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The FishEXpress
04-14-2008, 01:30 PM
Who would be the the fastest ever ATP player if he ran the 100m / 200m in a straight line? I am putting this question up as to not confuse my previous question.

fastswingVD
04-14-2008, 01:31 PM
fernando gonzalez?

edmondsm
04-14-2008, 01:35 PM
Nadal is pretty fast when he does that weird sprinting to the baseline thing before the match starts.

spikyblackhair
04-14-2008, 01:40 PM
We're never going to know for sure, since tennis players rarely reach top sprinting speed during matches, and it's going to be too close to call between the fastest ones based on just what we've seen.

It's a shame that tennis players don't really go through the same tests that football players do during training camps and for the benefit of scouts. Since it's more of an individual sport and there's less of an emphasis on eking out every last bit of speed in players, I don't know if those things will ever be tested and recorded, but it would be really interesting to see the results. Tennis is just more of a skill sport than a conditioning competition (relative to a lot of other sports).

edmondsm
04-14-2008, 01:45 PM
We're never going to know for sure, since tennis players rarely reach top sprinting speed during matches, and it's going to be too close to call between the fastest ones based on just what we've seen.

It's a shame that tennis players don't really go through the same tests that football players do during training camps and for the benefit of scouts. Since it's more of an individual sport and there's less of an emphasis on eking out every last bit of speed in players, I don't know if those things will ever be tested and recorded, but it would be really interesting to see the results. Tennis is just more of a skill sport than a conditioning competition (relative to a lot of other sports).

It would be great to see the ATP start doing a NFL style skills test. Maybe at the year end masters. At the very least it would give us something else to talk about around here.

flyer
04-14-2008, 01:52 PM
How are we supposed to know. No body on these boards has a remote clue no matter what they tell you. We have no way of know. It still wouldn't say anything about how fast they play because tennis is not a strait line game.

Moose Malloy
04-14-2008, 01:56 PM
It would be great to see the ATP start doing a NFL style skills test.

That could hurt the ATP more than help it. Imagine some of those 'super fast' players test really poorly on the 40 yard dash(which wouldn't surprise me at all)

And testing the players verticals would probably be a disaster.

Who would be the the fastest ever ATP player if he ran the 100m / 200m in a straight line

I wouldn't be surprised if it was a player that no one would have guessed, like Goran. I've seen him on the dead run move as fast as anyone I've seen on a tennis court. Problem is, he had the best serve of all time, & a ten cent head, so he had very little interest in developing a game that required him to move all that much.

Whoever it would be, it probably be a taller guy(6'1"), they can make up longer distances more quickly than a Ferrer.

Pushmaster
04-14-2008, 01:57 PM
No brainer, Borg.

rod_b
04-14-2008, 02:11 PM
I thought Chang was pretty fast in a straight line to the net.

127mph
04-14-2008, 02:40 PM
ljubicic for sure

TokyopunK
04-14-2008, 02:42 PM
Dee Yung!!

guernica1
04-14-2008, 03:08 PM
Clement in his prime or Chang would be my votes.

edmondsm
04-14-2008, 03:47 PM
Darren Cahill claims that Bjorn Phau is the fastest guy on tour.

chiru
04-14-2008, 03:56 PM
in a straight line, i say borg, only cuz he beat an olympic hurdler in a 100 m dash i think it was. back in both of their primes. thats pretty godly.

Phil
04-14-2008, 05:40 PM
Easy. Todd Martin.

Cindysphinx
04-15-2008, 05:25 AM
Monfills, for sure.

Ocean Drive
04-15-2008, 05:36 AM
John Isner.

Teyko
04-15-2008, 07:13 AM
Definitely Gael Monfils

Batoussai
04-15-2008, 08:00 AM
John Isner.

Longs legs doesn't mean good runner...

Ronaldo
04-15-2008, 08:11 AM
Justin Gimelstob, quickest 3 ft. straight drop ever!

l_gonzalez
04-15-2008, 08:51 AM
Irakli Labadze... the best athlete the ATP has ever seen!

kissmyace
04-15-2008, 01:14 PM
Pat Cash was the fastest person EVER over 10 metres. I think that would also be true over 100 if it were soley between ATP tour player past and present.

chrisplchs
04-15-2008, 01:57 PM
Blake, Donald Young, Monfils, Jenkins

I would bet on those guys

Look for the guys with the most developed lower body

I remember in college, one of our men's tennis player was 6'4" and he had something like a 40 in vertical and a 4.6 40

r2473
04-15-2008, 02:36 PM
I bet McEnroe could snort a straight line pretty fast in his prime.

Magix
04-15-2008, 04:46 PM
Monfills, for sure.
Monfils doesn't run, he slides!

