count me in! I'm a proud user of 2 AG200's. Both matched to 356g strung and 310mm balance. TW leather + Tourna overgrip.Tecnifibre XR3 16 @ 50 lbs. Tried 54 lbs but found it too tight. I play without any dampener. Great racquet for big serving and flat baseline bashing on both wings.

tarie
03-29-2008, 02:48 AM
Here I am!
I've got the 16x19 version,I've putted on a Gamma Leather grip and now I am making tests to find out how many grams to add at 3&9.
Anyway,it's a really great raquet,also stock.

tennis_player09
03-29-2008, 10:10 PM
hey tarie,
how is the 16x19 version aerogel like compared to the americono version? you recommend it?

I also hit the aerogel 300, it has a bit more power and topspin than the 200. But im still digging my 200

Max Winther
03-29-2008, 10:22 PM
I would love to try the 16x19 version, but would also need to weight it up. I get a lot of spin with my regular AG, so the 16x19 one would be crazy spin.

I demoed the 300 along with the 200. Found that it was unstable and got bullied by hard serves and severe topspin. I'd like to buy one just for customization purposes, because i think with it leaded up to about 350-355g and with a leather grip, it could be a great racquet. I'd put most the weight in the handle, though. Some SPPP in there would help its case too.

Thats the thing with demoes, because you cant really set them up how you normally would. If you don't usually play with synthetic gut at 50lbs of tension, why should you demo one with that string setup? You can get a rough idea of how the racquet will be like by demoing, but just because a racquet plays bad without lead or with demo strings doesnt mean its a bad racquet, and that might have been the case with my demo 300.

tarie
03-30-2008, 02:58 AM
hey tarie,
how is the 16x19 version aerogel like compared to the americono version? you recommend it?

I also hit the aerogel 300, it has a bit more power and topspin than the 200. But im still digging my 200
I've never tried the american version,but my brother's coach has one and doesn't like it.I mean,he says of course it's a good raquet,but the ball doesn't come out of the stringbed so easily as on the 16x19(my brother plays with 16x19 too,so they compared them).The EU version is easier but it gives the same control,more spin a little bit more power.
Of course for lots of people it needs added weight,(i added a leather grip and now 4 gr at 3-9),but believe me,weight and balance it's very very good also stock.

roddick89
03-30-2008, 07:28 AM
Hey can i join? i tried one out at my club and loved it. I was using Pure Drive but this thing is in another league!! So i bought it yesterday and i'm waiting for it to get strung.

tarie
03-30-2008, 04:33 PM
Hey can i join? i tried one out at my club and loved it. I was using Pure Drive but this thing is in another league!! So i bought it yesterday and i'm waiting for it to get strung.
Which one did you bought?

roddick89
03-31-2008, 01:16 AM
Which one did you bought?

Aerogel 200 16x19

ART ART
03-31-2008, 04:32 AM
Try this setup with the 16x19-AG200:
Lead from 12 to 10 - 8 grams
Lead at the butcap - 3 grams
String it at 21 or 22 kilos with a good polyester string.
Overgrip.
In the end you will have a ~350grams, balance 32,5 cm, strung racket.

You will find control, spin, stability and amazing power.
Now, go and try it.

tarie
03-31-2008, 05:43 AM
Try this setup with the 16x19-AG200:
Lead from 12 to 10 - 8 grams
Lead at the butcap - 3 grams
String it at 21 or 22 kilos with a good polyester string.
Overgrip.
In the end you will have a ~350grams, balance 32,5 cm, strung racket.

You will find control, spin, stability and amazing power.
Now, go and try it.

It's more or less what I did.
I put a leather grip and 4 grams but I prefer at 3&9,that bacause at 2&10 it has the aerogel that is already stiff enough,well at 3&9 it has only the m-fil that is softer and due to less mass than 18x20 version it tend to twist a little on off-center shot.
This is only my personal thought.:)

I agree with stringing with goog polys at 21/22 kilos,it's perfect.And I would recommend to use thin gauges,17 or 18.

ART ART
03-31-2008, 08:12 AM
It's more or less what I did.
I put a leather grip and 4 grams but I prefer at 3&9,that bacause at 2&10 it has the aerogel that is already stiff enough,well at 3&9 it has only the m-fil that is softer and due to less mass than 18x20 version it tend to twist a little on off-center shot.
This is only my personal thought.:)

I agree with stringing with goog polys at 21/22 kilos,it's perfect.And I would recommend to use thin gauges,17 or 18.

WIth the leather grip you put more 12 grams on the handle, not 3 grams like I said, so your point of balance and swingweight will not be the same.
But if that setup is good for you, keep it, all racket setup's are personal.
;)

tarie
03-31-2008, 02:27 PM
WIth the leather grip you put more 12 grams on the handle, not 3 grams like I said, so your point of balance and swingweight will not be the same.
But if that setup is good for you, keep it, all racket setup's are personal.
;)
Actually it's a little to heavy now.
The main reason for I added a leather grip was to reduce the handle size,but then I wanted the same balance of the stock version so I added 4 grams at 3&9,but now it's around 345gr strung and maybe it's to much for me now,I'm good but no so strong and resitant.:)
Anyway I think it needs weight at 3&9,so I'm gonna keep it and maybe replace the leather with a syntethic,don't know.

crosscourt
03-31-2008, 02:39 PM
Try this setup with the 16x19-AG200:
Lead from 12 to 10 - 8 grams
Lead at the butcap - 3 grams
String it at 21 or 22 kilos with a good polyester string.
Overgrip.
In the end you will have a ~350grams, balance 32,5 cm, strung racket.

You will find control, spin, stability and amazing power.
Now, go and try it.

I have mine at 355 grams, 6 points headlight, swingweight of 327. I might try to keep the same weight and balance but push the swingweight closer to 340. With the Federer hybrid I get a lot of grip on the ball and a ton of power.

cc

ART ART
03-31-2008, 05:18 PM
I have mine at 355 grams, 6 points headlight, swingweight of 327. I might try to keep the same weight and balance but push the swingweight closer to 340. With the Federer hybrid I get a lot of grip on the ball and a ton of power.

cc

What modifications did you do to your racket, and how did you measure your swingweight?

In)SpiRe
03-31-2008, 07:04 PM
Hey guys just wondering would this be a good deal: 2 Brand New Dunlop AeroGel 200's (18x20) in a 4 1/4 grip for $175, maybe even cheaper.

furyoku_tennis
03-31-2008, 09:48 PM
I have an AG200 (18x20) and was wondering which tension you guys preferred on yours and what string setup?

K-LEG
03-31-2008, 10:03 PM
Hey guys just wondering would this be a good deal: 2 Brand New Dunlop AeroGel 200's (18x20) in a 4 1/4 grip for $175, maybe even cheaper.

That's a great deal. I purchased my Dunlop Aerogel 200 (18x20) in a 4 3/8 grip size for $140.00.

crosscourt
04-01-2008, 01:33 AM
What modifications did you do to your racket, and how did you measure your swingweight?

I took it to a professional racket customiser. Something that became obvious is that because rackets of the same model vary in their weight and balance, making the same modification to two rackets may serve only to make them more different. If you look at the positioning of the additional weight on my aerogels you will see that it is in very different places.

cc

crosscourt
04-01-2008, 01:35 AM
I have an AG200 (18x20) and was wondering which tension you guys preferred on yours and what string setup?

Gut mains and alu power/rough crosses. At 60lbs in winter and 62lbs in summer for the gut. The alu power is strung two pounds less.

cc

tarie
04-04-2008, 06:27 AM
Does someone know how much is the swinghweight of the 16x19 version?

Ryoma Kun
04-04-2008, 12:22 PM
I love this racquet, love it so much that i sold my ps85's to get some!!!!

Max Winther
04-04-2008, 07:06 PM
Hey everyone, seeking advice of other AG players on the issue of customization. I've currently got 12 grams of lead in the handle of each of my AG200's, but I am seeking more weight. I'm gonna get a leather grip to get like 5-10 more grams out of it, and then I'll go crazy with lead. I'd like to get up to 12.5-13 ounces while still maintaining around 5-10 pts HL. Anyone have any good experiences with leading up an AG to a similar weight?

Speedygonzalez
06-25-2008, 01:25 PM
Hi Aerogel 200 users

I recently acquired two second hand AG 200 in fine condition. They were strung with Yonex Tough Brid Plus and yesterday night I restrung one of them with full poly.

The problem is that I immediately noticed that the head shape had changed. It has become less egg shaped and more round. I have experienced this also with the PC 600 but then difference was really minimal. In this case the differences are much larger. If I superimpose the racquet on the one which has the original string, the head is almost 1 cm wider and the racquet is approximately three mm shorter!!! However, if I compare it with an unstrung Rev 200g, which has the same mold I guess, it is almost identical......

Is this normal? I really like the original egg shape although I haven't noticed that it affects how the racquet plays. I strung the mains at 25 kg and the crosses at 24. Should I string them both at 25? Has it to do with the fact that I have a cheap stringing machine (Pro's Pro Challenger 1)?

Thanks for the input

Speedygonzalez
06-26-2008, 01:11 AM
Anyone out there?

snoflewis
06-26-2008, 01:53 AM
im thinking about getting one. but was wondering, does this racket have a muted feel? and does the racket play crisper/stiffer than the stiffness ratings indicate? how is the ball feel compared to the mfil200?

Speedygonzalez
06-26-2008, 02:33 AM
im thinking about getting one. but was wondering, does this racket have a muted feel? and does the racket play crisper/stiffer than the stiffness ratings indicate? how is the ball feel compared to the mfil200?

