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soyizgood
04-22-2008, 11:27 AM
These guys have never beaten Federer. If any of them were to get that 1 ton bagel out of the way, who would likely do it?

Davydenko
Ferrer
Blake
Youzhny
Robredo
Malisse
Moya
Nieminen
Soderling

joeri888
04-22-2008, 11:34 AM
Shame Roddick is out of it now. I would have to go for Davydenko, just because he's the best player.

Shabazza
04-22-2008, 11:45 AM
Shame Roddick is out of it now. I would have to go for Davydenko, just because he's the best player.

Roddick was out since 2003.

Mikael
04-22-2008, 12:00 PM
Soderling on hard courts has a chance. He's one of the few guys on the list who doesn't have too much respect for the Fed. I get the same vibes from Youzhny in a way.

supermario343
04-22-2008, 12:03 PM
haha i like the none answer..bc no one will ;) FED rules!

counter_puncher
04-22-2008, 12:47 PM
Ferrer or Davy

samprasbackhand
04-22-2008, 12:48 PM
James Blake....if he can just get the mental thing together

JRstriker12
04-22-2008, 12:52 PM
Davydenko - he has the game to do it if he plays like he did agaisnt Rafa in Miami.

^^^As much as I like Blake, Fed just eats up his game. Blake's flat shots just feed into the Fed wheelhouse - i.e. see Blake get pw3nd in the year end Masters by Fed - that match was a striaght-up Fed winner clinic.

quest01
04-22-2008, 12:55 PM
I think Davydenko has the best chance from the list to beat Federer. He was very close in beating Federer in the first set in Estoril, it probably could have gone either way and he was up a break in the second before he had to retire due to an injury.

madmanfool
04-22-2008, 12:57 PM
Malisse already beat Federer in Davis cup;

soyizgood
04-22-2008, 01:01 PM
Malisse already beat Federer in Davis cup;

I'm guessing this site as well as the majority of fans don't count Davis Cup. ;)

http://www.tenniscorner.net/index.php?corner=m&action=headtohead&playerid=FER001

watermantra
04-22-2008, 01:07 PM
Davydenko was definitely an inspired tennis player against Nadal in Miami. Beautiful to watch, and just simply dominating. If he can keep it together to play that way against Fed, he does have a chance.

soyizgood
04-22-2008, 01:43 PM
Two guys can claim ownage over Fed: Rafter (3-0) and Kafelnikov (4-1). A serve and volleyer that quit while he was at his peak and a guy with one of the greatest 2HBH ever. Yet Fed pwns Aussie Hewitt 13-5 (11 straight), Russian Davydenko 12-0, and Russian Youzhny 10-0. Looks like Fed took his frustrations out on those helpless souls.

crawl4
04-22-2008, 05:17 PM
i would say davey but he would be mentally scarred from his losing record with federer..haha why put moya in there, no chance

ndtennis
04-22-2008, 05:24 PM
Davydenko is on a roll

Vision84
04-22-2008, 05:34 PM
Haha Ljubicic beat Federer on clay even if it was still 2001...

daddy
04-22-2008, 05:38 PM
Two guys can claim ownage over Fed: Rafter (3-0) and Kafelnikov (4-1). A serve and volleyer that quit while he was at his peak and a guy with one of the greatest 2HBH ever. Yet Fed pwns Aussie Hewitt 13-5 (11 straight), Russian Davydenko 12-0, and Russian Youzhny 10-0. Looks like Fed took his frustrations out on those helpless souls.

Hewitt down 7-13 to Federer. I dont know where did you get the info from but its a faulty place so it seems.

http://www.atptennis.com/3/en/players/headtohead/?player1=Hewitt%2C+Lleyton&player2=federer

cujays
04-22-2008, 05:50 PM
james blake

spiritdragon
04-22-2008, 10:15 PM
i'd say blake. he has the most weapons to hurt fed. although davydenko is ranked higher fed usually always dismantles him.

Leublu tennis
04-22-2008, 11:30 PM
Davydenko for sure. He lost his fear of Federer in Estoril. And Soderling, if he gets by Nalbandian. I know that Robredo is in between, but he does not count these days.