GasquetGOAT
04-15-2008, 05:07 PM
david nalbandian:twisted:

jgreen06
04-15-2008, 06:23 PM
if not nadal, hes gotta be in top 5

pow
04-15-2008, 06:34 PM
I'm thinking Nadal, Monfils, and Blake.

okdude1992
04-15-2008, 06:47 PM
lol r2473. fine form!

daddy
04-15-2008, 06:58 PM
I bet McEnroe could snort a straight line pretty fast in his prime.

Couple of inches easy, right ? Ha ha, this made me laugh a lot.

tennisdude083
04-15-2008, 07:41 PM
I'm thinking Nadal, Monfils, and Blake.

i agree with those 3.

Tempest344
04-15-2008, 10:05 PM
Nadal?

he definately has the build to be a sprinter

stormholloway
04-15-2008, 10:07 PM
Blake, Donald Young, Monfils, Jenkins

I would bet on those guys

Look for the guys with the most developed lower body

I remember in college, one of our men's tennis player was 6'4" and he had something like a 40 in vertical and a 4.6 40

Are you just blindly picking the black guys?

Blake and Borg I think.

stormholloway
04-15-2008, 10:08 PM
I bet McEnroe could snort a straight line pretty fast in his prime.

Best answer so far, though I think Vitas was a bit faster.

bcast66
04-16-2008, 04:25 AM
Nadal?

he definately has the build to be a sprinter

iv seen nadal. he looks much different in real life then on tv. he is not as strong as people say he is. but he is very fast at scrambling.

Zhou
04-16-2008, 04:41 AM
Coria was fast for his frame. Especially at Roland Garros a while back.

watermantra
04-16-2008, 04:41 AM
Are you just blindly picking the black guys?.

And if so, why is Noah not in the "running"...of course if he partied the night before...

Buuurnz
04-17-2008, 02:46 AM
rainer schuettler

Mansewerz
04-17-2008, 04:23 PM
That could hurt the ATP more than help it. Imagine some of those 'super fast' players test really poorly on the 40 yard dash(which wouldn't surprise me at all)

And testing the players verticals would probably be a disaster.



I wouldn't be surprised if it was a player that no one would have guessed, like Goran. I've seen him on the dead run move as fast as anyone I've seen on a tennis court. Problem is, he had the best serve of all time, & a ten cent head, so he had very little interest in developing a game that required him to move all that much.

Whoever it would be, it probably be a taller guy(6'1"), they can make up longer distances more quickly than a Ferrer.

Nah, I think Sampras' serve was the best of all time.

Q&M son
04-17-2008, 04:47 PM
Borg!!!!!!!!!!

JohnS
04-18-2008, 07:51 PM
Popp, Alexander Popp

superman1
04-18-2008, 11:48 PM
Agassi, who played almost everyone except Borg, has listed names such as Chang, Blake, Hewitt, Bjorn Phau, and Nadal. He never played Monfils, who Blake called the fastest.

lolza
04-19-2008, 12:37 AM
no one mentioned davydenko ? im suprised

TennisMD
04-19-2008, 08:49 AM
I once heard Brad Gilbert say Nadal was a legitimate 4.2 40 yrd guy. This is elite track speed time.

Ronaldo
04-19-2008, 09:40 AM
I once heard Brad Gilbert say Nadal was a legitimate 4.2 40 yrd guy. This is elite track speed time.

Right up there with Jose Conseco!

madmanfool
04-19-2008, 11:10 AM
Tsonga on 100m

Benhur
04-19-2008, 11:37 AM
That could hurt the ATP more than help it. Imagine some of those 'super fast' players test really poorly on the 40 yard dash(which wouldn't surprise me at all)
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Whoever it would be, it probably be a taller guy(6'1"), they can make up longer distances more quickly than a Ferrer.

I agree it is not possible to extrapolate sprinting ability on a straight line from quickness around a tennis court. A tennis player seldom needs to run more than 9-10 yards straight. At 10 yards, a straigh-line 40 yard sprinter is still in full acceleration, whereas a tennis player is in full deceleration, as it needs to stop and (often) turn around.

As much as the straigh-line speed, it is the rate initial acceleration and subsequent deceleration -- and the player's ability to stop and turn direction, that determines the quickness of a player - hence the disadvangage of tall (and therefore heavier) players. Sprinters do not get tested for their ability to stop in as short a distance as possible.
The momentum that needs to be reversed in stopping and changing direction is proportional to both the speed AND the mass of the player. It is in this sense that lighter players with lower center of gravity, like Ferrer, can be said to be quicker. They would probably not do too well in a 100 meter sprint.

grizzly4life
04-19-2008, 07:10 PM
Are you just blindly picking the black guys?
.

have you seen the 100 metre finals at the olympics? or the semi-finals? or the quarter-finals? or the olympic qualifying in any country that has a reasonable black population.

NLBwell
04-19-2008, 07:56 PM
I thought Chang was pretty fast in a straight line to the net.

Did you mean "from the net?"

racquetman
04-19-2008, 08:02 PM
Johan Kriek was the fastest guy that I ever saw play professional tennis...