It indeed feels a bit muted but IMO not in a way annoying. Actually, I didn't feel much difference when I played with or without dampener. Regarding the stiffness, I think it is comparable with the iprestige mp. AG 200 has a flex rating of 61, iprestige 62. It is not as stiff as a Pro Staff Classic.

rev200g
06-27-2008, 02:15 PM
Hi Speedy,
How does it compare to your Revelation 200g? My main sticks are 3 Revelation 200gs and a Muscleweave 200g but I am curious. Any response is much appreciated. Cheers!:)

Speedygonzalez
06-27-2008, 02:35 PM
Hi Speedy,
How does it compare to your Revelation 200g? My main sticks are 3 Revelation 200gs and a Muscleweave 200g but I am curious. Any response is much appreciated. Cheers!:)

Hey rev200g,

I have taken my Revs out of the closet to fix the butcaps and to restring them. What I can say from my experience so far, is that the feel is quite similar. Also in terms of flexibility I cannot detect too much difference. The Aerogel however, swings lighter and is very manoeuvrable. I really enjoy to volley with this stick. I cannot really compare the power levels, because at the time I was using the Revs I was using lower tensions. I will restring the Revs now with the same string and the same tension. Both are very stable racquets, I would say they are equal in that respect.

The Aerogel is quite different from the Muscle Weave. Much stiffer, tad lighter and more powerful.

Hope it helps. The Aerogel is definitely a great stick IMO, I will stay with this one for a while. But Revs are great too and in many aspects quite similar.

rev200g
06-27-2008, 08:13 PM
Thanks so much for your valuable insight. I think I will demo the Aerogel 200 based on your observations. Cheers again!

Speedygonzalez
06-28-2008, 01:19 AM
^^^^ No problem, glad to help out and hopefully you will like the AG!

BAMF
06-28-2008, 09:21 AM
i got 4. count me in

snoflewis
07-01-2008, 01:57 AM
just demoed one today...i just might be sold. also demoed the mg prestige and mg prestige pro but they dont compare...

basil J
07-01-2008, 05:35 PM
I've got 3 of these now and they are the best 200 series frame that Dunlop has released since the Muscle weave series. I get more juice on my serve and more pop on my groundstrokes, but less feel at the net and a tad less spin than with the muscle weave. Overall, I am very happy I am back to the 200.

snoflewis
07-03-2008, 03:55 PM
im officially an ag200 user. got a pair today. looking to get another one towards the end of summer and maybe another 1 or 2 when they go on clearance. =)

Speedygonzalez
07-04-2008, 08:15 AM
im officially an ag200 user. got a pair today. looking to get another one towards the end of summer and maybe another 1 or 2 when they go on clearance. =)

Good choice, congrats :)!

kaztennis
07-15-2008, 04:19 AM
I'm currently using a Head Flexpoint Radical Tour in grip size 4 1/4(size 2).
If I were to go with the AG200, should I go one grip bigger or does the Dunlop grip size is the same?

0d1n
07-15-2008, 05:20 AM
im thinking about getting one. but was wondering, does this racket have a muted feel? and does the racket play crisper/stiffer than the stiffness ratings indicate? how is the ball feel compared to the mfil200?

I find it has a "crisp" feel (I have the 16x19 version)...not a muted one. Also ...yes I find it has a "crisper" feel that the stiffness ratings might indicate (the rating on mine is 62) but I find it plays slightly firmer than my Tour 10 gen 1's which were (as far as I remember) rated as 63 flex.
The fact that the string bed is slightly smaller on the AG (95 sq inches) when compared with the Tour 10 (98 sq inches) might have something to do with that also...

Matty G
08-12-2008, 11:32 AM
Hey iv just changed to the aerogel 200(18/20) from the fxp prestege mid. What do you guys recomend to string it with. Im thinking a full cp at 57 or cp/tech. x-tra dynamic byapsis at 58

logansc
08-12-2008, 11:33 AM
Hey iv just changed to the aerogel 200(18/20) from the fxp prestege mid. What do you guys recomend to string it with. Im thinking a full cp at 57 or cp/tech. x-tra dynamic byapsis at 58

Try Unique Big Hitter Blue. I hear its the exact same string as CP only $2 cheaper.

AT92292
08-12-2008, 05:14 PM
I just got my demo in today and love it I will probobly be getting a package soon so can I join?

ag200boy
08-12-2008, 05:50 PM
I WANT INTO THIS CLUB!!!

finally

zacinnc78
08-12-2008, 07:16 PM
yea...im debating on picking up one of these rackets....my main concern is the 18x20 pattern as ive always used 16x19

also wondering if im better off getting the mfil 200 because of price +string pattern...but i dont like the cosmetics as much and its a littlw stiffer and bigger headsize.....

im also wondering about the 18x20...will i like it or not?i have a loopy forehand and nice kickserve

AT92292
08-12-2008, 07:30 PM
I had the same problem I usually use the 300 but trust me just try it

AT92292
08-12-2008, 07:31 PM
and can I be in the group

ag200boy
08-13-2008, 10:32 AM
actually i have no problem generating spinn with full poly on the 18x20 string pattern

i use full 17g poly

Ian Stewart
08-13-2008, 10:49 AM
yea...im debating on picking up one of these rackets....my main concern is the 18x20 pattern as ive always used 16x19

also wondering if im better off getting the mfil 200 because of price +string pattern...but i dont like the cosmetics as much and its a littlw stiffer and bigger headsize.....

im also wondering about the 18x20...will i like it or not?i have a loopy forehand and nice kickserve

Yes you can obtain a ton of topspin from this racquet. But it all comes down to your technique. I had a hit with Greg Rusedski last year (more like he served at me and I ran out of the way) and he was using the AG200 and believe me his kick serve was plenty fine.

Plus you can get the Dunlop AG200 in a 16x19 configuration if you prefer. :)

ag200boy
08-13-2008, 11:33 AM
^^
only if you are in europe or want to pay outrageous shipping charges

zacinnc78
08-13-2008, 01:49 PM
^^
only if you are in europe or want to pay outrageous shipping charges

thats what i assumed...do u know any other way to get a new one?lol

Seacoast Stringer
08-14-2008, 10:48 AM
I was very pleasantly surprised by the racquet head speed I was able to generate with this frame. Great control (reminiscent of my old Prestiges) with nice pop and spin. The feel of this racquet is unique and reminds me of the old MW 200g. This is an excellent stick and I might be tempted............

basil J
08-20-2008, 04:41 PM
This is no Muscle weave. It tends to twist in the throat against heavy balls, The materials are much cheaper from the thin plastic butt caps to the thin easily scratched paint. I like the frame, but it does not come anywhere close to the quality materials you would find on a 200GMW, IMO one of the top 5 players frames made in the last 10 years.

Matty G
08-24-2008, 09:15 AM
Iv found the perfect string combo for this raquet. Full luxilon original 1.30 at 56. I might go a bit tighter next time. But this set up has everything spin , comfort ( feels softer than cb @58) power and so much control.

*breaksracquet
08-24-2008, 05:25 PM
count me in!!!!

Matty G
08-25-2008, 07:33 AM
http://i33.tinypic.com/anybza.jpg
Come on , Lets see yours!!

SlapShot
08-27-2008, 09:55 AM
I just picked up a pair of AG200's for days when my customized Prestiges are too much to swing. The control is fantastic on these. They're a little bit lower powered than my Prestiges, but they hit a great ball.

I don't understand people claiming that the AG200 is sluggish at all - for me, it's about as quick as I'd like a frame to be. Doubles is a dream with this stick - lots of short angles to be had, and reflex volleys are great.

Tennisguy777
08-27-2008, 10:14 AM
Since this is the AG200 thread let me ask my question here. I just received a damaged AG200 - butt cap problem. But it is strung 18 x 20 but under throat it is stamped - pattern: 16 x 19 . How is this possible it also feels lighter than the traditional AG200s I've seen.

logansc
08-27-2008, 01:26 PM
Since this is the AG200 thread let me ask my question here. I just received a damaged AG200 - butt cap problem. But it is strung 18 x 20 but under throat it is stamped - pattern: 16 x 19 . How is this possible it also feels lighter than the traditional AG200s I've seen.

They make a 16 x 19 model that is a bit lighter than the other. They're similar to the MF200 and the MF200 16x19 but I both AG200s come from the same molds.

Steve F.
08-27-2008, 02:17 PM
Since this is the AG200 thread let me ask my question here. I just received a damaged AG200 - butt cap problem. But it is strung 18 x 20 but under throat it is stamped - pattern: 16 x 19 . How is this possible it also feels lighter than the traditional AG200s I've seen.

I'd start by popping it on a scale, right after you weigh one of yours that feels "right." If the weight matches the specs for the 16x19, you may have gotten a one-off or custom drill. Get it off the boards?

Tennisguy777
08-27-2008, 02:41 PM
just bought from hob0magic001 and under butt cap foam is broken it was duct taped. he isn't responding to emails.

rev200g
08-27-2008, 05:15 PM
Well, I had the 18x20 version out on demo and was able to compare it to my Revelation 200g, Muscleweave 200g and a M-fil 200. I would have to say that it plays very similar to the Muscleweave. It is a very comfortable racquet to play with. There is plenty of feel and solidity but is slightly more head light than the Muscleweave. Definitely a player's racquet where you must take full swings at the ball to get the most out of it.

Having said that, my Revelation 200g is still my favourite. It is stiffer and more responsive for me. I can handle hard and heavy shots better with the Rev than the other 2. It still retains good feel for the ball on volleys and more delicate shots.

The M-fil 200 felt the most different with a more heavy head balance. It was more powerful due to this but felt more mute than the others. Very good plowthrough and stability but just less agile.

My 2 cents! Cheers!:)

CycloneSh0t
09-03-2008, 04:59 PM
count me in! i'm still new to the ag 200 but i dunno wat strings to use? for more power and spin and comfort? best for the power and spin? No natural gut>< can't afford

ls206
09-04-2008, 05:23 AM
Hi, I've also recently bought an AG200.
I haven't managed to hit with it properly yet but I've played a few volleys in my garden
First impressions are great! I'm loving the feel of the 18x20 and the control in very noticeable. I can't wait to hit with it properly.
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o260/louis_sawtell/DSC00683.jpg

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o260/louis_sawtell/DSC00685.jpg

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o260/louis_sawtell/DSC00686.jpg

http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o260/louis_sawtell/DSC00687.jpg

I can get rid of images if they take up too much space?

