View Full Version : NoBad -- Tour 10 MP! Loved it.
A guy at my club let me use his Tour 10 today and I loved it. It felt a little lighter than the specs with a very comfortable stringbed. The upper-hoop delivered no where near the power-drop off I expected given the flex. [It was strung 58lbs with gut and this may have contributed to the lively comfortable feel]. The weight seemed right for the clay, the off center stability was impressive, the control-power ratio was wonderful --a few swingweight-pts lighter would have allowed for easier out-of-position forehand whips, but for the most part, preparation against heavier balls was suprisingly easy. I was having some trouble cranking serves and I'm not sure if it was because I needed something slightly lighter to generate more headspeed, stiffer for more power or if I was missing the sweetspot. Overall, though, great frame. Does the pro #1 play similar to the Tour 10? Would you say that it is as comfortable in terms of the low amount of shock/twist & torque found in the T10?
01-04-2005, 11:04 AM
ej the sweetspot on the pro1 isnt as large and it is more uncomfortable when you miss it than the t10mp. the pro1 feels a bit softer and flexier in the sweetspot than the t10mp. i would say the pro1 is a bit more demanding than the t10mp. ya man.,,the t10mp is one sweet frame. it's a frame you can never blame if you played poorly, and it is hard to play poorly with it because it is so easy to find the sweetspot. i rely on my serve very heavily and had trouble serving with mine at first too..you really need to be mechanically sound and stay smooth w. the t10mp on serves and then you will find this frame can hit w. great power and spin and placement..you cant get sloppy or fast with this frame on serves. i string mine at 60 w. a gut hybrid and it's got everything in terms of control, spin, feel, and power. and yes, the t10mp is very good in the upper hoop as far as getting a decent hit when you hit up high unlike many other frames. sometimes it is amazing the controllable power you can get out of a thin beamed flexier frame.
My biggest disappointment with this racquet was with serves...I loved it for everything else, but could never really bring the heat (or get a deep penetrating slice for that matter). Opponents tended to jump all over me with their returns. Unfortunately, the serve is a big part of my game and I just wasn't willing to give it up.
Any word on the Gen II? I hope it serves better, but retains all the great characteristics of the Tour 10 MP.
01-04-2005, 12:19 PM
i have no problem at all serving with this stick. i absolutely love it!
01-04-2005, 12:32 PM
I, too, actually serve better with the T10MP than hit other shots with it. If I could hit groundies and volleys better with it, I might have switched.
01-04-2005, 03:43 PM
I felt that the T10MP did it's job quite well in all aspects of the game once I leaded mine up at the 3/9/handle. It didn't do anything outstanding for me but it was a solid frame. The one thing I rave about this is the comfort the frame gave me.
01-04-2005, 07:22 PM
I just wanted it to be a little more head light. I found I couldn't hit sharp cross court angles with it like with a few others I tried. But it is a great racket. I'm sensing the VE-Tour 10 mid will be better for me. A 93 square head is big enough for me and that racket is a tad lighter with an even thinner beam, plus a lower swingweight, which should help me generate more "whip" than I had with the Tour 10 MP.
01-04-2005, 07:45 PM
if you want it to be a little more head light, why not add weight to the handle? the t10ve mid is a fine stick too as i use this stick now. i felt that the t10mp stock was fairly light and needed to add weight to it but with the t10ve i can leave it stock and it feels fine.
01-04-2005, 08:18 PM
coria you asked me to comment in another thread on this too. if you add weight to the handle of any frame it will make the frame more headlight for sure, but will also increase the swingweight, and you wont be able to whip these around like you want to anyway..they will just feel more headlight. i was in the same situation as you w. the t10mp's..loved the frame but couldnt move them fast enough on my serve and i lost topspin on my backhand because i was having trouble catching the ball early enough and getting enough headspeed (i'm an old fart)...so i will share a secret with you......add a leather grip to the t10..that will make it a tad more headlight.....get a new grommet/bumper kit and trim away a bunch of material and install. you will end up w. a frame that is prob just a hair lighter static weight wise but significantly more headlight and they will move much much faster w. no noticeable penalties elsewhere. i've done this to all 4 of mine and they play beautifully...you will need to figure out if you scrape the court w. your frame, and trim accordingly...the VE Mid is definitely easier to whip around and is a very nice frame but lower powered and a much smaller sweetspot..you're not going to get much at all if you mis-hit on this frame especially on return of serve. with the erratic bounces you get on clay where i play, it was a bit too demanding for my 5.5 game..if i was playing hard court T, I would have switched to the Mid..it's alot of fun to play with and you can take big cuts at the ball and it wont fly on you...so here are some options for you. thught you went with the rdxMP?
01-05-2005, 07:26 AM
I ended up feeling the RDX MP felt a bit too clumsy for me--it's hard to explain. I just couldn't rip my forehand with it like I like. I like a thinner beam and also, for some reason, the RD MP felt a bit too "big" for me.
Thanks for the suggestions. I'm receiving four rackets either today or tomorrow--1) the Slazenger X1 2) Wilson Pro Staff Original 95 3) Yonex RDX mid 4) Volkl VE 10 mid--looking forward to trying all of these.
Right now, the racket I probably enjoy using the most is the Diablo MP with 10 grams of lead added to it.
01-05-2005, 07:34 AM
gotcha..you are now officially in the TripleB playtester but cant decide program....
01-05-2005, 09:54 AM
I don't quite have that much time on my hands :)
Something tells me I'm really going to like the V-E mid. But, if all else fails, I like the Diablo MP with six grams of lead in the head and four in the handle. I'm also looking forward to demoing the X1--it sounds like a great stick, but the 20 mm beam is a tad thicker than I naturally like. We'll see.
The Prestige rackets felt a bit heavy, although very solid.
who knows, maybe what I didn't like as much with the RDX MP, I'll love with the mid. Looking forward to that too.
The Wilson Pro-Staff Original Pro-Staff 95 was kind of a throw in. I'm not sure it has enough pop but it seems like a great stick.
01-05-2005, 12:16 PM
Let us know how you like those four demos once you've had a chance to play with them. Those are all racquets I have tried. I liked all of them a lot, except the Volkl T10VE Mid, which I hated.
Well then, I'll officially join Coria and Triple B in the "Indecisive Demo Program",
I've been demoing rackets now for the past 4 months, although I haven't touched any of the Volks and Fishers yet. Tonight I will have a go with the RDX 500 Mid....if all else fails, I will go for a LM prestige MP, but I really would like a more flexy frame, hence the Yonex.
We'll see :).........
01-06-2005, 07:15 AM
i understand tripleB has been doing this for 5 years now. that's what i've been told anyway.
01-06-2005, 07:50 AM
For me, now's the time to do it. I play three or four Men's 35's events a year, but more for me, my USTA season starts in late April. I play #1 for my 4.5 team and I face some good 5.0 players.
Last year, I used the Tour 10 MP the whole season and had pretty good results. It's just I know in my heart that there's a stick that can help me a little over that one--mostly on serves and maneuverability. I'm really liking the RDX mid.
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