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tennisadd1ct
04-21-2008, 06:24 PM
Do you think Federer is fully recovered and well now?


I mean definitely he's gotten some confidence after winning Estoril, but pretend he plays Djoker right now. Would he win or put up a better fight?

I'm just wondering.

gj011
04-21-2008, 06:25 PM
Too early to tell.

drakulie
04-21-2008, 06:28 PM
I wasn't aware he ever left.

2ndserve642
04-21-2008, 06:30 PM
hes fine but hes hit a tiny slump even the greats have them remember tigers slump

Lee James
04-21-2008, 07:25 PM
I'm reserving judgment until I see him in a grand slam tournament again. I'm not willing to press the panic button unless he gets ousted at Wimbledon before the semis, and likewise for the US Open.

MajinX
04-21-2008, 07:49 PM
sure federer hasnt played his "best" tennis for a couple months but you make it sound like this is uncommon, many many players, and other former number 1s had their ups and downs okay, saying federer left takes all the credit away from the players that worked so hard to beat him.

flyer
04-21-2008, 08:05 PM
we will see but i think not so much, he played all players outside the top 50 and still had trouble, the only player inside the top 50 was davy who retired and is notoriously inconsistent(meaning he really didnt beat any top 50 players)

jmsx521
04-21-2008, 08:10 PM
I never understood was the "Feder has Mono" real news, or a joke? Thanks.

Mad iX
04-21-2008, 08:12 PM
One thing's for sure, he's making a big push for the French.

JohnS
04-21-2008, 08:27 PM
One thing's for sure, he's making a big push for the French.


One things for sure, if he doesnt get the FO within the next
2 years, I think his chances will come slim afterwards. His
movement already looks to be slowing down.

IanRichardson
04-21-2008, 08:31 PM
One things for sure, if he doesnt get the FO within the next
2 years, I think his chances will come slim afterwards. His
movement already looks to be slowing down.

i think you are right that the chances are slim, but I wouldnt rule him out. Look at agassi, didnt he have about a 6 year period between finals at the FO?

It is too early to tell what will happen, best thing for us to do is sit back with a beer and watch the tennis. :)

tennis_hand
04-21-2008, 10:47 PM
Do you think Federer is fully recovered and well now?


I mean definitely he's gotten some confidence after winning Estoril, but pretend he plays Djoker right now. Would he win or put up a better fight?

I'm just wondering.

pure BS. Djoker is no 3. don't forget that. and u made it sound like everyone has to compare to Djoker to meansure themselves. :rolleyes::roll:

Leublu tennis
04-22-2008, 01:07 AM
I don't think he is. Davydenko was playing pretty well and, barring injury, should have beaten Federer. In MC Federer has a pretty easy draw until the quarters when he should meet Soderling or Nalbandian and then we will see. Personally, I think either one of them will take Federer out unless he plays better than he did against Davydenko.

Lotto
04-22-2008, 09:02 AM
He's still not back 100% movement wise.

He's about 92% on his movement and about 90% on his mental game. When these two aspects of his game get back to 100% we'll see Roger Federer again.

thalivest
04-22-2008, 09:25 AM
I dont really know about his illness anymore. His tennis though is far from 100% back. Winning some puny event in ugly fashion does not show his tennis is back. He struggled 3 sets vs some opponents that he would dismantle with ease everytime if he were in tune. Then in the final vs Davydenko he played a horrible first set even though he won it in a tiebreak, then Davydenko quit. Nothing that impressive at all. He has a long ways to go with his tennis.

thalivest
04-22-2008, 09:26 AM
I don't think he is. Davydenko was playing pretty well and, barring injury, should have beaten Federer. In MC Federer has a pretty easy draw until the quarters when he should meet Soderling or Nalbandian and then we will see. Personally, I think either one of them will take Federer out unless he plays better than he did against Davydenko.

Soderling on clay is a total joke. If Federer somehow played him he would win even if his current bad form continues.

joeri888
04-22-2008, 11:15 AM
Thalivest, I think that Federer in form would have trouble with Davydenko as well. Davydenko is in very good form (beating Nadal and Roddick) and had a good run of 11 matches undefeated. On clay Davydenko can make it even tougher for Federer, and I think you are a little overestimating the normal federer to this one. I mean, the normal federer doesn't play each match like the one against Roddick at AO 2007 or something. When Fed wins matches in ugly fashion we usually say 'that's what makes him the best'. Now all of a sudden every match he plays is the worst he's played in years and I think that's really overreacting. Federer for me is still amongst the top 3 players in the world, even on this form, and will defenitely be someone to keep an eye on in the clay season. But whether he's back, I don't know, time will tell.