CycloneSh0t
09-04-2008, 07:40 PM
wat strings do all of u guys ag 200 use? which do u find works well?

dtrain
09-05-2008, 12:48 AM
I own this racquet but it's not what i normally use. I do like to hit with it, I liked it stock at first, but then i found that I can't get much power from it. I added about 8 grams of led tape to the 9 and 3 on the racquet. I feel that it feels a lot more solid on the volleys and the serves feel better as well. I have mixed reviews on the ground strokes, the added weight I don't have as much racquet head speed but I like how it feels like the ball pancakes on my racquets when i hit it.

Matty G
09-08-2008, 10:25 AM
I have been playing with these raquets for about a month now so i thought i might tell you how i find they play best.
-I find it preforms best with some lead at 3 and 9 (i have 4 maby more soon)
-My best string combo so far is bbo @ 56 (57 next time) and going to try alu also and then going to settle with one. I find the raquets preform best with full poly. I also really liked the raquet with full multi (60+) but durability was a problem.

gflyer
09-11-2008, 10:22 AM
I totally love my two AG 200. I'll join the club!

gflyer
09-11-2008, 10:23 AM
anybody tried BB Ace 18?

hoodjem
09-11-2008, 05:12 PM
Sorry if this is off-topic slightly, but I use BBA 1.12 in my AG100.

I have to say it works great: crisp, gobs of spin, amazing durabilty, no movement, nice touch on volleys, wonderful serves.

zacinnc78
09-11-2008, 06:42 PM
count me in ...ag200 18x20 strung with nrg2 16 @55
had my first hit with it today but im not taking too much stock in today because it was drizzling the whole time and the balls were not new......i was hitting long alot and shanking backhands lol also racket didnt feel very poppy felt kinda mushy...i blame that probably on the nrg2 + the rain and wet balls ...gonna play again tomorrow if its nice ill use new balls and see what happens

Tennisguy777
09-11-2008, 07:39 PM
I am officially in now, got mine about week ago! Good suggestion on string selection, was going to go with full synthetic gut but instead I'll put Big hitter Blue 17. Anyone try BHB 17 with this stick? Also I am finding it kinda of hefty a little too hefty compared to my AG300 anything I can do to solve this besides pumping iron!

zacinnc78
09-12-2008, 02:55 PM
it is heavy aint it?i played it again today ....weather was so freakin humid i was wore out by the third game...still not a good day to judge it but i was still hitting the ball all over the place except for serves ...they seem improved

hoodjem
09-24-2008, 11:11 AM
Has anyone hit with both an AG200 and an AG100?

How much alike do they play? Can you compare?

basil J
09-24-2008, 11:45 AM
Two different racquets. 200 is more even balnced, heavier 20 mm beam. Great versatile frame. I like it for all court tennis. AG100-Thinner beam, plays much lighter, open string pattern, produces more variety of shot, but IMO a much lighter ball and the shots don't go through the court like an AG 200. I played both frames in stock form and I know most guys lead up the 100, but I always do my comparisons on stock racquets. I did a whole in-depth comparison of both frames in June on this board if you would like to read more.

hoodjem
09-24-2008, 02:19 PM
^^^And you chose the AG200 as preferable?

Tennisguy777
09-24-2008, 09:17 PM
AG200 is a Beast. I played 2 sets of singles today didn't think I could do that yet and I did well only lost my serve 3 times won both sets 6-2, 6-2. I played very well with it first time playing more than a set of singles with this stick. Excellent spin potential if you hit the ball correctly, a lot mote topspin and control than my LM radical and nBlades. Great serve and volley stick. Good heft and stability, really can't complain, my drop shots are much better with this stick, they actually drop, with the AG300 they were like mini-lobs they popped up. Just takes extra preparation on take back that is all after a few weeks you should be able to get used to weight.

urvasive
09-30-2008, 03:13 PM
im changing rackets. I will take myself away from the 200 club, although it is a great racket. I have several forsale if anyone is interested. 4 3/8 thanh0724[at]hotmail[dot]com

Matty G
10-21-2008, 11:10 AM
Does anyone have any experience with the ag200 and Pro Supex Premier Ace and Big Ace? If not what are your current set-ups?

mozzer
10-21-2008, 11:21 AM
My dad just won one of these in a veterans tournament, but he says its too heavy for him. Looks like i got an early christmas present!

ls206
10-21-2008, 11:37 AM
woah lucky you!
Yea I've had a few people pick up my 200 and say "oo, heavy racquet?!" is it that heavy??

zoobears
10-31-2008, 03:59 PM
Hi, for those who have demoed, which is better for your money? the AG200 of the MG prestige MP?

Tennisguy777
11-02-2008, 05:19 PM
Is 17 gauge best for the 200? Anyone can recommend a soft string something that won't feel boardy at high tension for AG200. Currently using full Big hitter blue 17 at 60# and on the other one synthetic gut 17 at 68# for some reason I suspect high tension loss after about a week on the synthetic gut one the other one the poly holds tension well.

Matty G
11-03-2008, 06:27 AM
Just orded my third ag200! Im getting it strung with weiss cannon silverstring at 58. Anyone tried ss in the ag200?

Matt21
11-03-2008, 07:59 AM
Is 17 gauge best for the 200? Anyone can recommend a soft string something that won't feel boardy at high tension for AG200. Currently using full Big hitter blue 17 at 60# and on the other one synthetic gut 17 at 68# for some reason I suspect high tension loss after about a week on the synthetic gut one the other one the poly holds tension well.

If you want soft, try Technifibre X-One Biphase or Gamma Asterisk @ 17g. I've experimented with different tensions with the 200 and IMO, if you're looking for good topspin/slice/ball bite, unless your technique is so supreme that you can play 18x20s @ high tension, I'd suggest stringing this one below 50 lbs at a tension that allows you to pocket the ball without the trampoline effect. I just haven't found anything that works for me above 49lbs in the mains with this one.

I recently purchased a couple of Head MG Prestiges (both in mid and midplus) and the Prestige's 18x20 seems to be more spin friendly than that of the Dunlops. Sorta like the Wilson 18x20s (the new K6.1s and the Blades -but then again, everyone knows the Blades were Wilson's attempt @ Prestiges: just a tad short there Wilson). :)

Matt21
11-03-2008, 08:05 AM
One more thing: I've had my AG200 for almost two years and I must say, the AG100 is far and away a better bat than the AG200. Though the head size is smaller, the sweet spot is ridiculously larger and honestly, I frame more balls with the 200 than with the 100.

AG100 = Better serves, better returns and better spin.
AG200 = Better accuracy, a tad more "bottom out" effect on the slice.

Arm Pain: You really need lead on both these to absorb some of the frame shock with the AG line. That has been my biggest gripe with the AGs.

robertg06
11-03-2008, 10:33 AM
Can I join? I have a AG 200 and it is currently at the stringers getting some redcode into it...Best racket I've ever had.

Tennisguy777
11-06-2008, 10:00 PM
It is weird I find that it feels better with Big hitter blue 17 at 60# than synthetic gut at 68#. Also it has much more control with the Big hitter blue at 60#.

Tennisguy777
11-11-2008, 08:25 PM
I just added 10 grams to mine I'll see how it plays. I am trying to make it more solid at net and ground strokes. 5g at 3 and 9 and 5 grams under grip.

basil J
11-19-2008, 06:10 PM
I used the 200GMW for years without issue. I used this frame for 4 months and developed bad tennis elbow. At 47 , I never had this happen before. The 4 1/2" grip ran small IMO and the frame felt like it tended to twist against heavy hitters. I reluctantly put it down and went to a yonex TI 80 with a 4 5/8" and the tennis elbow was gone in 3 weeks. I took an AG out for hit the other night and fell in love with it again. Next morning, my elbow was throbbing. Bummer, cause I loved the way this frame performed. The TI 80 has been fine, I have been using the yonex without issue for over 2 months now.

The Dampener
11-19-2008, 06:29 PM
I used the 200GMW for years without issue. I used this frame for 4 months and developed bad tennis elbow. At 47 , I never had this happen before. The 4 1/2" grip ran small IMO and the frame felt like it tended to twist against heavy hitters. I reluctantly put it down and went to a yonex TI 80 with a 4 5/8" and the tennis elbow was gone in 3 weeks. I took an AG out for hit the other night and fell in love with it again. Next morning, my elbow was throbbing. Bummer, cause I loved the way this frame performed. The TI 80 has been fine, I have been using the yonex without issue for over 2 months now.

Basil, weren't you a charter member of the Redondo club? I'm surprised a TE sufferer like you doesn't go running back to ProKennex. That's how I survived my elbow ailments.

basil J
11-20-2008, 01:21 PM
I am not a TE "Sufferer". The aerogel 200 inflamed my elbow. It is the only racquet I have ever used that has created this situation. I stopped using the Redondo because I found it too low powered and the flex was too high for my game. It was a godsend when my shoulder became arthritic, but I find the Yonex 002T and the TI80 just as comfrotable with more pop and the same control. Believe me when I say I liked the performance of the AG 200, it just created a unique situation for me. I loved my redondo's, but I love my Yonexes just as much if not more, and frankly I have gotten tired of jumping to different frames every 6 months. I want to stick with one mold, one brand and just play without thinking about what I have in my hand.

jhusein
11-21-2008, 11:04 AM
I am not a TE "Sufferer". The aerogel 200 inflamed my elbow. It is the only racquet I have ever used that has created this situation. I stopped using the Redondo because I found it too low powered and the flex was too high for my game. It was a godsend when my shoulder became arthritic, but I find the Yonex 002T and the TI80 just as comfrotable with more pop and the same control. Believe me when I say I liked the performance of the AG 200, it just created a unique situation for me. I loved my redondo's, but I love my Yonexes just as much if not more, and frankly I have gotten tired of jumping to different frames every 6 months. I want to stick with one mold, one brand and just play without thinking about what I have in my hand.

