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pound cat
04-29-2008, 02:41 PM
That headline to me was almost as surprising as Goran winning Wimbledon. It's not that logically it was not expected..but all I think of in clay is Spain, S. America, Nadal & Federer. Way to go Nikolay.

ATP Tour - Claycourt Rankings: New No. 3
Eurosport - Tue, 29 Apr 11:18:00 2008
EXCLUSIVE! After his semi-finals performance at Monte Carlo in-form Russian Nikolay Davydenko overtakes Nicolas Almagro at third in Eurosport's latest ATP claycourt rankings.



Spain's Almagro slips down the ladder for the first time this year, but already has eight secure points in 2008 thanks to his two titles in South America and runner-up showing in Valencia.

With Rafael Nadal and Roger Federer firmly entrenched in the top two positions, the battle of the season now becomes for that number three place.

World number three Novak Djokovic keeps his deficit from Davydenko at three points, making up for the decision not to defend his Estoril title by earning semi-final points at Monte Carlo to move back up three places to sixth in the rankings.

There was one major winner in the bottom half of the top-20, meanwhile, as French Open quarter-finalist Igor Andreev rocketed up seven places to 15th thanks to a quarter-final appearance in Monte Carlo

Alexio92
04-29-2008, 02:45 PM
Thats probably a very accurate statement.
He should have been in multiple fo finals by now atleast.

Grimjack
04-30-2008, 08:17 AM
LOL @ "clay court rankings."

"FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WONDER HOW YOUR FAVORITES WILL DO WHEN THEY PLAY IN THE THIRD WORLD."

Any ranking system where a no-talent like Almagro was #3, even for a little while, ought to be dismissed as less than meaningless.

fer
04-30-2008, 08:24 AM
LOL @ "clay court rankings."

"FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WONDER HOW YOUR FAVORITES WILL DO WHEN THEY PLAY IN THE THIRD WORLD."

Any ranking system where a no-talent like Almagro was #3, even for a little while, ought to be dismissed as less than meaningless.

Anyone ranked number 22 is far from beeing a no talent, he has a very good serve and backhand. According to you what clay tournament is played on a third world country?

Nadal_Freak
04-30-2008, 09:24 AM
LOL @ "clay court rankings."

"FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO WONDER HOW YOUR FAVORITES WILL DO WHEN THEY PLAY IN THE THIRD WORLD."

Any ranking system where a no-talent like Almagro was #3, even for a little while, ought to be dismissed as less than meaningless.
LOL at you completely dismissing clay courts as a factor.

fastdunn
04-30-2008, 10:34 AM
I think Davydenko is starting to understand organic surfaces with uncertain bounces. I expect his results on grass will become better as well.

Andres
04-30-2008, 10:54 AM
Anyone ranked number 22 is far from beeing a no talent, he has a very good serve and backhand. According to you what clay tournament is played on a third world country?
According to the acclaimed concept of 'third world country' : Viņa del Mar, Buenos Aires, Acapulco and Costa do Sauipe are third-world-countries events. Also Casablanca.

Andres
04-30-2008, 10:56 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/08/First_second_third_worlds_map.svg/800px-First_second_third_worlds_map.svg.png

First (blue), Second (red), and the Third World (green) countries


The term "First World" refers to so called developed, capitalist, industrial countries, roughly, a bloc of countries aligned with the United States after word war II, with more or less common political and economic interests: North America, Western Europe, Japan and Australia.

"Second World" refers to the former communist-socialist, industrial states, (formerly the Eastern bloc, the territory and sphere of influence of the Union of Soviet Socialists Republic) today: Russia, Eastern Europe (e.g., Poland) and some of the Turk States (e.g., Kazakhstan) as well as China.

"Third World" are all the other countries, today often used to roughly describe the developing countries of Africa, Asia and Latin America.
The term Third World includes as well capitalist (e.g., Venezuela) and communist (e.g., North Korea) countries, as very rich (e.g., Saudi Arabia) and very poor (e.g., Mali) countries.

Nadal_Freak
04-30-2008, 11:33 AM
I guess the results by each tennis player is decided by only their "First World." What a joke of a logic.

fer
04-30-2008, 11:50 AM
According to the acclaimed concept of 'third world country' : Viņa del Mar, Buenos Aires, Acapulco and Costa do Sauipe are third-world-countries events. Also Casablanca.

I was thinking on the clay tournaments played on Europe, I forgot about the Latin american tournaments, but I dont think that a country like Argentina, Chile or Mexico can be compared to some of the countries in Africa.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:UN_Human_Development_Report_2007_%282%29.svg

Leublu tennis
04-30-2008, 12:26 PM
I think Davydenko is starting to understand organic surfaces with uncertain bounces. I expect his results on grass will become better as well.
I know, I asked this before, but what organ does clay come from?

Andres
04-30-2008, 12:31 PM
I was thinking on the clay tournaments played on Europe, I forgot about the Latin american tournaments, but I dont think that a country like Argentina, Chile or Mexico can be compared to some of the countries in Africa.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:UN_Human_Development_Report_2007_%282%29.svg
I don't either, but all latin american countries are listed in the third world, wether we like it or not :?

Leublu tennis
04-30-2008, 12:37 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/08/First_second_third_worlds_map.svg/800px-First_second_third_worlds_map.svg.png

First (blue), Second (red), and the Third World (green) countries


The term "First World" refers to so called developed, capitalist, industrial countries, roughly, a bloc of countries aligned with the United States after word war II, with more or less common political and economic interests: North America, Western Europe, Japan and Australia.

"Second World" refers to the former communist-socialist, industrial states, (formerly the Eastern bloc, the territory and sphere of influence of the Union of Soviet Socialists Republic) today: Russia, Eastern Europe (e.g., Poland) and some of the Turk States (e.g., Kazakhstan) as well as China.

"Third World" are all the other countries, today often used to roughly describe the developing countries of Africa, Asia and Latin America.
The term Third World includes as well capitalist (e.g., Venezuela) and communist (e.g., North Korea) countries, as very rich (e.g., Saudi Arabia) and very poor (e.g., Mali) countries.
Thats a silly description based on a quasi political/economic basis which makes no sence. India is a third world country? And Russia is a "second world" whatever that is. And all the economic giants of the Middle East like UAR are thirld world? Where does all this nonsence come from? But then I have not heard the term second world either. Is there a fourth and fifth world out there somewhere? And is this related to tennis in any way?

Andres
04-30-2008, 12:40 PM
Thats a silly description based on a quasi political/economic basis which makes no sence. India is a third world country? And Russia is a "second world" whatever that is. And all the economic giants of the Middle East like UAR are thirld world? Where does all this nonsence come from? But then I have not heard the term second world either. Is there a fourth and fifth world out there somewhere? And is this related to tennis in any way?
Ask Grimjack. You can only win clay events in Europe, the rest don't count.