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goforgold99
05-03-2008, 03:23 AM
Rome Draw is out: http://www.atptennis.com/en/common/TrackIt.asp?file=http://www.atptennis.com/1/posting/2008/416/mds.pdf

Federers Half is just B-R-U-T-A-L:

First Match: possibly against Canas
Next round: Mathieu (who's in great shape at the moment)
Quater: Gasquet or Ferrer
Semi: Djokovic or Nalbandian
Final: Well.. who else: Rafa :D

zagor
05-03-2008, 03:28 AM
Canas will be hard but Mathieu is a mental flake(even if he is a very good player),Gasquet hasn't beaten Federer since 2005 and Roger owns Ferrer.As for Nalbandian or Djokovic,he beat both of them in Monte Carlo.I think Federer can reach the final here,however nothing is sure with Roger this days although he was playing some great tennis in Monte Carlo so I hope he gains points here.

Zaragoza
05-03-2008, 03:42 AM
Rome Draw is out: http://www.atptennis.com/en/common/TrackIt.asp?file=http://www.atptennis.com/1/posting/2008/416/mds.pdf

Federers Half is just B-R-U-T-A-L:

First Match: possibly against Canas
Next round: Mathieu (who's in great shape at the moment)
Quater: Gasquet or Ferrer
Semi: Djokovic or Nalbandian
Final: Well.. who else: Rafa :D

What is brutal? Caņas just lost in straight sets to Robredo, he is not in good form this year. Mathieu and Starace are not particularly tough for a 3rd round of a MS.
Ferrer has never troubled Federer and he will be tired after Barcelona. Gasquet? What has he done on clay lately?
If Federer plays at his usual level his first serious test would be in the SF. If he doesnīt, then anything can happen but it wonīt be because his draw was particularly hard.

joeri888
05-03-2008, 05:56 AM
The draw is tough, and doesn't really get much tougher. Still, Fed is Fed and favourite to reach the final in that half.. But I can't really imagine a muh tougher one. Maybe MC was tougher, but that one looked especially tough because of the way Roger played in those earlier rounds and Estoril.
We'll see, if Roger's trying to be a real competitor at Roland Garros, he should be able to reach the final here. (tough Volandri beat him here last year, if I'm not mistakin)

I just hope that at the FO, Roger's gonna have the easiest draw ever (Karlovic, Roddick, as the seeds in his half please) won't lose a set on his way to the final, and meets an exhausted Nadal there. Rome isn't the goal, it's just a small step.

Forehand Forever
05-03-2008, 06:03 AM
I just hope that at the FO, Roger's gonna have the easiest draw ever (Karlovic, Roddick, as the seeds in his half please) won't lose a set on his way to the final, and meets an exhausted Nadal there. Rome isn't the goal, it's just a small step.

Even if those are the seeds for Roger, does anyone really expect Roddick to make it past the 2nd round?

joeri888
05-03-2008, 06:12 AM
Even if those are the seeds for Roger, does anyone really expect Roddick to make it past the 2nd round?

No, but it means there's no Ferrer or Nalbandian in his draw, so I'll take Roddick..;)I'm surely not expecting roddick in the FO quarters.

flyer
05-03-2008, 06:14 AM
Alright guy lets hear about how tough Federer's draw is!!!....

Aabye
05-03-2008, 06:15 AM
The draw is tough, and doesn't really get much tougher. Still, Fed is Fed and favourite to reach the final in that half.. But I can't really imagine a muh tougher one. Maybe MC was tougher, but that one looked especially tough because of the way Roger played in those earlier rounds and Estoril.
We'll see, if Roger's trying to be a real competitor at Roland Garros, he should be able to reach the final here. (tough Volandri beat him here last year, if I'm not mistakin)

I just hope that at the FO, Roger's gonna have the easiest draw ever (Karlovic, Roddick, as the seeds in his half please) won't lose a set on his way to the final, and meets an exhausted Nadal there. Rome isn't the goal, it's just a small step.