That is exactly why I sold the AG200 that I got from you. It did not take long before my E started to hurt, its still does after more than a month of not playing with it. I never had TE until I hit with this racquet. To me, AG200 = TE period.

Matty G
11-21-2008, 11:33 AM
Has anyone done any mods to there raquets?
What are your current string set-ups?

game set match 46 TIMES!!
02-18-2009, 05:05 PM
ill join! i got 3 of these bad boys for 55$ new! my sponsorship! great racquet my coach wants to switch (and hes in love with his racquet). great racquet feels like it will be good with poly/syn gut.

Tennisguy777
02-19-2009, 08:24 PM
I got 2 AG200 looking to sell in 5/8 if you interested hit me up! I am switching back to AG300.

Tennisguy777
02-19-2009, 08:29 PM
Also, feeling very little amount of pain in my elbow from the AG200 after the demo, is that normal ? My elbow will adjust to the new racquet ?

yeah take it slow at first there is a big weight difference between nBlade and AG200 I would know I have both. Also you might need to string a little lower on the AG200 compared to what you stung at on the blade. It is normal to feel sore and have pain for a few days until your arm gets used to it but if it continues past a week and is getting worse then stop using it as you might develop tennis elbow and shoulder problems.

Power Player
03-12-2009, 04:18 PM
I just picked up an AG 200 for 60 dollars. I wanted a compliment to my 335, and this racquet so far has delivered. You can really rear back and crush the ball.

It feels amazing when you hit the ball..very smooth. I actually get more spin out of this racquet then I read in the reviews. I had to get used to that, but you can really drive the ball with topspin and have it pop off the court.

It has a much different feel at contact then the 335. I am still more accurate and comfortable with the 335, but after hitting with the 200, I got used to it, and was hitting consistently. It is very stable racquet, and I got a great deal on it.

zidane339
03-12-2009, 05:59 PM
Sign me up! I'm loving the AG200 right now..the 18x20 pattern really fits into my flat game, and flat serves are great with it!

hsv91
05-15-2009, 11:41 AM
I played the AE 200 (18x20) with the Luxilon Alu Power 16L(1.25mm) and 60lbs!

It is a great racket, fantastic!

At the other AE-Player: Do you use the Dunlop-Vibrationdampener with the racquet or not a dampener?

Thanks

Matty G
05-15-2009, 11:50 AM
I played the AE 200 (18x20) with the Luxilon Alu Power 16L(1.25mm) and 60lbs!

It is a great racket, fantastic!

At the other AE-Player: Do you use the Dunlop-Vibrationdampener with the racquet or not a dampener?

Thanks

Very similar set-up to me . Im using my AG200's with Alu at 56. PEFRECT!

I used to use the square dunlop dampener but now use the fire one from wilson.

hsv91
05-16-2009, 08:36 AM
Hello,

is also the Dunlop Dampener good?


Thanks

fortunecookiesjc
05-16-2009, 07:50 PM
No the dunlop logo dampener (personally) think it's horrible
doesnt do much for me

rubberbands or O damperners always

hsv91
05-17-2009, 06:24 AM
No the dunlop logo dampener (personally) think it's horrible
doesnt do much for me

rubberbands or O damperners always

Which Dunlop-Dampeners are better?

1.) http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31y16XozvKL._AA280_.jpg

2.) http://www.tennis-point.de/templates/tennispoint/images/produktbilder/0167000123400000/0167000123400000_500.jpg

Thanks

fortunecookiesjc
05-17-2009, 06:54 AM
The one I used was the first one and it still made a "ping" noise, the dampening only made a small margin of a difference
Idonno it still provides the feel but I like the Babolat Os and Pete Os better

Looking at dunlop 2 it looks like it would kill all feel of the ball

hsv91
05-17-2009, 09:26 AM
Hello,

why we heard, when the Profis (Blake, Federer etc.) play without a dampener a "ping" noise?

They didn't use a dampener, why we heard that we would use it?

GinoGinelli
08-04-2009, 04:10 PM
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raffi!
08-07-2009, 11:26 AM
Lately I've been demoing for a new, heftier racquet. Tried MG Prestige Mid along with the KBlade Tour, and though I preferred the KBlade I came to the conclusion that I am not quite good enough to be using a 93 sq in head.

Thus, today I will be demoing the AG200.

SWEET.

PatrickB
08-08-2009, 04:32 PM
My demo of the 16x19 4d200 arrived yesterday and I've had a ball machine and a two sets with it, the 18x20 4d200, and the Prince O3 White I currently use. I've also tried the 4d300t, Exo3 Graphite 100, Speedport Pro White, and some others. Overall, I prefer the 4d200 18x20 - it's as comfortable as the O3 white, but crisper, more stable, and with better feel, too.

The 16x19 was an interesting contrast to the 18x20 - it's somewhat lighter (specs say 10g), and between that and the open pattern, a little less controlled and less stable (they were both strung with multifilament - the 16x19 strung probably about 4# tighter). If I was a racquet customizer, I might be tempted to lead up the 16x19 to give it some more stability (I liked it better than the 300), but stock I prefer the 18x20 to all the others and will be buying a few soon and stringing them with X1 biphase. What tensions are people stringing 4d200 18x20s at?

shell
08-08-2009, 05:57 PM
My demo of the 16x19 4d200 arrived yesterday and I've had a ball machine and a two sets with it, the 18x20 4d200, and the Prince O3 White I currently use. I've also tried the 4d300t, Exo3 Graphite 100, Speedport Pro White, and some others. Overall, I prefer the 4d200 18x20 - it's as comfortable as the O3 white, but crisper, more stable, and with better feel, too.

The 16x19 was an interesting contrast to the 18x20 - it's somewhat lighter (specs say 10g), and between that and the open pattern, a little less controlled and less stable (they were both strung with multifilament - the 16x19 strung probably about 4# tighter). If I was a racquet customizer, I might be tempted to lead up the 16x19 to give it some more stability (I liked it better than the 300), but stock I prefer the 18x20 to all the others and will be buying a few soon and stringing them with X1 biphase. What tensions are people stringing 4d200 18x20s at?

Patrick, where do you play? I am planning on demoing the 200 16z19 at some point. Good to hear your impressions.

PatrickB
08-08-2009, 06:05 PM
Patrick, where do you play? I am planning on demoing the 200 16z19 at some point. Good to hear your impressions.

Tennis Club of Albuquerque, mainly, though I'm taking lessons at Lobo Club now and liking that a lot. I'm a low 3.5 player at this point, but working hard to try and improve.

shell
08-08-2009, 06:11 PM
Tennis Club of Albuquerque, mainly, though I'm taking lessons at Lobo Club now and liking that a lot. I'm a low 3.5 player at this point, but working hard to try and improve.

Ha ha! Me too - TCA anyway. We will see each other! I'll look for the Dunlop.

PatrickB
08-08-2009, 07:09 PM
Ha ha! Me too - TCA anyway. We will see each other! I'll look for the Dunlop.

Catch me this week before I have to return it (I'm playing Punk 'n Relic tomorrow with my 6-year-old son) and you can try the 16x18 AG 4d200.

jonaron
08-09-2009, 12:56 PM
I heard a few minor comparisons between the 16x19 and the 18x20. How about weight and swingweight and other feel etc?
I tried a 200 18x200 today and am ready to buy, but curious if i should order 16x19 instead,which is what i tend to prefer. aerogel original, NOT 4d.

Gugafan
08-09-2009, 01:46 PM
I have briefly hit with the AG 200 18x20, and found it relatively spin friendly. I know Monfils uses a dense string pattern (EXO Rebel) and hits with alot of spin.... Does the AG200 provide that adequate spin potential to hit loopy forehands from defensive positions of the court??

Calvet
08-11-2009, 09:51 AM
I would like to be part of this wonderful club racket.
My game was a big change after we started playing with ela.Ultimamente'm only thinking of placing them a few more grams.


thanks

hoodjem
08-11-2009, 06:39 PM
Dunlop 4D A200 16x19:Kirschbaum Pro Line II @51/53 lbs
Dunlop 4D A200 16x19:Kirschbaum Pro Line II @54/56 lbs

That seems low for a 95.? (I use these tensions in my AG100.)

wksoh
08-15-2009, 09:53 PM
51/53 means mains is lower? thanks

MomentumGT
08-15-2009, 09:57 PM
Seems to be the hoop of the ag200 is pretty stiff so I've lowered my tension as well to 54lbs with a full bed of poly ranging from brands as cyberflash, unique big hitter, genesis black magic, and good old polylon.

-Jon

wksoh
08-15-2009, 10:24 PM
Also, feeling very little amount of pain in my elbow from the AG200 after the demo, is that normal ? My elbow will adjust to the new racquet ?

Yes.. I got bad Tennis Elbow in my 2nd outing with AG200@ synthetic 58lbs.

I waited 4 months for my Elbow to heal slightly then lowered the tension to 56lbs and this time no pain but balls were spraying all over. Now I'm at 57lbs - I'm stuck at this tension. But the racket is great.

Cey
08-15-2009, 10:36 PM
To Hoodjem or others who have used the AG200 16x19,

How is this frame for serving? Baselining?

I am a junior and love the control, power, spin and feel of the Wilson pro staff 6.0 and with a bit of lead on the handle and a leather grip the ag200 16x19 would have a similar spec.

If possible, can anyone compare the wilson with the dunlop?

hoodjem
08-16-2009, 07:48 AM
Yes.. I got bad Tennis Elbow in my 2nd outing with AG200@ synthetic 58lbs.