IvanAndreevich
04-23-2008, 12:23 AM
i'd say blake. he has the most weapons to hurt fed. although davydenko is ranked higher fed usually always dismantles him.

Have you seen Blake-Fed matches? Blake never ever had a chance. And in some of them he played really well. Like US Open 2006.

OP: on what surface?

I voted none. Of course, Fed can LOSE to any of them if something is wrong with him.

soyizgood
04-23-2008, 06:49 AM
Have you seen Blake-Fed matches? Blake never ever had a chance. And in some of them he played really well. Like US Open 2006.

OP: on what surface?

I voted none. Of course, Fed can LOSE to any of them if something is wrong with him.

It doesn't matter the surface. Some of these guys have lost so many times to Federer that I have to wonder if they have it in them to fight. Gonzalez got that bagel off at the Master's Cup, so maybe there's hope for one or two of the guys.

gj011
04-23-2008, 06:50 AM
Monfils :twisted:

JRstriker12
04-23-2008, 07:13 AM
Monfils :twisted:

I was in Miami for the Monfils/Fed match.

Monfils may have a chance if he didn't insist on playing 20 feet beind the baseline and worked on his mental aspect of the game.

FWIW - I think the "Beat up on Fed" period has passed. No more losses to Mardy Fish for Fed.

gj011
04-23-2008, 07:17 AM
I was in Miami for the Monfils/Fed match.

Monfils may have a chance if he didn't insist on playing 20 feet beind the baseline and worked on his mental aspect of the game.

FWIW - I think the "Beat up on Fed" period has passed. No more losses to Mardy Fish for Fed.

Edit: deleted spoiler.

JRstriker12
04-23-2008, 07:22 AM
Well you couldn't really say that based on Federer's today performance.

Meh..... He pulled it out in the end. First set was a 6-1 Fed. Not saying these guys can't give Fed a good match, I just don't think he'll be losing to the Mardy Fishes of the tennis world too much.

gj011
04-23-2008, 09:35 AM
Meh..... He pulled it out in the end. First set was a 6-1 Fed. Not saying these guys can't give Fed a good match, I just don't think he'll be losing to the Mardy Fishes of the tennis world too much.

Lol at me for deleting a "spoiler".

Hidalgo is much weaker opponent than Fish. So I would not say those days are gone yet.

Serpententacle
04-23-2008, 12:27 PM
Judging by Davydenko's cowardly withdrawl at Estoril, I can't see him ever pulling up his Depends against Federer. Ferrer would crush Fed on clay, though. I mean CRUSH.

soyizgood
04-23-2008, 12:36 PM
Judging by Davydenko's cowardly withdrawl at Estoril, I can't see him ever pulling up his Depends against Federer.

OUCH! Though it's looking that way for Davydenko. I just don't see the drive from Davydenko needed to win a major, let alone beat Federer.

I saw the highlights for the 2006 MC final and Blake kept hitting it to Fed's comfort zone. Meanwhile, Youzhny needs to direct that anger at the opponent and not his head.

Maybe Soderling will put it together. Same for Ferrer. As for the others, well stranger things have happened....

goforgold99
04-23-2008, 12:42 PM
NOONE !!

'Cause Federer will beat himself !

think about that ;)

grafrules
04-23-2008, 12:43 PM
NOONE !!

'Cause Federer will beat himself !

think about that ;)

Maybe that was the thinking. Such a long string of Federer losses now losing to Federer (himself), atleast all his losses since the Djokovic loss in Australia, that we need to think who will be the next one to beat him other then that same person.

stormholloway
04-23-2008, 04:00 PM
The obvious choice is Davydenko people. Who are these clowns picking Youzhny?

Babb
04-23-2008, 04:05 PM
Rather than jump on the Davydenko bandwagon after he won ONE tournament, and rather than worshiping Fed like a god though he has not done well in 2008, I chose Youzhny, just because he is a psycho and bashes his head with his racquet for messing up.

Babb
04-23-2008, 04:05 PM
NOONE !!