I'm guessing somebody will be cheering for Nadal to win the doubles with Robredo again. :)

That's a tough draw if it pans like that for sure, but Fed comes through again if he plays like he did at Monte Carlo where he had to play BOTH Djokovic and Nalbandian. The potential Djokovic-Federer clash should be more interesting than last time though, now that the kid has had some time off.

joeri888
05-03-2008, 06:23 AM
I'm guessing somebody will be cheering for Nadal to win the doubles with Robredo again. :)

That's a tough draw if it pans like that for sure, but Fed comes through again if he plays like he did at Monte Carlo where he had to play BOTH Djokovic and Nalbandian. The potential Djokovic-Federer clash should be more interesting than last time though, now that the kid has had some time off.

Didn't the kid have some time off between his first round loss in Miami and his matches in Monte Carlo?

Roger's draw is toguh, but so is Ferrer's of course, as well as Nalbandian's, Djokovic's. But they could consider themselves lucky not to face Nadal earlier than the final.

jmsx521
05-03-2008, 06:39 AM
On my Racket-Bracket I actually picked Canas to beat Federer. I'd say 5-7 7-5 7-6... an epic 2nd round match (full of blisters on the feet and hands)!

gj011
05-03-2008, 06:47 AM
Top half is definitely tougher than the bottom, but Novak's quarter is the toughest.
No reason for Fed funs to cry already.

federerfanatic
05-03-2008, 06:48 AM
What is brutal? Caņas just lost in straight sets to Robredo, he is not in good form this year. Mathieu and Starace are not particularly tough for a 3rd round of a MS.
Ferrer has never troubled Federer and he will be tired after Barcelona. Gasquet? What has he done on clay lately?
If Federer plays at his usual level his first serious test would be in the SF. If he doesnīt, then anything can happen but it wonīt be because his draw was particularly hard.

I agree. There is nothing that tough about the draw.

Aabye
05-03-2008, 07:17 AM
Didn't the kid have some time off between his first round loss in Miami and his matches in Monte Carlo?

Roger's draw is toguh, but so is Ferrer's of course, as well as Nalbandian's, Djokovic's. But they could consider themselves lucky not to face Nadal earlier than the final.

Yeah, that's true. But that was from hardcourts to clay. Now he should be more acclimated to the surface. And with that in mind, along with his week off I going to hope his asthma doesn't act up.

Nadal_Freak
05-03-2008, 07:45 AM
Luckily for Fed, there is always Hamburg to play to make up for it if he loses early here. Worst case scenario is Fed exhausts himself before the French Open so maybe losing early might help him if he plans to play Hamburg regardless.

RoddickistheMan
05-03-2008, 09:04 AM
IMO draw isnt that bad until the semis, Canas isnt playing great tennis at the moment, matheiu is a mental flake, federer owns ferrer Gasquet is a mental flake as well. DJokovic is feds main concern as it will be interesting to see how this match up will fare on clay.

dh003i
05-03-2008, 10:26 AM
Fed's draw is tougher than Nadal's.

Nadal_Freak
05-03-2008, 10:39 AM
Fed's draw is tougher than Nadal's.
Yep another brutal draw. These Master Series really make it difficult. :D

Babb
05-03-2008, 10:42 AM
Fed's draw is a test to see if he is worthy of facing the king ;)

drakulie
05-03-2008, 11:13 AM
Oh my!! He is actually playing top players??? :roll:

What do you expect?? For Fed to play guys in college the first few rounds???

dh003i
05-03-2008, 11:13 AM
Nadal_Freak,

If that's supposed to prove some point, it doesn't.

Defcon
05-03-2008, 11:18 AM
Nadal almost always gets cakewalk draws. Not that it matters much now since its clay.

bangchu
05-03-2008, 11:55 AM
What is brutal? Caņas just lost in straight sets to Robredo, he is not in good form this year. Mathieu and Starace are not particularly tough for a 3rd round of a MS.
Ferrer has never troubled Federer and he will be tired after Barcelona. Gasquet? What has he done on clay lately?
If Federer plays at his usual level his first serious test would be in the SF. If he doesnīt, then anything can happen but it wonīt be because his draw was particularly hard.