I waited 4 months for my Elbow to heal slightly then lowered the tension to 56lbs and this time no pain but balls were spraying all over. Now I'm at 57lbs - I'm stuck at this tension. But the racket is great.

Four months! Damn!

I'm at about one month now, and I'm hating it and itching to play!

diehard6.0
08-16-2009, 02:03 PM
To Hoodjem or others who have used the AG200 16x19,

How is this frame for serving? Baselining?

I am a junior and love the control, power, spin and feel of the Wilson pro staff 6.0 and with a bit of lead on the handle and a leather grip the ag200 16x19 would have a similar spec.

If possible, can anyone compare the wilson with the dunlop?

I have made successful transition from 6.0 95 to AG200 16*19.
I added 6gs on the hoop and replaced the cushion grip with a leather grip.
With that setup, both racquets looks quite similar. I hardly felt any need to adjust swing style in rotating the two racquets.

However, there are some subtle differences.

1. AG200 feels firmer and has slightly more power off the baseline.
2. AG200's sweetspot is larger and positioned higher.
3. Both are great serving racquets, but to me, AG200 was easier to serve with.
4. AG200 has better directional control.
5. I volleyed better with 6.0 95.

Gugafan
08-16-2009, 04:44 PM
Can anyone compare the AG 200 (18X20) to the FXP/Microgel Prestige MP???

I only hit with my friends AG200 briefly, and the plowthru and stability on returns was exceptional.

mrmo1115
08-16-2009, 04:47 PM
AG > AG 4D in every aspect. Although I like the 300 tour more than the 200 AG

Gugafan
08-16-2009, 05:00 PM
mrmo I am suprised you prefer the 300 tour over the AG 200. The specs of the 300 tour seem abit on the light side.

mrmo1115
08-16-2009, 06:21 PM
mrmo I am suprised you prefer the 300 tour over the AG 200. The specs of the 300 tour seem abit on the light side.

I was actually looking for a lighter racquet that maintained the control of a heavier racquet... That was what I was looking for in a new racquet switching away from my Flexpoint Prestige MP. I felt that the 300 tour gave me some added pop and the same control, maybe a bit less.

canuckfan72
08-16-2009, 09:33 PM
Hey everybody,

i going to try and string my 200 AG with Wilson NXT Tour 17 @ 63lbs. Anybody have a similar setup to this? and what do you think it will perform with my setup???.

cheers, canuckfan72

Matt21
08-16-2009, 09:57 PM
Can anyone compare the AG 200 (18X20) to the FXP/Microgel Prestige MP???

I only hit with my friends AG200 briefly, and the plowthru and stability on returns was exceptional.

I own both... No comparison between the FXP/MG Prestige MP and the AG200 overall. The Prestiges are spin-friendly, but they can tend to get pushed around in heavy hitting. On the flip side, the AG200 is a heavyweight in terms of spin and hitting a heavy ball. I've got mine strung with Head Ultra Tour 16 @ 51 lbs. and I give my opponents all sorts of trouble.

Cey
08-17-2009, 12:32 AM
I have made successful transition from 6.0 95 to AG200 16*19.
I added 6gs on the hoop and replaced the cushion grip with a leather grip.
With that setup, both racquets looks quite similar. I hardly felt any need to adjust swing style in rotating the two racquets.

However, there are some subtle differences.

1. AG200 feels firmer and has slightly more power off the baseline.
2. AG200's sweetspot is larger and positioned higher.
3. Both are great serving racquets, but to me, AG200 was easier to serve with.
4. AG200 has better directional control.
5. I volleyed better with 6.0 95.

thanks a lot diehard6.0, great help

i'm probably going to use the 6.0 till the end of the year then change. its great to know that the 200 is a good racquet to go to. hopefully they are still around then or at least the new model with leather an lead is just as good/similar to the 6.0.

tlimster
08-17-2009, 09:32 AM
Sign me up for the club. I have purchased 3 of the AG200 18x20 on clearance. Switched from PSTs, which got a little wild if I hit a hard flat ball. Since my wrist was starting to hurt from putting topspin on the ball on late shots, I went with a racket with less power so I could hit it flat or with topspin at my option. I'm still finding decent topspin with this racket when I have time to set up, but it is definitely more of a flat ball hitting racket. Serves are more consistent. Currently strung with Tecnifibre Multi-feel 17 at 60lbs, and that seems to work pretty well. I like it better than the racket strung with Klip Legend Gut 17 at 60lbs., which has surprisingly lost tension faster and is fraying quickly with little play. I hope this lasts, but really like the PB10 mid and Ignite.

GinoGinelli
08-18-2009, 02:08 PM
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Gugafan
08-18-2009, 02:42 PM
Anyone tried a blue gear hybrid in their 18x20?

I did a 57 (BG mains) / 60 (prince duraflex) and think I could be on to something here. It had the solid dense feel I like but with mentalist spin & slices. Tension felt waaaay too low though...

Gino, I understand you used to use a FXP Prestige MP...How does this compare with your AG200???...I really enjoyed my brief hit with the AG200, but overall does it perform better then the FXP Prestige MP??

BTW when I played with my friends AG200, it was strung with a full set of BBO at about the mid tension. The Spin potential was great for a dense string pattern, and I found some good pop on groundies.

mrmo1115
08-18-2009, 02:48 PM
Gino, I understand you used to use a FXP Prestige MP...How does this compare with your AG200???...I really enjoyed my brief hit with the AG200, but overall does it perform better then the FXP Prestige MP??

BTW when I played with my friends AG200, it was strung with a full set of BBO at about the mid tension. The Spin potential was great for a dense string pattern, and I found some good pop on groundies.

Too bad that Dunlop can't give me the AG 200 as apart of the DSquad program because it got discontinued. I really like it, although it could get some power, thats why I ended up with the 300 Tour.

GinoGinelli
08-19-2009, 01:47 AM
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Gugafan
08-19-2009, 03:28 AM
Thats how my AG200 was with the blue gear. I did the tension too low so it was trampolining a bit & some softer multi crosses would have been better than the cheapo syn gut. I could feel I was close to perfection though... !

I only sold my fxp because I got it in L2 and it came up way smaller than I thought (it was half price to be fair!), not keen on wraps or loads of grips

What strings have you tried on your FXP prestige?

I am currently using Pro Hurricane 17 with Gosen HY-Sheep crosses. The racket feels abit underpowered with this setup, largely due to the cheap muted synthetic string. I also have a MGPMP, and my favourite setups have been Big ace (1.25) and Spiky Shark both full poly string jobs.

The FXP MP, is a solid racket from all areas of the court but the Head grip shape ****es me off when adjusting to my sw forehand. I might give the DUNLOP 200G hotmelt a trial.

wksoh
08-19-2009, 04:03 AM
Four months! Damn!

I'm at about one month now, and I'm hating it and itching to play!

Hi, when you state DunlopAG100 at 53/56.
Does it mean your mains is at 53 lbs? (lower than crosses).

Thanks and good luck to your elbow... ^^

Calvet
08-19-2009, 05:50 PM
Dunlop 4D A200 16x19:Kirschbaum Pro Line II @51/53 lbs
Dunlop 4D A200 16x19:Kirschbaum Pro Line II @54/56 lbs

That seems low for a 95.? (I use these tensions in my AG100.)

'm Testing lower tensions. My next stress will 50/52lbs
So far this fantastic play with 51/53lbs still with excellent control.

GinoGinelli
08-20-2009, 07:25 AM
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PatrickB
08-20-2009, 07:29 AM
What are people stringing 4d200 18x20s at assuming a non-poly string job? I've been using a full bed of X1 biphase in my O3 white strung at 58/55, and now that Im moving to the 4d 200, I'm wondering what to have it strung at...

Matt21
08-20-2009, 01:12 PM
I've got one strung with Head Ultra 16 @ 51 lbs and it's pretty good. I can't say that I love full poly though. I think I like a blend. In either case, my favorite setup was 17guage Babolat Addiction or Gamma Asterisk both @ 49 mains / 47 crosses. I get a lot of height on my serve, a lot of topspin and good control. My only problem there is that tension works best in the fall/winter months. In the summer, I have to go higher in the tension.

wksoh
08-20-2009, 11:31 PM
Hi all, can someone help me? When somebody post tension as 51/53 lbs.
Am I correct to say the mains is strung at 51 lbs? Thanks

Keifers
08-21-2009, 12:19 AM
Hi all, can someone help me? When somebody post tension as 51/53 lbs.
Am I correct to say the mains is strung at 51 lbs? Thanks
Yes. The convention is mains/crosses.

wksoh
08-22-2009, 12:53 AM
Yes. The convention is mains/crosses.

Thanks for helping me understand.. :)

Keifers
08-22-2009, 01:06 AM
No problemo. Glad to do it...

Gugafan
11-25-2009, 03:48 PM
Count me in...Just purchased one of these beautys brand new in a grip 2. Making the switch from a fxp prestige MP.

Might take it for a hit tomorrow. Though tempted in cutting out the factory string and stringing up with big banger original, felt great in my friends racket. What tension do you guys recommend??...I used to string most polys at 52 lbs in my fxp prestige mp, thinking of going for the same kind of tension.

Xenakis
11-25-2009, 03:56 PM
I just bought one too =)

An Aerogel 200 (grip 3, will build it to a 4) from that big sports shop in the UK that was selling them for 50 (the one that owns Dunlop and Slazenger and various other brands), will have to wait for it to be delivered.

Thought it was worth punting for one as they are going so cheap and will be out of stock soon.

BTW Gugafan, I played with your old FXP Prestige tonight, getting used to it, nice frame and the strings seem ok to me, some life in them yet (compared to my dead Alu roughs in my Yonex anyway.)

I put about 30g of lead under the grip to make it more headlight, feels more familiar now.

Does anyone know what factory strings will be in it? (sorry if I missed it earlier in the thread, lots of posts to read.)