'Cause Federer will beat himself !

think about that ;)

Good post.

msc886
04-23-2008, 05:23 PM
Davydenko has been one of the closest so far and I think he is the closest of having what it takes.

Nadal_Freak
04-23-2008, 06:04 PM
Rather than jump on the Davydenko bandwagon after he won ONE tournament, and rather than worshiping Fed like a god though he has not done well in 2008, I chose Youzhny, just because he is a psycho and bashes his head with his racquet for messing up.
lol I'll take Ferrer since he is Spanish. Close enough to Nadal. :D

stormholloway
04-23-2008, 06:16 PM
Rather than jump on the Davydenko bandwagon after he won ONE tournament, and rather than worshiping Fed like a god though he has not done well in 2008, I chose Youzhny, just because he is a psycho and bashes his head with his racquet for messing up.

Ouch. Well, if you'd like you can read about all the raving I did about Davydenko back during the 2007 US Open. I was as impressed with Davydenko's ability as anyone's, including Federer's. I refuse to be lumped in with the post-Miami crowd.

I've been wearing my Limited Edition Nikolay Davydenko Fiesta Sombrero for two years running.

flyer
04-23-2008, 06:28 PM
i think a lot of them will/would if they were to get the oppertunity, i would say the only ones that i dont think would beat him if they played tomorrow would be moya, nimenin, blake and robredo, im assuming clay but on hard or grass i think others mentioned would have a great chance, hes playing that bad, i know some people may get bad and call me a troll and idiot and what ever but i really feel like hes not even playing close to a 10 level

flyer
04-23-2008, 06:52 PM
The obvious choice is Davydenko people. Who are these clowns picking Youzhny?

youzhny is very capable, maybe not on clay but he almost beat federer on grass at halle, even federer said youznhy should have won that match and he has consistently played federer tight, you should know this storm, come on your better than that.

soyizgood
05-14-2008, 03:57 PM
Nieminen will probably never beat Federer... 0-9 now.

tennis08tarheels
05-14-2008, 04:50 PM
If it's anyone from that list, it'll be Youzhny.

soyizgood
06-02-2008, 11:12 AM
Bump since Ferrer might have another shot at Federer. Also Monfils gets a shot at Fed in the QF. Nice going, finally!

veroniquem
06-02-2008, 11:14 AM
They're all *******s so they will bow down and let Fed win.
I don't think Ferrer is a *******, is he?

R.Federer
06-02-2008, 11:15 AM
oh plz ferrer hasnt got any weapons 2 trouble fed, his game plays into feds hand like a puppy

Serpententacle
06-02-2008, 11:17 AM
oh plz ferrer hasnt got any weapons 2 trouble fed, his game plays into feds hand like a puppy

A little too cocky there, son.

deme08
06-02-2008, 11:18 AM
I don't think Ferrer is a *******, is he?

I guess that makes the majority of ATP tour players *******s:twisted:

Nadal_Freak
06-02-2008, 11:24 AM
I don't think Ferrer is a *******, is he?
Did you see the Final in Shanghai? Yes Ferrer is especially a ******* as he gets destroyed by him every time no matter his form at the moment.

pow
06-02-2008, 11:27 AM
Too many players play right into Federer's strike zone. Most power baseliners will get beaten by Federer if they don't have something special in their arsenal, Nadal can consistently do it on clay because he moves so well and because his topspin forehand isn't in Federer's ideal strike zone and speed on both his forehand and backhand.

R.Federer
06-02-2008, 11:51 AM
A little too cocky there, son.

ferrer was playing out of his skin in shanghai last year and got wolloped by fed in 3 sets i like ferrer alot hes one of my favourite players but vs federer he doesnt have major weapons, as fed can utilize him with slices and changing the pace of the ball to well

veroniquem
06-02-2008, 11:58 AM
Did you see the Final in Shanghai? Yes Ferrer is especially a ******* as he gets destroyed by him every time no matter his form at the moment.
Sorry, I took ******* as meaning a Fed fan, so I meant I don't think Ferrer particularly likes Fed!

veroniquem
06-02-2008, 11:59 AM
ferrer was playing out of his skin in shanghai last year and got wolloped by fed in 3 sets i like ferrer alot hes one of my favourite players but vs federer he doesnt have major weapons, as fed can utilize him with slices and changing the pace of the ball to well
But that wasn't clay, the game is different on clay.