Are you one of those chump Nadal fans who claimed Nadal's draw at Monte Carlo was so tough? So double standard. This unfortunately shows what kind of person most Nadal fans are.

Nadal_Freak
05-03-2008, 12:05 PM
You know this board is ******* city when Zaragoza is called a chump. Fed fans want all the glory and anytime someone mentions something is not what exactly another Fed fan thinks, they are given a hard time. Toughen up Fed fans.

Lotto
05-03-2008, 12:12 PM
I can see Fed walking through to the final. Don't worry Fed Fanatics, Djokovic or Nalbandian won't stop him and the up to the SF is a joke, for Fed like, maybe not for your average pro but for Roger it is.

joeri888
05-03-2008, 12:14 PM
Are you one of those chump Nadal fans who claimed Nadal's draw at Monte Carlo was so tough? So double standard. This unfortunately shows what kind of person most Nadal fans are.

Please shut up, Zaragoza is a Nadal fan, but he (mostly) explains his opinion, backs it up with facts, and doesn't call people that disagree chumps all the time.

I agree with him that Nadal's draw was tough, but since it's clay it looked like Ferrer and Davydenko weren't tough, while one of them made the estoril final and the other the Barcelona final, so their pretty good on clay.

WhiskeyEE
05-03-2008, 12:17 PM
I really don't like how they put the 3rd seed with the 1 seed... that should never happen. If you're number 1 seed you should get the luxury of playing the worse players compared to the number 2 seed.

gj011
05-03-2008, 12:27 PM
I really don't like how they put the 3rd seed with the 1 seed... that should never happen. If you're number 1 seed you should get the luxury of playing the worse players compared to the number 2 seed.

Than Nadal should be #1 seed on clay tournaments.

The draw is fine the way it is.

Nadal_Freak
05-03-2008, 12:29 PM
I really don't like how they put the 3rd seed with the 1 seed... that should never happen. If you're number 1 seed you should get the luxury of playing the worse players compared to the number 2 seed.
I disagree. I prefer to see different matchups each tournament. Makes the game more interesting. I think they should alternate it though for each big tournament rather than random.

MEAC_ALLAMERICAN
05-03-2008, 12:34 PM
This Federer and Nadal fan crap is getting a little old; don't you guys get tired of arguing about the same thing over and over again, under different threads? :roll:

ClubHoUno
05-03-2008, 12:49 PM
I just know that I love to watch Rafa on clay and Fed on grass and HC :D

I'm a Fed & Rafa fan :lol:

soyizgood
05-03-2008, 01:28 PM
This Federer and Nadal fan crap is getting a little old; don't you guys get tired of arguing about the same thing over and over again, under different threads? :roll:

But it wouldn't be the #1 TTW rivalry (http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=184260) if these guys weren't so irrational about it. :)

The-Champ
05-03-2008, 01:58 PM
Fed should be put in Nadal's half in every clay tournament, in that way fed will never reach another clay final in his life :)

DarthMaul
05-03-2008, 02:02 PM
That's a hell a lot of hard practice for Fed before the final. If he gets to the final, Nadal will have a hard fight from Fed.

dh003i
05-03-2008, 02:16 PM
I like the way the draw is in theory, set up to provide maximum likelihood the best players will get to the QF, SF, and F.

Zaragoza
05-03-2008, 03:55 PM
Are you one of those chump Nadal fans who claimed Nadal's draw at Monte Carlo was so tough? So double standard. This unfortunately shows what kind of person most Nadal fans are.

Edit:

Itīs ok, I donīt want to add more fuel. Others replied for me, even some Federer fan. Thanks.

Arrows
05-03-2008, 06:42 PM
OP: Mathieu? I don't think so.

Federer will be fine taking on [3] or [7]; MC was less than 2 weeks ago. Provided [3] and [7] don't annihilate each other in the quarters, first. Blood-bath Q-F between Djokovic and Nalbandian? Yeah, can't wait.