Gugafan
11-25-2009, 04:16 PM
Xenakis I got mine from sports direct in the bullring for the same price. If you have the time, get down there. I think there was one with no plastic on the handle going for 30!!, not for me as it was a grip 3 only.

The AG200 has quite a substantial swingweight, hope I can manage swinging it around after long rallies...String looks pretty crap to me (Dunlop m-fil tour 16).

Have you tried serving with the FXP Prestige MP???....I was really able to serve some serious bombs with that racket.

Xenakis
11-25-2009, 04:29 PM
Xenakis I got mine from sports direct in the bullring for the same price. If you have the time, get down there. I think there was one with no plastic on the handle going for 30!!, not for me as it was a grip 3 only.

The AG200 has quite a substantial swingweight, hope I can manage swinging it around after long rallies...String looks pretty crap to me (Dunlop m-fil tour 16).

Have you tried serving with the FXP Prestige MP???....I was really able to serve some serious bombs with that racket.

Hmm, I just ordered one new from them mail order in a grip 3, could cancel it and try the Bull Ring tomorrow (possibly the worlds most unpleasant shop though, no space to walk and always packed with impolite people.)

Will consider if I can stomach going in there tomorrow, when you say there was no plastic on the handle you mean the shrink wrap stuff over the grip?, nothing actually wrong with the racquet? (was it deffo a Aerogel 200?, saw some Mfil 200s the last time I was in there, no Aerogels though IIRC)

Re the string, thanks for the info, not a well reviewed string, this is from stringforum.net

Came factory strung on my M-Fil 300. It is a terrible string, no redeeming qualities whatsoever.

Might try Kirschbaum Pro Line 2 in it at a medium tension, see how that goes.

Xenakis
11-25-2009, 04:35 PM
Oh sorry, re serves with the FXP, very nice when I hit the sweetspot but still getting used to it a bit. Was tempted to get my RQiS 1 tour out a points tonight but stuck with the FXP and it paid off in the end, it's almost as if the frame does cup the ball a bit more (perhaps the tech isn't always a con)

Gugafan
11-25-2009, 04:38 PM
Will consider if I can stomach going in there tomorrow, when you say there was no plastic on the handle you mean the shrink wrap stuff over the grip?, nothing actually wrong with the racquet? (was it deffo a Aerogel 200?, saw some Mfil 200s the last time I was in there, no Aerogels though IIRC)

Re the string, thanks for the info, not a well reviewed string, this is from stringforum.net

Came factory strung on my M-Fil 300. It is a terrible string, no redeeming qualities whatsoever.

Might try Kirschbaum Pro Line 2 in it at a medium tension, see how that goes.

The racket was fine, just no wrapping over what looked an untouched new grip. I am pretty sure there was only one left, and there was a 30 sticker on the grip. Whether this was the actual price, or someone was fooling around and put the sticker on the racket I dont know...Nevertherless, I would expect them to give you some discount from 50 considering the racket has no cardboard product info and plastic wrap missing over grip.

Hopefully , I will post a review on the racket sometime this week.

Xenakis
11-25-2009, 04:42 PM
The racket was fine, just no wrapping over what looked an untouched new grip. I am pretty sure there was only one left, and there was a 30 sticker on the grip. Whether this was the actual price, or someone was fooling around and put the sticker on the racket I dont know...Nevertherless, I would expect them to give you some discount from 50 considering the racket has no cardboard product info and plastic wrap missing over grip.

Hopefully , I will post a review on the racket sometime this week.

I just had a look at how to cancel the order and apparently I can't do it until I receive the goods (can't see an option to cancel before than anyway), not sure I want to go and buy one in town and then wait for the other one to be delivered and send it back for a refund (plus I have to pay the postage.)

Might just go with the mail order one, it will be factory fresh I suppose (hopefully.)

stoo
11-26-2009, 10:53 AM
I've been reading a lot of the posts involved with this racquet and I'm actually surprised at how the popularity for this stick seems to have died down as compared to the AG300. The fact that you rarely see any posted for sale in the "For Sale" threads leads me to believe it is a classic "keeper" amongst racquets.

I love this racquet and will be using it for a very long time.

aggfan
11-26-2009, 01:35 PM
Count me in...Just purchased one of these beautys brand new in a grip 2. Making the switch from a fxp prestige MP.

Might take it for a hit tomorrow. Though tempted in cutting out the factory string and stringing up with big banger original, felt great in my friends racket. What tension do you guys recommend??...I used to string most polys at 52 lbs in my fxp prestige mp, thinking of going for the same kind of tension.


Gugafan, So which one you bought is it 4d 200 (18x20)? I've also been on the same path as you liked the Prestige's but the HEAD grips make me go crazy. I've recently switched to the Dunlop 4d 200 (18x20) and I'm loving it. Just for comparison I also demoed the Prince Rebel, didn't like it much it feels a bit inconsistent on the groundies when going for a big cross court or a down the line winner. I'll like to heard your thoughts on the Dunlop as well and also if you tried the Rebel.

Hidious
11-26-2009, 02:30 PM
I've been reading a lot of the posts involved with this racquet and I'm actually surprised at how the popularity for this stick seems to have died down as compared to the AG300. The fact that you rarely see any posted for sale in the "For Sale" threads leads me to believe it is a classic "keeper" amongst racquets.

I love this racquet and will be using it for a very long time.

Aerogel 200 is a truly amazing frame when you have the energy to exploit it's potential but it will punish you if you don't put enough effort into it. I've played this frame for a while and i found it to be very uncompromising on those days when feeling a little slower and tired or just not in the best tennis mood. Laziness and unpolished strokes will have severe consequences with this one.

But, bring your A game and it's an absolute beast.

Xenakis
11-26-2009, 03:49 PM
I should get mine tomorrow hopefully (if the postie can find my house, not that easy for various reasons), hoping it feels quite head light (stats say it is but that doesn't always add up in terms of feel for some reason, that could just be my ineptitude though.)

Gugafan
11-27-2009, 03:33 AM
Took mine for a hit with the factory strings today. Very heavy stick, found it difficult to explode with my forehand on the run. To be honest it was strung with the worse string ever. No feel, pop or spin whatsoever. Not worth taking it for another hit, until I stick some nice soft co-poly in there.

Xenakis
11-27-2009, 05:10 AM
Got mine today. Brand new in nice head cover with string dampener, also got a free mug!??. Feels nice, strings do seem pretty naff but not hit with it yet, will do later.

Xenakis
11-27-2009, 01:00 PM
Hit briefly with the AG200 tonight, a few serves and groundstrokes were enough to know the factory strings are horrible but the racquet feels nice. Will take it to be restrung tomorrow hopefully (will try a multi/poly hybrid I think)

z_z
11-27-2009, 04:22 PM
Got mine today. Brand new in nice head cover with string dampener, also got a free mug!??. Feels nice, strings do seem pretty naff but not hit with it yet, will do later.

Wow you got a free mug? Is it a Dunlop aerogel 4d mug?????? lol

jimbo333
11-27-2009, 05:31 PM
Is it a sportsdirect.com mug LOL:)

Xenakis
11-27-2009, 07:48 PM
Is it a sportsdirect.com mug LOL:)

Yes and it's vast, you could probably eat your breakfast cereal out of it.

z_z
11-29-2009, 05:20 AM
Anyone replaced their 4d 200 16 x 19 grip with a leather grip?

Xenakis
12-01-2009, 03:43 PM
Hit some serves with my now properly strung AG200 today (Alu power mains, Babs Conquest crosses, 56/57.)

I like it, headlight and solid and not that heavy overall really (not compared to a couple of other racquets I have with lead on them anyway.)

Was going to do some drills and doubles sets with it tonight but it rained a lot so I used my Head FXP prestige instead (a more well weathered racquet, didn't want to 'blood' my brand new and shiny AG200 in the cold and rain.)

Intend to hit with it as soon as there is a dry day/night session.

jimbo333
12-01-2009, 04:54 PM
Intend to hit with it as soon as there is a dry day/night session.

Could be a long wait then!

I'll come back to this thread in mid March:)

Buckethead
12-01-2009, 07:59 PM
For you guys who like AG 200,i bought a couple of those AG 200 with the 16x19 L5.I liked the way it looked,they are still brand ,new imported from Europe.If anybody wants leave your contact. I will be getting hold of the 4D 200 T in about 10 days,if anybody wants $250 for each,1 L3,and 1 L4.They're still unavailable in US.
let me know

pshulam
12-01-2009, 08:29 PM
I thought the 4D 200 in 16x19 pattern, prestrung is selling for about $140 online.

jimbo333
12-02-2009, 03:44 AM
I just bought an original/unused AG200 for $50.

Xenakis
12-02-2009, 03:49 AM
Could be a long wait then!

I'll come back to this thread in mid March:)

Good plan, might just get a bit of dry tennis in before it starts raining again in April.

jimbo333
12-02-2009, 04:09 AM
Good plan, might just get a bit of dry tennis in before it starts raining again in April.

And then maybe another dry week in May before it starts raining for the Summer!

(Just like every other year:()

edman9898
12-02-2009, 12:35 PM
I'm in. Got one coming on the way to try out!

LeeD
12-02-2009, 02:40 PM
First day with Aero200, 18x20, strung at 55 with 15 gauge nylon.
Obviously, similar to my two Mfil 200's, but the head is definetely stiffer. Not bad, not necessarily good. It's a 5/8th, as are my Mfils, but feels smaller. Need thick overgrip for me.
Not any lighter, both 18x20's here, but possibly slightly head heavier. All OK, Mfils were great and I still use them.

blackfrido
12-28-2009, 10:29 AM
First day with Aero200, 18x20, strung at 55 with 15 gauge nylon.
Obviously, similar to my two Mfil 200's, but the head is definetely stiffer. Not bad, not necessarily good. It's a 5/8th, as are my Mfils, but feels smaller. Need thick overgrip for me.
Not any lighter, both 18x20's here, but possibly slightly head heavier. All OK, Mfils were great and I still use them.