Nadal_Freak
06-02-2008, 12:11 PM
Sorry, I took ******* as meaning a Fed fan, so I meant I don't think Ferrer particularly likes Fed!
I think he does. He respects him too much and therefore is willing to just give it to Federer.

drakulie
06-02-2008, 12:29 PM
^^^ I suppose that goes for nadal too since he lost to him twice in the Wimbledon finals? :roll:

R.Federer
06-02-2008, 12:31 PM
But that wasn't clay, the game is different on clay.

i disagree as the last time federer played ferrer on clay he bageled him i believe its even harder 4 ferrer to beat him on clay than on hardcourts

matchmaker
06-02-2008, 12:32 PM
Ferrer, this year in the semis of the FO. Watch my words.

veroniquem
06-02-2008, 01:25 PM
I know which guy will finally beat Fed at RG! starts with an N and ends with an L :)

joeri888
06-02-2008, 01:40 PM
I think he does. He respects him too much and therefore is willing to just give it to Federer.

You mean like Verdasco did against Rafa?
Sure, those guys are mentally drained against fed but you got to give him credit for it. They don't believe they can win, because Federe usually beats the crap out of them even if they feel theyre playin well. It's not like they just don't have enough mental skill to play high level tennis. Federer's just been amazing for the last few years, and there's tons of players that have a bagel-record to him. Just the ones that were good before roger was (roger was had a pretty late breakthrough) like Nalbandian, Hewitt, Rafter, Kafelnikov, Henman, Safin, don't have awful records against Roger, because they won many times when Roger was young. Of course Rafa's record is great as well.

joeri888
06-02-2008, 01:40 PM
I know which guy will finally beat Fed at RG! starts with an N and ends with an L :)

You should wait and see, hope you jinxed your boy.

joeri888
06-02-2008, 01:41 PM
Ferrer, this year in the semis of the FO. Watch my words.

Not a great prediction given that he's got to win just one more match against a guy not even ranked top 50. But I'll mark your words.

veroniquem
06-02-2008, 01:47 PM
You should wait and see, hope you jinxed your boy.
I didn't write his name so I didn't jinx him ;-)

soyizgood
06-02-2008, 02:00 PM
Not a great prediction given that he's got to win just one more match against a guy not even ranked top 50. But I'll mark your words.

I think he meant Ferrer will beat Federer in the semifinals.

TheTruth
06-02-2008, 04:21 PM
Did you see the Final in Shanghai? Yes Ferrer is especially a ******* as he gets destroyed by him every time no matter his form at the moment.

Absolutely! Although I wouldn't call him the biggest one. That list was pretty impressive when it comes to paying homage to Fed!

soyizgood
06-04-2008, 09:20 AM
Gonzalez returned to being a MAJOR *******.

dh003i
06-04-2008, 10:03 AM
Two guys can claim ownage over Fed: Rafter (3-0) and Kafelnikov (4-1). A serve and volleyer that quit while he was at his peak and a guy with one of the greatest 2HBH ever. Yet Fed pwns Aussie Hewitt 13-5 (11 straight), Russian Davydenko 12-0, and Russian Youzhny 10-0. Looks like Fed took his frustrations out on those helpless souls.

A prime Federer wouldn't have a 3-0 record or 4-1 vs. Rafter and Kafelnikov, respectively. He'd be the one dominating them.

joeri888
06-04-2008, 10:17 AM
So I guess Verdasco and Almagro are the biggest *******s in history now and they don't put in an effort because they know they can't win.

soyizgood
06-04-2008, 01:46 PM
So I guess Verdasco and Almagro are the biggest *******s in history now and they don't put in an effort because they know they can't win.

Are you sure those clowns aren't French by any chance? Because they waved the white flag real fast. For so-called "clay courters" they looked like they were playing on grass...BAD!