Arrows
"No, it's Wigner's friend."

bangchu
05-03-2008, 06:56 PM
Please shut up, Zaragoza is a Nadal fan, but he (mostly) explains his opinion, backs it up with facts, and doesn't call people that disagree chumps all the time.

I agree with him that Nadal's draw was tough, but since it's clay it looked like Ferrer and Davydenko weren't tough, while one of them made the estoril final and the other the Barcelona final, so their pretty good on clay.

Shut up what? Do you even understand what my post implied? I don't think Nadal's draw at Monte Carlo is any tougher than Federer's at Rome. If Zaragoza did open his mouth and say Nadal's draw was brutal then he deserved to be called a chump. Otherwise he is not. I just simply asked that if he is one of those chumps since we all know how bad most Nadal fans can be. My post might sound negative but I think it is correct way to deal with the majority of people here. If you have the power to stuck it up and be nice all the time, then kudos to you.

bangchu
05-03-2008, 06:57 PM
You know this board is ******* city when Zaragoza is called a chump. Fed fans want all the glory and anytime someone mentions something is not what exactly another Fed fan thinks, they are given a hard time. Toughen up Fed fans.

Then may be this city does not welcome chump Nadal's fan like u. You can always shut up and disappear.

Zaragoza
05-04-2008, 01:50 AM
Nadal almost always gets cakewalk draws. Not that it matters much now since its clay.

He was really lucky in Indian Wells and Miami. If he had played Blake, Berdych or Tsonga he wouldnīt have reached the final/semifinal. Ok,I hope itīs enough with the double standards.

scineram
05-04-2008, 05:14 AM
He was really lucky in Indian Wells and Miami. If he had played Blake, Berdych or Tsonga he wouldnīt have reached the final/semifinal. Ok,I hope itīs enough with the double standards.

Did he not beat Blake twice there?

veroniquem
05-04-2008, 05:44 AM
Are you one of those chump Nadal fans who claimed Nadal's draw at Monte Carlo was so tough? So double standard. This unfortunately shows what kind of person most Nadal fans are.
Zaragoza is one of the most serious and knowledgeable people on this board. Your remark is grossly out of place here.

downey stringing master
05-04-2008, 06:07 AM
Rome Draw is out: http://www.atptennis.com/en/common/TrackIt.asp?file=http://www.atptennis.com/1/posting/2008/416/mds.pdf

Federers Half is just B-R-U-T-A-L:

First Match: possibly against Canas
Next round: Mathieu (who's in great shape at the moment)
Quater: Gasquet or Ferrer
Semi: Djokovic or Nalbandian
Final: Well.. who else: Rafa :D

all these people may lose..

NamRanger
05-04-2008, 08:27 AM
Did he not beat Blake twice there?


Its called sarcasm.

Serpententacle
05-04-2008, 09:29 AM
Wow... the excuses are being premeditated now for Fed? What's up with that? Have a little confidence in your champion Don't whine.

Now it's full-poof for the Fetid-turds. If Fed wins, they can cry with exaltation that he won with a "brutal half"... but if he loses they will cry with lamentation that the draw was too "brutal"... come on. You guys are becoming pathetic.

Federer has just as much a chance in winning the French Open as anyone else. And all of you know it. So don't wet your pants at the draw.

deme08
05-04-2008, 10:06 AM
Shut up what? Do you even understand what my post implied? I don't think Nadal's draw at Monte Carlo is any tougher than Federer's at Rome. If Zaragoza did open his mouth and say Nadal's draw was brutal then he deserved to be called a chump. Otherwise he is not. I just simply asked that if he is one of those chumps since we all know how bad most Nadal fans can be. My post might sound negative but I think it is correct way to deal with the majority of people here. If you have the power to stuck it up and be nice all the time, then kudos to you.

I agree. Nadal did not have a tough draw at Monte Carlo and his draw in Rome is a joke with Djokovic, Nalbandian, Ferrer and Andreev all on Fed's half. (Although I do believe Fed should beat those guys no problem) But guess whos on Nadal's half? That's right, Andy Roddick!