Hi LeeD
I just bought one AG200 unstrung, I usually play full poly bed on my Fischer M-speed #1.
What would recommend for the Aerogel? nylon as you did? Any reason for that or looking for a low budget string? thanks

DennisK
12-30-2009, 04:04 AM
Hi LeeD
I just bought one AG200 unstrung, I usually play full poly bed on my Fischer M-speed #1.
What would recommend for the Aerogel? nylon as you did? Any reason for that or looking for a low budget string? thanks

As with any new racket, you should first string it up with your usual set-up or something familiar. At least then you have a common point of reference.

If the racket doesn't play as you like, then tweak the tension +/- 10%. If it still doesn't play as you want, then change the string to something different.

blackfrido
12-30-2009, 05:13 AM
As with any new racket, you should first string it up with your usual set-up or something familiar. At least then you have a common point of reference.

If the racket doesn't play as you like, then tweak the tension +/- 10%. If it still doesn't play as you want, then change the string to something different.

that's a good idea to start. Especially when you have a set-up that you like, it's not my case (I've been trying different strings for years). The closest I found to my likes is Signum Poly Plasma.
thanks

DennisK
12-30-2009, 07:31 AM
The closest I found to my likes is Signum Poly Plasma.
thanks

Check my sig. Thats what i use in my MW200G's and i find it works well.

Gugafan
12-30-2009, 07:59 AM
Check my sig. Thats what i use in my MW200G's and i find it works well.

Intresting...I tried SPPP 1.18 in a MG PRESTIGE MP and it played very flat and board like at the same tension. It's also a very stiff string.

10ACE
12-30-2009, 08:17 AM
Anyone replaced their 4d 200 16 x 19 grip with a leather grip?

On my 200AG 18/20 I have Tenniswarehouse leather grip
25mm X 1300mm X 1.3mm- And lead in the head--

10ACE
12-30-2009, 08:18 AM
For you guys who like AG 200,i bought a couple of those AG 200 with the 16x19 L5.I liked the way it looked,they are still brand ,new imported from Europe.If anybody wants leave your contact. I will be getting hold of the 4D 200 T in about 10 days,if anybody wants $250 for each,1 L3,and 1 L4.They're still unavailable in US.
let me know

$179 online here in US

DennisK
12-30-2009, 08:20 AM
Intresting...I tried SPPP 1.18 in a MG PRESTIGE MP and it played very flat and board like at the same tension. It's also a very stiff string.

The MW200G's are very flexible and have a soft feel, which complements the full poly well.

LeeD
12-30-2009, 10:19 AM
OK, 15 or so days with my Aero200.
Still seems stiffer than my Mfil, still seems head heavier than Mfil.
All 18x20's, strung at 55 (Aero) and 62 (Mfil), with the same strings.

1hbhBUX
12-30-2009, 10:28 AM
10ACE, any idea how much your leather grip added to the static weight? Did you use the thinner or thicker version?

10ACE
12-31-2009, 09:01 AM
10ACE, any idea how much your leather grip added to the static weight? Did you use the thinner or thicker version?

I use the thinner version, wider width, I also have the thinner version thinner width on one stick.

Static Weight I am not positively sure--However, with the lead in the head at 12 and the leather grip it gave me the polarization I was looking for. The weight in the head gave me the plow through I thought I was lacking from my backhand side, and the leather grip gave me the stability/sturdiness I needed in the handle.

Hope that helps!

1hbhBUX
12-31-2009, 09:13 AM
Thanks. I've been considering it myself and am assuming that it would add 5-8 grams, so maybe another .2 to .3 oz.

Power Player
12-31-2009, 06:08 PM
What are you opinions on the differences between this and the 4DAG200?

z_z
12-31-2009, 06:53 PM
Hi all, the 4D200 Tour is out on tenniswarehouse...check it out, i really like the specs.

http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Dunlop_Aerogel_4D_200_Tour_2Hundred/descpageRCDUNLOP-D4D2T.html

10ACE
01-01-2010, 07:36 PM
What are you opinions on the differences between this and the 4DAG200?

I hit with the 4DAG200, and did not like it. It felt muted to me. The thickness in the throat, with the 4D took away some feel, in my opinion.

Gugafan
01-01-2010, 08:25 PM
Gugafan, So which one you bought is it 4d 200 (18x20)? I've also been on the same path as you liked the Prestige's but the HEAD grips make me go crazy. I've recently switched to the Dunlop 4d 200 (18x20) and I'm loving it. Just for comparison I also demoed the Prince Rebel, didn't like it much it feels a bit inconsistent on the groundies when going for a big cross court or a down the line winner. I'll like to heard your thoughts on the Dunlop as well and also if you tried the Rebel.

Sorry missed your post. It's the AG 200 (18X20). I also tried the Rebel but for some reason couldnt dial in with my one handed backhand....Hopefully tomorrow I will be getting an AG 200 in grip 3, with Alu Power mains and conquest crosses. Having hit with one already, I can say its a very stable racket with nice feel and plow through. I am currently hitting with a HPS 6.1 95 (18X20), great racket but mega stiff. Cant wait to see how I perform with the Aerogel.

Rating of previous mp rackets owned in the last 6 months:

1)FXP Prestige MP-Great all round frame, serves big, manouverable on groundstrokes and felt as though the flexpoint techology assisted my slice serves. Has that flexy feeling.... Unfortunately, sold both of my FXP Prestiges after 2 years, as I never felt comfortable with the grip shape on my SW forehand.

2)HPS 6.1 95 (18X20)- Amazing racket. Seriously one of the best MP frames out there. Great spin potential for a dense string pattern, nice plow through and big serving stick. However the racket is very stiff (68), felt it on my shoulder and I was forced to swing alot harder then usual to generate pace on my serve. If I can get used to the 352 strung weight, and stiffness does not become an issue (lower tension soft poly), it could quite easily surpass the fxp mp as the best racket I have played with.

3)MG Prestige MP- Decent stick but felt flimsy and hollow compared to the other two rackets. Felt I was getting pushed around by big hitters. Very nice to generate spin though, swings very light for a prestige.

wksoh
01-02-2010, 09:40 PM
AG200 18x20 - getting sweeter by the month. It's slowly pushing both my excellent Prince Speedport Tours into the reserve slot...

i suck at tennis
01-05-2010, 11:37 AM
Just picked up a new AG2004d 16x19 and the weather here is so bad I probably won't get to hit for at least a week, it's killing me! Ive been playing with a tecnifibre 320 VO2 for the past 9 months or so, I like it just looking for something a little different. The specs on this one peaked my interest so hopefully it's what I'm expecting.

Power Player
01-05-2010, 11:46 AM
I hit with the 4DAG200, and did not like it. It felt muted to me. The thickness in the throat, with the 4D took away some feel, in my opinion.

Interesting. I can see that though. I barely need a dampener with the 4D.

It seems like they both weigh the same and swing the same besides the new tech, so the weight differences are pretty subtle. It's just a feel thing.

i suck at tennis
01-05-2010, 02:18 PM
Interesting. I can see that though. I barely need a dampener with the 4D. It seems like they both weigh the same and swing the same besides the new tech, so the weight differences are pretty subtle. It's just a feel thing.

PowerPlayer I know you have some experience with the 320VO2. How would you compare the 4dAG200 with that stick? I cant wait to give mine (the 16x19 version) a test drive.

Power Player
01-05-2010, 03:16 PM
Well I don't have the 16x19 AG200. I am switching to an 18x20, and I think the 2 sticks have different weights, but I could be wrong.

But, the TF has a more hollow feel that you would expect from a tweener stick. It is much stiffer also. I never got more spin in my life then with the V02. I learned more and more that I don't need that much spin for my game since I can produce it with about any racquet. I needed a stick that puts the ball out at a lower trajectory and plays very consistent. That is what the 4D 200 does for me.

The 4D that I have is much more demanding then the V02 was. The V02 was out of the box taking my game to the next level. The only problem was that I had a lot of bad habits I could keep getting away with when I used it. The 4d simply does not allow those bad habits to result in a good shot. I am at the point where I like that and play better because of it.

The touch of the 4D is far better. Slices are far better..Volleys are 100x better. Power is a lot less. BUT you crush a heavy ball with a lot of power as long as your form is good. With the V02 I crushed more topspin shots that were not as accurate. I can paint the lines with the 4D for clean winners. The accuracy is there, so even if you are just hitting back a return to keep a point going, the 4d allows the shot to be placed deep and accurately over and over. The V02 was more of a kill stick. This is nice on paper, but I win more matches by setting up the kill shot with accuracy then just bombing people over and over.

LeeD
01-05-2010, 05:08 PM
Just strange my Aero200Tour 18x20 is LONGER and heavier than my two Mfil200 18x20's. All L-5's, considering one more Aero200Tour to balance out the heavier sticks.

yemenmocha
01-05-2010, 05:46 PM
Is the 4D 200 Tour supposed to be a baseliner's racquet with those specs? Or is it sufficiently HL to be enjoyed by a S&V'er?

I would expect it to have nice plow-through on serves and stability on volleys.

i suck at tennis
01-05-2010, 07:21 PM
But, the TF has a more hollow feel that you would expect from a tweener stick. It is much stiffer also. I never got more spin in my life then with the V02. I learned more and more that I don't need that much spin for my game since I can produce it with about any racquet. I needed a stick that puts the ball out at a lower trajectory and plays very consistent. That is what the 4D 200 does for me..

The TF feeling a bit hollow is definitely one of the reasons I picked this stick up. The 16x19 is lighter than the 18x20, so hopefully it doesnt disappoint and provides that feel I'm looking for.

THESEXPISTOL
04-04-2010, 10:35 AM
Will stock AG200 18x20 with Leather Grip and full Cyberflash 23/22 play nice or should i go for poly/syngut hybrid?