Federer is a true ******* on clay. What is it..1-8?

soyizgood
06-04-2008, 07:03 PM
Does Monfils have a real chance to beat Federer? He's never beaten him either.

FedForGOAT
06-04-2008, 07:09 PM
i'd say blake. he has the most weapons to hurt fed. although davydenko is ranked higher fed usually always dismantles him.

When Blake hits one of his flat, powerful forehand, it has no angles, so there is not many places he can hit it. Federer will get to it in time, hit a half volley backhand and use Blake's pace to hit a winner. It's an all too common phenomenon.

soyizgood
06-06-2008, 11:28 AM
I should do another poll called Biggest *******s. Gonzalez and Monfils would get included.

soyizgood
06-16-2008, 01:21 PM
Kohlschreiber would be a worthy candidate too if he actually was consistent. Lost in Halle to Fed in'05 and '08 by the exact score: 6-3 6-4.

soyizgood
06-20-2008, 01:49 PM
Assuming both Federer and Soderling win their 1st round match, they'll meet in round 2. If Federer wins that one, he may run into Monfils again. And if Fed gets through him, Gonzalez may await him.

That means possibly 3 consecutive matches against *******s. Can one of those guys step it up and end the insanity?

veroniquem
06-20-2008, 01:56 PM
Assuming both Federer and Soderling win their 1st round match, they'll meet in round 2. If Federer wins that one, he may run into Monfils again. And if Fed gets through him, Gonzalez may await him.

That means possibly 3 consecutive matches against *******s. Can one of those guys step it up and end the insanity?
No.
10chars

moonbat
06-20-2008, 04:26 PM
Maybe Soderling. He doesn't seem easily intimidated.

zagor
06-20-2008, 04:29 PM
That means possibly 3 consecutive matches against *******s. Can one of those guys step it up and end the insanity?

Hm,no Mr.******* I think they're all due to another spanking by Fed but we'll see.

Tennisguy777
06-20-2008, 05:12 PM
When Blake hits one of his flat, powerful forehand, it has no angles, so there is not many places he can hit it. Federer will get to it in time, hit a half volley backhand and use Blake's pace to hit a winner. It's an all too common phenomenon.
I like Blake but until he learns bang bang tennis won't always win you a match he has no shot at beating Federer or improving to being a top 3 player. He needs to learn variety of pace and shots.

soyizgood
06-20-2008, 06:21 PM
Hm,no Mr.******* I think they're all due to another spanking by Fed but we'll see.

I am not a *******. If Fed and Nadal meet in the finals AGAIN at Wimby, I'll pull for Nadal. Just as I'd be willing to root for Fed at the FO next year, though part of that is out of pity after that BEATDOWN Fed suffered.

vndesu
06-20-2008, 06:24 PM
I am not a *******. If Fed and Nadal meet in the finals AGAIN at Wimby, I'll pull for Nadal. Just as I'd be willing to root for Fed at the FO next year, though part of that is out of pity after that BEATDOWN Fed suffered.

federer is gonna kill nadal at wimby. thats if nadal makes it far

armsty
06-20-2008, 06:25 PM
Where's the other option?

Hewitt!

Breaker
06-20-2008, 06:26 PM
Where's the other option?

Hewitt!

I think 7 wins against Fed earns him a spot not in this poll.

soyizgood
06-20-2008, 08:24 PM
I think 7 wins against Fed earns him a spot not in this poll.

Hasn't Hewitt lost 11 in a row to Fed? That would qualify as being a *******, but not enough to be on this poll. Though that is a 5 year drought.

pfchang
06-20-2008, 11:15 PM
i'd say davydenko. that dude is a solid playa...
no one else even comes close to comparing.

but then again you only see davydenko high in the rankings cuz he plays like every event.

Arham Zafar
06-20-2008, 11:31 PM
Ferrer....he Has It In Him.

soyizgood
07-25-2008, 09:17 PM
And to think Simon has beaten Fed before these guys...

soyizgood
08-13-2008, 07:38 PM
Bumping this back into play. Let's see how many Blake supporters vote for him.

laurie
08-14-2008, 01:08 AM
Karlovic wasn't on this poll but he was the first out of those mentioned in the poll to break his duck against Federer in Cincinnati two weeks ago.

