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tennisee
04-28-2008, 12:27 AM
Just an idle thought. The butt cap of a Vantage has a V (sort of) logo, and as it's uncommon, I wonder how the TWers are calling the pre-match spin?
I've settled on "mountain or valley?" which is unambiguous, but perhaps there's a neater way...

Edit:

I should have said - how are Vantage users calling the spin?

We don't have the good old P/d M/W
Srings Up/Down can be dicey as not everyone knows that (and my last 2 piece string job went both ways)

HoVa
04-28-2008, 12:35 AM
I would always carry a coin.

Then I would tell them to pick heads or tails. If it winds up on heads, I would kill them with an air gun to the forehead.

nickb
04-28-2008, 01:34 AM
Just use the strings...."rough or smooth".

Nick

Nitro
04-28-2008, 02:45 AM
If its a V why don't you use up and down?

vince916
04-28-2008, 02:49 AM
I just rotate with all sayings.

Rough/Smooth
Up/Down
p/d
W/M

Cup8489
04-28-2008, 05:18 AM
coin toss for me.

slice bh compliment
04-28-2008, 05:25 AM
Rough or smooth, man, that's old school...with an e. Olde School.

I've always gone with up or down. Not matter the logo.

Brand-specific (p or d / m or w) seems a little bush league to me. I know it's not, and it's pretty common to hear.

A coin toss is best, but to me it seems like too much effort unless it's a big official match with a chair umpire presiding.

V for Vantage, well that's up. Upside down V is down. That's WAYYYY more clear-cut than Volkl or Babolat (which requires a basic understanding of the way the logo is meant to be).

I feel the Dunlop flying D logo is fairly clean, but some guys I've seen to do Dunlops sideways so that the arrow points either up or down.

TheShaun
04-28-2008, 05:40 AM
what does rough or smooth mean?

VGP
04-28-2008, 06:44 AM
^^^^ back in the day......

.....trebling was applied to the tops and bottoms of tennis strings in the frame.

Thin string that was looped through the mains. In calling the "toss" you would choose rough or smooth based on whether the loops were on top (rough) or the string base was on top (smooth).

Perhaps you'd have to see it to get it better......

Someone post a pic of trebling.

timsims
04-28-2008, 08:40 AM
I say, "V or not a V?"

Nuke
04-28-2008, 08:46 AM
Someone post a pic of trebling.

http://www.sportsartifacts.com/othbudgeraq.JPG

vince916
04-28-2008, 10:36 AM
I never knew rough or smooth referred to the strings. I always applied it to the emblem.

Nice info to know.

rasajadad
04-28-2008, 12:02 PM
what does rough or smooth mean?

When I string a frame, I pull all my knots in the same direction. So when I trim them-
Rough= the side with the four pieces of string sticking out
Smooth= the side with the four knots

Bud
04-28-2008, 01:23 PM
Here's a better pic of trebling (thread beneath lowest cross string):

http://www.tennisenthusiast.com/spalspec.jpg

MAX PLY
04-28-2008, 01:32 PM
Does anyone know the origin of the phrase "trebling" in this context?

MAX PLY
04-28-2008, 01:33 PM
I guess I should have said the term "trebling".

DrewRafter8
04-28-2008, 02:40 PM
I just tell my opponent to spin.

tennisee
04-28-2008, 02:55 PM
Trebling does not appear in the complete Oxford English Dictionary - how odd.
Only ref is to multiplying by 3 (and three layers of wood around whaling boats)
I did find a couple of refs to it on UK stringers' sites.

I assumed the trebling was put in to make it easier to see which way the rough and smooth of the strings (the cut, as mentioned above) was.

My Donnay Allwoods have "My Choice" "Your Choice" written on them - better than some I've seen with "My Serve" "Your Serve".

tennisee
04-28-2008, 02:56 PM
I just tell my opponent to spin.

Yeah - I tend to do too that if I can!

TheShaun
04-28-2008, 05:32 PM
^^^^ back in the day......

.....trebling was applied to the tops and bottoms of tennis strings in the frame.

Thin string that was looped through the mains. In calling the "toss" you would choose rough or smooth based on whether the loops were on top (rough) or the string base was on top (smooth).

Perhaps you'd have to see it to get it better......

Someone post a pic of trebling.

thanks. funny thing is i have an old woodie with the trebling on it. now i know what it's for.