Nadal_Freak
05-04-2008, 10:13 AM
I agree. Nadal did not have a tough draw at Monte Carlo and his draw in Rome is a joke with Djokovic, Nalbandian, Ferrer and Andreev all on Fed's half. (Although I do believe Fed should beat those guys no problem) But guess whos on Nadal's half? That's right, Andy Roddick!
Ferrero, Ferrer, Davydenko, and Federer is not a tough draw? What is a tough draw on clay than?

joeri888
05-04-2008, 10:21 AM
Nadal did have a tough draw, though I think Djokovic is more dangerous than Davydenko. Ferrer and Nalbandian are obviously the toughest semifinalists you can meet, and Ferrero is still a good player who once was the best in the world on clay.

I don't think it's looking for excuses if you say that Roger Federer has a tough draw. It's just a look at the facts. He has a tough draw, while a player like Davydneko can easily walk to the semis IMO, same goes for Nadal THIS time. However, I think RF, RN and Davydenko should qualifie with ease for the semis. I could see Djoko slip up against Nalbandian though.

The most imporntant draw will be the one in Roland Garros. I hope Ferrer can play Nadal there in the quarters, and Roger's in Roddick's part.

Nadal_Freak
05-04-2008, 10:24 AM
Nadal did have a tough draw, though I think Djokovic is more dangerous than Davydenko. Ferrer and Nalbandian are obviously the toughest semifinalists you can meet, and Ferrero is still a good player who once was the best in the world on clay.

I don't think it's looking for excuses if you say that Roger Federer has a tough draw. It's just a look at the facts. He has a tough draw, while a player like Davydneko can easily walk to the semis IMO, same goes for Nadal THIS time. However, I think RF, RN and Davydenko should qualifie with ease for the semis. I could see Djoko slip up against Nalbandian though.

The most imporntant draw will be the one in Roland Garros. I hope Ferrer can play Nadal there in the quarters, and Roger's in Roddick's part.
Funny how last year, people were saying Nadal had the easier opponent with Djokovic. Now it is Davydenko the easier opponent. I guess regardless which opponent, Nadal has the easier opponent. :rolleyes:

deme08
05-04-2008, 10:28 AM
Ferrero, Ferrer, Davydenko, and Federer is not a tough draw? What is a tough draw on clay than?

Ferrero is old news, this is not 2003. Djokovic and Nalbandian both are more dangerous than Ferrer/Davydenko on clay. So relatively speaking, no, Nadal's draw was not tough.

Nadal_Freak
05-04-2008, 10:30 AM
Ferrero is old news, this is not 2003. Djokovic and Nalbandian both are more dangerous than Ferrer/Davydenko on clay. So relatively speaking, no, Nadal's draw was not tough.
Nalbandian is too slow to bother Nadal on clay. Indoors allow for shot making to be a bigger part of the game but you need speed on clay. Ferrer is Nadal's toughest opponent on clay due to his speed as well as shot making.

Morrissey
05-04-2008, 10:30 AM
Ferrero is old news, this is not 2003. Djokovic and Nalbandian both are more dangerous than Ferrer/Davydenko on clay. So relatively speaking, no, Nadal's draw wasn't that tough.

Thatīs BS, who then made the finals of Estoril and Barcelona? SO yeah, Nadalīs draw was tough. Ferrero is still a tough match on clay, much more so than Monfils or Hidalgo. Thatīs such a typical biased Fedfan response to say that, classic. Nadalīs so good on clay he makes any tough draw look weak.

tintin
05-04-2008, 10:33 AM
right now the only players in Nadal's draw that can cause him some problem is Davydenko;if healthy;but the likes of Llodra,Fish,Roddick,Blake and even Tsonga if he's not 100% won't be much a hassle for Rafa.