As for the others in the poll, can't see any of them beating Fed, even though Fed is in bad form.

What does that really say about those players in the poll?

Gorecki
08-14-2008, 03:10 AM
please note the demential level of post nr. 3.

Telepatic
08-14-2008, 06:37 AM
Davydenko first in the poll..lol

iamke55
08-14-2008, 07:06 AM
Karlovic wasn't on this poll but he was the first out of those mentioned in the poll to break his duck against Federer in Cincinnati two weeks ago.

As for the others in the poll, can't see any of them beating Fed, even though Fed is in bad form.

What does that really say about those players in the poll?

Federer has strong competition, confirmed.

soyizgood
08-14-2008, 07:19 AM
SPOILER---


Blake beat the guys on the list...

Tarsier
08-14-2008, 07:37 AM
Well, Blake's finished 3d in the vote. Let's hope it'll bring him the bronze medal at least.:)

ExPro1963
08-14-2008, 08:30 AM
Blakes beaten Federer in the olympic singles

coloskier
08-14-2008, 08:32 AM
Blakes beaten Federer in the olympic singles

I guess now we know the answer.

soyizgood
08-14-2008, 08:40 AM
I guess now we know the answer.

It took 4 months for someone on the poll to pull it off. That and 78 losses among these guys for it to happen.

soyizgood
08-14-2008, 08:43 AM
Fed had won 40+ straight matches against Americans, but has lost 3 times to Americans this year. Go USA!

MEAC_ALLAMERICAN
08-14-2008, 08:46 AM
Fed had won 40+ straight matches against Americans, but has lost 3 times to Americans this year. Go USA!

Don't play yourself, because you of all people expected James to fold.

soyizgood
08-14-2008, 08:58 AM
Don't play yourself, because you of all people expected James to fold.

I already admitted I'm eating crow. I'm not going to take part in another Federer vs [insert name] thread anytime soon. It's still true that Blake worships Federer. But for one day Blake came out on top.

fastdunn
08-14-2008, 09:04 AM
I can gaurantee Blake will say something like "Federer was not normal..." in the post-match interview. Today's result does not conflict with his belief system. :)

jt1224x0
08-14-2008, 09:05 AM
federer is gonna kill nadal at wimby. thats if nadal makes it far

hahahahahahahaha LOL

MEAC_ALLAMERICAN
08-14-2008, 09:05 AM
Get off James's jock, because a lot, if not all of you had this notion that he was a worshipper on Federer's throne. :roll:


Either way, America is in medal contention.

oberyn
08-14-2008, 09:17 AM
Fed had won 40+ straight matches against Americans, but has lost 3 times to Americans this year. Go USA!

And Ginepri served for the match against Fed in Cincy.

Rexking
08-14-2008, 09:18 AM
When is Davydenko going to get his first win?

MEAC_ALLAMERICAN
08-14-2008, 09:22 AM
I already admitted I'm eating crow. I'm not going to take part in another Federer vs [insert name] thread anytime soon. It's still true that Blake worships Federer. But for one day Blake came out on top.


Enuf said, but being the thread starter, I just wanted to go by the protocol

babbette
08-14-2008, 09:25 AM
it's all part of his master plan to be fresh for the US open.:)

Satch
08-14-2008, 09:29 AM
When is Davydenko going to get his first win?

next time he plays Fed... :-?

federer envies me
08-14-2008, 11:22 AM
i think the obvious answer is now blake

beedlejuice22
08-14-2008, 11:39 AM
When is Davydenko going to get his first win?

Davydenko who?

DarkSephiroth
08-14-2008, 12:27 PM
And the winner is.. James Blake!

sp00q
08-14-2008, 12:29 PM
And the winner is.. James Blake!

All the others are next. :twisted:

TheTruth
08-14-2008, 12:33 PM
Oops, wrong place to post this

ledor
08-14-2008, 02:36 PM
Blake wins. End Thread.

fastdunn
08-14-2008, 02:47 PM
i think davydenko can do it on carpet. problem is he sounded like he is getting burned out too....