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The balls in your court.
05-05-2008, 08:56 AM
To Fed fans: Has Novak replaced Nadal as public enemy #1?

Nadal_Freak
05-05-2008, 09:07 AM
Whoever beats Fed more they will hate the most. I think right now it is Nadal.

shwetty[tennis]balls
05-05-2008, 09:24 AM
Yes, I think that Novak challenges Federer on the faster surfaces where Nadal doesn't as much.

Klatu Verata Necktie
05-05-2008, 09:48 AM
I vote Nadal as Federer's toughest opponent. Neither Nadal nor Djokovic are enemies.

thefederman
05-05-2008, 09:52 AM
i think that nadal is fed's toughest competition but as far as enemy's goes it's novak.

zagor
05-05-2008, 10:08 AM
I still consider Nadal as Federer's main rival but Djokovic is up there with those two and is becoming a great player,it's no longer a two-horse race with Novak in the mix.As for "public enemy #1",I don't know exactly what you mean,I never hated neither Nadal nor Djokovic,I just root for Federer who is my favourite player for a long time now.I do respect Nadal a lot more as a person although Djokovic may mature in the future and become a good sportsman and ambassador for tennis.

The balls in your court.
05-05-2008, 11:34 AM
I still consider Nadal as Federer's main rival but Djokovic is up there with those two and is becoming a great player,it's no longer a two-horse race with Novak in the mix.As for "public enemy #1",I don't know exactly what you mean,I never hated neither Nadal nor Djokovic,I just root for Federer who is my favourite player for a long time now.I do respect Nadal a lot more as a person although Djokovic may mature in the future and become a good sportsman and ambassador for tennis.

yeah but who do you dislike more?

stormholloway
05-05-2008, 11:39 AM
Nadal hasn't broken through at a hard court slam yet, and I can't figure out why.

The balls in your court.
05-05-2008, 11:45 AM
Nadal hasn't broken through at a hard court slam yet, and I can't figure out why.

Same reason Borg could not. They both use extreme topspin. Both Borg and Nadal did well at the FO and Wimbledon. They both did not have the game for hardcourts.

rtyd1
05-05-2008, 11:54 AM
Nadal because he holds the GS Fed needs to win to be the GOAT

gj011
05-05-2008, 11:56 AM
There is a poll option missing.
Anyone who beats Federer last is the public enemy #1.

Serpententacle
05-05-2008, 11:57 AM
There is a poll option missing.
Anyone who beats Federer last is the public enemy #1.

You're absolutely right.

stormholloway
05-05-2008, 11:58 AM
Same reason Borg could not. They both use extreme topspin. Both Borg and Nadal did well at the FO and Wimbledon. They both did not have the game for hardcourts.

Well Borg had 4 US Open finals by the time he was 25, so obviously he could play on hard courts.

And certainly the hard courts favored Borg's game more than the old grass. I think with Borg it was mental. He didn't like the lights or the noise of the US Open. I wonder if it's fatigue with Nadal after the clay and grass season.

The balls in your court.
05-05-2008, 12:17 PM
Well Borg had 4 US Open finals by the time he was 25, so obviously he could play on hard courts.

And certainly the hard courts favored Borg's game more than the old grass. I think with Borg it was mental. He didn't like the lights or the noise of the US Open. I wonder if it's fatigue with Nadal after the clay and grass season.

Borg also quit at 25. He could play on hards and so can nadal. Rafa has beaten Federer almost as many times as the other way around. But the topsin game is just not meant for hards. Although I think Vilas won the US Open.....was that on clay though???

But man have we digressed....whats this topic about again?

MEAC_ALLAMERICAN
05-05-2008, 02:49 PM
Whoever beats Fed more they will hate the most. I think right now it is Nadal.

You're one to talk, you either have a short term memory or just choose not to remember.

zagor
05-05-2008, 02:52 PM
yeah but who do you dislike more?

I don't dislike either one of them but I do like Nadal as a person more then Djokovic,does that answer your question?

Babb
05-05-2008, 02:54 PM
I think that the people who say that neither is an enemy are completely fooling themselves...

Fed has lots of titles to defend this year, and so far he hasn't been getting nearly as good of results as Nadal or Djokovic.