Canas just went out meekly last week to Robredo who hasn't played that well all year.
Gasquet has both back soreness and knee tendinitis.
Nalbandian went out in straight sets to Wawrinka.
Mathieu plays well on clay but lost to a nobody yesterday and is hardly a fighter.
Djokovic apparently lined up a strep throat excuse already just in case he goes out early this week.
Ferrer looked completely spent out there today.
Andreev is a good clay court player but can be pretty inconsistent;just like Mathieu.
Roger has tougher compettion but if he's healthy he should be ok

I would love for Llodra to take both Roddick,Blake and Fish out but having said that I would love to see a Nadal-Roddick or Nadal-Fish or Nadal-Blake on clay;especially the way Rafa is playing right now:twisted::twisted:

Fedace
05-04-2008, 10:38 AM
SO who is picking straight set win for Canas the MAN ??

joeri888
05-04-2008, 10:38 AM
Funny how last year, people were saying Nadal had the easier opponent with Djokovic. Now it is Davydenko the easier opponent. I guess regardless which opponent, Nadal has the easier opponent. :rolleyes:

First of all, I wasn't that person. Second, it could well be that Davydenko was a better player last year, because Djokovic has made a lot of progress the last year, in case you didn't notice. Third, I wouldn't say Davydenko is an easier opponent, I just think he's got less of a chance to beat Nadal or Federer. I think he'll lose in 3 to both at RG, but Djoko can make it a real fight I believe.

Anyways, it was about Roger's draw, which I think is tough.. Just as Nadal's was in MC (so was Roger's, because drawing Nalbandian or Ferrer is just bad if you can also draw Murray, Roddick or Blake)

deme08
05-04-2008, 11:13 AM
Thatīs BS, who then made the finals of Estoril and Barcelona? SO yeah, Nadalīs draw was tough. Ferrero is still a tough match on clay, much more so than Monfils or Hidalgo. Thatīs such a typical biased Fedfan response to say that, classic. Nadalīs so good on clay he makes any tough draw look weak.

and this is such a typical biased Nadalfan response. Nalbandian won a title on clay this year, made a final and is undefeated on clay in Davis cup. Both him and Djokovic are FO semifinalists. Of course they are tougher opponents on clay. and no need to use words such as "BS" around here if you are trying make a point.

Morrissey
05-04-2008, 11:38 AM
and this is such a typical biased Nadalfan response. Nalbandian won a title on clay this year, made a final and is undefeated on clay in Davis cup. Both him and Djokovic are FO semifinalists. Of course they are tougher opponents on clay. and no need to use words such as "BS" around here if you are trying make a point.

You talking about the South American clay season? As opposed to the Spring European clay court season? Puhleeze. First off, Davydenko is riding high from the Miami win and then the Estroril final so he was "in form" and is the better clay court player than Nalby, check 2007 RG QF for reference. BS can used when the one who is posting it (you) is doing just that.

Nadal_Monfils
05-04-2008, 01:05 PM
Good, so we now all agree that Masters Series are tough tournaments and almost everyone gets a tough draw in them.

zagor
05-04-2008, 02:02 PM
Wow... the excuses are being premeditated now for Fed? What's up with that? Have a little confidence in your champion Don't whine.

Now it's full-poof for the Fetid-turds. If Fed wins, they can cry with exaltation that he won with a "brutal half"... but if he loses they will cry with lamentation that the draw was too "brutal"... come on. You guys are becoming pathetic.

Federer has just as much a chance in winning the French Open as anyone else. And all of you know it. So don't wet your pants at the draw.

Most of the Federer fans in this thread(myself included) have disagreed with the OP about Federer's half being "brutal" and one of the Fed fans even defended Zaragoza here,so maybe you should quit your whining.Also I've seen Nadal fans complain when about his draw quite a few times so It's not like that only Fed fans complain.

zagor
05-04-2008, 02:06 PM
Funny how last year, people were saying Nadal had the easier opponent with Djokovic. Now it is Davydenko the easier opponent. I guess regardless which opponent, Nadal has the easier opponent. :rolleyes:

You're the one who has been saying that Djokovic is a third claycourter on tour(actually you were saying he is second because you said he would beat Federer and in straight sets none the less) so I guess you consider him tougher then Davydenko as well? I also remember you saying that Djokovic will be Nadal's toughest challenge on clay.