fastdunn
04-22-2008, 11:22 AM
we don't know yet. we just watched roger's practice session at estroil.

but i think today's tennis is tougher environment to stay longer.

let's say roger indeed lost a bit of edge in his baseline game and footwork.
if that really happened, there is no other alternatives to compensate those simply because today's tennis is mainly baseline, compared to past when you could very well compensate with net games.....

thalivest
04-22-2008, 06:20 PM
Thalivest, I think that Federer in form would have trouble with Davydenko as well. Davydenko is in very good form (beating Nadal and Roddick) and had a good run of 11 matches undefeated. On clay Davydenko can make it even tougher for Federer, and I think you are a little overestimating the normal federer to this one. I mean, the normal federer doesn't play each match like the one against Roddick at AO 2007 or something. When Fed wins matches in ugly fashion we usually say 'that's what makes him the best'. Now all of a sudden every match he plays is the worst he's played in years and I think that's really overreacting. Federer for me is still amongst the top 3 players in the world, even on this form, and will defenitely be someone to keep an eye on in the clay season. But whether he's back, I don't know, time will tell.

I am afraid I have to disagree with you on all of that. Federer didnt even play well vs Davydenko at the French and U.S Opens last year and still won both in straight sets although Davydenko should have done better in that French Open match. The only surface Davydenko would have a hope vs normal Federer might be clay, but even then still likely lose. On hard courts he would have no chance at all vs normal Federer. Whether or when Federer starts playing like something that resembles his old self remains to be seen though.

Beating Roddick and Nadal on hard courts is nothing unbelievable for Davydenko either. It was only his 2nd meeting vs Roddick since he became a real player, and only his 2nd meeting ever vs Nadal on hard court. His only previous meeting with Roddick since he became a top 5 players two and a half years ago, and only previous meeting with Nadal on non-clay surface, were both tough 3 sets losses. Also his 3 set loss to Nadal he was visibly tired from overplaying to end the 2006 season, and lost a set and break lead both vs Nadal and Blake in consecutive round robin matches that event. His 3 set loss to Roddick ws after being in a horrible run of form himself while the gambling allegations were going on late last year. So his beating both on hard courts does not show he is suddenly at a new level, as it something that was very easy to imagine happening anyway anytime these last 2 and a half years. Nadal's worst surface by far is hard courts, he is nowhere near as strong as an in-form Federer or Djokovic on them, so he is definitely beatable to someone like Davydenko on them. Roddick has been ranked below Davydenko awhile now and Davydenko has been atleast equally as good a player as Roddick for awhile now.

Lastly Federer in his current form is not a top 3 player. In his "current" form Nadal and Djokovic are far better players, Davydenko is overall probably better, and someone like Roddick is even about equal. People are saying the tennis he is playing now is the worst he has played in many years, and is light years below his normal level since it is. One has to be blind to WATCH his tennis at the moment and not see it, whether you are a fan, a bigtime hater, a neutral, whomever. Triple or quadruple errors sometimes vs even nobodies in early rounds, easy shanks, sluggish movement, off timing, lack of focus.

sureshs
04-23-2008, 10:44 AM
He says he has won all of his matches on clay so far, but he was pushed and almost eliminated yesterday. So far, he has not been playing top players, and is still having trouble. Huge number of unforced errors.

thalivest
04-23-2008, 11:12 AM
I feel even better about my statements after his performance today.

fastdunn
04-23-2008, 11:21 AM
He says he has won all of his matches on clay so far, but he was pushed and almost eliminated yesterday. So far, he has not been playing top players, and is still having trouble. Huge number of unforced errors.

yeah, the key is how he plays top 10-20 players at later round, in which Roger has been deadly efficient for last 4 years or so.

KFactor27
04-23-2008, 11:45 AM
Federer is definitely not back yet. His form looks way off still, over 50 errors last match. It amazes me how he can still find a way to win when everything is not going his way. I can't wait untill he finds his top form again.

NikeWilson
04-23-2008, 11:57 AM
i heard that tournament he won last week, was a very weak field of scrubs. until he met Davydenko in the final.

Tennis and Tennis
04-23-2008, 03:35 PM
I never understood was the "Feder has Mono" real news, or a joke? Thanks.


real news.

ruski07
04-23-2008, 05:03 PM
It is too early to tell what will happen, best thing for us to do is sit back with a beer and watch the tennis. :)[/QUOTE]

Best advise given on this message board lol