Andres
05-05-2008, 03:33 PM
Borg also quit at 25. He could play on hards and so can nadal. Rafa has beaten Federer almost as many times as the other way around. But the topsin game is just not meant for hards. Although I think Vilas won the US Open.....was that on clay though???
Three of his USO finals were played on hardcourts, and one on green clay ;)

[d]ragon
05-05-2008, 03:48 PM
Whoever beats Fed more they will hate the most. I think right now it is Nadal.

shouldnt u be a nadal freak? ahah

Nadal_Freak
05-05-2008, 03:50 PM
ragon;2308657']shouldnt u be a nadal freak? ahah
Yep and Nadal beat Fed and Monte Carlo. ;) Therefore Nadal is hated more.

pow
05-05-2008, 05:36 PM
I think Novak is just the public enemy #1 for people who enjoy watching a match to the end. Nothing wrong with winning or losing but to quit right when you trail behind is pretty lame.

Robbie_1988
05-06-2008, 02:26 AM
Initially I hated Nadal for beating Federer. But despite that I have grown to love his work ethic and never say die attitude. I love how Nadal grinds away at Fed on the clay court (or any court, even grass) and does not give up. Nowadays when Nadal beats Federer it doesn't bother me the slightest bit. I just enjoy the tennis because I like a good fight.

For Novak on the other hand, I can't say much about his "fight". I have no respect for a quitter. His damned family is bloody annoying too. Nadal's uncle Tony has had his moments but it's nowhere as bad as the Djokovic camp.

onkystomper
05-06-2008, 04:38 AM
novak is # 1 because he is an idiot. Nadal conducts himself well.

ninman
05-06-2008, 05:04 AM
Well Borg had 4 US Open finals by the time he was 25, so obviously he could play on hard courts.

And certainly the hard courts favored Borg's game more than the old grass. I think with Borg it was mental. He didn't like the lights or the noise of the US Open. I wonder if it's fatigue with Nadal after the clay and grass season.

Actually only 3 of the finals he played in were on hard court, his first one was on a clay court and he lost in 4 sets.

coloskier
05-06-2008, 12:53 PM
I have gained respect for Nadal as a player (but I still hate clay), and totally lost any respect for Djokovic. Quitters will always be losers in my book.

Lendl and Federer Fan
05-06-2008, 01:22 PM
Neither is an enemy.

bcast66
05-06-2008, 01:25 PM
Whoever beats Fed more they will hate the most. I think right now it is Nadal.

nadal will always be hated for bringing those fruity pants into the life of fruits who wear them. fed will be hated for having people use k 90`s.. oh wait nvm about fed being hated for that, THANKS FED.

MEAC_ALLAMERICAN
05-06-2008, 01:28 PM
I think that the people who say that neither is an enemy are completely fooling themselves...

Fed has lots of titles to defend this year, and so far he hasn't been getting nearly as good of results as Nadal or Djokovic.

Good for them that they both have had great seasons thus far. Federer is finding his form for the 2008 season and for you or anyone else to say either player is an enemies because they are successful is foolish on your part. It goes to show your mature way of thinking, at the end the better man will come out on top. It might me Roger, Rafa or Novak, nobody on this board knows for sure. That's why we all have to wait and see how it unfolds.

FlamEnemY
05-06-2008, 01:35 PM
Very interesting. Roger has a hard time with Nadal on clay, while Djokovic is willing to take over the hardcourts.
I think everyone of the three is looking out for the other two at the top, they are all very good all-courters (the stupid comments about Nadal being weak on hardcourt are... well, stupid). But I think Federer will be on top at the end of the year.
Oh, Nadal and Djokovic are both a threat for the number one spot, the end of the year should show us who is better.

raiden031
05-06-2008, 01:45 PM
I see both Nadal and Djokovic as a real threat to the #1 spot. If one of them gets it, I'd rather it be Nadal though because I respect him more.

scineram
05-06-2008, 02:00 PM
Between Roger and History there stand Rafael Nadal and nothing else.

Greenfin Beta
05-06-2008, 02:23 PM
Whoever beats Fed more they will hate the most. I think right now it is Nadal.

Just because you dislike Federer doesn't mean that Fed fans dislike Nadal as well. Their rivalry is what makes tennis more interesting.

Greenfin Beta
05-06-2008, 02:33 PM
Neither is an enemy.

I agree. I can't speak for all Fed fans but when Federer loses, after the initial shock, the emotion I feel is that of frustration (and maybe disappointment at Fed, knowing he could have done better) and not 'hatred' towards his opponent.

The balls in your court.
05-07-2008, 04:13 AM
so my hypothesis is correct according to the poll results:

The real reason that fed fans are in such an uproar over the Joker is because he is public enemy #1.



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cknobman
05-07-2008, 06:26 AM
Nadal has never been on the hate list. He is a genuinley good person, great athelete, and deserves everything he gets. He would be the perfect spokesman for a "Good Sportsmanship" organization.

Novak on the other hand...While his play is top notch he has several glaring faults in personality, heart, and sportsmanship that no one wants to see at the top of the game.