MEAC_ALLAMERICAN
05-04-2008, 02:32 PM
This draw isn't brutal at all for Roger and I think this would motivate him to play well heading into France. I don't think he wants the same fog of doubt heading into Hamburg and the French Open.

One match at a time, plus stellar play at the right moment, he will be fine.

Serpententacle
05-04-2008, 02:58 PM
Most of the Federer fans in this thread(myself included) have disagreed with the OP about Federer's half being "brutal" and one of the Fed fans even defended Zaragoza here,so maybe you should quit your whining.Also I've seen Nadal fans complain when about his draw quite a few times so It's not like that only Fed fans complain.

Quit your whining about me whining about whining Fetid-turd fans.

zagor
05-04-2008, 03:08 PM
Quit your whining about me whining about whining Fetid-turd fans.

"Fetid-turd" fans? Very classy,but I don't expect anything else from a pathetic little whiner such as yourself.I'm fine with Fed's draw and expect him to get to the finals where obviously Nadal is the favourite.Anyway I'm done with this thread.

MEAC_ALLAMERICAN
05-04-2008, 03:19 PM
"Fetid-turd" fans? Very classy,but I don't expect anything else from a pathetic little whiner such as yourself.I'm fine with Fed's draw and expect him to get to the finals where obviously Nadal is the favourite.Anyway I'm done with this thread.

Zagor,

I like you because you defend Roger and Nikolay with the most class, and not allow yourself to get caught up in some of the trolls. There are certain people that you just have to ignore, and have faith in the guys that we have chosen to get through. For some people it's more easy to have bragging rights on a surface, where is there is a clear favorite. I have said this before that Roger has a decent draw and for me it can't get any worse for the French Open. I rather see him meet these players now and rectify whatever needs to be taken care of ahead of France. He is the number one player in the world and he is there for a reason. Don't get frustrated, but just embrace the good with the bad.

zagor
05-04-2008, 04:15 PM
Zagor,

I like you because you defend Roger and Nikolay with the most class, and not allow yourself to get caught up in some of the trolls. There are certain people that you just have to ignore, and have faith in the guys that we have chosen to get through. For some people it's more easy to have bragging rights on a surface, where is there is a clear favorite. I have said this before that Roger has a decent draw and for me it can't get any worse for the French Open. I rather see him meet these players now and rectify whatever needs to be taken care of ahead of France. He is the number one player in the world and he is there for a reason. Don't get frustrated, but just embrace the good with the bad.

I agree with you and appreciate what you said,I'll try to stay clear of trolls most of the time.Roger can gain a lot of points in Rome and I hope he gets another shot at Nadal there,if he beats Ferrer and Nalbandian/Djokovic to get to the final then all the better for him,as you said it's better he faces those players now so he can work out their games as they're his potential opponents at the French.As always I also hope that Kolja does well and I urge anyone who questions his heart and desire to watch his match(if they can get a copy)against Nadal last year in Rome,that was some amazing tennis.

arnz
05-04-2008, 04:27 PM
When are you guys going to realize that there is no such thing as a tough draw for Nadal on clay :)

ErwinFromParis
05-04-2008, 04:36 PM
The expectating point will be 1st round... always more hasardous as RF has to set up his clay game (most difficult match at Monaco except the final was the 1st rd)

scineram
05-04-2008, 05:21 PM
Đoker is thougher opponent for Roger, Kolya is for Nadal.

Nalbandian is in Roger's head only.

Serpententacle
05-04-2008, 05:37 PM
"Fetid-turd" fans? Very classy,but I don't expect anything else from a pathetic little whiner such as yourself.I'm fine with Fed's draw and expect him to get to the finals where obviously Nadal is the favourite.Anyway I'm done with this thread.

Wow... interesting you take my comment personally. Very telling.