LeeD
04-04-2010, 10:54 AM
I have one AG200 (2 Mfil 200's) and I string them all up with cheapo PrinceTourneyNylon. Even the confirmed Lux users, when they try my rackets for a hit, say it's "pretty good". I hate their expensive strings, feeling tinny, moving lots, and wearing out quickly. 55lbs for me, mostly, but for first serves, 62. For groundies, maybe 49. I'm mostly S/V lefty.

Gugafan
04-04-2010, 01:45 PM
Will stock AG200 18x20 with Leather Grip and full Cyberflash 23/22 play nice or should i go for poly/syngut hybrid?

I play Alu Power/Syngut at around 52/56 in my AG200. Stringbed feels nice and soft, and I feel I get lots of control. Only downside is the power. Perhaps taking the tension down abit lower may help.

Xenakis
04-04-2010, 01:50 PM
^^^Try a poly at lower tension Gugafan. 22kgs is a good one, or even super low as I've been doing recently, 14kgs/30lbs.

That frame would cope with it well I reckon and you'd definitely get more power/spin.

I'm trying RIP Control at 14kgs tomorrow in my Vantage. Just strung it up.

BTW I haven't forgotten I still owe you a quid/2 overgrips.

Gugafan
04-04-2010, 02:27 PM
^^^Try a poly at lower tension Gugafan. 22kgs is a good one, or even super low as I've been doing recently, 14kgs/30lbs.

That frame would cope with it well I reckon and you'd definitely get more power/spin.

I'm trying RIP Control at 14kgs tomorrow in my Vantage. Just strung it up.

BTW I haven't forgotten I still owe you a quid/2 overgrips.

X, my next setup will be full poly at around 22kg but its finding the right poly to liven up the very low powered AG200!. I really need something that will hold tension, but at the same time feel quite powerful. Alu Power is great, but as a full setup It goes dead relatively quickly.

I really like the pros pro overgrips. Feel less tacky and thinner than wilson pro and supergrap.

Power Player
04-04-2010, 05:23 PM
I have been hitting with the M-fil at 56#s full poly. It has massive power. I prefer my 4ds, but they all need to be strung. When I use full poly, I tend to hit loopier shots then I prefer. Anyway, I personally dont think you need to string much lower then 52 i you go full poly on the 200s. I would have no control, but everyone has different strokes.

Gugafan
04-04-2010, 06:36 PM
I have been hitting with the M-fil at 56#s full poly. It has massive power. I prefer my 4ds, but they all need to be strung. When I use full poly, I tend to hit loopier shots then I prefer. Anyway, I personally dont think you need to string much lower then 52 i you go full poly on the 200s. I would have no control, but everyone has different strokes.

PP, I also find I get more spin with a full poly setup. In terms of power, would full poly be less powerful than poly/syn gut.

Power Player
04-04-2010, 09:01 PM
PP, I also find I get more spin with a full poly setup. In terms of power, would full poly be less powerful than poly/syn gut.

I think so. For example, I get a lot of power with a hybrid at 60#s. Whereas with full poly, I drop that tension to 54-56#s. What happens then is I need to use more spin to keep the ball in the court, hence the loopier shots. I prefer to hit flatter winners, and the tighter hybrid gives me more control for that.

THESEXPISTOL
04-05-2010, 04:35 AM
In which hole should i tie off my crosses?
I need an answer asap.
thank you

THESEXPISTOL
04-05-2010, 03:59 PM
Just got my two AG200s.
Replaced the Hydramax Tour grip by a TW Leather grip and a tournagrip and strung it with Cyberflash/OGSheep 23kg/23.5kg.

At the start i was having problems with the high tension after 30minutes it becamed sweet and i played for three hours always matchplay.
If i don't get arm problems tomorrow or later i think i have a great racquet for my game.

But next time i will lower the tension 1 or 2 kilos.

MomentumGT
04-06-2010, 03:41 PM
^^^Hey THESEXPISTOL,

I just got a set of Polystar Energy and wanted your opinion on how it plays and how you like it. I normally use CyberFlash at 53lbs. Is it similar? I have the ag200 18x20.

-Jon

THESEXPISTOL
04-06-2010, 06:00 PM
^^^Hey THESEXPISTOL,

I just got a set of Polystar Energy and wanted your opinion on how it plays and how you like it. I normally use CyberFlash at 53lbs. Is it similar? I have the ag200 18x20.

-Jon

Hey, i just got my ag200s yesterday and didn't had the time to test them with polystar energy yet. But from the 4 months i've been playing with Polystar Energy all i can say is that they are a good matchup. I don't know what's your playing style but with my gamestyle (agressive baseline, S&V) they are the best poly out there. They have touch, they are the most comfortable poly i've ever tried and they got lots of power what for me in ag200 is a good thing because the racquet is a little low powered for my tastes. Spin is good but not as much as other top polys, but unless you have a full western grip it won't be an issue.

I would recommend you to go 1kg or even 2kg tighter with polystar than with cyberflash. That was my rule for the head extreme pros.

If you need something else just post or send me a PM.

FastFreddy
04-06-2010, 07:09 PM
bought a tour 200 aerogel from TW. Great stick love it.

MomentumGT
04-07-2010, 04:42 PM
I don't know what's your playing style but with my gamestyle (agressive baseline, S&V) they are the best poly out there. They have touch, they are the most comfortable poly i've ever tried and they got lots of power what for me in ag200 is a good thing because the racquet is a little low powered for my tastes. Spin is good but not as much as other top polys, but unless you have a full western grip it won't be an issue.

I would recommend you to go 1kg or even 2kg tighter with polystar than with cyberflash. That was my rule for the head extreme pros.

If you need something else just post or send me a PM.

Okay thanks! I had a feeling the Polystar Energy would be soft, but I didn't think it be that soft vs CyberFlash. I would consider myself an aggressive baseliner like yourself, but would only S&V in doubles lol.

-Jon

bluetrain4
04-13-2010, 10:29 AM
I have used a lot of Dunlop frames in the past. From a Max300i (great frame) in high school, the Revelation 200g, the Hotmelt 200g.

I have always liked 200 series frames. So, I ordered an Aerogel 200 just to have it. I was using Prince Diablos at the time, so although I hit with the 200 a few times, it basically sat in my bag for a long time.

Fast forward one year, and I'm demoing all sorts of frames looking for a new stick for summer season. Had to play recently and had sent all my demos back (having not made a decision) and really didn't have anything lying around the house to use other than a bunch of old frames. So, I whipped out the Aerogel 200 and for the first time played seriously with it.

Really a great, great frame. Solid, stable, great groundstrokes, serve, slices, insane control. Definitely softer than the Revelation or the current Aerogel 4d (which I also like but not as much), and defintely stiffer and much more stable than the Hotmelt. Perfect weight and balance. And, it would only take a small amount of lead to make it even more of a beast (though it's great as is).

I really have nothing bad to say. I guess since I'm so familiar with 200 series frames, it immediately felt comfortable. And, for some reason, the 18x20 pattern on the 200 series always produce nice spin for me. Maybe I subconsciously change my swing slightly. Regardless, the spin is there if you want it.

And, I say all of this when the 200 was strung simply with Prince Syn Gut Duraflex 16g (which, IMO is actually a great string, especially when fresh). I think the frame would suit a lot of strings (hybrids, full poly, a thinner guage), providing even more spin, power, control -- whatever the user is seeking.

All in all, a great frame that I slept on.

The 4D 200 (regular version) was also a very nice frame, but felt a bit (just a bit) sluggish and didn't serve as well IMO. But, I only used it for one day, so who knows.

The 4D 200 Tour (16x18) is going to make some very strong, big hitters very happy. A nice beefy frame in stock form that has a healthy SW and plenty of plow through and stability. But, it was too much for me, especially over multiple sets.

Power Player
04-13-2010, 10:35 AM
Blue Train, you nailed it. The spin is most definitley there.

As for the 4d, I have been pulling out my m-fil while restringing my 4ds. When you go back to the 4d, it does feel a little sluggish, but that does go away. It is replaced with an incredibly solid and addictive feel. To me, it is the best 200 made yet. It just takes a little hitting to get used to it, and then you will love it.

I'd love to sell my m-fil and buy one more 4d so I have 4 of the same. But the people that email me want to buy it for $35 shipped, and I may as well keep it for that price.

bluetrain4
04-13-2010, 10:48 AM
Blue Train, you nailed it. The spin is most definitley there.

As for the 4d, I have been pulling out my m-fil while restringing my 4ds. When you go back to the 4d, it does feel a little sluggish, but that does go away. It is replaced with an incredibly solid and addictive feel. To me, it is the best 200 made yet. It just takes a little hitting to get used to it, and then you will love it.

I'd love to sell my m-fil and buy one more 4d so I have 4 of the same. But the people that email me want to buy it for $35 shipped, and I may as well keep it for that price.

Yeah, I can see the 4d 200 having huge potential. I just didn't have enough time with it to make any definitive assessment. And, it was strung too tightly for my liking, and the string was pretty dead, so I wasn't getting the pop I wanted. It was hard to guage how it would do with my preferred strings.

I found a very cheap (new) AG 200 to purchase, so now I have 2. But, I will probably give the 4d another look as summer gets closer.

bluetrain4
04-13-2010, 11:29 AM
I ordered my new AG 200 with Technifibre Black Code 17g strung at 59 lbs. I did this simply to contrast it too the full syn gut set up that is in the AG 200 that I usually used, and simply to try Black Code.

I'm really wondering if I'll like it. I like to hit with plenty of spin but at a low trajectory (unless I'm consciously trying to loop the ball more). And, the syn gut set-up was plenty powerful. I'm guessing in the long run that I'll settle on some sort of hybrid. A medium-soft poly with a basic syn gut like Prince Duraflex or Gamma syn gut. The real question for me will be the guage - 16g or 17g, or if a hybrid, one of each.